Nice to see the guys are getting work between SoA seasons.
>Ryan Hurst (Opie) on "Sons of Anarchy" played a badass biker on
>tonight's Law and Order: SVU.
Aww shucks, I thought you meant Ron Howard.
For those of us who grew up in the 1960s, Opie will always be Ron
Howard.
Dan Dassow
I didn't, but I thought he was going to say some actor on the show looked
like Opie/Ron Howard. "Opie" does invoke a very strong image, and I can
see the name being used in a generic way to describe someone like the
young Ronnie Howard.
Michael
For those of us who grew up in the 1980s too.
------
Right. To those who grew up in the 60s he is Opie, Andy Taylor's boy;
to those like me who was a teenager in the 1970s he is Richie
Cunningham. :-)
------>Hunter
"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
> On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 05:25:41 -0700 (PDT), Dan Dassow
> <dan_d...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mar 24, 6:59=A0am, Nancy R. <nranda...@comcast.nospam> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 01:07:42 -0400, info...@mindspring.com wrote:
>>>> Ryan Hurst (Opie) on "Sons of Anarchy" played a badass biker on
>>>> tonight's Law and Order: SVU.
>>>
>>> Aww shucks, I thought you meant Ron Howard.
>>
>> For those of us who grew up in the 1960s, Opie will always be Ron
>> Howard.
>>
>> Dan Dassow
> ------
> Right. To those who grew up in the 60s he is Opie, Andy Taylor's boy;
> to those like me who was a teenager in the 1970s he is Richie
> Cunningham. :-)
>
So if you grew up in the eighties, do people think of him as "film
director Ron Howard"? Or maybe specifically "director of Splash"?
Or, balding film directory (though I don't think he has it as bad
as Clint.
Michael
If you're growing up now, he's the dad of that gal who likes getting
naked in movies.
>>>>Ryan Hurst (Opie) on "Sons of Anarchy" played a badass biker on
>>>>tonight's Law and Order: SVU.
>>>Aww shucks, I thought you meant Ron Howard.
>>For those of us who grew up in the 1960s, Opie will always be Ron
>>Howard.
>Right. To those who grew up in the 60s he is Opie, Andy Taylor's boy;
>to those like me who was a teenager in the 1970s he is Richie
>Cunningham. :-)
Gee, that's odd. The Andy Griffith Show was rerun endlessly in the '70's
in my area, and still is today. You never saw it?
He's Opie because the name is funny. He once said it was the name of an
old dog of Griffith's, and he was teased endlessly for the character's name.
I think of her as "worst Gwen Stacy ever"
Never saw her nekkid.
--
"Please, I can't die, I've never kissed an Asian woman!"
Shego on "Shat My Dad Says"
"There's nothing quite like the power and the passion of Broadway music.
Musicals carry us to a different time and place, but in the end, they
also teach us a little bit of something about ourselves. In many ways,
the story of Broadway is also intertwined with the story of America.
Some of the greatest singers and songwriters Broadway has ever known
came to this country on a boat with nothing more than an idea in their
head and a song in their heart. And they succeeded the same way that so
many immigrants have succeeded through talent and hard work and sheer
determination. Over the years, musicals have also been at the forefront
of our social consciousness, challenging stereotypes, shaping our
opinions about race and religion, death and disease, power and politics.
But perhaps the most American part of this truly American art form is
its optimism. Broadway music calls us to see the best in ourselves and
in the world around us."-- President Obama
"Musicals blow the dust off your soul."-- Mel Brooks
If you were a teen in the '70s, then you *did* grow up in the '60s.
Like me.
Anyway, the question wasn't "Who is Ron Howard?", it was "Who is
Opie?"
I do think the progression from Opie to Richie to "acclaimed director"
to "Bryce's father" is very interesting, though. And if we're going
to mention "The Music Man," then we have to throw "American Graffiti"
in there, too.
>Hunter <buffh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>Dan Dassow <dan_d...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>On Mar 24, 6:59 am, Nancy R. <nranda...@comcast.nospam> wrote:
>>>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 01:07:42 -0400, info...@mindspring.com wrote:
>
>>>>>Ryan Hurst (Opie) on "Sons of Anarchy" played a badass biker on
>>>>>tonight's Law and Order: SVU.
>
>>>>Aww shucks, I thought you meant Ron Howard.
>
>>>For those of us who grew up in the 1960s, Opie will always be Ron
>>>Howard.
>
>>Right. To those who grew up in the 60s he is Opie, Andy Taylor's boy;
>>to those like me who was a teenager in the 1970s he is Richie
>>Cunningham. :-)
>
>Gee, that's odd. The Andy Griffith Show was rerun endlessly in the '70's
>in my area, and still is today. You never saw it?
---
I saw it a few times back in the 70's but didn't watch it much. It is
more likely that my generation knew him more as Richie Cunningham on
"Happy Days" because it was a new program and in color then, I and my
friends as say 13 year olds in 1976 certainly talked about it every
week about what Richie, Fonzie and especially the super cute Joanie
Cunningham (played by Erin Moran) the next day in school, not some
black and white show that was old even back then. That was cool, not
talking about "The Andy Griffith Show" or "Mayberry RFD" which we were
barely familiar with if knew at all at the time. We also knew him as
"Stevie" in "American Graffiti" those of us lucky enough to have seen
the movie). There was an entire product line behind "Happy Days",
especially with "Fonzie" including action figures and the like.
Today most 14 year olds-if they know about him at all-regard him as a
director and would vaguely know he was on a few tv shows once.
>
>He's Opie because the name is funny. He once said it was the name of an
>old dog of Griffith's, and he was teased endlessly for the character's name.
-----
I'm sure he was.
----
In the late 80s anyway since "Happy Days" lasted from 1974-1984 but
yes they would be familiar with "Splash" since it was about a sexy
girl and would attract teenagers.
I've always wondered why he practically dropped acting for directing
in the mid '80s. I don't know but I alwaysed guessed it was his
grossly premature balding that did it but it is only a guess.
>On Mar 25, 4:19=A0pm, Hunter <buffhun...@my-deja.com> (Hunter) wrote:
>> Right. To those who grew up in the 60s he is Opie, Andy Taylor's boy;
>> to those like me who was a teenager in the 1970s he is Richie
>> Cunningham. :-)
>
>If you were a teen in the '70s, then you *did* grow up in the '60s.
>Like me.
-----
I was born in 1963 so I was six years old in 1969 so I wasn't really
cognizant as to what was going on during that time. I do remember
hearing the news reports of Martin Luther kings and Robert F Kennedy
assassinations but not much. I remember a year later watching the moon
landing but I don't have any really truly detailed memories of the
adult shows I watched except some "Star Trek" when they were
originally broad casted. Also some "Batman" and "Green Hornet". But I
don't remember the "Andy Griffith Show" when they were originally
broad casted.
By 1969 "The Andy Griffith" Show was off the air at least in network
tv and I don't recall seeing it in syndication (not saying it wasn't I
am sure it was but I didn't watch). The next opportunity to see him
was in 1974 when "Happy Days" debuted and I was 11 years old and in
the first stirrings of lust for Erin Moran. :-) I was "in love" with
girls like Tatum O'Neal, Jodie Foster and "Holly" in "The Land of the
Lost" at the time. :-)
>
>Anyway, the question wasn't "Who is Ron Howard?", it was "Who is
>Opie?"
----
True but it evolved as to when we knew Ron Howard as and what he was
doing at the time. Thread Hijack. :-)
>
>I do think the progression from Opie to Richie to "acclaimed director"
>to "Bryce's father" is very interesting, though. And if we're going
>to mention "The Music Man," then we have to throw "American Graffiti"
>in there, too.
-----
I already did mention "American Graffiti" in another response as
another way my generation would have known Ron in the mid 1970s. I had
no idea he was in "The Music Man".
>>>>>>Ryan Hurst (Opie) on "Sons of Anarchy" played a badass biker on
>>>>>>tonight's Law and Order: SVU.
>>>>>Aww shucks, I thought you meant Ron Howard.
>>>>For those of us who grew up in the 1960s, Opie will always be Ron
>>>>Howard.
>>>Right. To those who grew up in the 60s he is Opie, Andy Taylor's boy;
>>>to those like me who was a teenager in the 1970s he is Richie
>>>Cunningham. :-)
>>So if you grew up in the eighties, do people think of him as "film
>>director Ron Howard"? Or maybe specifically "director of Splash"?
>>Or, balding film directory (though I don't think he has it as bad
>>as Clint.
>In the late 80s anyway since "Happy Days" lasted from 1974-1984 but
>yes they would be familiar with "Splash" since it was about a sexy
>girl and would attract teenagers.
>I've always wondered why he practically dropped acting for directing
>in the mid '80s. I don't know but I alwaysed guessed it was his
>grossly premature balding that did it but it is only a guess.
Ever since he was a kid, he wanted to direct. Every actor says this but
he made it happen for himself. He took advantage of the long period
during which he could still make a good living as an actor, when he could
still be cast as the perpetual teenage boy, to become a director.
With Splash, he proved he could direct a movie with mass appeal, although
he hadn't been in the regular cast of Happy Days for a couple of seasons.
He has little trouble getting big name stars for his movies, as he
directed all those Oscar-winning performances.
He's not my favorite actor nor director, but damn, he sure as hell
knows what he's doing.
It's more than just going bald. He chose to not remake himself as an actor
who could play adults. Instead, he coasted for years, replaying Steve
(American Graffiti). Obviously, Richie Cunningham was a younger version
of that character.
Quite frankly, I found him annoying in The Shootist, John Wayne's final
movie. He was channeling Johnny Crawford as Mark from The Rifleman. Happy
Days was mostly unwatchable after Season 3. I assume Ron Howard went along
with the way the show's comedy and format changed.
In lieu of remaking himself as an actor, he remade himself as a director.
Considering the number of blockbuster movies he directed, he did ok with
his choices. We'll never know if he could have become a better actor.
>>>>>>Ryan Hurst (Opie) on "Sons of Anarchy" played a badass biker on
>>>>>>tonight's Law and Order: SVU.
>>>>>Aww shucks, I thought you meant Ron Howard.
>>>>For those of us who grew up in the 1960s, Opie will always be Ron
>>>>Howard.
>>>Right. To those who grew up in the 60s he is Opie, Andy Taylor's boy;
>>>to those like me who was a teenager in the 1970s he is Richie
>>>Cunningham. :-)
>>Gee, that's odd. The Andy Griffith Show was rerun endlessly in the '70's
>>in my area, and still is today. You never saw it?
>I saw it a few times back in the 70's but didn't watch it much.
It was the better show, especially in its first 5 seasons, and before
Gomer and Goober because over-emphasized. Don Knotts was hysterical.
>It is more likely that my generation knew him more as Richie Cunningham on
>"Happy Days" because it was a new program and in color then, I and my
>friends as say 13 year olds in 1976 certainly talked about it every week
>about what Richie, Fonzie and especially the super cute Joanie Cunningham
>(played by Erin Moran) the next day in school, not some black and white
>show that was old even back then.
We're about the same age. While I didn't watch that show regularly, and
didn't even see early seasons till it went into second run, even I knew
that male chivalry required me to rescue the stunning Erin Moran from the
career-ending doom that was Scot Baio. The poor kid's career was in ruins,
and she ended up doing several stories on the Love Boat. For those of you
who don't remember the '80's, Love Boat and Fantasy Island were two shows
actors appeared on who were at the end of their careers, not the beginning,
as the two shows had a heavy emphasis on nostalgia. She's appeared in
almost nothing since the mid '80's, according to IMDb.
>That was cool, not talking about "The Andy Griffith Show" or "Mayberry
>RFD" which we were barely familiar with if knew at all at the time.
I got a kick out of listening to old-time radio as the first wave of
nostalgia was sweeping the country. No, I was never cool.
>We also knew him as "Stevie" in "American Graffiti" those of us lucky
>enough to have seen the movie). There was an entire product line behind
>"Happy Days", especially with "Fonzie" including action figures and
>the like.
Really? That's funny. I didn't remember that.
>Today most 14 year olds-if they know about him at all-regard him as a
>director and would vaguely know he was on a few tv shows once.
Honestly, as a kid, I don't recall paying much attention to directors,
and I suspect most teenagers who don't see themselves as future theater
majors wouldn't either. So if you mention Ron Howard to one, you know
what look you'll get.
Clint Howard had a more drastic physical change. He went from the
adorable Leon with the jelly sandwiches in Mayberry to .. well ..
let's just say *not* adorable.
And here I thought they got Ron Howard...
--
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>
>It's more than just going bald. He chose to not remake himself as an actor
>who could play adults. Instead, he coasted for years, replaying Steve
>(American Graffiti). Obviously, Richie Cunningham was a younger version
>of that character.
Ever see "More American Graffiti"? Obviously he reprises the Steve
character again, but now we see him and Cindy Williams six years after
the events in the first movie and all the traits of the original
character have morphed into those of a stressed-out insurance salesman
with kids and marital problems. He's not in the movie nearly enough,
but I thought his performance in it was pretty great and it showed
that he *could* have moved into more adult roles, had he apparently
wanted to. (The mustache he sports in the movie is somethin' else,
though.)
-lugnut
I knew the sequel was made but I've never seen it. I know it's not as
good as the original and that they couldn't afford to pay Richard Dreyfuss
to reprise his part, but does it have enough entertainment value that
it's worth watching?
Most of those 70s 'staches weren't so great anyway.
It was a film I wanted to see when it came out, I can't even remember if
I'd seen the original a that point.
I finally saw it a few years ago, when I bought it on DVD along with
"American Graffiti".
I didn't find it appealing at all. The original has the characters
interacting, the sequel has little stories spread years apart, and they
don't really interact. It's less about "what happened to the characters"
than about "let's tell the sixties using the same characters". It had
the usual cliches, going to Vietnam, going to Haight Ashbury, staying
straight, but it didn't look authenic (but then I can't think of a film
that really does it well). I haven't had a big desire to rewatch the film
since I got it, though I've rewatched many films in that same period.
Michael
Thank you.
Yeah, MAG has plenty of problems, but I think it's worth watching at
least once if you like the original. The constant jumping around -
through time, characters and even aspect ratios - can be a little
annoying, and the movie threatens to die altogether when they focus on
Candy Clark's character becoming a hippie-stripper in the Haight, but
I think enough of the other sequences work well enough to make up for
it, especially Toad in Vietnam.
-lugnut