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david.e...@almac.co.uk
Hello World!
Are there any Julian May fans reading? Of course there are,
silly question really. Can anyone help me with the following:
1. Does anyone have the paperback release dates for the
Millieu books?
2. Can someone point me in the direction of a short story
collection containing "Dune Roller"?
3. Does anyone want to discuss the good lady's work with me?
Torc to you later,
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Michael Huber
>Hello World!
> Are there any Julian May fans reading? Of course there are,
> silly question really. Can anyone help me with the following:
> 1. Does anyone have the paperback release dates for the
> Millieu books?
Many Colored Land: 1983,1988
The Golden Torc: 1983,1989
The Nonborn King: 1984,1988
The Adversary: 1985,1989
The Surveillance: 1988
The Metaconcert: 1989
The Intervention hardcover: 1987 h
All the above taken from my books that I own.
> 2. Can someone point me in the direction of a short story
> collection containing "Dune Roller"?
Sorry I'm unable to help there...
> 3. Does anyone want to discuss the good lady's work with me?
Sure..I've read almost all of it including her new Trillium
stuff...
>Torc to you later,
Cute.
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"The Metaconcert" or is it something more?
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: In article <1acp7r...@seven-up.East.Sun.COM>, cbru...@vermont.East.Sun.COM (Chuck Brunson - Sun BOS Corporate Software Engineering) writes:
: > Is "Intervention" just a combination of "The Surveillance" and
: > "The Metaconcert" or is it something more?
: "Intervention" was the single hardcover version of the two paperbacks.
"Intervention" was published as a paperback in Australia also.
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Aaron Wigley
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And ditto for the UK.
I'm two thirds of the way through reading it now as it happens, just a
short way into Part III "The Intervention". Although it was published
here in paperback in 1988 (a year after the hardcover publication) I
didn't come across it until March of this year (mine is a copy of the
fifth printing). It then spent more than six months queued up on my
shelf of books waiting to be read.
So far I'm finding it rather more of a "wish fulfilment" story than I
remeber the four "Saga of the Exiles" books being, but it's still
proving enjoyable for all that. I hadn't guessed who the family ghost
was, but having recently read the answer on the net I can see that it
fits pretty well.
I guess I'll have to wait quite a while yet for "Jack the Bodiless" as
it's only recently appeared over here in hardcover...
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Arrowsmith
>In article <1acp7r...@seven-up.East.Sun.COM>, cbru...@vermont.East.Sun.COM (Chuck Brunson - Sun BOS Corporate Software Engineering) writes:
>> "The Metaconcert" or is it something more?
>
>make more money splitting it in two.
>
I would guess the later, as it only ever appeared over here as
"Intervention" -- took me ages to work out why Americans were talking
about "Surveillance" and "Metaconcert" as separate books (-8
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>I guess I'll have to wait quite a while yet for "Jack the Bodiless" as
>it's only recently appeared over here in hardcover...
>
>Steve Fagg ( S.L....@bnr.co.uk +44-279-402437 )
>BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK
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I did buy _Jack_the_Bodiless_ in hardcover and felt it was
worth the $$$ - absolutely the BEST work Ms. May has done to date
viz. the Milieu/Metapsychic.
By the way, my copy of _Intervention_ (hardcover) had a printing
errors where pages 187-234 were inserted twice and I'm missing
about 40 pages between 234 and 294 - anyone else seen this? I
may have to get the two paperbacks separately to piece together
a few things I'm unclear about!!
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Damian Mehers
Talking about Julian May, does anyone have any clues as to the identity
of 'Fury' from JTB?
Hows about Felice/Cullaket, with a dash of Victor ...
Damian
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I bought the book as a hardback after looking at a display of them for
several months. I guess I finally couldn't wait. :-)
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Aaron Wigley [Wigs]
[ regarding "Intervention" ]
: So far I'm finding it rather more of a "wish fulfilment" story than I
: remeber the four "Saga of the Exiles" books being, but it's still
: proving enjoyable for all that.
Yeah, "Intervention" is simply a lead up to the Three books of the
Rebellion itself, not that I hold that against it :-)
: I guess I'll have to wait quite a while yet for "Jack the Bodiless" as
: it's only recently appeared over here in hardcover...
Same here. I've had my eye continually on the bookshop shelves over here,
and every few weeks asking the shop assistant when it is due. Each time
I asked the due date shifted forward a month or so. Originally it was
due around last Christmas time or so, but I've heard a rumor that the
Australian printing was swallowed up by the Americans, when the demand
for it there hit the roof.
: Steve Fagg ( S.L....@bnr.co.uk +44-279-402437 )
Aaron Wigley [Wigs]
: Talking about Julian May, does anyone have any clues as to the identity
: of 'Fury' from JTB?
(This thread came up a few months ago, before JtB had been released in
Australia, so I partially avoided it then because of spoilers).
: Hows about Felice/Cullaket, with a dash of Victor ...
(I haven't got my books with me, and I have only had the chance to
read JtB once so far, but here goes)..
Most definitely Felice. In Jtb, Fury refers to MacGregor as the
Great Enemy, this would have resulted from the encounters between
Felice and Aiken Drum in the Pliocene. Fury then changes the Enemy to
the Remillards for the time being. There are a few other hints in JtB,
such as Atoning Unifex/Family Ghost/Marc's familiarity with it
(at the passing of Victor, when the Family Ghost saves Rogi from Fury).
As for Victor, I possibly favor the idea Fury influenced Victor, and
not the other way around. Victor could have learned the subsumption
trick (the draining) from Fury - it's identical to what Hydra is now
using.
: Damian
The Wigs of Oz,
Still going through the "Pliocene Companion", looking for clues for Fury :).
Aaron Wigley
Aaron Wigley [Wigs]
Aaron Wigley [Wigs] (ins...@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au) wrote:
: Damian Mehers (meh...@rutile.enet.dec.com) wrote:
: : Talking about Julian May, does anyone have any clues as to the identity
: : of 'Fury' from JTB?
:
Evidence for Marc being the Family Ghost:
very last page of "Intervention", Rogi calls the Ghost by the
name of Marc, after some small talk.
: Most definitely Felice. In Jtb, Fury refers to MacGregor as the
: Great Enemy, this would have resulted from the encounters between
: Felice and Aiken Drum in the Pliocene.
Evidence for Felice/Culliket being Fury:
Prologue One, from "The Adversary", when Elizabeth, Minanonn,
Dionket and Creyn assisted at the Rio Genil:
`Deep under thousands of tons of steaming rock at a shallow ford
in the Rio Genil, a tiny thing like a ruby cylinder burned whitely at
the core . . .
"I've found Felice." Elizabeth opened her eyes, transmitted the
image to Minanonn. "And Cull, too."
Elizabeth! they live?
You might call it that. Or suspension. Or limbo.
Such a state beyond understanding.
Not myunderstanding! I have been. [Fiery cocoon image.]
Tana--! You humans. But Cull . . .
. . . is there of his freechoice. Lifeclinging.
Suffering Withoutend!
Alive nonetheless in pseudoUnity.
`
Felice survived, and was placed inside the Room without Doors,
from which not even Marc could touch her. In effect, Felice/Culliket became
the first Lylmik.
: As for Victor, I possibly favor the idea Fury influenced Victor, and
: not the other way around. Victor could have learned the subsumption
: trick (the draining) from Fury - it's identical to what Hydra is now
: using.
Another reference I found in "Intervention". Could Kieran O'Connor's
"Black Mother" be Fury? From page 623 of the paperback Intervention:
"Forgive me Black Mother soon I will return. ..."
and then over the page:
" .. It should have been the daughter to inherit the night,
not the daughter's daughter. But Kali would have her jest . . . O
Mother of Power, forgive her as you forgive me.
She would be coming, even though he had forbidden it, eager
for the final trachery. So be it. Devouring Mother I would give her
to you myself if I could. But I dare not waste the least spark of
my dwindling powers. Please understand. Dam dham nam tam --
"
: : Damian
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Rebecca Drayer
ins...@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Aaron Wigley [Wigs]) writes:
>Evidence for Felice/Culliket being Fury:
> Felice survived, and was placed inside the Room without Doors,
>from which not even Marc could touch her. In effect, Felice/Culliket became
>the first Lylmik.
>
before the Big Bang. (I think it says this in the Pliocene Companion.) Maybe
it's possible for them to become a Lylmik (as Marc apparently did), but they
couldn't have been the first. (Besides, the Lylmik like humans. I don't think
Felice does. :-))
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Aaron Wigley [Wigs]
: In article <1992Oct4.1...@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
: ins...@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Aaron Wigley [Wigs]) writes:
: >Evidence for Felice/Culliket being Fury:
: > Felice survived, and was placed inside the Room without Doors,
: >from which not even Marc could touch her. In effect, Felice/Culliket became
: >the first Lylmik.
: How do you figure? I thought that the Lylmik were left over from the
: universe before the Big Bang. (I think it says this in the Pliocene
: Companion.) Maybe it's possible for them to become a Lylmik (as Marc
: apparently did), but they couldn't have been the first.
No. In the Pliocene Saga, the Milieu are considered thus:
(extract taken from page 72 of the 'Pliocene Companion')
"Lylmik (LIL-mik) pl. & sing., the oldest and least numerous race of
the Galactic Milieu, mysterious in their actions as well as their origns.
Krondak legends say that the Lylmik date from the previous universe -
i.e. from before the Big Bang, which they somehow managed to survive.
Poltroyan legends say that the Lylmik rehabilitated their dying sun, a
red giant, turning it into a G3 by a metapsychic infusion of fresh
hydrogen, transmuted from an unknown energy source. The poetical Gi
believe that the Lylmik are pseudocorporeal messengers of the Cosmic All.
The bumptious Simbiari don't know what to make of the Lylmik, but distrust
them because they show an obvious bias toward humanity, having been the
prime movers of the Intervention. Humans suspect that the Lylmik - whose
forms are only partially visible to the naked eye and the deep-seeing eye
- are extragalactic in origin and almost entirely "mental" in nature. The
Lylmik themselves absent-mindedly declare that they don't know where they
came from or what their true nature might be - and why should the other
races be concerned when the Lylmik themselves are not? Humans are bemused
by all this, but nevertheless esteem the Lylmik above all other coadunate
races because it is obvious that the mysterious entities love humanity and
are determined to shepherd our metapsychic evolution until we fulfill our
immense potential. The human-Lylmik connection is detailed in the Milieu
Trilogy. "
Remember also, that Marc and Elisabeth d-jumped at the end of 'The
Adversary' to the Duat homeworlds. I'll will lay bets that Marc and
Elisabeth then managed to get the 'Mental Man' idea implemented in the
Tanu race.
: (Besides, the Lylmik like humans. I don't think Felice does. :-))
What I was suggesting was that Felice/Culliket became like the Lylmik,
not actually one of them, just like Jack did in JtB when his room in the
hospital caught fire.
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Wolffan
(in article<342e5770-34be-497f...@googlegroups.com>):
Lead No-Prize for zombifying the oldest necrothread so far this year! 1992! A
new record! Tenno heika banzai! Banzai!
Kevrob
seeing the subject line was, "Oh, no! Not another death in the
worlds of SF/F and fandom?" Sure enough, May left us back in October.
Extra style points and a Buck Rogers Solar Scout cluster for
posting the reviving post "en espanol," in an English-language
group.
Kevin R
* Wiki says Mat wrote some continuities for the Buck comic
strip.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_May
Butch Malahide
> 2. Can someone point me in the direction of a short story
> collection containing "Dune Roller"?
collection, and it's not any of the ones listed in the ISFDB?
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?56099
Ahasuerus
wrote:
posted.
Michael F. Stemper
to 1991? Possibly printed on the back of a package of Starbix?
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> On 2018-02-21 07:15, Ahasuerus wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 12:16:41 AM UTC-5, Butch Malahide
> > wrote:
> >> On Thursday, September 24, 1992 at 3:57:19 PM UTC-5, david.e wrote:
> >>
> >>> 2. Can someone point me in the direction of a short story
> >>> collection containing "Dune Roller"?
> >>
> >> Not sure I understand the question. You are looking for a specific
> >> collection, and it's not any of the ones listed in the ISFDB?
> >>
> >> http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?56099
> >
> > I am afraid the ISFDB didn't exist when the question was originally
> > posted.
>
> C'mon, this is science fiction. Why don't you just send the ISFDB back
> to 1991? Possibly printed on the back of a package of Starbix?
Michael F. Stemper
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