Rotten Tomatoes To Censor Any Negative Comments For “Black Panther”

[Ed Stasiak]

http://www.indiewire.com/2018/02/rotten-tomatoes-block-black-panther-fan-score-sabotage-1201924400/
Zack Sharf
Feb 2, 2018

Rotten Tomatoes Will Block Anyone Who Tries to Sabotage ‘Black Panther’ Fan Score:
‘We Do Not Condone Hate Speech’

The website previously fought against groups trying to negatively influence the "Star Wars:
The Last Jedi" fan score.

Rotten Tomatoes is taking a preemptive stand against anyone who is planning to negatively
impact the “Black Panther” fan score out of hate. The alt-right Facebook group “Down With
Disney’s Treatment of Franchises and its Fanboys” made headlines this week when it
announced plans to sabotage the “Black Panther” score out of hatred for Marvel. The group
previously took responsibility for targeting “Star Wars: The Last Jedi” with negative scores.

The group has created a Facebook event called “Give Black Panther a Rotten Audience Score
on Rotten Tomatoes” that is set to launch February 16, the day “Black Panther” opens in theaters
nationwide.

The event has the following mission statement: “Due to the sudden rise in those disgruntled with
Disney business practices, especially due to the corporate manipulations which created falsified
bad press for the DCEU, I feel that it’s time to strike back at all those under Disney and bring
down the house of mouse’s actions for paying off the critics that hurt DC Comics on film and for
other parties affected by them.”

A spokesperson for Rotten Tomatoes reacted to this threat in a statement given to the The Wrap:

“We at Rotten Tomatoes are proud to have become a platform for passionate fans to debate and
discuss entertainment and we take that responsibility seriously. While we respect our fans’ diverse
opinions, we do not condone hate speech. Our team of security, network and social experts continue
to closely monitor our platforms and any users who engage in such activities will be blocked from
our site and their comments removed as quickly as possible.”

“Black Panther” is expected to earn anywhere from $120 to $150 million when it opens President’s
Day Weekend.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <465153cf-4777-4186...@googlegroups.com>,
Ed Stasiak <esta...@att.net> wrote:

> http://www.indiewire.com/2018/02/rotten-tomatoes-block-black-panther-fan-score

Okay, I freely admit to not paying *any* attention to the newer Star
Wars. Why are DC fanboys mad about that?

And do I read this correctly, that these guys hate all Marvel stuff,
because they mistakenly think the new DC stuff isn't garbage, but "anti
Marvel" only becomes 'hate speech' when it's targeted at Black Panther?

--
Join your old RAT friends at
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1688985234647266/

[Obveeus]

On 2/2/2018 11:56 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

> Okay, I freely admit to not paying *any* attention to the newer Star
> Wars. Why are DC fanboys mad about that?

Because it did better at the box office than the DC films? Is that why
they are attacking Marvel product as well?

> And do I read this correctly, that these guys hate all Marvel stuff,
> because they mistakenly think the new DC stuff isn't garbage, but "anti
> Marvel" only becomes 'hate speech' when it's targeted at Black Panther?

BLACK PANTHER is simply the first film coming out since this online
attack became known.

[Ed Stasiak]

> anim8rfsk

>
> Okay, I freely admit to not paying *any* attention to the newer
> Star Wars.  Why are DC fanboys mad about that?

It wasn’t DC fans who were mad about Disney Wars, it was people in
general who were mad at Disney for making shitty movies and beating
them over the head with political correctness.

[David Johnston]

On 2018-02-02 9:56 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> In article <465153cf-4777-4186...@googlegroups.com>,
> Ed Stasiak <esta...@att.net> wrote:
>
>> http://www.indiewire.com/2018/02/rotten-tomatoes-block-black-panther-fan-score
>> -sabotage-1201924400/
>> Zack Sharf
>> Feb 2, 2018
>>

>> Rotten Tomatoes Will Block Anyone Who Tries to Sabotage ‘Black Panther’ Fan
>> Score:
>> ‘We Do Not Condone Hate Speech’

>>
>> The website previously fought against groups trying to negatively influence
>> the "Star Wars:
>> The Last Jedi" fan score.
>>
>> Rotten Tomatoes is taking a preemptive stand against anyone who is planning
>> to negatively

>> impact the “Black Panther†fan score out of hate. The alt-right Facebook
>> group “Down With
>> Disney’s Treatment of Franchises and its Fanboys†made headlines this week
>> when it
>> announced plans to sabotage the “Black Panther†score out of hatred for
>> Marvel. The group
>> previously took responsibility for targeting “Star Wars: The Last Jedi†with
>> negative scores.
>>
>> The group has created a Facebook event called “Give Black Panther a Rotten
>> Audience Score
>> on Rotten Tomatoes†that is set to launch February 16, the day “Black
>> Panther†opens in theaters
>> nationwide.
>>
>> The event has the following mission statement: “Due to the sudden rise in

>> those disgruntled with
>> Disney business practices, especially due to the corporate manipulations
>> which created falsified

>> bad press for the DCEU, I feel that it’s time to strike back at all those
>> under Disney and bring
>> down the house of mouse’s actions for paying off the critics that hurt DC

>> Comics on film and for

>> other parties affected by them.â€

>>
>> A spokesperson for Rotten Tomatoes reacted to this threat in a statement

>> given to the The Wrap:
>>
>> “We at Rotten Tomatoes are proud to have become a platform for passionate

>> fans to debate and
>> discuss entertainment and we take that responsibility seriously. While we

>> respect our fans’ diverse
>> opinions, we do not condone hate speech. Our team of security, network and

>> social experts continue
>> to closely monitor our platforms and any users who engage in

>> such activities will be blocked from
>> our site and their comments removed as quickly as possible.â€
>>
>> “Black Panther†is expected to earn anywhere from $120 to $150 million when
>> it opens President’s

>> Day Weekend.
>
> Okay, I freely admit to not paying *any* attention to the newer Star
> Wars. Why are DC fanboys mad about that?

They are upset that the two new leads are a woman and a black guy and
now a Vietnamese woman has been introduced. But "Wait" you say. "What
does that have to do with being a DC fanboy?". Not a damn thing.

>
> And do I read this correctly, that these guys hate all Marvel stuff,
> because they mistakenly think the new DC stuff isn't garbage, but "anti
> Marvel" only becomes 'hate speech' when it's targeted at Black Panther?
>

They didn't organize such a campaign for any of the other Marvel stuff.
Something about Black Panther seems to bother them more. Can't imagine
what.

[Ed Stasiak]

> David Johnston
> > anim8rfsk

> >
> > And do I read this correctly, that these guys hate all Marvel stuff,
> > because they mistakenly think the new DC stuff isn't garbage, but "anti
> > Marvel" only becomes 'hate speech' when it's targeted at Black Panther?
>
> They didn't organize such a campaign for any of the other Marvel stuff.
> Something about Black Panther seems to bother them more. Can't imagine
> what.

Looks to me like the Left didn't pay close enough attention to the Black Panther
comic and now they're worried this movie is backfiring on them.

https://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2018/01/30/19640958/proud-boys-are-trying-to-co-opt-black-panther

[RichA]

Rotten Tomatoes censor gazes intently into his crystal ball.

[BTR1701]

Ed Stasiak <esta...@att.net> wrote:

> http://www.indiewire.com/2018/02/rotten-tomatoes-block-black-panther-fan-score-sabotage-1201924400/
> Zack Sharf
> Feb 2, 2018
>

> Rotten Tomatoes Will Block Anyone Who Tries to Sabotage BLACK PANTHER Fan Score:

> 'We Do Not Condone Hate Speech'
>

> The website previously fought against groups trying to negatively influence the STAR WARS:
> THE LAST JEDI fan score.

>
> Rotten Tomatoes is taking a preemptive stand against anyone who is planning to negatively

> impact the BLACK PANTHER fan score out of hate.

So how does management tell the difference between a bad review based on
someone just honestly thinking the movie sucked and a bad review based on
'hate'?

Or have they taken the position that it's impossible for anyone to honestly
dislike a movie if the cast is completely diverse (i.e., non-white),
therefore any negative review is de facto based on hate?

[BTR1701]

I did think it's pretty funny that the Marvel Universe seems to be putting
forth the notion that Africa has been hiding the fact that it has produced
the most advanced civilization in human history and all the dirt-poor
countries and disease, starvation, and endless slaughtering are all just
camouflage to keep the rest of the world from discovering the existence of
the real Wakanda. Which pretty much makes the Wakandans a bunch of morally
reprehensible assholes. Not only are they not sharing their vast wealth and
prosperity with their fellow Africans, as good socialists should, but
they're actually invested in keeping the rest of Africa in a state of
desperate poverty as part of their strategy of isolationism.

[shawn]

Oooooohhhhh! Don't let the Internet hear you suggesting such a thing.
Otherwise people will be haunting you for decades to come.

[David Johnston]

They aren't socialists. They're an old-school monarchy.

[David Johnston]

No they haven't In fact the Star Wars TLJ score is artificially low
because they can't really stop these guys. The popular score that is.
The critic score was pretty damn high bearing mind that it's only how
many critics liked it not how much they liked it.

[anim8rfsk]

In article
<1238438658.539329383.827405...@news.giganews.co
m>,

Sadly I'm betting on the latter.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <tula7dlvb6ugkrr68...@4ax.com>,

lol

[anim8rfsk]

In article
<1844154603.539331014.404928...@news.giganews.co

m>,
BTR1701 <addre...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

This sort of flew in the 60s, when Africa wasn't in such bad straights
(or at least we didn't hear about it) but even then it was a little
dubious, as was "why the Hell doesn't this guy stay home and take care
of his people rather than looking for action in Manhattan?"

[FPP]

So you're saying they're Republicans! Yeah... that checks out.

--
"Politicians can be cheered for the promises they make. Our country will
be judged by the promises we keep. That is the measure of our
character, that's who we are. Out of many, One." - Joseph P. Kennedy III
1-30-18

[trotsky]

On 2/3/18 12:18 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
> Ed Stasiak <esta...@att.net> wrote:
>
>>> David Johnston
>
>>>> anim8rfsk
>>>>
>>>> And do I read this correctly, that these guys hate all Marvel stuff,
>>>> because they mistakenly think the new DC stuff isn't garbage, but "anti
>>>> Marvel" only becomes 'hate speech' when it's targeted at Black Panther?
>>>
>>> They didn't organize such a campaign for any of the other Marvel stuff.
>>> Something about Black Panther seems to bother them more. Can't imagine
>>> what.
>>
>> Looks to me like the Left didn't pay close enough attention to the Black Panther
>> comic and now they're worried this movie is backfiring on them.
>>
>> https://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2018/01/30/19640958/proud-boys-are-trying-to-co-opt-black-panther
>
> I did think it's pretty funny that the Marvel Universe seems to be putting
> forth the notion that Africa has been hiding the fact that it has produced
> the most advanced civilization in human history

Wow, if you find that "funny" you must have literally split your sides
open when you heard about a baby being sent here from the planet Krypton
in a rocketship! "BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! And I'm supposed to believe the
planet Krypton ever existed! These comics are the worst documents of
human history ever! LOLOLOL!!!!!"

[BTR1701]

Obviously. But they *should* be socialists. Just ask any leftist around
here. They'll tell you so.

[FPP]

Well, as one of those "any leftists", I'm here to tell you that you're
full of shit.
But, then, I'm not really revealing anything new, am I?

[trotsky]

Thanny's getting weird, it's really hard to tell these days if he's
trolling or just full of shit as usual.

[Obveeus]

They can look for waves of first time accounts setting up and voting
down BLACK PANTHER all of a sudden. They can look at waves of bad
clicks that all hit at the same time (say 12:01am).

These racists are real and the flashlight is shining on them.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <p54hii$bhh$1...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

Wait - didn't you just post that this wasn't based on racism, and that
Black Panther was just the first Marvel film to hit since these guys
started?

[Obveeus]

I think the Facebook group (now gone back into the shadows) is led by a
bunch of racists trying to dupe a bunch of DC fanboy idiots into doing
their bidding. This is very similar to the kind of crap Russians have
duped various Americans into being part of...and a significant numbe rof
those Russian con jobs were related to building the racial divide in
this country as well.

[RichA]

The light of the wonderful, wonderful corporate or state civil comportment enforcement apparatus!!!

[David Johnston]

Are there any leftists around here?

[BTR1701]

Yes.

[moviePig]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFe-p1gbKEc

--

- - - - - - - -
YOUR taste at work...
http://www.moviepig.com

[David Johnston]

And yet none of them are telling me so.

[Adam H. Kerman]

I'm sure BTR1701 and Rich think I am, and Irish condemns me regularly,
and we won't even mention mime. I just pissed off BTR1701 the other day
when I agreed with the asshole mayor of El Lay that La Migra shouldn't
call itself "police" when conducting immigration raids, and he hasn't
spoken to me since!

As a liberal, I object to socialism. I guess I am forced to agree with
you, Johnston. That DOESN'T mean that I don't recognize that those in
Africa that control vast natural resources aren't using intimidation,
confiscation, and war to control it.

As a leftie, it doesn't mean I have the first clue what anyone born
in the last 20 or 25 years is on about. Listening to this week's This
American Life, it opened with a disagreement between Ira Glass (a Jew)
with the newish young producer (young enough to be his daughter) that
calling someone a Jew instead of "Jewish person" is offensive. Glass said
he never got the memo that it's offensive to refer to a Jew as a Jew.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <p55294$3q1$1...@dont-email.me>,

I got busted on that. I never got that memo either. I was told
"Jewish" is okay, but "Jew" isn't.

It's as bad as calling an Oriental person "Oriental" because somehow
somebody incorrectly decided that "Oriental" only applies to rugs and
such.

[BTR1701]

Who are you asking?

[suzeeq]

I'm sorta to the left of center on most things, but not the far left.

[David Johnston]

Hey| Anyone here think the Wakandans should be socialists?

[FPP]

Yes comrade. We're all part of the "Deep State"... which is a good
thing, because the real State is in "Deep Shit".

[FPP]

Make a list. I hear Black paper makes a good substrate.

[FPP]

Fictional socialists? Because, like, in a fictional country?

[FPP]

The center is the new far left. The right is now the batshit right.

[David Johnston]

Sure, whatever.

[RichA]

Look in a mirror

[Dimensional Traveler]

If you are to the left of Genghis Khan, you are far left. If you are to
the right of Stalin, you are far right.

--
Inquiring minds want to know while minds with a self-preservation
instinct are running screaming.

[suzeeq]

That's not how it works.

[BTR1701]

So you're abandoning your principles so that you can win on Usenet? Wow!

Or do you believe only the US should be socialist? Is that the weasel
you're going to use here?

> But, then, I'm not really revealing anything new, am I?

Rarely, if ever.

[shawn]

While that description is an exaggeration it does seem to be the case
that the lines have moved towards the right over the past few decades
to the point that the left is much more conservative than it was back
in the 60s. I'm not sure if there are any true leftists like in the
60s that are in the public eye today. At least in the USA. Supposedly
the same thing seems to be happening around the world with the rise of
populism.

[Dimensional Traveler]

You haven't been paying _any_ attention to the news I see.

[suzeeq]

Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> On 2/3/2018 5:03 PM, suzeeq wrote:
>> Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>> On 2/3/2018 12:44 PM, suzeeq wrote:
>>>> David Johnston wrote:
>>>>> On 2018-02-03 11:34 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> David Johnston <davidjo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Are there any leftists around here?
>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>> And yet none of them are telling me so.
>>>> I'm sorta to the left of center on most things, but not the far left.
>>> If you are to the left of Genghis Khan, you are far left. If you are
>>> to the right of Stalin, you are far right.
>> That's not how it works.
>
> You haven't been paying _any_ attention to the news I see.
>

I don't pay it much attention, no.

[FPP]

By telling you that you're full of shit? Naaahhh... that's just being
factual.

[FPP]

On 2/3/18 10:41 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

You do the reveal yourself, every time. You don't need me to hold up a
mirror so you can see what you are.

It isn't hard for the rest of us to see it.

[RichA]

Never hear the theory that the political spectrum is a circle and the totalitarian left meet the totalitarian right?

[trotsky]

Or just bat shit period. Here's their new theme song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k67MXAsSrJs

[suzeeq]

No.

[Ubiquitous]

In article <p53fm9$b28$1...@dont-email.me>, Obv...@aol.com wrote:
>On 2/2/2018 11:56 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

>> Okay, I freely admit to not paying *any* attention to the newer Star
>> Wars. Why are DC fanboys mad about that?
>
>Because it did better at the box office than the DC films? Is that why
>they are attacking Marvel product as well?

>
>> And do I read this correctly, that these guys hate all Marvel stuff,
>> because they mistakenly think the new DC stuff isn't garbage, but "anti
>> Marvel" only becomes 'hate speech' when it's targeted at Black Panther?
>

>BLACK PANTHER is simply the first film coming out since this online
>attack became known.

I thought that female remake of Ghost Busters was the first.

--
Dems & the media want Trump to be more like Obama, but then he'd
have to audit liberals & wire tap reporters' phones.

[Ubiquitous]

Obv...@aol.com wrote:
>On 2/3/2018 10:54 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>> Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>>> On 2/3/2018 1:59 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:

>>>> BTR1701 <addre...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> Ed Stasiak <esta...@att.net> wrote:

>>>>>> Rotten Tomatoes Will Block Anyone Who Tries to Sabotage BLACK PANTHER
>>>>>> Fan Score: 'We Do Not Condone Hate Speech'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The website previously fought against groups trying to negatively
>>>>>> influence the STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI fan score.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rotten Tomatoes is taking a preemptive stand against anyone who is
>>>>>> planning to negatively impact the BLACK PANTHER fan score out of hate.
>>>>>
>>>>> So how does management tell the difference between a bad review based on
>>>>> someone just honestly thinking the movie sucked and a bad review based
>>>>> on 'hate'?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or have they taken the position that it's impossible for anyone to
>>>>> honestly
>>>>> dislike a movie if the cast is completely diverse (i.e., non-white),
>>>>> therefore any negative review is de facto based on hate?
>>>>
>>>> Sadly I'm betting on the latter.
>>>
>>> They can look for waves of first time accounts setting up and voting
>>> down BLACK PANTHER all of a sudden. They can look at waves of bad
>>> clicks that all hit at the same time (say 12:01am).
>>>
>>> These racists are real and the flashlight is shining on them.
>>
>> Wait - didn't you just post that this wasn't based on racism, and that
>> Black Panther was just the first Marvel film to hit since these guys
>> started?
>
>I think the Facebook group (now gone back into the shadows) is led by a
>bunch of racists trying to dupe a bunch of DC fanboy idiots into doing
>their bidding. This is very similar to the kind of crap Russians have
>duped various Americans into being part of...and a significant numbe rof
>those Russian con jobs were related to building the racial divide in
>this country as well.

Obama did that just fine without Russia's help.
#ThanksObama

[anim8rfsk]

In article <p588ri$tnb$1...@dont-email.me>,

Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:

> In article <p53fm9$b28$1...@dont-email.me>, Obv...@aol.com wrote:
> >On 2/2/2018 11:56 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>
> >> Okay, I freely admit to not paying *any* attention to the newer Star
> >> Wars. Why are DC fanboys mad about that?
> >
> >Because it did better at the box office than the DC films? Is that why
> >they are attacking Marvel product as well?
> >
> >> And do I read this correctly, that these guys hate all Marvel stuff,
> >> because they mistakenly think the new DC stuff isn't garbage, but "anti
> >> Marvel" only becomes 'hate speech' when it's targeted at Black Panther?
> >
> >BLACK PANTHER is simply the first film coming out since this online
> >attack became known.
>
> I thought that female remake of Ghost Busters was the first.

I saw my first ad for Black Panther today. Jesus, it's like AUTOMAN the
movie. I wouldn't go near it with Obveeus' eyes.

[Ubiquitous]

In article <anim8rfsk-EA466...@news.easynews.com>, anim...@cox.net wrote:

> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>> Obv...@aol.com wrote:
>> >On 2/2/2018 11:56 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

>> >> Okay, I freely admit to not paying *any* attention to the newer Star
>> >> Wars. Why are DC fanboys mad about that?
>> >
>> >Because it did better at the box office than the DC films? Is that why
>> >they are attacking Marvel product as well?
>> >
>> >> And do I read this correctly, that these guys hate all Marvel stuff,
>> >> because they mistakenly think the new DC stuff isn't garbage, but "anti
>> >> Marvel" only becomes 'hate speech' when it's targeted at Black Panther?
>> >
>> >BLACK PANTHER is simply the first film coming out since this online
>> >attack became known.
>>
>> I thought that female remake of Ghost Busters was the first.
>
>I saw my first ad for Black Panther today. Jesus, it's like AUTOMAN the
>movie. I wouldn't go near it with Obveeus' eyes.

*GASP*
Why that's RACIST!

#ThanksObama

[anim8rfsk]

In article <n9adnbaWofp9L-rH...@giganews.com>,

Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:

> In article <anim8rfsk-EA466...@news.easynews.com>,
> anim...@cox.net wrote:
> > Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> >> Obv...@aol.com wrote:
> >> >On 2/2/2018 11:56 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>
> >> >> Okay, I freely admit to not paying *any* attention to the newer Star
> >> >> Wars. Why are DC fanboys mad about that?
> >> >
> >> >Because it did better at the box office than the DC films? Is that why
> >> >they are attacking Marvel product as well?
> >> >
> >> >> And do I read this correctly, that these guys hate all Marvel stuff,
> >> >> because they mistakenly think the new DC stuff isn't garbage, but "anti
> >> >> Marvel" only becomes 'hate speech' when it's targeted at Black Panther?
> >> >
> >> >BLACK PANTHER is simply the first film coming out since this online
> >> >attack became known.
> >>
> >> I thought that female remake of Ghost Busters was the first.
> >
> >I saw my first ad for Black Panther today. Jesus, it's like AUTOMAN the
> >movie. I wouldn't go near it with Obveeus' eyes.
>
> *GASP*
> Why that's RACIST!
>
> #ThanksObama

Yep. Apparently that's why I disliked Captain America too. And those
awful Hulk movies. And the Natalie Portman Thor movies - only reason to
dislike Portman is racism. Iron Man 2 had a black guy in there
somewhere didn't it? And Spider-Man! Boy, howdy.

At least we're allowed to point out that the DC movies are absolute
garbage on their own lack of merits.

[shawn]

On Sun, 04 Feb 2018 19:34:58 -0500, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net>
wrote:

>In article <p53fm9$b28$1...@dont-email.me>, Obv...@aol.com wrote:
>>On 2/2/2018 11:56 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>
>>> Okay, I freely admit to not paying *any* attention to the newer Star
>>> Wars. Why are DC fanboys mad about that?
>>
>>Because it did better at the box office than the DC films? Is that why
>>they are attacking Marvel product as well?
>>
>>> And do I read this correctly, that these guys hate all Marvel stuff,
>>> because they mistakenly think the new DC stuff isn't garbage, but "anti
>>> Marvel" only becomes 'hate speech' when it's targeted at Black Panther?

My problem with DC is that they don't do a good job of delivering good
character development in their movies. In the animated cartoons they
did a good job but for some reason their characters fall flat in the
movies, while Marvel does a good job of delivering characters that you
can like in the movies. Haven't seen the BP trailers (or the WW movie)
yet so I don't know if this will mark a turn-around for DC or not.

They certainly can deliver good movies if they really wanted to but
something goes wrong in the process. Maybe too much meddling from the
studio heads or maybe they just can't pick good people to write/direct
the movies.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <lsjf7dl3ajvthptfu...@4ax.com>,

shawn <nanof...@notformailgmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 04 Feb 2018 19:34:58 -0500, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <p53fm9$b28$1...@dont-email.me>, Obv...@aol.com wrote:
> >>On 2/2/2018 11:56 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> >
> >>> Okay, I freely admit to not paying *any* attention to the newer Star
> >>> Wars. Why are DC fanboys mad about that?
> >>
> >>Because it did better at the box office than the DC films? Is that why
> >>they are attacking Marvel product as well?
> >>
> >>> And do I read this correctly, that these guys hate all Marvel stuff,
> >>> because they mistakenly think the new DC stuff isn't garbage, but "anti
> >>> Marvel" only becomes 'hate speech' when it's targeted at Black Panther?
>
> My problem with DC is that they don't do a good job of delivering good
> character development in their movies. In the animated cartoons they
> did a good job but for some reason their characters fall flat in the
> movies, while Marvel does a good job of delivering characters that you
> can like in the movies. Haven't seen the BP trailers (or the WW movie)
> yet so I don't know if this will mark a turn-around for DC or not.

BP is Marvel. And I didn't recognize anyone or anything. But they were
as tied in with the Fantastic Four (and later the Avengers) as The
Inhumans were, so there may not be anything left for me to recognize.

> They certainly can deliver good movies if they really wanted to but
> something goes wrong in the process. Maybe too much meddling from the
> studio heads or maybe they just can't pick good people to write/direct
> the movies.

DC has legacy issues too, like Jon Peters, who's been screwing up
Superman movies for decades. He's entrenched in the producer loop and
they can't get him out.

[Obveeus]

It isn't inspiring me to want to go to the theater, either. Sadly, this
is the time of year when pickings are slim. The latest JUMANGI movie is
in its 7th week of release and is back at #1 because nothing is there to
dethrone it.

[Obveeus]

Well, no, that's sexism.

> Iron Man 2 had a black guy in there
> somewhere didn't it? And Spider-Man! Boy, howdy.
>
> At least we're allowed to point out that the DC movies are absolute
> garbage on their own lack of merits.

Plenty of bad reviews for BLACK PANTHER will be allowed to show up on
Rottentomatoes, IMDB, etc... What they will be trying to block is the
coordinated effort fake reviews. Anyone who cares about the continued
existence of those websites (which do serve as good promoters of what
films are in theaters and what TV is out now (and historically)) should
be glad to see them trying to maintain their websites in a responsible
manner.

[shawn]

On Sun, 04 Feb 2018 21:01:03 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net>
wrote:

>In article <lsjf7dl3ajvthptfu...@4ax.com>,
> shawn <nanof...@notformailgmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 04 Feb 2018 19:34:58 -0500, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <p53fm9$b28$1...@dont-email.me>, Obv...@aol.com wrote:
>> >>On 2/2/2018 11:56 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>> >
>> >>> Okay, I freely admit to not paying *any* attention to the newer Star
>> >>> Wars. Why are DC fanboys mad about that?
>> >>
>> >>Because it did better at the box office than the DC films? Is that why
>> >>they are attacking Marvel product as well?
>> >>
>> >>> And do I read this correctly, that these guys hate all Marvel stuff,
>> >>> because they mistakenly think the new DC stuff isn't garbage, but "anti
>> >>> Marvel" only becomes 'hate speech' when it's targeted at Black Panther?
>>
>> My problem with DC is that they don't do a good job of delivering good
>> character development in their movies. In the animated cartoons they
>> did a good job but for some reason their characters fall flat in the
>> movies, while Marvel does a good job of delivering characters that you
>> can like in the movies. Haven't seen the BP trailers (or the WW movie)
>> yet so I don't know if this will mark a turn-around for DC or not.
>
>BP is Marvel. And I didn't recognize anyone or anything. But they were
>as tied in with the Fantastic Four (and later the Avengers) as The
>Inhumans were, so there may not be anything left for me to recognize.

Yeah, I got my secret super society African cities confused for a
moment. With BP and the city's control of Vibranium and that being the
secret to Captain America's shield I knew that but had a momentary
confusion. I know there's been recent speculation (like the last few
days) that BP will play a bigger role in the upcoming Avengers movies
(much like it seems they are doing with Spiderman). Guess it's time to
bring in some new blood in case Downey takes a leave so they either
need to bring in a new Iron Man or write him out for a bit.

>> They certainly can deliver good movies if they really wanted to but
>> something goes wrong in the process. Maybe too much meddling from the
>> studio heads or maybe they just can't pick good people to write/direct
>> the movies.
>
>DC has legacy issues too, like Jon Peters, who's been screwing up
>Superman movies for decades. He's entrenched in the producer loop and
>they can't get him out.

That may be the case but nothing prevents them from treating him the
way they do in Japan with executives they no longer need but won't
fire. Just take away all of his decision making ability so he still
gets paid, but for doing nothing. That limits his ability to screw up
anything.

[Ubiquitous]

anim...@cox.net wrote:
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>> anim...@cox.net wrote:
>>> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>> Obv...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>On 2/2/2018 11:56 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

>>>>>> And do I read this correctly, that these guys hate all Marvel stuff,
>>>>>> because they mistakenly think the new DC stuff isn't garbage, but "anti
>>>>>> Marvel" only becomes 'hate speech' when it's targeted at Black Panther?
>>>>>
>>>>>BLACK PANTHER is simply the first film coming out since this online
>>>>>attack became known.
>>>>
>>>> I thought that female remake of Ghost Busters was the first.
>>>
>>>I saw my first ad for Black Panther today. Jesus, it's like AUTOMAN the
>>>movie. I wouldn't go near it with Obveeus' eyes.
>>
>> *GASP*
>> Why that's RACIST!
>>
>> #ThanksObama
>
>Yep. Apparently that's why I disliked Captain America too. And those
>awful Hulk movies. And the Natalie Portman Thor movies - only reason to
>dislike Portman is racism. Iron Man 2 had a black guy in there
>somewhere didn't it? And Spider-Man! Boy, howdy.
>
>At least we're allowed to point out that the DC movies are absolute
>garbage on their own lack of merits.

Count your blessings! :-D

[anim8rfsk]

In article <p58kve$i1r$5...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

It seemed to be all women jumping around on neon cars in the dark. I
want to see Klaw and his vibranium arm!

[anim8rfsk]

In article <stlf7d5d3f140pg1p...@4ax.com>,

They can't do that. That's what Kevin Smith's speech is all about -
look up Kevin Smith Superman on the YouTube. Peters has some right of
approval and they can't get around him.

[Jim G.]

suzeeq sent the following on 02/03/2018 at 07:03 PM:

That sounds like something that Stalin would say. :)

--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
"Captain, respectfully submit that the attractiveness of the ship's
occupant makes the rescue imperative." -- Lt. Gordon Malloy, THE ORVILLE

[jvv...@gmail.com]

Since reviewing black panther negatively, they removed any negative reiviews from my the 3 years I have been reviewing. They alledgely leave the rating but remove your review. This is insane.