"There's nothing quite like the power and the passion of Broadway music.
Musicals carry us to a different time and place, but in the end, they
also teach us a little bit of something about ourselves. It's one of the
few genres of music that can inspire the same passion in an
eight-year-old that it can in an 80-year-old. It transcends musical
tastes. In many ways, the story of Broadway is also intertwined with the
story of America. Some of the greatest singers and songwriters Broadway
has ever known came to this country on a boat with nothing more than an
idea in their head and a song in their heart. And they succeeded the
same way that so many immigrants have succeeded through talent and hard
work and sheer determination. Over the years, musicals have also been at
the forefront of our social consciousness, challenging stereotypes,
shaping our opinions about race and religion, death and disease, power
and politics. But perhaps the most American part of this truly American
art form is its optimism. Broadway music calls us to see the best in
ourselves and in the world around us; to believe that no matter how
hopeless things may seem, the nice guy can still get the girl, the hero
can still triumph over evil, and a brighter day can be waiting just
around the bend."-- President Obama
"Musicals blow the dust off your soul."-- Mel Brooks
More whining than usual.
On the other hand, I'm sure trotsky will be happy to have someone who
doesn't hand him his ass every two seconds.
Yeah, the newsgroup was invaded by Tholen, an evil force from a
dimension beyond our own that constantly asks everyone nagging questions
and is suspected in some circles of being a manifestation of Seamus.
Other than that, it's business as usual. About 25 % TV shows, 25% Seamus
complaining about missing TV shows, 25% people complaining about,
speculating about, and flaming Seamus, and 25% off-topic political
nonsense (dominated right now by wikileaks, natch), plus the usual
random smattering of homophobic BS and other off-topic crud from the
usual suspects.
Oh, and Mr. Hole is back, for what that's worth.
Incidentally, apparently Barb May is Seamus and even peachyashiepassion
is Seamus. Probably Adam H. Kerman is Seamus -- he sure argues like him
-- not to mention Ubiquitous.
You know what? Sometimes I wonder if this whole newsgroup is Seamus.
Maybe 99% of the traffic is just Seamus's various socks arguing among
themselves and making various comments. If so, it will have to go down
in history as the world's most magnificent piece of Usenet performance
art, wouldn't you say?
Heck, maybe I'm Seamus. You never know. :)
> So-- did you all miss me?
Welcome back.
> Anything interesting happen while I was gone?
Half a season of TV. No major new hit shows for the networks, though the
best new show on network TV was Detroit 1-8-7. The biggest cable hit was
Walking Dead, a show about zombies based upon a comic book...so, cable isn't
coming up with much of anything, either. On the other hand, 'Men of A
Certain Age' is back, so you can tune in and see what the young folks are up
to these days. ;-)
> "There's nothing quite like the power and the passion of Broadway music.
> Musicals carry us to a different time and place, but in the end, they
> also teach us a little bit of something about ourselves. It's one of the
> few genres of music that can inspire the same passion in an
> eight-year-old that it can in an 80-year-old.
People of all ages cringe?
> "Musicals blow
>."-- Mel Brooks
Glee is still doing well on TV, though...and Tangled, Burlesque, and Country
Strong are working to make the theater a musical place.
It took the folks at RATM to let us know you were okay, busy on
Facebook. Beyond that, the group figured it was your prerogative. I
just hoped anyone's bit of nastiness didn't finally get to you.
For some reason of late, a lot of stuff has been crossposted to an OS/
2 forum, bringing in an automated troll to go along with Seamus and
the rest. I brought up the idea of a moderated group that would simply
exclude crossposting to non-TV groups, which some people liked, but
Kerman didn't.
I don't know what other shows you were following, but Desperate
Housewives seems interesting for fans this season with the return of
Mark Moses. As the local insider, I've been running a Detroit 187
thread.
And after the scare with the Brittany episode of Glee, they've had
quite a good run of getting more Broadway tunes onto the show. Some
efforts, like A Chorus Line's "Sing!" and the Streisand / Garland
mashup on "Duets" were brilliant. Others, like "Make 'Em Laugh" from
Singing in the Rain, were cringing imitations.
>"Steve Newport" <Newpor...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
>> So-- did you all miss me?
>Welcome back.
Was the Winter solstice not a depressing enough prospect already?
At least he didn't change his name this time.
> Thanatos: once an asshole....
He seems to be more right wing disgruntled than ever before in recent weeks.
That reminds me. Make sure to set an alarm for 3:17am Eastern time (or two
hours before that if you want to catch the whole process) so you can catch
the full lunar eclipse tonight. Spectacularly weird event like a lunar
eclipse and the Winter Solstace at the same time must play havoc on
warewolves.
> Incidentally, apparently Barb May is Seamus and even peachyashiepassion
> is Seamus. Probably Adam H. Kerman is Seamus -- he sure argues like him
> -- not to mention Ubiquitous.
No, Peachie, I know from alt.tv.heroes. Adam just gets cranky at
people who get on his bad side. Barb has been able to take criticism
and compliments, which is a Seamus inability. I just wish I knew why
her posts, like your post, get crossposted to OS/2.
> You know what? Sometimes I wonder if this whole newsgroup is Seamus.
> Maybe 99% of the traffic is just Seamus's various socks arguing among
> themselves and making various comments. If so, it will have to go down
> in history as the world's most magnificent piece of Usenet performance
> art, wouldn't you say?
It would. But my theory is that it was started by programmers trying
to perfect AI, but at least the required processing power should hold
off the final development of Skynet.
Hey Steve, welcome back.
Did you travel or just take a vacation from Usenet?
Tom
> I've missed a number of GLEE episodes, and really don't care anymore.
You spout off about how great Broadway showtunes are, then avoid watching
the only primetime show that regularly (or even rarely) features them?
Cause someone (Seamus?) crossposts them. Then comes on as tholen to
complain about the crossposting...
Man, I'm sorry to hear that. Providing elder-care is stressful on a
good day. I'll keep your family in my prayers.
Good luck.
Tom
10> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv,comp.os.os2.advocacy
10> Yeah, the newsgroup was invaded by Tholen, an evil force from a
10> dimension beyond our own that constantly asks everyone nagging
questions
10> and is suspected in some circles of being a manifestation of
Seamus.
What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to
do with OS/2, Eater? Rather ironic, coming from someone who just
"invaded" comp.os.os2.advocacy with a thread that isn't relevant
there.
10> Other than that, it's business as usual. About 25 % TV shows, 25%
Seamus
10> complaining about missing TV shows, 25% people complaining about,
10> speculating about, and flaming Seamus, and 25% off-topic
political
10> nonsense (dominated right now by wikileaks, natch), plus the
usual
10> random smattering of homophobic BS and other off-topic crud from
the
10> usual suspects.
What does that have to do with OS/2, Eater?
10> Oh, and Mr. Hole is back, for what that's worth.
What does that have to do with OS/2, Eater?
10> Incidentally, apparently Barb May is Seamus and even
peachyashiepassion
10> is Seamus. Probably Adam H. Kerman is Seamus -- he sure argues
like him
10> -- not to mention Ubiquitous.
What does that have to do with OS/2, Eater?
10> You know what? Sometimes I wonder if this whole newsgroup is
Seamus.
10> Maybe 99% of the traffic is just Seamus's various socks arguing
among
10> themselves and making various comments. If so, it will have to go
down
10> in history as the world's most magnificent piece of Usenet
performance
10> art, wouldn't you say?
What does that have to do with OS/2, Eater?
10> Heck, maybe I'm Seamus. You never know. :)
Well, you are using the same NNTP posting host as Tim Harrison,
Eater.
Yeah, that explains why you're too afraid to respond to me directly.
What would Usenet be without the false declarations of victory? LOL!
I don't know--round up the usual suspects!
Wouldn't you have liked to have been a fly on the wall one of the
umpteen times his mother called him that?
And Ronnie Hateman?
>So-- did you all miss me? Anything interesting happen while I was gone?
Who are you?
**
Captain Infinity
..."Confusion is always the most honest response." -- Marty Indik
> Cause someone (Seamus?) crossposts them. Then comes on as tholen to
> complain about the crossposting...
If somebody replies to a crossposted reply and keeps the groups,
that's what happens, but I don't know, is someone sporging to add the
crossposting? Because who would?
If your Internet access lets Hulu be an option, wait until you have
the time to catch up and use the Hulu Plus Free Week preview to catch
up on the entire second season. I wonder what you would have said
about the Gwyneth Paltrow episode.
> What does that have to do with OS/2, Eater?
>
> 10> Heck, maybe I'm Seamus. You never know. :)
>
> Well, you are using the same NNTP posting host as Tim Harrison,
> Eater.
Someone's having fun with $trings....
>So-- did you all miss me? Anything interesting happen while I was gone?
>
Could you do a couple of things for us? One , add a proper signature
delimiter between your message and your signature so it gets handled
properly by news readers. Two, how about using a signature that's not
quite so long. It makes no sense to have a one line post with a 21
line signature.
Otherwise... welcome back
Oh I know, replying to xposts keep it going, but most people don't
notice. I try to watch out for it, but don't always catch it. And yeah,
I think one of Seamus's many sockpuppets adds them on purpose.
> So-- did you all miss me? Anything interesting happen while I was gone?
>
> "There's nothing quite like the power and the passion of Broadway music.
> Musicals carry us to a different time and place, but in the end, they
> also teach us a little bit of something about ourselves. It's one of the
> few genres of music that can inspire the same passion in an
> eight-year-old that it can in an 80-year-old.
Not possible. Drop-offs in the production of certain hormones and the drop
in abiliity to generate adrenaline as easily in later years means no...You
can still appreciate it, but you can't get as excited at 60 as you could at
25.
>If somebody replies to a crossposted reply and keeps the groups,
>that's what happens, but I don't know, is someone sporging to add the
>crossposting? Because who would?
Sporge is the random insertion of dictionary words in sentence format, an
adaptation in later versions of Hipcrime's NewsAgent spam engine to avoid
detection by existing Usenet cancelbots that operated on spam-detection
thresholds.
seamus is no Hipclone and hasn't been sporging, just for whatever reason
has a hatred for the users of the tv newsgroups and the OS/2 newsgroup
using the tholen sock.
I see that there continues to be a significant flux of off-topic traffic
into rec.arts.tv.
Tsk, tsk, tsk!
> Sporge is the random insertion of dictionary words in sentence format, an
> adaptation in later versions of Hipcrime's NewsAgent spam engine to avoid
> detection by existing Usenet cancelbots that operated on spam-detection
> thresholds.
> seamus is no Hipclone and hasn't been sporging, just for whatever reason
> has a hatred for the users of the tv newsgroups and the OS/2 newsgroup
> using the tholen sock.
This is what I got from Wikipedia:
Sporgery is the disruptive act of posting a flood of articles to a
Usenet newsgroup, with the article headers falsified so that they
appear to have been posted by others. The word is a portmanteau of
spam and forgery...-- it involves falsifying objectionable posts so
they appear to come from newsgroup regulars.
Because of the Google Groups archive, I know of at least one instance
of my own address having been forged, and it seems that the point of
adding OS/2 is to solicit a reply from Tholen, something a regular
would not want to do. Maybe the group is being added to the followups
to implicate people further down the line? Or the message somehow gets
the OS/2 appended to it somehow?
> SN: I'm liking Brittany more and more. Also the new coach. I like the
> actress who plays Moses' wife.
I meant the actual Brittany Spears. Heather Morris' character has
always stolen the show with her one-liners. Emily Bergl was great in
Men in Trees, and I'm glad to see her on Wisteria Lane.
"The Substitute" and "Furt" are available on regular Hulu right now.
Anything before Halloween, like "The Rocky Horror Glee Show", needs
Hulu Plus.
Carol Burnett performed WAIT SPOILERS
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"Ohio" from Wonderful Town, which was wonderfully obscure, but was
not received well within the group. Too obligatory.
>>Sporge is the random insertion of dictionary words in sentence format, an
>>adaptation in later versions of Hipcrime's NewsAgent spam engine to avoid
>>detection by existing Usenet cancelbots that operated on spam-detection
>>thresholds.
>>seamus is no Hipclone and hasn't been sporging, just for whatever reason
>>has a hatred for the users of the tv newsgroups and the OS/2 newsgroup
>>using the tholen sock.
>This is what I got from Wikipedia:
>Sporgery is the disruptive act of posting a flood of articles to a
>Usenet newsgroup, with the article headers falsified so that they
>appear to have been posted by others. The word is a portmanteau of
>spam and forgery...-- it involves falsifying objectionable posts so
>they appear to come from newsgroup regulars.
Wikipedia sure does love "portmanteu".
That isn't an adequate definition. I never heard the term till Hipcrime
started to attempt to counter spam countermeasures. It wasn't so much
the forgeries, which he was already doing, it was the techniques he
was using to make it appear that identical articles weren't identical.
>Because of the Google Groups archive, I know of at least one instance
>of my own address having been forged,
I know of at least 10 million instances of forgeries of myself. There was
a small group of us whose email addresses were used for nearly all of
the spam attacks. It went on for months starting in fall of 2001.
>and it seems that the point of adding OS/2 is to solicit a reply from
>Tholen, something a regular would not want to do. Maybe the group
>is being added to the followups to implicate people further down the
>line? Or the message somehow gets the OS/2 appended to it somehow?
tholen is just another seamus sock. tholen has never posted on topic
to the OS/2 group. seamus simply added the OS/2 group to the crosspost
in some of his followups, so further followups to seamus were crossposted.
I didn't notice it added via the Followup-To header.
"Steve Newport" wrote in message
news:24154-4D1...@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net...
Oh, Captain-- you know you missed me.
I missed the concise way you delete stuff. Often during a long discussion or
argument I only read what you have to say because it takes too long to wade
through the add ons. I mostly agree with you anyway but not always.
The new coach is a vast character improvement of the old one. If you still
want to watch the old coach, though, he is now playing an auto mechanic on
Men of a Certain Age.
Is that your medical opinion? What are your credentials?
And to think Mike Pubie claims you "format your posts improperly".
He's just as shitty as the rest of his sockpuppets.
Oooh, I'll bet you're glad your boyfriend and most frequent John is
back, hooker :)
You already sucked his cock under your "trotsky" pseudonym. Pay
attention, idiot.
>
> Did you travel or just take a vacation from Usenet?
>
> Tom
It's not my specific area. Just an observation. It's been linked to the
inevitable decline in the ability of sports players to play well, as
opposed to the often cited general physical decline. The anecdotal tales
of people achieving Herculian feats of stength in high-stress situations
lends some credence to the idea adrenaline and hormone production can
have huge results. You can technically de-age people using specifically
administered doses of adrenaline and hormones, with the side-effects
being cancer of course. If they can get a handle on the negative side
efects, it's possible this therapy will reduce health care costs of
seniors by enormous amounts.
You need a hobby,
feloniousdouchebagfredomarenonotsureofmysexualpreference, other than
being a pedophile, that is.
Tom
Rich will never understand that... he has no soul.
Tom
What is your specific area, then?
Did you see how soon after I posted my response that he posted his?
That's just creepy.
No, but I bet he turns around every time someone says "cracker".
That would make a great response to his posts: "The usual delusional."
Why are you responding to yourself, hooker? Still lonely, knowing
that you'll be spending another Christmas alone? :)
Ooooh, looks like you're giving your boyfriend extra hummers today,
huh? :)
And it looks like you're doing the same for yourself...
Keep sucking, you pathetic piece of shit.
Tom
Aw, looks like trotsky's getting upset over being reminded of what a
rancid usenet whore she is :)
>
> Tom
Make up your mind, numb nuts... am I trotsky or Greg?
BTW, are your lips chapped yet from sucking your own dick?
Tom
Just the very use of that "word" is enough to gain entrance to my killfile.
Cue the whining about folks who declare that they choose to ignore
idiots...as if paying attention to fools and morons is a positive thing.
With sandpaper.
It doesn't appear as if the 3 months away or the trying personal times have
matured you any. Couldn't you just tune out the moron right wingers and
save yourself (and the newsgroup) a hundred posts a day of meaningless back
and forth grade school putdowns?
Hey, at least freddie titmouse has Ronnie Hateman pulling for him!
On 20/12/2010 6:03 PM, tho...@antispam.ham wrote:
> 10> Heck, maybe I'm Seamus. You never know. :)
>
> Well, you are using the same NNTP posting host as Tim Harrison,
> Eater.
My ISP has millions of subscribers and a dynamic IP pool. It's not very
surprising that at least 1 other person you know might happen to be one
of its subscribers too.
13> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv,comp.os.os2.advocacy
13> I wrote:
13> My ISP has millions of subscribers and a dynamic IP pool. It's not
13> very surprising that at least 1 other person you know might happen
13> to be one of its subscribers too.
What does your response to yourself have to do with OS/2, Eater?
> Back in time to say Merry Christmas!!!
Merry Christmas to you as well...and to everyone else reading this thread.
That would be a wonderful change for the new year, wouldn't it? [If
everyone would just ignore them.]
Welcome back, Steve... :)
bj
"There's nothing quite like the power and the passion of Broadway music.
Musicals carry us to a different time and place, but in the end, they
also teach us a little bit of something about ourselves. In many ways,
the story of Broadway is also intertwined with the story of America.
Some of the greatest singers and songwriters Broadway has ever known
came to this country on a boat with nothing more than an idea in their
head and a song in their heart. And they succeeded the same way that so
many immigrants have succeeded through talent and hard work and sheer
determination. Over the years, musicals have also been at the forefront
of our social consciousness, challenging stereotypes, shaping our
opinions about race and religion, death and disease, power and politics.
But perhaps the most American part of this truly American art form is
its optimism. Broadway music calls us to see the best in ourselves and
in the world around us."-- President Obama