>>>> Steve Dodds <
sdo...@nova-optical.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 4/13/2018 10:44 PM, The Zygon wrote:
>>>>>> I suspect that everyone knows at least one story or book which is
>>>>> quite famous, but which they think is crap. Or at minimum cannot see
>>>>> what is so great about the story or book. I suspect that many people
>>>>> know of just such stories or books, even authors whose body of work they
>>>>> think is quite undeserving of the praise heaped upon them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One author whose work I don't like and whose fame I don't quite get is
>>>>> _Spider Robinson_. And one story whose fame I don't quite get is
>>>>> _Fahrenheit 451_.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not going to try to justify my feelings about this author or this
>>>>> story. I find such debates about aesthetics very similar to theological
>>>>> debates. A whole of feeling and a whole lot of talking past each other,
>>>>> other ending in hurt feelings and no agreement.  I prefer to just avoid
>>>>> them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I would like to hear of such stories, books or authors from others.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Â I love Robert Heinlein and have read everything he wrote, but Stranger
>>>>> in a strange land was incomprehensible, I would have quit but I kept
>>>>> thinking there's no way a Heinlein book can be this bad, it's going to
>>>>> get better any minuet now.
>>>>
>>>> My understanding is that Heinlein began _Stranger_ and then put
>>>> it aside for a while, figuring it wouldn't sell. And then picked
>>>> it up again a decade or so later, figuring that by now his name
>>>> could sell anything, including his laundry list. And
>>>> unfortunately, he was right.
>>>>
>>>> My opinion, as stated a couple-three times before:
>>>>
>>>>> It's easy to tell good from bad Heinlein: all you have to do is
>>>>> look at the copyright date.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anything before 1964 = good, except for _Stranger in a Strange
>>>>> Land,_ first third good, second two-thirds bad
>>>>>
>>>>> _Farnham's Freehold_, 1964 = bad
>>>>>
>>>>> _The Moon is a Harsh Mistress_, 1966 = good
>>>>>
>>>>> Anything after 1966 = bad, bad, bad
>>>
>>> _Friday_ ???
>>
>> Could have used a plot.
>>
>>>
>>> _I Will Fear No Evil_ ??? was a scary prediction of the near future,
>>> brain transfer of the old into the young.
>>>
>>
>> <snort> Wasn't written scary. The brain transplant was just an excuse
>> for the old man to find out what it's like to catch instead of pitch.
>
> Yeah. Dirty old man gets him/herself pregnant. Yucch, p'uti, and
> also feh.
>
Yes, one of several works by him in which his protagonist gets his
incest on. But even apart from that, not one of his better works.