by albert einstein

[The Starmaker]

https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/

[Hägar]

"The Starmaker" wrote in message news:598C98...@ix.netcom.com...

https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/


*** This piece of trash was written not by Einstein, but by
a socialist political hack, of the same type than those who
penned Obama's two books.

Einstein was a scientist and scientists just don't write or
orate in the lingo of the socialist ruling class. Obama, on
the other hand, is the epitome of socialism/communism
and has the flowery rhetoric of those carpet baggers.

Einstein fled to Switzerland to escape the encroaching threat
od Hitler's "National Socialism" (NAZI) party and from there
to the US where he stayed for the rest of his life.
You, Starmaker, are a clueless hack.

[The Starmaker]

https://monthlyreview.org/product/mr-001-01-1949-05/


I appologize if it wasn't written by Albert Einstein...

can you point to one link that claims that it *wasn't* written by Albert Einstein???

[Hägar]

"The Starmaker" wrote in message news:598CA9...@ix.netcom.com...

*** I'm simply saying why would a man, who is Jewish and had
to relocate twice (Switzerland and the US) to escape the scourge
of Hitler's Socialist regime, pen a letter in its praise ???
Only a screwball like you could believe that.

[The Starmaker]

Sorry, I'm not into politics...

if you wondering what Einstein's politics are:


Einstein was in favour of socialism and in opposition to capitalism, as illustrated by the following quote:
"I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
Political views of Albert Einstein - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Albert_Einstein

https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&q=albert+einstein+politics&oq=albert+einstein+politics&gs_l=psy-ab.12...769.769.0.1985.2.1.0.0.0.0.490.490.4-1.1.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..1.0.0.0.CEwxLUS4RLo

[Hägar]

"The Starmaker" wrote in message news:598D15...@ix.netcom.com...

I bet you also believe that Hillary won and that Trump "stole" the election.
Get a grip, dufus ...

[The Starmaker]

Trump is President? I thought FoxNews won the election and CNN lost the presidency...


I cannot tell which cable channel is running the country....


I'm not into politics, I didn't vote for HBO.


What are those two little dots above the letter ä?
Hägar


Is that your cable channels attennas? You should try PointedEars attennas, you get all the channels! Vulcan TV...

[The Starmaker]

But, if you want to talk about Albert Einstein politics, they both had the same politics, to take over the Vorld!


Albert Einstein called on governments to proceed further by taking gradual steps towards forming an effectual federal world government.



“Mankind’s desire for peace can be realized only by the creation of a world government. --Albert Einstein


Nazi Germany
The ruling Nazi Party of 1933–1945 Germany envisaged the ultimate establishment of a world government under the complete hegemony of the Third Reich.


H. G. Wells
The New Republic must ultimately become a "World-State"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_government



https://www.youtube.com/v/FN7r0Rr1Qyc&autoplay=1


The World Belongs To Me! -- The Starmaker



get off my planet.

[Hägar]

"The Starmaker" wrote in message news:598DDE...@ix.netcom.com...

Hägar wrote:
>
> "The Starmaker" wrote in message news:598D15...@ix.netcom.com...
>
> I bet you also believe that Hillary won and that Trump "stole" the
> election.
> Get a grip, dufus ...



Trump is President? I thought FoxNews won the election and CNN lost the
presidency...


I cannot tell which cable channel is running the country....


I'm not into politics, I didn't vote for HBO.


What are those two little dots above the letter ä?
Hägar

>>> snip <<<

*** ever hear of an "Umlaut" ??? if not ... Google it or go
back to school.

[The Starmaker]

Hägar wrote:
>
> "The Starmaker" wrote in message news:598DDE...@ix.netcom.com...
>
> Hägar wrote:
> >
> > "The Starmaker" wrote in message news:598D15...@ix.netcom.com...
> >
> > I bet you also believe that Hillary won and that Trump "stole" the
> > election.
> > Get a grip, dufus ...
>
> Trump is President? I thought FoxNews won the election and CNN lost the
> presidency...
>
> I cannot tell which cable channel is running the country....
>
> I'm not into politics, I didn't vote for HBO.
>
> What are those two little dots above the letter ä?
> Hägar
>
> >>> snip <<<
>
> *** ever hear of an "Umlaut" ??? if not ... Google it or go
> back to school.

Sorry, I went to skool in the United States, not Germany.



https://www.thegermanz.com/how-germans-feel-umlauts-aou/



Ü, or ü, is a character that typically represents a close front rounded vowel [y].
It is classified as ... A glyph, U with umlaut, appears in the German alphabet.



So, how are those German girls...Betty Boop, what a dish! Betty Gable, nice gams...

[Hägar]

"The Starmaker" wrote in message news:598E06...@ix.netcom.com...

Hägar wrote:
>
> "The Starmaker" wrote in message news:598DDE...@ix.netcom.com...
>
> Hägar wrote:
> >
> > "The Starmaker" wrote in message news:598D15...@ix.netcom.com...
> >
> > I bet you also believe that Hillary won and that Trump "stole" the
> > election.
> > Get a grip, dufus ...
>
> Trump is President? I thought FoxNews won the election and CNN lost the
> presidency...
>
> I cannot tell which cable channel is running the country....
>
> I'm not into politics, I didn't vote for HBO.
>
> What are those two little dots above the letter ä?
> Hägar
>
> >>> snip <<<
>
> *** ever hear of an "Umlaut" ??? if not ... Google it or go
> back to school.



Sorry, I went to skool in the United States, not Germany.

>>> snip <<<


*** Well, some of us take advantage of furthering our education
by enrolling in foreign language studies. But I can see your dilemma ...
a brain is one of the minimum requirements.

[hanson]

"The Starmaker" <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> "Hägar" <hs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> > > "The Starmaker" wrote:
>> > > https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/

>> > >
>> > Hägar wrote:
>> > > *** This piece of trash was written not by Einstein, but by
>> > > a socialist political hack, of the same type than those who
>> > > penned Obama's two books.
>> > >
>> > > Einstein was a scientist and scientists just don't write or
>> > > orate in the lingo of the socialist ruling class. Obama, on
>> > > the other hand, is the epitome of socialism/communism
>> > > and has the flowery rhetoric of those carpet baggers.
>> > >
>> > > Einstein fled to Switzerland to escape the encroaching threat
>> > > od Hitler's "National Socialism" (NAZI) party and from there
>> > > to the US where he stayed for the rest of his life.
>> > > You, Starmaker, are a clueless hack.
>> >
Starmaker wrote:
>> > https://monthlyreview.org/product/mr-001-01-1949-05/
>> > I appologize if it wasn't written by Albert Einstein...
>> > can you point to one link that claims that it *wasn't* written by
>> > Albert Einstein???
>> >
Hägar wrote:
>> > *** I'm simply saying why would a man, who is Jewish and had
>> > to relocate twice (Switzerland and the US) to escape the scourge
>> > of Hitler's Socialist regime, pen a letter in its praise ???
>> > Only a screwball like you could believe that.
>>

Starmaker wrote:
>> Sorry, I'm not into politics...
>> if you wondering what Einstein's politics are:
>>
>> Einstein was in favour of socialism and in opposition
>> to capitalism, as illustrated by the following quote:
>> "I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate
>> these grave evils, namely through the establishment
>> of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational
>> system which would be oriented toward social goals.
>> Political views of Albert Einstein - Wikipedia
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Albert_Einstein
>> https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&q=albert+einstein+politics&oq=albert

Starmaker wrote:
> But, if you, Hägar, want to talk about Albert Einstein politics,

> they both had the same politics, to take over the Vorld!
>
> Albert Einstein called on governments to proceed further
> by taking gradual steps towards forming an effectual federal
> world government.
>
> "Mankind's desire for peace can be realized only by
> the creation of a world government. --Albert Einstein
>

> The ruling Nazi Party of 1933-1945 Germany envisaged the

> ultimate establishment of a world government under the
> complete hegemony of the Third Reich.

> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_government>
> <https://www.youtube.com/v/FN7r0Rr1Qyc&autoplay=1>
> [[[ US-Neo-Nazi-Song-"Tomorrow-belongs to me"]]]

> The World Belongs To Me! -- The Starmaker
>

hanson wrote:
Well, this rehashing of Zio-kike machinations ought to be
taken with <http://tinyurl.com/Tears-for-Einsteins-Misery>
in which a lot of details about the thief and twice arrested
wife-beater Albert Einstein were discussed.
If interested check links "Vordergasse"

[Thomas Heger]

Einstein had a very strong German accent for all of his life (in the
USA). The quoted text is written in flawless English, what Einstein
could not do.

So I would agree, that this text is most likely not written by him.

There are always questions about authorship of a certain text, since
'the elite' provides also books, which the member elitists could claim
authorship for.

This is similar to other realms in arts and science, where usually the
'big animal' demands all the fame and leaves the annoying work to others.

So painters should paint and singers should sing - without possible
assistance from behind the curtains.

Some did and failed ('Milli Vanilli' for instance).

Therefore such public exams are no longer in use and we have to buy
things as presented.

TH

[hanson]

"Thomas Heger" <ttt...@web.de> wrote

> Am 10.08.2017 um 20:02 schrieb Hägar:
>> "The Starmaker" wrote in message news:598C98...@ix.netcom.com...
>> https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
>>

>> Hägar wrote:
>> *** This piece of trash was written not by Einstein, but by
>> a socialist political hack, of the same type than those who
>> penned Obama's two books.
>>
>> Einstein was a scientist and scientists just don't write or
>> orate in the lingo of the socialist ruling class. Obama, on the other
>> hand, is the epitome of socialism/communism and has the flowery rhetoric
>> of those carpet baggers.
>>
>> Einstein fled to Switzerland to escape the encroaching threat
>> od Hitler's "National Socialism" (NAZI) party and from there
>> to the US where he stayed for the rest of his life.
>> You, Starmaker, are a clueless hack.
>

"Thomas Dumbass Heger" wrote:
> Einstein had a very strong German accent for all of his life (in the USA).
> The quoted text is written in flawless English, what Einstein could not
> do.
> So I would agree, that this text is most likely not written by him.
>

hanson wrote:
Dumbass Heger, how does an accent determine grammar?
or how or by what means were you able to conclude that a
spoken accent (audio) can be seen in a silent, printed article? ..
Here, for your benefit, are some more
<http://tinyurl.com/Tears-for-Einsteins-Misery>

[The Starmaker]

Do you prefer the Spanish translation?

[Thomas Heger]

I'm German and write in a second language. So I know very the
difficulties for Germans t5o write in English (or for English to write
in German).

The English language is full of very specific rules and exceptions and
there are way more English words than German.

German on the other hand is difficult for speakers of English, because
they have e.g. three genders and certain letters, that are hard to
pronounce correctly (like 'ü').

So I would guess, that I could hear the origin of a speaker. But I could
also see the differences in the written language, since certain mistakes
are typical for Germans and for English.

For instance countries are female in English (Germany is 'she') and the
people living there are male singular (the German).
The German language uses different concepts and countries have mainly
the neutral gender and people are addressed in plural.

So speakers of either language make certain errors, because they are
used to the concepts, their own language is based on. And they keep them
long after they speak the new foreign language perfectly.

From such errors I can estimate the origin of the speaker, even if
there is no accent.

But Einstein spoke with a very strong German accent (like e.g. Wernher
von Braun), hence he did not learn the new language English too well.

Since the quoted text about socialism is flawless, I assume that
Einstein could not have written it (himself).

But possibly the text was edited or corrected on the foundation of a
text of Einstein himself. Possibly he wrote in German and that was
translated by a professional translator.


TH

[hanson]

hanson wrote:
Thomas, alter Knabe, der kurze Sinn Deines langen Post's ist
offensichtlich. Schweigen währe Gold für Dich gewesen.
Geniesse das Wochenende, und bleibe ein gute Landser.
Wiederschaun'
hanson

[J. Clarke]

In article <ev97f6...@mid.individual.net>, ttt...@web.de says...

I think that Einstein's command of English was considerably better than
yours. I'm pretty sure that he understood that one would only refer to
_writing_ with an accent if one was attempting to be facetious.

If you mean that people with certain backgrounds make characteristic
grammatical errors, that may be true, but it is not an "accent", and when
one is writing for publication and (a) has time to review one's work, (b)
hand it to someone in the English department at a major university to vet,
and (c) also has it reviewed by the publication's professional editor, such
errors can be easily eliminated.

Now, whether Einstein's views on politics should be given much weight is a
different question--he was an expert on physics, not government. Expertise
in one field does not automatically convey expertise in another.

However I suspect you know all this and are just trolling for an argument.

[The Starmaker]

'government expert'?? , i didn't even know the term existed. Is Trump a
'government expert'????

[The Starmaker]

Einstein was certaintly a communist expert:

the first item in Einstein's file, in 1932, arguing that Einstein should not be allowed into the United States.
''Not even Stalin himself'' was affiliated with so many anarchic-Communist groups, the letter said.

http://www.theeinsteinfile.com/_Einstein/fbi_files/1.pdf

https://vault.fbi.gov/Albert%20Einstein/Albert%20Einstein%20Part%201%20of%2014/view


Manifesto of the Communist Party: Special Collector's Edition with Foreward By Albert Einstein
Karl Marx; Friedrich Engels
https://www.abebooks.com/9781936828128/Manifesto-Communist-Party-Special-Collectors-193682812X/plp

[The Starmaker]

Albert Einstein, was offered the presidency of Israel in 1952 but turned it down, stating
"I am deeply moved by the offer from our State of Israel [to serve as President], and at once saddened and ashamed that I cannot accept it.




I guess Israel was thinking..."We could use a guy like Einstein who loves to build bombs."


"WE WOULD OWN THE WORLD!"



I wouldn't have been suprised if Einstein would have fled to Russia and drop the bomb on The United States...


He didn't like Capitalism and he didn't like American Women...


I think he has a thing for...Russian women.

[hanson]

"The Starmaker" <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:

>> "J. Clarke" <j.clark...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Thomas Heger <ttt...@web.de> says...
>> > > hanson schrieb:

hanson wrote:
>>> Thomas, alter Knabe, der kurze Sinn Deines langen Post's ist
>>> offensichtlich. Schweigen währe Gold für Dich gewesen.
>>> Geniesse das Wochenende, und bleibe ein gute Landser.
>>> Wiederschaun'
>>>

>> "J. Clarke" <j.clark...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I think that Einstein's command of English was considerably better than
>> > yours. I'm pretty sure that he understood that one would only refer to
>> > _writing_ with an accent if one was attempting to be facetious.
>> >
>> > If you mean that people with certain backgrounds make characteristic
>> > grammatical errors, that may be true, but it is not an "accent", and
>> > when
>> > one is writing for publication and (a) has time to review one's work,
>> > (b)
>> > hand it to someone in the English department at a major university to
>> > vet,
>> > and (c) also has it reviewed by the publication's professional editor,
>> > such
>> > errors can be easily eliminated.
>> > Now, whether Einstein's views on politics should be given much weight
>> > is a
>> > different question--he was an expert on physics, not government.
>> > Expertise
>> > in one field does not automatically convey expertise in another.
>>

> The Starmaker wrote:
>> 'government expert'?? , i didn't even know the term existed. Is Trump a
>> 'government expert'????

The Starmaker wrote:
Einstein was certaintly a communist expert:
>

The first item in Einstein's FBI file, in 1932, argues that

Einstein should not be allowed into the United States.
''Not even Stalin himself'' was affiliated with so many
anarchic-Communist groups, the letter said.
>
<http://www.theeinsteinfile.com/_Einstein/fbi_files/1.pdf>
>
<https://vault.fbi.gov/Albert%20Einstein/Albert%20Einstein%20Part%201%20of%2014/view>
>
Manifesto of the Communist Party: Special Collector's Edition
with Foreward By Albert Einstein Karl Marx; Friedrich Engels
<https://www.abebooks.com/9781936828128/Manifesto-Communist-Party-Special-Collectors-193682812X/plp>
>

Albert Einstein, was offered the presidency of Israel in 1952
but turned it down, stating "I am deeply moved by the offer
from our State of Israel [to serve as President], and at once
saddened and ashamed that I cannot accept it.>
>
I guess Israel was thinking..."We could use a guy like Einstein
who loves to build bombs." "WE WOULD OWN THE WORLD!"
>
I wouldn't have been suprised if Einstein would have fled to
Russia and drop the bomb on The United States...
He didn't like Capitalism and he didn't like American Women...
I think he has a thing for...Russian women.
>

hanson wrote:
.... ahahahaha... Starmaker, your tripe is a very good
addition to <http://tinyurl.com/Tears-for-Einsteins-Misery>.
After all, Einstein was an AshkenNazi Khazar whose ilk
flooded first Russia (and fucked it up) and then filtered
into Western Europe (and fucked it up) & then floated
across the Atlantic to infest the USA where they became
a horde of mooches who whored this Nation down to the
point which gave cause for the rise of Trump...
....

[Jeff-Relf.Me]

In " Why Socialism ? ", by Albert Einstein, May 1949
  https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
Einstein both starts and ends with:  Why Socialism ?

In the end, he asks: ＜＜

  How can [a] COUNTERWEIGHT to the power of bureaucracy be assured ?

  Clarity about the aims and PROBLEMS of socialism is 
  of greatest significance in our age of transition. ＞＞ 

Captialism is the COUNTERWEIGHT ( to the power of bureaucracy ).
Without capitalism, you have no real say, no _real_ vote.
One dollar, One vote; No dollars, No _real_ votes.

Communist slaves in China have two choices:

 1. Work for the state, with state housing.  Or: 
 2. Work for the state, in a "ReEducation camp" ( jail ).

With luck, this won't change; otherwise, I couldn't afford their stuff.

[Jeff-Relf.Me]

Wikipedia says: ＜＜

  Einstein was in favour of socialism and in opposition to capitalism, 
  as illustrated by the following quote: 

  " I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, 
    namely through the establishment of a socialist economy "... ＞＞
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Albert_Einstein

But the quote is from:

  " Why Socialism ? ", by Albert Einstein, May 1949
    https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
  Where Einstein BOTH STARTS AND ENDS WITH:  Why Socialism ?

A bit further, at the very end, Einstein _ASKS_:  ＜＜

  A planned economy, as such, may be accompanied by 
  the complete enslavement of the individual...
  How can [a] COUNTERWEIGHT to the power of bureaucracy be assured ?

  Clarity about the aims and PROBLEMS of socialism is 
  of greatest significance in our age of transition. ＞＞ 

Captialism is the COUNTERWEIGHT ( to the power of bureaucracy ).
Without capitalism, you have no real say, no _real_ vote.
One dollar, One vote; No dollars, No _real_ votes.

Communist slaves in China have two choices:

 1. Work for the state, with state housing.  Or: 
 2. Work for the state, in a "ReEducation camp" ( jail ).

With luck, this won't change; otherwise, I couldn't afford their stuff.

[Doomsdrzej]

On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 05:23:45 -0700 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote:

>
>In " Why Socialism ? ", by Albert Einstein, May 1949
> https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
>Einstein both starts and ends with: Why Socialism ?
>

>In the end, he asks: ??

>
> How can [a] COUNTERWEIGHT to the power of bureaucracy be assured ?
>
> Clarity about the aims and PROBLEMS of socialism is

> of greatest significance in our age of transition. ??

>
>Captialism is the COUNTERWEIGHT ( to the power of bureaucracy ).
>Without capitalism, you have no real say, no _real_ vote.
>One dollar, One vote; No dollars, No _real_ votes.
>
>Communist slaves in China have two choices:
>
> 1. Work for the state, with state housing. Or:
> 2. Work for the state, in a "ReEducation camp" ( jail ).
>
>With luck, this won't change; otherwise, I couldn't afford their stuff.

>In " Why Socialism ? ", by Albert Einstein, May 1949 https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/ Einstein both starts and ends with: Why Socialism ? In the end, he asks: ?? How can [a] COUNTERWEIGHT to the power of bureaucracy be assured ? Clarity about the aims and PROBLEMS of socialism is of greatest significance in our age of transition. ?? Captialism is the COUNTERWEIGHT ( to the power of bureaucracy ). Without capitalism, you have no real say, no _real_ vote. One dollar, One vote; No dollars, No _real_ votes. Communist slaves in China have two choices: 1. Work for the state, with state housing. Or: 2. Work for the state, in a "ReEducation camp" ( jail ). With luck, this won't change; otherwise, I couldn't afford their stuff.

Einstein was a Communist traitor. The reason that his name has been
made synonymous with high intelligence is not because he was actually
that smart, but because the media and the "scholars," who are
increasingly radical on the left, love to propagandize and glorify one
of their own.

To Hell with parasites, to Hell with the left.

[Snit]

On 8/13/17, 8:20 AM, in article 5fr0pc9bcp0o5e38a...@4ax.com,

Communist? "One of their own"? Not smart?

LOL!

Wow... you really are insane. Wait... he did not look like you and you do
not see him as one of "yours" -- thus he does not deserve the special
entitlements you demand.

Got it!

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

[Hägar]

"Snit" wrote in message news:D5B5D81A.B0388%use...@gallopinginsanity.com...

>>> snip <<<

LOL!

Wow... you really are insane. Wait... he did not look like you and you do
not see him as one of "yours" -- thus he does not deserve the special
entitlements you demand.

Got it!

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

*** Works well in theory ... unless, of course, the other guy is a
total dick ...

[Hägar]

"Jeff-Relf.Me @." wrote in message
news:Jeff-R...@Aug.13--6.06am.Seattle.2017...


>>> snip useless drivel <<<


*** Jeff, you off your meds again ???

[Thomas Heger]

Am 13.08.2017 um 00:01 schrieb J. Clarke:

>> Since the quoted text about socialism is flawless, I assume that
>> Einstein could not have written it (himself).
>>
>> But possibly the text was edited or corrected on the foundation of a
>> text of Einstein himself. Possibly he wrote in German and that was
>> translated by a professional translator.
>
> I think that Einstein's command of English was considerably better than
> yours. I'm pretty sure that he understood that one would only refer to
> _writing_ with an accent if one was attempting to be facetious.

listen yourself:

"Albert Einstein (stock footage / archival footage)"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OamFZCFfQkg

"Albert Einstein Interview 1940 "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Z3SkEGh2M


"Albert Einstein Talking "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsiU2_PaSTQ


TH

[The Starmaker]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/why-women-had-better-sex-under-socialism.html


Einstein just like socialist chicks...cause they are easy.


Einstein didn't like Captialist chicks because....they charge too much money.

[Thomas Heger]

Am 13.08.2017 um 00:01 schrieb J. Clarke:

>> But Einstein spoke with a very strong German accent (like e.g. Wernher
>> von Braun), hence he did not learn the new language English too well.
>>
>> Since the quoted text about socialism is flawless, I assume that
>> Einstein could not have written it (himself).
>>
>> But possibly the text was edited or corrected on the foundation of a
>> text of Einstein himself. Possibly he wrote in German and that was
>> translated by a professional translator.
>
> I think that Einstein's command of English was considerably better than
> yours. I'm pretty sure that he understood that one would only refer to
> _writing_ with an accent if one was attempting to be facetious.
>
> If you mean that people with certain backgrounds make characteristic
> grammatical errors, that may be true, but it is not an "accent", and when
> one is writing for publication and (a) has time to review one's work, (b)
> hand it to someone in the English department at a major university to vet,
> and (c) also has it reviewed by the publication's professional editor, such
> errors can be easily eliminated.

I found this nice video about typical German errors in speaking (or
writing) English:

"5 (more) mistakes made by Germans in English - 5 häufige Fehler im
Englischen"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhkZU-_xikY


Something along this line would allow to estimate the origin of the
speaker and how good someone can speak a foreign language.

It is mainly not the accent in a written text, but typical errors in
grammar, that are characteristic for the origin of the author.

So you are actually correct and 'accent' was the wrong word.

But which wrong word I use is typical for me as a German, who writes
English as a second language.

So these errors are, what we recognize as personal style of the speaker.
And this style we can compare with a kind of 'picture' we have about a
voice.

If these impressions match, we regard the person and the author of a
text as identical, otherwise not.


TH

[The Starmaker]

You need to come from...understanding.


First Einstein wanted to submit an article..

so he had to first write or dictate it..

then it needs to be checked for correct speling...
(that would take a lot from a person's personality)

then it needs to be grammar checked..
(even i would become unrecognizable then)

by the time it gets to publication...


Neverless, the essence is there.


Have you ever seen the letter einstein wrote to fdr before it was completed?

http://ucsdnews.ucsd.edu/news_uploads/Einstein-letter.jpg

[Jeff-Relf.Me]

The_Starmaker wrote:
> Einstein just liked socialist chicks...cause they were easy.
> Einstein didn't like Captialist chicks because....they charged too much money.
> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/why-women-had-better-sex-under-socialism.html

No woman, following any ideology, is "easy".
If she needs money badly, like a junkie, she'll fuck for money.

Communist countries ban " Perversion for Profit " ( Porn ).
That, alone, is reason enough to subvert the system.
Corruption is China's LeastBad option, better than red tape communism.

[Doomsdrzej]

On 2017-08-13 03:03 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Jeff-Relf.Me, @. wrote:
>>

>> Wikipedia says: ＜＜

>>
>> Einstein was in favour of socialism and in opposition to capitalism,
>> as illustrated by the following quote:
>>
>> " I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils,

>> namely through the establishment of a socialist economy "... ＞＞

>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Albert_Einstein
>>
>> But the quote is from:
>>
>> " Why Socialism ? ", by Albert Einstein, May 1949
>> https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
>> Where Einstein BOTH STARTS AND ENDS WITH: Why Socialism ?
>>

>> A bit further, at the very end, Einstein _ASKS_: ＜＜

>>
>> A planned economy, as such, may be accompanied by
>> the complete enslavement of the individual...
>> How can [a] COUNTERWEIGHT to the power of bureaucracy be assured ?
>>
>> Clarity about the aims and PROBLEMS of socialism is

>> of greatest significance in our age of transition. ＞＞

>>
>> Captialism is the COUNTERWEIGHT ( to the power of bureaucracy ).
>> Without capitalism, you have no real say, no _real_ vote.
>> One dollar, One vote; No dollars, No _real_ votes.
>>
>> Communist slaves in China have two choices:
>>
>> 1. Work for the state, with state housing. Or:
>> 2. Work for the state, in a "ReEducation camp" ( jail ).
>>
>> With luck, this won't change; otherwise, I couldn't afford their stuff.
>
>
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/why-women-had-better-sex-under-socialism.html
>
>
> Einstein just like socialist chicks...cause they are easy.
>
>
> Einstein didn't like Captialist chicks because....they charge too much money.

Why anyone would believe anything the journalistic tampon known as the
New York Times would write is beyond me. Such discredited rags are
usually reserved for morons like the Prescott Parasite.


--
Doomsdrzej
OpenMedia & EFF member
TheRebel.media & Infowars supporter
Gab.ai: @doomsdrzej

[Hägar]

"Doomsdrzej" wrote in message news:WV1kB.208867$GV1.1...@fx05.iad...

*** The New York Times and The Washington Post are the bibles of
the Millennial Snowflakes, don't you know ....

[Doomsdrzej]

If the New York Times or the Washington Post claims that Donald Trump is
the resurrected corpse of Adolf Hitler sand mustache and with bleached
hair, left-wing idiots would believe it. After all, it is "credible."

Whatever Bill Maher, Trevor Noah, Stephen Colbert or those two rags say
is gospel.

[Snit]

On 8/13/17, 1:17 PM, in article Qt2kB.186750$k72....@fx30.iad,

"Doomsdrzej" <.m@nsn.s> wrote:

>>> Einstein didn't like Captialist chicks because....they charge too much
>>> money.
>>
>> Why anyone would believe anything the journalistic tampon known as the
>> New York Times would write is beyond me. Such discredited rags are
>> usually reserved for morons like the Prescott Parasite.
>>
>>
>> *** The New York Times and The Washington Post are the bibles of
>> the Millennial Snowflakes, don't you know ....
>
> If the New York Times or the Washington Post claims that Donald Trump is
> the resurrected corpse of Adolf Hitler sand mustache and with bleached
> hair, left-wing idiots would believe it. After all, it is "credible."
>
> Whatever Bill Maher, Trevor Noah, Stephen Colbert or those two rags say
> is gospel.
>
> --
> Doomsdrzej
> OpenMedia & EFF member
> TheRebel.media & Infowars supporter
> Gab.ai: @doomsdrzej

You have to be posting this nonsense for the sake of irony these days. I
mean, really, not even you could be THAT immune to reason.

[Chris Ahlstrom]

Hägar wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> the Millennial Snowflakes, don't you know ....

^^^^^^^^^^ Idiot Sign

--
Many a writer seems to think he is never profound except when he can't
understand his own meaning.
-- George D. Prentice

[Doomsdrzej]

On 2017-08-13 05:04 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Hägar wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> the Millennial Snowflakes, don't you know ....
> ^^^^^^^^^^ Idiot Sign

The ultimate snowflake of Usenet is triggered.

--
Doomsdrzej
OpenMedia & EFF member

Infowars & TheRebel.media supporter
Gab.ai: @doomsdrzej

[Hägar]

"Thomas Heger" wrote in message news:evbm76...@mid.individual.net...

*** Very good, Thomas, but the video clip is representative of the
recently divorced (from the EU) Queen's English, rather than its
American relative, and several of the iterations do not apply here.
But yes, there is confusion in German to English translations, as
shown here: Englisch für Fortgeschrittene (English for Runaways)

https://www.facebook.com/ErinnerstDuDichNoch/videos/1412935475487219/

[Thomas Heger]

There are less problems for German with the English language than for
English speakers with German.

Many people from England have a strong accent for all their life, even
if they live in Germany forever.

English make certain errors, because they base their German on different
linguistic concepts of the English language.

E.g. the phrase 'German' can mean several different things:

German language
person from German
citizen of the Federal Republic of Germany
speaker of the German language
the people of Germany
all German speakers

In German these has all different words.

So if someone mixes 'Speaker of the German language' with 'Citizen of
the FRG', we know with some degree of certainty, this person is from
England, even if the German pronunciation is perfect.

TH

[Hägar]

"Thomas Heger" wrote in message news:evfp7g...@mid.individual.net...

*** Not only that, but Germans are renowned to take two or three
stand alone words and then string them together to make a single
new one, like this: "Eisenbahnschrankenanwärter".
Ach, die verfluchte Deutscge Sprache ...

[William Hyde]

And "Cousin German" means first cousin. Admittedly it's a bit archaic, but you will find it in E. R. Eddison's work, and as I'm posting from the sf group it seems german(e).

William Hyde

[hanson]

"Hägar" <hs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
in message news:3_WdnSxVTZ4v2w7E...@giganews.com...

Hägar wrote:
> *** Not only that, but Germans are renowned to take two or three
> stand alone words and then string them together to make a single
> new one, like this: "Eisenbahnschrankenanwärter".
> Ach, die verfluchte Deutscge Sprache ...

hanson wrote:
Right, but it's poetry in motion of a bygone age
where folks strolling on the sidewalk were doing
it on the "Hochgehbürgersteigweg", ... yet being
outdone by their Southern neighbors, the Swiss,
who refer to a kitchen cabinet as "Chuchichäschtli"
or to greasy Quiche as "öhlchääschüächli".
That frequent "ch" sounds like the Hebe-Yiddish one.
Hey, different strokes by different folks, n'est pas.

[Thomas Heger]

Am 15.08.2017 um 21:08 schrieb Hägar:

> There are less problems for German with the English language than for
> English speakers with German.
>
> Many people from England have a strong accent for all their life, even
> if they live in Germany forever.
>
> English make certain errors, because they base their German on different
> linguistic concepts of the English language.
>
> E.g. the phrase 'German' can mean several different things:
>
> German language
> person from German
> citizen of the Federal Republic of Germany
> speaker of the German language
> the people of Germany
> all German speakers
>
> In German these has all different words.
>
> So if someone mixes 'Speaker of the German language' with 'Citizen of
> the FRG', we know with some degree of certainty, this person is from
> England, even if the German pronunciation is perfect.
>
> TH
>
>
> *** Not only that, but Germans are renowned to take two or three
> stand alone words and then string them together to make a single
> new one, like this: "Eisenbahnschrankenanwärter".
> Ach, die verfluchte Deutscge Sprache ...

Well, yes, even if the word is 'Schrankenwärter'.

But there are tricky differences in the languages and such difficulties
cause linguistic errors.

So I -for instance- make several errors in English, even if I can speak
that language quite well.

But Einstein spoke poor English with a heavy German accent and slow,
even if he was reading his speech from a sheet of paper.

So I we would expect a certain amount of 'Germanic' mistakes, if he
wrote an English text.

Only no such errors can be found in the quoted text. Therefore I assume,
that Einstein had not written it, but someone else.


TH

[Jeff-Relf.Me]

In " Why Socialism ? ", Einstein noted how PseudoSocialism
leads to " the complete enslavement of the individual ".

Communist slaves have two choices:

 1. Work for the state, with state housing.  Or: 
 2. Work for the state, in a "ReEducation camp" ( jail ).

With luck, this won't change; 
otherwise, we couldn't afford their stuff.

In " Why Socialism ? ", Einstein asks:

  [ Can ] CounterWeights to the power of bureaucracy be assured ?

How often do Bill Maher, Bill Clinton, Obama and CNN discuss 
the  PROBLEMS  of socialism, and the necessary CounterWeights ?

How often do they discuss the  BENEFITS  of global warming ?

Captialism is the CounterWeight ( to the power of bureaucracy ).
Without capitalism, you have no real say, no _real_ vote.
One dollar, One vote; No dollars, No _real_ votes, you slave.

[The Starmaker]

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/


it appears to me that einstein is getting socialist/government ideas from observing...ants.


production and consumption



Does Einstein think we are just running around the ground, on the surface of the earth, ..searching for food????

[The Starmaker]

i saw a headline in the news that read: 78 percent of people are living paycheck to paycheck



are those the working ants???