GIRL GENIUS 2011-04-11 For Whom The Bell Tolls
tphile
wish he did ;-)
Dorothy J Heydt
tphile <tph...@cableone.net> wrote:
>I'm thinking Oublie has never watched a Harryhausen movie and will
>wish he did ;-)
Yes, it's exciting to imagine just WHAT will surface when the
bell ... um, rings.
Maybe several tonnes of gold will fall on his head?
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tphile
> In article <8866f504-96c2-4574-834a-60625f352...@a17g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
btw isn't it the usual case in a messy marital breakup, furniture gets
broken, the help gets sacked(bodybagged), and the spouse empties the
bank account?
Robert A. Woodward
<d0db8d24-9e47-40cf...@p13g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>
,
tphile <tph...@cableone.net> wrote:
But if she doesn't have the key or combination of the wall safe,
its contents could be left alone. OTOH, assuming that all his
assumptions are true, just how is he going to haul away the loot?
The sky is dominated by escorts of Castle Wulfenbach, the city is
surrounded by a big wall with few gates, and most, if not all, of
the Jagermonster Corps is just minutes away.
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Paul Colquhoun
Sometimes the bank account gets emptied in unusual ways:
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Quadibloc
> I'm thinking Oublie has never watched a Harryhausen movie and will
> wish he did ;-)
Yes, I would think it's obvious that this rumor is nothing more than a
trap. Perhaps this is how Jagers are recruited.
Dorothy J Heydt
You know, I've watched a lot of Harryhausen movies and I don't
get which particular one (if any) is being referenced. Someone
enlighten me?
Dorothy J Heydt
>> In article
><8866f504-96c2-4574-834a-60625f352...@a17g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>> tphile <tph...@cableone.net> wrote:
>> >I'm thinking Oublie has never watched a Harryhausen movie and will
>> >wish he did ;-)
>>
>> Yes, it's exciting to imagine just WHAT will surface when the
>> bell ... um, rings.
>>
>> Maybe several tonnes of gold will fall on his head?
>>
>broken, the help gets sacked(bodybagged), and the spouse empties the
>bank account?
Marital breakup? Whose marital breakup? What's the relevance?
Wayne Throop
:: gets broken, the help gets sacked(bodybagged), and the spouse empties
:: the bank account?
: djh...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
: Marital breakup? Whose marital breakup? What's the relevance?
I imagine Bill and Lucrezia's. Possibly the "Heterodyne treasure"
Wayne Throop
::: gets broken, the help gets sacked(bodybagged), and the spouse
::: empties the bank account?
Hm, that's odd, last line truncated. See if it happens agin.
"was used as venture capital for the Other."
Quadibloc
> In article <bd86d95e-c872-4818-9865-3672a1fe2...@k7g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
> Quadibloc <jsav...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> >On Apr 10, 9:45 pm, tphile <tph...@cableone.net> wrote:
>
> >> I'm thinking Oublie has never watched a Harryhausen movie and will
> >> wish he did ;-)
>
> >Yes, I would think it's obvious that this rumor is nothing more than a
> >trap. Perhaps this is how Jagers are recruited.
>
> You know, I've watched a lot of Harryhausen movies and I don't
> get which particular one (if any) is being referenced. Someone
> enlighten me?
>
scenes was Jason battling a giant guardian, Talos. There was also the
scene in which he fought animated skeletons... but I didn't really
know either. Certainly, either in that movie, or the various Sindbad
movies, there must have been scenes of someone going after plunder and
triggering a trap.
One from a 1974 Sindbad movie involving an idol of Kali is another
possibility.
John Savard
Quadibloc
>
> Marital breakup? Whose marital breakup? What's the relevance?
>
enforcing community property on them.
John Savard
Dorothy J Heydt
Oh. Well, conceivably. We just don't have enough data.
rincewind
> I'm going to guess Jason and the Argonauts, since one of the memorable
> scenes was Jason battling a giant guardian, Talos. There was also the
> scene in which he fought animated skeletons... but I didn't really
> know either. Certainly, either in that movie, or the various Sindbad
> movies, there must have been scenes of someone going after plunder and
> triggering a trap.
>
> One from a 1974 Sindbad movie involving an idol of Kali is another
> possibility.
Tarzan and the City of Gold has the villain find the legendary
treasure which turns out to be a golden skull set in the wall. When he
tries to remove it, the door seal and the room begins to fill with
gold dust... a LOT of gold dust. Bye bye villain.
Dorothy J Heydt
Oh, I can just see Klaus, IF he were up and about again, AND IF
he had Bill and Lucrezia in his court, AND IF they were trying to
get a divorce under the Lex Europana, having a great old time
with it.
But I really don't think even the Foglios have that up their
sleeves.
Dorothy J Heydt
rincewind <edrh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm going to guess Jason and the Argonauts, since one of the memorable
>> scenes was Jason battling a giant guardian, Talos. There was also the
>> scene in which he fought animated skeletons... but I didn't really
>> know either. Certainly, either in that movie, or the various Sindbad
>> movies, there must have been scenes of someone going after plunder and
>> triggering a trap.
>>
>> One from a 1974 Sindbad movie involving an idol of Kali is another
>> possibility.
>
>Tarzan and the City of Gold
Um ... IMDB doesn't seem to list that. It has Allan Quatermain
and the Lost City of Gold (1986), The Lone Ranger and the Lost
City of Gold (1958), Tarzan and the Valley of Gold (1966, not a
Harryhausen), Tarzan and the Lost City (1998, not a Harryhausen
either), et cetera ... what title were you thinking of?
> has the villain find the legendary
>treasure which turns out to be a golden skull set in the wall. When he
>tries to remove it, the door seal and the room begins to fill with
>gold dust... a LOT of gold dust. Bye bye villain.
Oh, heck, _Raiders of the Lost Ark_. But that's not a
Harryhausen either.
Robert Carnegie
Similar outcome (spoiler) in a 1987, sometimes repeated BBC radio
spoof anthology series, _Tales from the Mausoleum Club_, in a British
Empire episode titled "Soldiers Three India Nil". Three British
soldiers have come by a map to find the Indian Eldorado... or
something like that.
tphile
Yes of course I was referring to Jason and the Argonauts. Hercules
and Hilas take a gold broach pin the size of a javelin from the
treasure vault of the gods. Which animates the huge statue of Talos in
one of the most iconic scenes in SF/F. The Barons description
suggested a similar fate with the Bells striker. We know that the
mechanicsburg gargoyle statues like the one at the gate move, so they
may be another defense like the torchmen.
We also know the Doom Bell is not only a signal but a weapon according
to der kestel. Its ringing has a devastating effect on the people.
but this suggests a fun possibility. What if all those skeletons and
skulls we see littering der kestel got animated into an Army of
Darkness/Children of the Night. Now that would be a cool scene to see
and it would help with the castlekeeping.
but I personally think any treasure is deep with der kestel in a vault
so filled with safeguards and deathtraps it would make Jack Benny
bones burn green with envy. (Jack Benny's Vault - go look it up)
As for the Loyal Guardian, anything The Baron says has to be wrong or
a red herring. I am thinking it might be something cute, harmless
looking and nice, until it's too late. Like the killer rabbit in
Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
tphile
tphile
several holes in it. Yes, until we know his full story we are going
to try to fit him in every plot hole we can. However I should think a
TRUE Loyal Guardian would never leave his post or shirk his duty or
change his priorities or serve another master. and Higgs showed a
sparky knowledge of muse tech when he took out Otilia.
How about a seneschal or such that Hulks Out when needed. or does the
Etrigan the demon shift. My vote is for an Etrigan.
and then there is The Assistant. who I think is gonna join Higgs as
another popular mystery. Does anyone else think she more than
resembles the Muse Clio? She wears trilobyte earrings and a lightning
cloak clasp which harkens to the opera fairy tale. She is always
carrying that book like the Muse Clio. Though its a pity she hasn't
used some Book Fu on The Baron like Agatha did Zola.
In any case, The Assistant becoming Agathas Secretary says alot about
future events. Like that when Agatha goes to England via Paris, its
not gonna be a chase or low profile journey but more like a world tour
of a celebrity and statesman with social events, political
negotiations etc.
tphile
William George Ferguson
wrote:
Actually, when they finally open the vault, they'll find a small sketch,
the original art for an etching that van Rijn did as a commission form the
syndics of the pipemaker's guild, which they used as the art of their best
(or at least most expensive) pipeweed, which they sold as The Pipeweed
Masterwork. Because ot its use for advertising, the work is frequently
referreed to as The Mechanicsburg Masters.
Odios Heterodyne was a huge fan of van Rijn, and valued this above all his
other possesions, but it isn't really worth all that much on the
collector's marked, nowhere near as much as the collection of etchngs known
as 'Susanna And The Dirty Old Men'.
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Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
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Quadibloc
wrote:
> Actually, when they finally open the vault, they'll find a small sketch,
And here I thought you would say that this sketch would contain the
motto "Pacem in Terris" at the bottom.
(This is, of course, a reference to the popular song "One Tin
Soldier".)
John Savard
William F. Adams
> Considering The Higgs is the Loyal Guardian theory. I am seeing
> several holes in it. Yes, until we know his full story we are going
> to try to fit him in every plot hole we can. However I should think a
> TRUE Loyal Guardian would never leave his post or shirk his duty or
> change his priorities or serve another master. and Higgs showed a
> sparky knowledge of muse tech when he took out Otilia.
> How about a seneschal or such that Hulks Out when needed. or does the
> Etrigan the demon shift. My vote is for an Etrigan.
Ive been thinking butler, but it is interesting that the loyal
guardian and Higgs both seem to be wearing an ear-ring:
http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20110411
http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20110309
William
tphile
Yes there is a similar resemblance, but this is The Barons version and
how reliable is that?
Traditionally a loyal guardian would be a dragon or three headed dog
but at the very least I hope that it is something suprising but
familiar, something we saw and overlooked in the background as long as
its not Otilia/Von Pinn which is too obvious.
Paul Ciszek
In article <744e0090-d1af-4ca1...@l30g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
tphile <tph...@cableone.net> wrote:
>
>Yes there is a similar resemblance, but this is The Barons version and
>how reliable is that?
Is Oublenmach a Baron? He keeps refering to others as aristocrats and
insisting that he is a "lesser man". I assumed that he was a commoner
hired by the Knights of Jove to expedite their plan.
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rincewind
> >Tarzan and the City of Gold
>
> Um ... IMDB doesn't seem to list that. It has Allan Quatermain
> and the Lost City of Gold (1986), The Lone Ranger and the Lost
> City of Gold (1958), Tarzan and the Valley of Gold (1966, not a
> Harryhausen), Tarzan and the Lost City (1998, not a Harryhausen
> either), et cetera ... what title were you thinking of?
Pretty sure it's "Valley of Gold." Mike Henry as Tarzan.
It's been a long time since I've seen the film, I could have details
wrong. But I'm pretty certain about the skull and the gold dust.
michael
the one in the Addam's Family mansion - maybe with undead Jaeger
guardians on the side.
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:43:41 -0700 (PDT), tphile <tph...@cableone.net>
wrote:
>but I personally think any treasure is deep with der kestel in a vault
Dorothy J Heydt
Paul Ciszek <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>In article <744e0090-d1af-4ca1...@l30g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
>tphile <tph...@cableone.net> wrote:
>>
>>Yes there is a similar resemblance, but this is The Barons version and
>>how reliable is that?
>
>Is Oublenmach a Baron? He keeps refering to others as aristocrats and
>insisting that he is a "lesser man". I assumed that he was a commoner
>hired by the Knights of Jove to expedite their plan.
In the traditions of European nobility in our timeline, a Baron
is a lesser man, compared to Counts, Earls, Dukes, Princes.
Somebody want to do a thorough search and see if any of his
associates addresses him as "Baron"?
Note that Klaus was, and officially still is, a mere Baron, even
though he's now functionally Emperor of Europa.
Derek Lyons
>
>In article <744e0090-d1af-4ca1...@l30g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
>tphile <tph...@cableone.net> wrote:
>>
>>Yes there is a similar resemblance, but this is The Barons version and
>>how reliable is that?
>
>Is Oublenmach a Baron? He keeps refering to others as aristocrats and
>insisting that he is a "lesser man". I assumed that he was a commoner
>hired by the Knights of Jove to expedite their plan.
His being a "lesser man" has nothing to do with his rank. He explains
a page or two back that while the balance of the conspiracy is in the
game for 'noble' motives (power), he's there for 'base' ones (gold).
Though why seeking power is more noble than seeking gold escapes me.
D.
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Wayne Throop
: Though why seeking power is more noble than seeking gold escapes me.
Well, knowlege is power but time is money, so seeking
knowledge is better than wasting time.
Also, xref: why is the pen mightier than the sword?
tphile
That could be, it sounds like they are a spark lineage family and
their home is spark built with doom bell to summon their construct
butler Lurch etc
The Munsters too
tphile
William George Ferguson
>: fair...@gmail.com (Derek Lyons)
>: Though why seeking power is more noble than seeking gold escapes me.
I do believe Oublie was being the least little bit sarcastic there.
>Well, knowlege is power but time is money, so seeking
>knowledge is better than wasting time.
>
>Also, xref: why is the pen mightier than the sword?
With a stroke of a sword, you can cut a man. With the stroke of a pen, a
creative writer can cut a million men.
Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 20:17:24 GMT, thr...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop) wrote:
>
>> : fair...@gmail.com (Derek Lyons)
>> : Though why seeking power is more noble than seeking gold escapes me.
>
> I do believe Oublie was being the least little bit sarcastic there.
>
>> Well, knowlege is power but time is money, so seeking
>> knowledge is better than wasting time.
>>
>> Also, xref: why is the pen mightier than the sword?
>
> With a stroke of a sword, you can cut a man. With the stroke of a pen, a
> creative writer can cut a million men.
Because with the pen you sign the check that hires an entire company of
mercenaries armed with the latest firepower to take care of the guy with
a sword.
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Robert Carnegie
> nos...@nospam.com (Paul Ciszek) wrote:
>
> >tphile <tph...@cableone.net> wrote:
>
> >>Yes there is a similar resemblance, but this is The Barons version and
> >>how reliable is that?
>
> >Is Oublenmach a Baron? He keeps refering to others as aristocrats and
> >insisting that he is a "lesser man". I assumed that he was a commoner
> >hired by the Knights of Jove to expedite their plan.
>
> His being a "lesser man" has nothing to do with his rank. He explains
> a page or two back that while the balance of the conspiracy is in the
> game for 'noble' motives (power), he's there for 'base' ones (gold).
>
> Though why seeking power is more noble than seeking gold escapes me.
I suppose if you seek power, you have a use for it, a great project in
mind. If you seek gold, you probably just have creditors, or there's
stuff that you want to buy and can't afford.
Now I'm thinking of the Guild of Assassins teacher in Terry
Pratchett's _Pyramids_ who explains the high pure principle by which
guild members live, reproduced here:
<http://forums.leasticoulddo.com/index.php?
s=6e8fbf3309499e6c1f58a4743893c564&showtopic=12085&view=findpost&p=207129>
"We do it for the money."
tphile
>
> >> : fairwa...@gmail.com (Derek Lyons)
> >> : Though why seeking power is more noble than seeking gold escapes me.
>
> > I do believe Oublie was being the least little bit sarcastic there.
>
> >> Well, knowlege is power but time is money, so seeking
> >> knowledge is better than wasting time.
>
> >> Also, xref: why is the pen mightier than the sword?
>
> > With a stroke of a sword, you can cut a man. With the stroke of a pen, a
> > creative writer can cut a million men.
>
> Because with the pen you sign the check that hires an entire company of
> mercenaries armed with the latest firepower to take care of the guy with
> a sword.
>
> --
> Sea Wasp
> /^\
> ;;;
> Website:http://www.grandcentralarena.com Blog:http://seawasp.livejournal.com
With a pen, you can drain his bank accounts, destroy his credit
ratings, Sign him up for every volunteer project, Send dirty
suggestive letters to all the wives of his enemies.and friends. Sign
his name and address to all bathroom grafitti. and worse of all, tell
his mom what a bad boy he is playing with knives which will REALLY get
him into trouble.
tphile
Joel Olson
news:robertaw-EEA529...@news.individual.net...
> In article
> <d0db8d24-9e47-40cf...@p13g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>
> ,
> tphile <tph...@cableone.net> wrote:>> > <8866f504-96c2-4574-834a-60625f352...@a17g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
>> >
>> > tphile <tph...@cableone.net> wrote:
>> > >I'm thinking Oublie has never watched a Harryhausen movie and will
>> > >wish he did ;-)
>> >
>> > bell ... um, rings.
>> >
>> > Maybe several tonnes of gold will fall on his head?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Dorothy J. Heydt
>> > Vallejo, California
>> > djheydt at gmail dot com
>> > Should you wish to email me, you'd better use the gmail edress.
>> > Kithrup's all spammy and hotmail's been hacked.
>>
>> broken, the help gets sacked(bodybagged), and the spouse empties the
>> bank account?
>
> its contents could be left alone. OTOH, assuming that all his
> assumptions are true, just how is he going to haul away the loot?
> The sky is dominated by escorts of Castle Wulfenbach, the city is
> surrounded by a big wall with few gates, and most, if not all, of
> the Jagermonster Corps is just minutes away.
>
> --
> Robert Woodward <robe...@drizzle.com>
> <http://www.drizzle.com/~robertaw>
This is no time to worry about logistics.
J. Clarke
says...
>
> On 4/13/11 5:45 PM, William George Ferguson wrote:
> > On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 20:17:24 GMT, thr...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop) wrote:
> >
> >> : fair...@gmail.com (Derek Lyons)
> >> : Though why seeking power is more noble than seeking gold escapes me.
> >
> > I do believe Oublie was being the least little bit sarcastic there.
> >
> >> Well, knowlege is power but time is money, so seeking
> >> knowledge is better than wasting time.
> >>
> >> Also, xref: why is the pen mightier than the sword?
> >
> > With a stroke of a sword, you can cut a man. With the stroke of a pen, a
> > creative writer can cut a million men.
>
> Because with the pen you sign the check that hires an entire company of
> mercenaries armed with the latest firepower to take care of the guy with
> a sword.
With the pen you can sign the order that sends the United States Air
Force to turn the swordsman and everything around him into a plain of
softly glowing green glass.
David DeLaney
>This is no time to worry about logistics.
...there's ALWAYS time to worry about logistics.
Dave "consider the alternative" DeLaney
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