What Did You Watch? 2016-01-24 (Sunday)

[Ubiquitous]

I watched:

IT'S ALWAYS SUNNY IN PHILADELPHIA:
"CharDeeMacDennis 2: Electric Boogaloo". The gang demonstrate their
game for a rep from Mattell.

RUPAUL'S DRAG RACE:
"RuVealed Season 5: Super Troopers". The contestants join gay veterans
for a drag runway makeover, featuring commentary by RuPaul.

THE REAL HOUSEWIVES OF ATLANTA:
"Beauties & the Beat". Kandi and Todd take a refresher course in
parenting as they prepare for Baby Tucker's arrival. Meanwhile, Phaedra
and Ayden set out to celebrate Apollo's birthday; Kim plans a makeup-
free brunch; and Cynthia gears up for her eyewear commercial.

What did you watch?

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[Ian J. Ball]

In article <UBI20...@dont-email.me>, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net>
wrote:

> What did you watch?

Football dominated...:

Legends of Tomorrow (recorded) - OK, I was enthused by the first 15-20
minutes of this and was actually sort of impressed... Unfortunately, the
pilot quickly lost momentum after that, once the "team" had been
"assembled" and they actually started on their first "mission", which
was disappointing. And I saw the "twist" with the time-traveling British
guy coming a mile away...
Still, I like the premise of this one enough that I'll give it more
episodes to see where it goes...

AFC Championship game - I loved this game... :)
I really had only two Christmas wishes this year - that the hated
Pittsburgh get taken down, and the hated New England Cheatriots not get
to the Superbowl (the most hated NY Giants had already done themselves
in well before Christmas, so they weren't on my "wish list" this year...
;> ). Anyway, the second thing happened in this game. :) And, I have
to say, even I was surprised at how thoroughly Denver's defense
manhandled Tom Brady and the Patriots! :D

NFC Championship game - This game, OTOH, I didn't have as much invested
in - while I was nominally pulling for Arizona, I didn't have much
"skin" in this game. As it happens, Carolina *manhandled* Arizona, so
that was that.

Reign (recorded) - OK, this was a pretty good way to wrap things up for
a while. Lots of good stuff happened in this one (unsurprising
revelation #134 for this show: Catherine had planned it all!!1!). And
the promos for the coming 8 episode ("This spring" the promos
claimed...) promise that Mary is finally going to be moving on to
Scotland... :)

Recorded for later: Galavant, Mercy Street, and The X-Files.

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[Obveeus]

On 1/25/2016 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

> What did you watch?

MINIONS: The mediocre 2015 film spinoff from DESPICABLE ME. Maybe this
works as a film for really little kids (since most of the speaking is
gibberish), but there really wasn't a lot to the plot or such for anyone
else. I have no idea why this film was so popular.

[Michael Black]

On Mon, 25 Jan 2016, Ubiquitous wrote:


> What did you watch?
>

I watched "Happy Days", where they rebuilt Arnold's Drive-In. SOme
disagreement between the partners, Al was talking about selling his half,
but it all turned out okay. Some changes to the interior, but I'm not
sure it's all that much. I had assumed the weekend episodes were not in
sequence with the weekday episodes.

Then on "Laverne & Shirley", Shirley got married to some guy in bandages.
I have no idea where that came from, I thought she was still seeing
"Carmine". The guy is in the army, they had to move up the wedding because
he was being shipped out. But I missed why he was in bandages, and it
didn't look like he was going anywhere in a long time, so they could have
waited. But this gets Shirley off the show, she apparently just
disappears in the next episode, the actress wanting off the show. So then
it will just be the Laverne Show.

Michael

[Arthur Lipscomb]

Neither do I.


I watched:


Shameless - "The F Word" - Continuing the various plots from the first
two weeks...this was a really funny episode with lots of one-liners.
Loved the running gag of Carl's customers slowing transitioning from
students to teachers.


SNL - Ronda Rousey hosts a so-so episode with Selena Gomez as musical
guest. I *think* that's the first time I've ever watched Selena
perform. Although I only watched a little before hitting fast forward.


The X-Files (DVD and blu-ray):
Pilot - Dana Scully and FBI agent with medical training is brought in to
debunk Agent Fox Mulder who investigates strange crimes, especially ones
dealing with aliens. The pilot was OK but the quality of the DVD was
horrible.

"Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose" - Season 3 episode featuring Peter Boyle
in an Emmy winning role as a psychic who helps Fox and Scully track down
a serial killer murdering fake psychics. Good episode but I really hate
that I had to skip so *many* great episodes due to lack of time. I was
working from two different lists of which episodes to watch before the
new series and this was the only episode on both lists.

X-Files: Fight the Future - First X-Files movie, released between the
fifth and sixth seasons. It did an OK job of summarizing and explaining
the various conspiracies up to that point.

"Sunshine Days" - Penultimate episode of season 9. Agents John Doggett
(Robert Patrick) and Monica Reyes (Annabeth Gish) who basically replaced
Fox and Scully investigate a strange death at what appears to be the
"Brady Bunch" house.

"The Truth" - In the series finale Fox is put on trial for murder. His
defense is the man he killed is really an unkillable alien/human hybrid
"super soldier". His trial is basically an excuse to do *lots* of
exposition as they wrap up the series. It ends with Fox being found
sentenced to death and on the run. This episode was on neither must
watch list but IMO this was an essential episode to sum everything up.

The X-Files: I Want to Believe - Second X-Files movie. With Fox still
on the run, all is suddenly forgiven when they need to make another
movie, I mean when the FBI needs Fox's help. Apparently the FBI has the
power to unilaterally overturn a guilty verdict. Fox is brought in from
the cold to help track down a kidnapped FBI agent. The FBI is already
using a psychic on the case and they want Fox to verify the psychic.
I'm not sure why they *needed* Fox to verify the psychic. You either
believe him or you don't. There's also a subplot with Scully working at
a hospital trying to provide care to a terminally ill boy that everyone
else has given up on.


The X-Files - "My Struggle" Season 10 picks up with Fox and Scully still
on the outs with the FBI. I'm not entirely sure *what* was going on!
But since I don't see any other summaries I'll try... Joel McHale plays
an internet(?) conservative conspiracy theorist who tracks down Fox and
Scully who I guess separated after the last movie but are still in
contact. He wants them to investigate a woman who has been kidnapped by
aliens. Except when Fox interviews her she says she was really
kidnapped by humans and Fox suddenly believes everything he's done with
his life is a lie? I think, unless he was faking. I don't know, none
of it made any sense. :-/

[anim8rfsk]

In article <n85ftu$go8$1...@dont-email.me>,

Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

> The X-Files - "My Struggle" Season 10 picks up with Fox and Scully still
> on the outs with the FBI. I'm not entirely sure *what* was going on!
> But since I don't see any other summaries I'll try... Joel McHale plays
> an internet(?) conservative conspiracy theorist who tracks down Fox and
> Scully who I guess separated after the last movie but are still in
> contact. He wants them to investigate a woman who has been kidnapped by
> aliens. Except when Fox interviews her she says she was really
> kidnapped by humans and Fox suddenly believes everything he's done with
> his life is a lie? I think, unless he was faking. I don't know, none
> of it made any sense. :-/

There's that

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[EGK]

I never followed the original very closely. I much preferred the
stand-alone episodes to the conspiracy stuff. None of that stuff ever made
any sense. As soon as I heard early on that Cris Carter claimed he had
everything all mapped out I knew it was bullshit.

[Arthur Lipscomb]

On 1/25/2016 6:03 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
> In article <UBI20...@dont-email.me>, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net>
> wrote:
>
>> What did you watch?
>
> Football dominated...:
>
> Legends of Tomorrow (recorded) - OK, I was enthused by the first 15-20
> minutes of this and was actually sort of impressed... Unfortunately, the
> pilot quickly lost momentum after that, once the "team" had been
> "assembled" and they actually started on their first "mission", which
> was disappointing. And I saw the "twist" with the time-traveling British
> guy coming a mile away...

If it's the twist I'm thinking of, I didn't see it coming and thought it
was *great*. I think the main problem is we only got the first half of
the pilot. If this had been shown in a 2 hour block it probably would
have played better. Nevertheless, I still liked it a lot.

> Still, I like the premise of this one enough that I'll give it more
> episodes to see where it goes...
>
> AFC Championship game - I loved this game... :)
> I really had only two Christmas wishes this year - that the hated
> Pittsburgh get taken down, and the hated New England Cheatriots not get
> to the Superbowl (the most hated NY Giants had already done themselves
> in well before Christmas, so they weren't on my "wish list" this year...
> ;> ). Anyway, the second thing happened in this game. :) And, I have
> to say, even I was surprised at how thoroughly Denver's defense
> manhandled Tom Brady and the Patriots! :D
>
> NFC Championship game - This game, OTOH, I didn't have as much invested
> in - while I was nominally pulling for Arizona, I didn't have much
> "skin" in this game. As it happens, Carolina *manhandled* Arizona, so
> that was that.
>
> Reign (recorded) - OK, this was a pretty good way to wrap things up for
> a while. Lots of good stuff happened in this one (unsurprising
> revelation #134 for this show: Catherine had planned it all!!1!). And
> the promos for the coming 8 episode ("This spring" the promos
> claimed...) promise that Mary is finally going to be moving on to
> Scotland... :)
>

I missed the promos but I agree it was good wrap up.

> Recorded for later: Galavant, Mercy Street, and The X-Files.
>

Now I'm two episodes behind on Galavant. :-/

[Ubiquitous]

et...@ncf.ca wrote:
>On Mon, 25 Jan 2016, Ubiquitous wrote:

>> What did you watch?

>I watched "Happy Days", where they rebuilt Arnold's Drive-In. SOme
>disagreement between the partners, Al was talking about selling his half,
>but it all turned out okay. Some changes to the interior, but I'm not
>sure it's all that much.

I thought the remodeled version looked liked like a medieval Bennigans.

I had assumed the weekend episodes were not in
>sequence with the weekday episodes.

I noticed that as well in the online schedule and assumed it was a mistake but
didn't care enopugh to look.

[Pete]

In article <n85ftu$go8$1...@dont-email.me>,
Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

> [....]

>The X-Files - "My Struggle" Season 10 picks up with Fox and Scully still
>on the outs with the FBI. I'm not entirely sure *what* was going on!
>But since I don't see any other summaries I'll try... Joel McHale plays
>an internet(?) conservative conspiracy theorist who tracks down Fox and
>Scully who I guess separated after the last movie but are still in
>contact. He wants them to investigate a woman who has been kidnapped by
>aliens. Except when Fox interviews her she says she was really
>kidnapped by humans and Fox suddenly believes everything he's done with
>his life is a lie? I think, unless he was faking. I don't know, none
>of it made any sense. :-/

I watched this and Galavant.

X-Files touched all the wrong buttons for me. It reminded me that
I gave up on the original series at "Jose Chung" or soon after, when
I realized Carter was just throwing random stuff at us without any
"Truth Out There". Once again, as you say, nothing made any sense.

Probably done with it, though I may record tonight's ep just to see
if anything clicks with me at all.

OTOH Galavant is just my cup of tea! [Maybe it's my part-English
background... (:-))] It struck me that this is 21st Century Gilbert
and Sullivan; the healer's song was especially reminiscent. I think
I'm finding this season funnier than the first, too. It's just *fun*!

-- Pete --

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In article <UBI20...@dont-email.me>, web...@polaris.net
says...
>
> What did you watch?

On Sun Jan 24I watched:

THE SHANNARA CHRONICLES: Fury; Changeling
I was surprised we got another 2 episodes, practically
catching up with the US.
Only one episode next time, which I will be watching.
However, I wouldn't care if it was canceled.

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[Pete]

In article <n8601d$1v2t$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, I wrote:
>
>X-Files touched all the wrong buttons for me. It reminded me that
>I gave up on the original series at "Jose Chung" or soon after, when
>I realized Carter was just throwing random stuff at us without any
>"Truth Out There". Once again, as you say, nothing made any sense.
>

I've been reading a couple of reviews. Jomathan Bernstein in the
Daily Telegraph < http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/tv-and-radio-reviews/12114886/The-X-Files-new-series-episode-one-review-I-want-to-believe.html >
says:

"Remember when you first fell out of love with The X-Files? When you
first experienced that sinking feeling that the labyrinthine mythology
in which you'd invested so many hours and so much credulity wasn't
going to culminate in anything approaching a satisfying fashion?"

I think we were watching the same show... (:-/)


And in Tim Goodman's review < http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/x-files-tv-review-854844 >:

"The updated X-Files begins ominously (not intentionally) with a very
long voiceover from Duchovny as Fox Mulder, trying to catch up the
audience on the history of the show and the fictional X-Files, where
paranormal cases were handled at the FBI."

Anyone else see that? I didn't. There must have been extensive changes
between the critics' showing and the broadcast.

[Obveeus]

On 1/25/2016 5:29 PM, David Barnett wrote:
> In article <UBI20...@dont-email.me>, web...@polaris.net
> says...
>>
>> What did you watch?
>
> On Sun Jan 24I watched:
>
> THE SHANNARA CHRONICLES: Fury; Changeling
> I was surprised we got another 2 episodes, practically
> catching up with the US.

You are caught up with the US. 'Changeling' aired last week and the
next episode does not air until tomorrow.

[David Barnett]

In article <n867il$la6$1...@dont-email.me>, Obv...@aol.com
says...

Our next episode is not until next Saturday,
hence my use of the word "practically".

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[Arthur Lipscomb]

On 1/25/2016 2:30 PM, Pete wrote:
> In article <n8601d$1v2t$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, I wrote:
>>
>> X-Files touched all the wrong buttons for me. It reminded me that
>> I gave up on the original series at "Jose Chung" or soon after, when
>> I realized Carter was just throwing random stuff at us without any
>> "Truth Out There". Once again, as you say, nothing made any sense.
>>
> I've been reading a couple of reviews. Jomathan Bernstein in the
> Daily Telegraph < http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/tv-and-radio-reviews/12114886/The-X-Files-new-series-episode-one-review-I-want-to-believe.html >
> says:
>
> "Remember when you first fell out of love with The X-Files? When you
> first experienced that sinking feeling that the labyrinthine mythology
> in which you'd invested so many hours and so much credulity wasn't
> going to culminate in anything approaching a satisfying fashion?"
>

Enough years have gone by that I've totally forgotten. :-)

> I think we were watching the same show... (:-/)
>
>

I bought all the seasons on DVD. Many are still in the shrinkwrap. I'm
*tempted* to watch them, or at least the better episodes. But maybe not...

> And in Tim Goodman's review < http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/x-files-tv-review-854844 >:
>
> "The updated X-Files begins ominously (not intentionally) with a very
> long voiceover from Duchovny as Fox Mulder, trying to catch up the
> audience on the history of the show and the fictional X-Files, where
> paranormal cases were handled at the FBI."
>
> Anyone else see that? I didn't. There must have been extensive changes
> between the critics' showing and the broadcast.
>
> -- Pete --
>

Maybe you missed the beginning due to the Football game? The episode
started with Fox providing exposition while laying photos on a table.

[Obveeus]

That's not too bad. It means you will be caught up on 3 out of every 7
days. ;-)
>

[anim8rfsk]

In article <n867il$la6$1...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

I'd almost forgotten, having binged the first four. Thanks!

[anim8rfsk]

In article <n86b9c$5vc$1...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

Plus he's a day ahead of us.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <n8601d$1v2t$1...@gioia.aioe.org>,

neve...@GOODEVEca.net (Pete) wrote:

> In article <n85ftu$go8$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
> > [....]
> >The X-Files - "My Struggle" Season 10 picks up with Fox and Scully still
> >on the outs with the FBI. I'm not entirely sure *what* was going on!
> >But since I don't see any other summaries I'll try... Joel McHale plays
> >an internet(?) conservative conspiracy theorist who tracks down Fox and
> >Scully who I guess separated after the last movie but are still in
> >contact. He wants them to investigate a woman who has been kidnapped by
> >aliens. Except when Fox interviews her she says she was really
> >kidnapped by humans and Fox suddenly believes everything he's done with
> >his life is a lie? I think, unless he was faking. I don't know, none
> >of it made any sense. :-/
>
> I watched this and Galavant.
>
> X-Files touched all the wrong buttons for me. It reminded me that
> I gave up on the original series at "Jose Chung" or soon after, when
> I realized Carter was just throwing random stuff at us without any
> "Truth Out There". Once again, as you say, nothing made any sense.

Reviews say ep 1 is the worst of the lot.

>
> Probably done with it, though I may record tonight's ep just to see
> if anything clicks with me at all.
>
> OTOH Galavant is just my cup of tea! [Maybe it's my part-English
> background... (:-))] It struck me that this is 21st Century Gilbert
> and Sullivan; the healer's song was especially reminiscent. I think
> I'm finding this season funnier than the first, too. It's just *fun*!
>
> -- Pete --

Yes

[anim8rfsk]

In article <n867m1$ces$1...@gioia.aioe.org>,

I did. It was interminable. Duchovny seems to have lost all his acting
chops.

[Obveeus]

On 1/25/2016 7:58 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> In article <n867il$la6$1...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/25/2016 5:29 PM, David Barnett wrote:
>>> In article <UBI20...@dont-email.me>, web...@polaris.net
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> What did you watch?
>>>
>>> On Sun Jan 24I watched:
>>>
>>> THE SHANNARA CHRONICLES: Fury; Changeling
>>> I was surprised we got another 2 episodes, practically
>>> catching up with the US.
>>
>> You are caught up with the US. 'Changeling' aired last week and the
>> next episode does not air until tomorrow.
>
> I'd almost forgotten, having binged the first four. Thanks!

:-) ...and yes, one of the problems with letting people watch ahead
online for awhile is that they will forget when the show actually airs.

[Dimensional Traveler]

On 1/25/2016 7:47 AM, Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
>
> The X-Files - "My Struggle" Season 10 picks up with Fox and Scully still
> on the outs with the FBI. I'm not entirely sure *what* was going on!
> But since I don't see any other summaries I'll try... Joel McHale plays
> an internet(?) conservative conspiracy theorist who tracks down Fox and
> Scully who I guess separated after the last movie but are still in
> contact. He wants them to investigate a woman who has been kidnapped by
> aliens. Except when Fox interviews her she says she was really
> kidnapped by humans and Fox suddenly believes everything he's done with
> his life is a lie? I think, unless he was faking. I don't know, none
> of it made any sense. :-/

So, exactly like the original then.

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Wars movie.

[Dimensional Traveler]

Carter might have had it mapped out. For a two or three season show.
After that it was "what else do we have that we can stuff in the sausage
grinder?!"

[Dimensional Traveler]

How does one lose something one never had?

[Pete]

In article <n869bu$rrm$1...@dont-email.me>,

Be darned...! I thought I was being so thorough! I checked at the
'start time' of X-Files (8 pm here) and the game was just ending,
so I assumed the post-game would run to at least 8:30. I tuned in
again at ~ 8:27 I guess, and commercials were running, so I started
watching (and recording) then. What followed (the Roswell bit) looked
like the actual start.

Frrom what I've read, not sure I missed much! (I skipped episode 2)

-- Pete --


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[anim8rfsk]

In article <n872tj$1due$1...@gioia.aioe.org>,

neve...@GoodeveCa.net (Pete) wrote:

> In article <n869bu$rrm$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
> >On 1/25/2016 2:30 PM, Pete wrote:
> >
> >> And in Tim Goodman's review <
> >http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/x-files-tv-review-854844 >:
> >>
> >> "The updated X-Files begins ominously (not intentionally) with a very
> >> long voiceover from Duchovny as Fox Mulder, trying to catch up the
> >> audience on the history of the show and the fictional X-Files, where
> >> paranormal cases were handled at the FBI."
> >>
> >> Anyone else see that? I didn't. There must have been extensive changes
> >> between the critics' showing and the broadcast.
> >>
> >> -- Pete --
> >>
> >
> >Maybe you missed the beginning due to the Football game? The episode
> >started with Fox providing exposition while laying photos on a table.
>
> Be darned...! I thought I was being so thorough! I checked at the
> 'start time' of X-Files (8 pm here) and the game was just ending,
> so I assumed the post-game would run to at least 8:30. I tuned in
> again at ~ 8:27 I guess, and commercials were running, so I started
> watching (and recording) then. What followed (the Roswell bit) looked
> like the actual start.
>
> Frrom what I've read, not sure I missed much! (I skipped episode 2)
>
> -- Pete --

Yeah, it started at 24m after or something, so you missed just the
interminable catch up.

Ep 2 ... wasn't *nearly* as good as ep one. I have no idea what the
reviewers are talking about.

[EGK]

On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 19:07:44 -0800, Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net>
wrote:

>On 1/25/2016 8:55 AM, EGK wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 09:44:10 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <n85ftu$go8$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>> Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The X-Files - "My Struggle" Season 10 picks up with Fox and Scully still
>>>> on the outs with the FBI. I'm not entirely sure *what* was going on!
>>>> But since I don't see any other summaries I'll try... Joel McHale plays
>>>> an internet(?) conservative conspiracy theorist who tracks down Fox and
>>>> Scully who I guess separated after the last movie but are still in
>>>> contact. He wants them to investigate a woman who has been kidnapped by
>>>> aliens. Except when Fox interviews her she says she was really
>>>> kidnapped by humans and Fox suddenly believes everything he's done with
>>>> his life is a lie? I think, unless he was faking. I don't know, none
>>>> of it made any sense. :-/
>>>
>>> There's that
>>
>> I never followed the original very closely. I much preferred the
>> stand-alone episodes to the conspiracy stuff. None of that stuff ever made
>> any sense. As soon as I heard early on that Cris Carter claimed he had
>> everything all mapped out I knew it was bullshit.
>>
>Carter might have had it mapped out. For a two or three season show.
>After that it was "what else do we have that we can stuff in the sausage
>grinder?!"

Yup but the claim was the show and how it would end was all mapped out. Much
like George Lucas always claimed he had Star Wars all mapped out through 9
movies. Horse shit! They just made it up as it went along like everything
else.

I watched the first episode of this reboot and it appears they're back to
the same old grind. Muldar has found a new conspiracy to hang his hat on
and claims it invalidates everything that went before it. lol

[BTR1701]

EGK <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> Yup but the claim was the show and how it would end was all mapped out. Much
> like George Lucas always claimed he had Star Wars all mapped out through 9
> movies. Horse shit! They just made it up as it went along like everything
> else.

Yeah, I can't imagine Lucas going to such lengths to lay the groundwork for
a romance between Luke and Leia in the first film if he knew all along they
were brother/sister.

And the whole expository scene with Kenobi telling Luke how Vader killed
Luke's father was also bullshit if Lucas had planned from the beginning for
Vader to be Luke's father. That makes Kenobi come off as a douchebag
playing semantic word games with one of the most serious issues in the
kid's life.

[Ubiquitous]

In article <n85ftu$go8$1...@dont-email.me>, art...@alum.calberkeley.org wrote:

>I watched:

>
>"Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose" - Season 3 episode featuring Peter Boyle
>in an Emmy winning role as a psychic who helps Fox and Scully track down
>a serial killer murdering fake psychics. Good episode but I really hate
>that I had to skip so *many* great episodes due to lack of time. I was
>working from two different lists of which episodes to watch before the
>new series and this was the only episode on both lists.

That's the psychic who specializes in seeing how people will die, right?
Someone claims he hinted that Scully is immortal or something.

I rather liked "Zyzygy", partly b/c it's a real word.

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[Ubiquitous]

m...@privacy.net wrote:

> anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>> Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

>>> The X-Files - "My Struggle" Season 10 picks up with Fox and Scully still
>>> on the outs with the FBI. I'm not entirely sure *what* was going on!
>>> But since I don't see any other summaries I'll try... Joel McHale plays
>>> an internet(?) conservative conspiracy theorist who tracks down Fox and
>>> Scully who I guess separated after the last movie but are still in
>>> contact. He wants them to investigate a woman who has been kidnapped by
>>> aliens. Except when Fox interviews her she says she was really
>>> kidnapped by humans and Fox suddenly believes everything he's done with
>>> his life is a lie? I think, unless he was faking. I don't know, none
>>> of it made any sense. :-/
>>
>>There's that
>
>I never followed the original very closely. I much preferred the
>stand-alone episodes to the conspiracy stuff. None of that stuff ever made
>any sense. As soon as I heard early on that Cris Carter claimed he had
>everything all mapped out I knew it was bullshit.

We must have seen the same special last week. I was equally skeptical of his
claim of putting some "new twists" on the mythology. It's either aliens or the
gubberment, what else could it be? *snort*

[Ubiquitous]

m...@privacy.net wrote:

>I watched the first episode of this [X-Files] reboot and it appears

>they're back to the same old grind. Muldar has found a new
>conspiracy to hang his hat on and claims it invalidates everything
>that went before it. lol

Yeah, that pretty much sums up X-Files!

[Ubiquitous]

anim...@cox.net wrote:

> neve...@GOODEVEca.net (Pete) wrote:
>

>> And in Tim Goodman's review <
>> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/x-files-tv-review-854844 >:
>>
>> "The updated X-Files begins ominously (not intentionally) with a very
>> long voiceover from Duchovny as Fox Mulder, trying to catch up the
>> audience on the history of the show and the fictional X-Files, where
>> paranormal cases were handled at the FBI."
>>
>> Anyone else see that? I didn't. There must have been extensive changes
>> between the critics' showing and the broadcast.
>

>I did. It was interminable. Duchovny seems to have lost all his acting
>chops.

That's not all he and Gillian lost. They look botoxed and facelifted as hell.

[David Barnett]

In article <anim8rfsk-D24760.17585025012016
@news.easynews.com>, anim...@cox.net says...

Which makes it harder for me to remember what I watched a
day behind.

--
David Barnett

[Your Name]

In article <neCdnb7eS9dFPDrL...@giganews.com>, BTR1701

<no_e...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> EGK <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> >
> > Yup but the claim was the show and how it would end was all mapped out. Much
> > like George Lucas always claimed he had Star Wars all mapped out through 9
> > movies. Horse shit! They just made it up as it went along like everything
> > else.
>
> Yeah, I can't imagine Lucas going to such lengths to lay the groundwork for
> a romance between Luke and Leia in the first film if he knew all along they
> were brother/sister.

George Lucas never claimed to have a story completely mapped out for
nine (or twelve) movies. He said he had a story outline, that *could*
make nine of twelve movies. That actual storyline was fleshed out and
altered as he wrote the scripts and made the movies.

The mythical "Third Trilogy" was originally going to be about Luke
going off to the other end of the galaxy to find his sister, so that
together they could defeat the Emperor.

> And the whole expository scene with Kenobi telling Luke how Vader killed
> Luke's father was also bullshit if Lucas had planned from the beginning for
> Vader to be Luke's father. That makes Kenobi come off as a douchebag
> playing semantic word games with one of the most serious issues in the
> kid's life.

Technically Anakin Skywalker did die. Darth Vader replaced him and
Obi-Wan didn't believe there was anything left of Anakin.

[BTR1701]

Like I said, douchey semantic word games.

[Your Name]

In article
<1444474613475569713.429451...@news.giganews.com>,

Obi-Wan also probably never though Luke would find out ... better for
Luke to think his father was dead, rather than the evil scum who
murdered lots of Jedi and younglings.

There's plenty of single parents in real life who for various reasons
tell their kids the other parent is dead when they aren't. It's called
trying to protect them.

[BTR1701]

Or the most likely explanation: it's all a post-hoc rationalization by
Lucas, who didn't know Vader was gonna be Luke's father when he made the
first movie.

[anim8rfsk]

In article
<849662245475597516.385531...@news.giganews.com>,

If you go by the Camelot theory, where Luke is Arthur/Wart in hiding,
Leia is Gwen, Obi-Wan is Merlin, Han is Lancelot, Chewy is his horse ...
then Vader is Uther Pendragon and the light saber the Sword in the Stone
(NOT Excalibur) then you can know that Vader is Papa Luke in the first
movie and Leia being his sister still comes out of nowhere; it's just a
convenient rationalization for them to stay friends after Han and Leia
betray Luke.

[EGK]

On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 19:04:31 +1300, Your Name <Your...@YourISP.com> wrote:

>In article <neCdnb7eS9dFPDrL...@giganews.com>, BTR1701
><no_e...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> EGK <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Yup but the claim was the show and how it would end was all mapped out. Much
>> > like George Lucas always claimed he had Star Wars all mapped out through 9
>> > movies. Horse shit! They just made it up as it went along like everything
>> > else.
>>
>> Yeah, I can't imagine Lucas going to such lengths to lay the groundwork for
>> a romance between Luke and Leia in the first film if he knew all along they
>> were brother/sister.
>
>George Lucas never claimed to have a story completely mapped out for
>nine (or twelve) movies. He said he had a story outline, that *could*
>make nine of twelve movies. That actual storyline was fleshed out and
>altered as he wrote the scripts and made the movies.

You're wrong. He's been making claims like that since the original trilogy.
Here's an example:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/22/star-wars-prequels-return-of-the-jedi_n_3313793.html

In fact, he was still making claims like that in his recent interview with
Charlie Rose where he said he had sold his "kids" to "white slavers". He
said they didn't want his ideas.

[EGK]

Next you'll be defending Lucas for his changes in the original movie and
giving Lucas version for why it's best to have Greedo shoot first.

[Your Name]

In article <64ohablu5e2hojsbr...@4ax.com>, EGK

Let's try simple words:
George Lucas NEVER said he had a FULLY WRITTEN STORY
for nine / twelve movies.

[EGK]

So now it's FULLY WRITTEN STORY instead of "mapped out". Nice straw man
there. If you object to "mapped out" meaning I claimed he had every detail
thought out, that's not the case.
You're welcome to drink the Lucas koolaid and come up with all the excuses
you like though but he did make claims like that. Your excuses for Obi
Wan's dialog to Luke in the first movie is particularly amusing.

It's not hard to find articles like this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars
Lucas often exaggerated the amount of material he wrote for the series; much
of it stemmed from the post-1978 period when the series grew into a
phenomenon. Michael Kaminski explained that these exaggerations were both a
publicity and security measure. Kaminski rationalized that since the series'
story radically changed throughout the years, it was always Lucas' intention
to change the original story retroactively because audiences would only view
the material from his perspective.[27][72] When congratulating the producers
of the TV series Lost in 2010, Lucas himself jokingly admitted, "when Star
Wars first came out, I didn't know where it was going either. The trick is
to pretend you've planned the whole thing out in advance. Throw in some
father issues and references to other stories – let's call them homages –
and you've got a series".[73]

[Your Name]

In article <u0ciabdmc5snu1kiu...@4ax.com>, EGK

George Lucas never had a complete story ... in any form nor pedantic
terminology you want to use.

He simply had a rough story outline. That original outline has been
altered and added to numerous times as he has written the actual story
for each movie's production.

Anyone who claims he had a complete story is either an imbecile or is
believing the usual crap journalistic mis-reporting.

[EGK]

Now you're agreeing with me or did you totally misread what I originally
said and just wanted to troll? Lucas is the one most famous for
perpetuating the MYTH that he had things planned out from the beginning. You
can't blame it on the media mils-reporting. Lucas, himself, was the one
making the exaggerated claims. I always thought it was bullshit. The same
way I called bullshit when Carter claimed it for The X-Files. Lucas even
admits it himself in the quote you cut about congratulating the LOST
producers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars

When congratulating the producers of the TV series Lost in 2010, Lucas
himself jokingly admitted, "when Star Wars first came out, I didn't know
where it was going either. The trick is to pretend you've planned the whole
thing out in advance. Throw in some father issues and references to other
stories – let's call them homages – and you've got a series

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/History_of_Star_Wars#History

George Lucas has often exaggerated the amount of material he had written for
the series, most of these exaggerations stemming from the post-1978 period
where the film grew into a true phenomenon. Lucasfilm often indicated that
he had written twelve stories to be filmed, and Lucas was quick to tell how
Star Wars was always Episode IV that was meant as a middle-chapter. Lucas
also began to claim that Darth Vader's parentage of Luke and redemption was
always a major part of his plan from early on, and even that this was his
very first script or treatment. As Jonathan Rinzler and Michael Kaminski
show, this is demonstrably false. Kaminski rationalizes that these
exaggerations are part publicity device and part security measure — with the
series and story radically changing throughout the years, Lucas would
emphasize that its current embodiment was the original intention; with the
series previously existing as different and often contradictory forms, this
makes audiences view the material only from the perspective that Lucas'
wishes them to view the material, and it also may protect against outrage
that such a popular storyline was being changed post-release after being
cherished by so many.

[Your Name]

In article <gpoiab5803buvd1h6...@4ax.com>, EGK
<m...@privacy.net> wrote:
<snip the usual load of bollocks and drivel>

Whatever utter garbage you want to delude yourself with. :-\

[EGK]

I guess it's pretty hard to continue arguing when Lucas's own quotes and a
book written about the history of Star Wars prove you wrong. I'd call THAT
living in denial.

I grant you gave it a good try by creating strawman arguments. Injecting
things like "he never mapped out 9 or 12 films". Things I never said.

[Your Name]

In article <fj5jab9k8alg56j31...@4ax.com>, EGK

It just the usual crap that comes up every so often when some newbie
looks up the history of Star Wars, finds this urban myth, and then adds
2 + 2 to get 15. :-\

There was no "9 nine movies", there was no "Trilogy of Trilogies",
there was no "12 movies", and there was no highly detailed fully
written / fully mapped out storyline ... it's all a load of
mis-reported crap.

[EGK]

A newbie who remembers when the original Star Wars was $2, collected
magazines with features about the movie, read the novelization before the
movie came out and even read interviews with Lucas at the time.

But what the hell, let the dark side take you. Let your butt-hurt flow,
keep making excuses for Obi Wan's dialog to Luke in Star Wars and how it
really does tie-in to the sequels, and by all means, keep up with the
strawman arguments. YOU are the only one who mentioned 9 or 12 movies. I
only count the first trilogy not the shitty prequels.

[Michael Black]

Yes. I knew at the time of the original trilogy that there were more
stories to tell (though maybe not the way it ended up). I can't remember
if that was popular knowledge, or my friend who kept up with such things
had read it.

"It doesn't stop at three, there were three that come before it, and three
that come after it".

And then later, "I guess we aren't going to be able to finish it, I'll be
too old".

Michael

[EGK]

I don't know why "Your Name" took such offense to an off-hand comment. I
thought it was common knowledge with people my age that saw the original in
theaters. Lucas was famous for perpetuating that myth that he had things
all planned out. His own quote congratuating the LOST producers shows he's
aware of it himself.

I never said he claimed detailed scripts were written. Even during the
first trilogy it was obvious he was making it up as he went along. There
was nothing wrong with that. I still loved them. The prequels... not so
much.

[Your Name]

In article <8rnkabdqcq41ph3qv...@4ax.com>, EGK

It's "common knowledge" because lots of morons stupidly believe a
misreported load of bollocks by an idiot journalist. :-\

If you look at the various original draft stories, you'll find there
isn't really even enough to make one movie (although Hollyweird has
stupidly made movies out of a lot less!), let alone nine or twelve. The
whole "Trilogy or trilogies" is a complete myth.

There was never some grand master plan. There was only ever a vague
story outline ... one that has long since been completely altered and
changed over the years.

[EGK]

I still don't understand what you're arguing about then but your use of ad
hominem argument doesn't help. You're agreeing with me again.

"There was never some grand master plan. Just a vague story outline, one

that has long since been completely altered and changed over the years. "

The part you appear to disagree with is that Lucas, himself, is the one who
often perpetuated the myth that he had things planned out. I gave you
evidence but you dont want to believe it so we'll leave it there.