Olbermann: "It was a great speech if you were on another planet for the last
57 days."
Matthews compared Obama to Carter.
Olbermann: "Nothing specific at all was said."
Matthews: "No direction."
Howard Fineman: "He wasn't specific enough."
Olbermann: "I don't think he aimed low, I don't think he aimed at all. It's
startling."
Howard Fineman: Obama should be acting like a "commander-in-chief."
Matthews: Ludicrous that he keeps saying [Secretary of Energy] Chu has a Nobel
prize. "I'll barf if he does it one more time."
Matthews: "A lot of meritocracy, a lot of blue ribbon talk."
Matthews: "I don't sense executive command."
--
Yes, we can!
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/1217081mugyear20.html
when the king of all liebigots " Olberman " starts trashing the chimp
in charge then he is toast for sure .
>>On 6/16/10 4:21 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>
>>
>>So now you like MSNBC? How confused are you, Ubi?
>>
>>You epitomize the term "rightard".
liebigots rise against Obama and his un leadership abilities . That is
funny . He is toast . Even MSNBC finds him to be an incompetent fool
I didn't sense it when he was just a community agitator either. Some
things just never change.
>
>"trotsky" <gms...@email.com> wrote in message
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>> On 6/16/10 4:21 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>
>>
>> So now you like MSNBC? How confused are you, Ubi?
>>
>> You epitomize the term "rightard".
>
>It does seem a bit odd that the people are using quotes/clips from MSNBC to
>'prove' how bad Obama is, while at the same time those same people claim
>that MSNBC is nothing more than a shill for Democrat propaganda. If nothing
>else, this proves that MSNBC doesn't do nearly as good/thorough a job
>shilling as FOX News does for the Republican propaganda.
>
>
Actually, while *most* of Fox's editorialists lean right, their
journalism is objective.
The mainstream media, by contrast is left, both their journalism and
their editorial opinions. Been that way since at least the 60s.
>
>"trotsky" <gms...@email.com> wrote in message
>news:RoWdnUi3wPB1T4XR...@mchsi.com...
>> On 6/16/10 4:21 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>
>>
>> So now you like MSNBC? How confused are you, Ubi?
>>
>> You epitomize the term "rightard".
>
>It does seem a bit odd that the people are using quotes/clips from MSNBC to
>'prove' how bad Obama is, while at the same time those same people claim
>that MSNBC is nothing more than a shill for Democrat propaganda. If nothing
>else, this proves that MSNBC doesn't do nearly as good/thorough a job
>shilling as FOX News does for the Republican propaganda.
>
It's not that odd to me as I see it as MSNBC leaning towards
supporting Obama but holding Obama responsible for how he is handling
this crisis. That just says that in this one case they really don't
like what he is doing, but generally agree with him. That's no
different from many voters agreeing with a candidate on many issues
and choosing to vote for that candidate while disagreeing (perhaps
strongly) on an issue or two.
The right tolerates little (if any) dissension or criticism...unless it's of
the other side of course.
The irony is that these liberals were Obama's most fanatical supporters
during the campaign, though he was even less specific then, running on a
platform of Hope & Change, while carefully avoiding taking a position on
anything of substance.
Now they act surprised that the man who had no ideas as Senator has no
ideas as President. They are shocked to learn that he is nothing but
hype. The sad thing is that many Americans recognized Obama for the
slick-talking con artist that he was, and were rudely dismissed as
"racists" by the same white liberals that are now turning on him like
pit bulls.
> I didn't mean to suggest that MSNBC was acting odd...just that the
> anti-MSNBC posters here are acting odd, claiming MSNBC is biased in
> favor of Obama, yet using MSNBC quotes/clips to 'prove' that Obama is
> failing.
MSNBC was biased in favor of Obama, or rather the talking heads who
regularly appear on MSNBC were biased in favor of what they thought
Obama was.
MSNBC, like Fox, has a small number of "commentators" who they rotate
through the daily schedule.
On MSNBC, most of them projected their own beliefs on the tabula rasa
that was Barack Obama, and now that he's turned out to be not a blank
slate but an empty vessel who will not be the authoritarian thug they
thought they were hyping, they're disappointed.
Maybe they think he's pliable enough that if they berate him soundly,
he'll still turn out to be useful to their cause.
I did never know so full a voice issue from so empty a heart:
but the saying is true—The empty vessel makes the greatest
sound.
Shakespeare, Henry V.
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com
> It's not that odd to me as I see it as MSNBC leaning towards
> supporting Obama but holding Obama responsible for how he is handling
> this crisis. That just says that in this one case they really don't
> like what he is doing, but generally agree with him. That's no
> different from many voters agreeing with a candidate on many issues
> and choosing to vote for that candidate while disagreeing (perhaps
> strongly) on an issue or two.
It sounds like MSNBC personalities are individuals capable of
independent thought who consider each issue on its own merits and
don't feel the need to form a protective fort and step in unison with
a political party. And they give their viewers the credit of being
capable of the same thing.
I wonder why a viewer of some *other* news network would consider this
newsworthy enough to be a thread...
A careful analysis reveals nothing odd about a Democrat-controlled MSNBC
turning on a Democrat president. The political science of Kremlinology
relies on understanding Party dynamics when trying to interpret Party
propaganda.
The Democrat Party may be corrupt and socialist, but it is not stupid
enough to follow the example of the Republicans by allowing an
ineffective and hated President to discredit their Party, and drag it
down with him.
The Democrat Political Machine had "fingered" Hillary Clinton as the
Party's presidential nominee, but Barack Obama wound up being a
renegade, and his cultlike popularity disrupted the normal backroom
nomination process.
Since the Democrats were desperate to win the presidency, they played
along and allowed Obama to win the nomination, Hoping that he would
effectively carry out their agenda.
Obama then embarrassed the Party by refusing to select Hillary as his
Co-President, railroading her into a dead-end job (no Secretary of State
has gone on to become President for over 150 years), effectively
neutralizing his only serious rival.
Still, the Party gave him over a year to prove himself, but as things
kept getting worse and as Obama's incompetence began to reflect badly on
the Party, the Party decided that he is going to be a one-term
president, that they are going to nip him in the bud before he tries to
pull a Hugo Chᅵvez.
That the Democrat Party and its various propaganda organs have begun
turning on Obama suggests he is in very serious trouble. Most likely
they are trying to set the stage for a challenge by Hillary in 2012.
Hillary will lay low for the rest of this year, then early next year she
will become increasingly visible and vocal and critical of Obama, with a
recurring theme along the lines of "Don't you regret not having voted
for ME instead?"
Actually, since long before that.
Must you really respond to someone with that ID and help them spread
their filth?
Indeed, the media has been nothing but left wing propaganda at least as far
back as Ben Franklin.
You mean like you just did?
> David wrote in response to Ian J. Ball:
>>
>> Must you really respond to someone with that ID and help them spread
>> their filth?
>
> You mean like you just did?
David regularly responds to the filth that Ian J. Ball spreads.
It's *value-added* "filth", thankuverymuch!!!
After I did what, snip out everything he said?
The Roman historians were left wing!
Now with bonus bugs!
So was that reporter (I think his name was Atouk) that used to do the
traffic migration reports on the cave wall.
and blah blah blah...
Why should anyone take someone seriously who calls him (or her) self by such
an infantile and moronic handle?
How about just the ID you complained of?
Better still...ignore the twit altogether instead of encouraging him.
Mel Brooks rose below vulgarity. Ian Ball is comfortably level with
filth.
I'm not a fan of either OB or Jimmy Who.
But I still remember the "Mayonese" speech.
OB still isn't as bad a POTUS as was Jimmy Who.
But he has only been in office about 1.5 years. He still has another 2.5
to go.
And then what? Mitt Romney and Sarah Palin drive up in a clown car?
Get real.
Ben and Me was a delightful story about a mouse that led our nation to
independence.
You're so silly. Matthews, Olbermann, Mandow & O'Donnell are more
left than any Fox personality on the right. Besides who wastes their
time watching any of that bullshit from any of them. They spin and
dance so much I get dizzy watching them so I don't anymore. The
people running this country are greedy mother fuckers in both parties
save for a few. But the worst will always be the liberal. The jews
started communism which transformed itself into socialism. Karl Marx,
Engels, Trotsky and even Lennin were all jews or had jewish blood in
them. And now look, they control everything and there is not a bloody
thing any of us can do about but sit back and enjoy the ride until
Jesus Christ makes his coming appearance and throw these bastards into
the pits of hell where they belong. And don't confuse Christ as a jew
like today. He wasn't and isn't. Look at hollyweird and nearly every
top actor or actress comes from jewish parentage. You'd be surprised
at the blond hair blue eyed jews that permeate hollyweird.