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Robin Sullivan

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Oct 2, 2008, 1:53:39 PM10/2/08
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Hey All,

I've been crazy swamped so not on the forum the last few days...But I
went to the 2008 National Book Festival in downtown DC over the
weekend. One of the things I found really neat was that Brad Meltzer
(who is quite a good speaker btw) put a soundtrack in his most recent
Novel "Book of Lies". I thought that was kind of a neat idea -
especially for SF stuff that tends to be very "Visual" in it's style
that having music that goes along with each chapter would add an extra
dimension to the story.

One person did bring up -- well what if you read slow - so not sure
how that works - I also don't have the book so I'm not sure if it is
one song per chapter or not. But anyway I thought this was
interesting. Does anyone have any thoughts on whether they think this
is good or bad?

Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)

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Oct 2, 2008, 2:09:20 PM10/2/08
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I write mine with a soundtrack in mind. In fact, often details of the
plot don't come alive in my head until I associate some piece of music
with them.

However, the licensing fees to actually PRODUCE my soundtrack would be
killer.

If you have the money, time, and resources to have a separate
soundtrack actually composed and produced -- an original one that
DOESN'T require licensing 20 pieces of music from 20 different sources
-- you're playing on an entirely different field than most of us.


--
Sea Wasp
/^\
;;;
Live Journal: http://seawasp.livejournal.com

Robin Sullivan

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On Oct 2, 2:09 pm, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"

<seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
>
>         If you have the money, time, and resources to have a separate
> soundtrack actually composed and produced -- an original one that
> DOESN'T require licensing 20 pieces of music from 20 different sources
> -- you're playing on an entirely different field than most of us.
>

I have no idea what the money arrangement is/was - Maybe the people on
the soundtrack are getting a cut of the book sales? He spoke a bit
about how he got REM to do a song for it and basically went around
Sony to go directly to the guy who wrote the theme song for "Greatest
American Hero" (from the TV series) to get that on the soundtrack. It
is certainly an awful lot of additional work to arrange - but it also
was a pretty interesting idea (IMO).

When we did a book trailer Michael composed some music for the
background using one of the free on-line sites. Alot easier to do 60
seconds than many hours. I know that when writing having the right
music helps and I would think that reading would be the same way.

--
Robin
The Crown Conspiracy (Sep 2008), Avempartha (Apr 2009)
www.michaelsullivan-author.com

Mike Schilling

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Oct 2, 2008, 2:27:02 PM10/2/08
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Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote:
>
> I write mine with a soundtrack in mind. In fact, often details of
> the
> plot don't come alive in my head until I associate some piece of
> music
> with them.
>
> However, the licensing fees to actually PRODUCE my soundtrack would
> be
> killer.

Hmmm. Suppose you mentioned the songs in an introduction, but left it
up to the user to iTunes them? (Surely no reader of yours would play
so fast-and-loose as to acquire them by less legal means.)


Andrew Plotkin

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Oct 2, 2008, 3:28:43 PM10/2/08
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I've read several books that do this. (I think Elizabeth Bear is prone
to it. I'd have to go look.)

But my connection to pop music is somewhere between tenuous and
tenebrous, so I've never seen such a list that contained any music
that I *knew*.

Although the list usually appears in an epilogue, instead of up front.
Yes, that does seem counterproductive to the goal of having the reader
actually listen to the tracks as she reads. Or even to have them in
mind.

--Z

--
"And Aholibamah bare Jeush, and Jaalam, and Korah: these were the borogoves..."
*
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Anthony Nance

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Oct 2, 2008, 3:36:25 PM10/2/08
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Andrew Plotkin <erky...@eblong.com> wrote:
> Here, Mike Schilling <mscotts...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote:
>> >
>> > I write mine with a soundtrack in mind. In fact, often details of
>> > the
>> > plot don't come alive in my head until I associate some piece of
>> > music with them.
>> >
>> > However, the licensing fees to actually PRODUCE my soundtrack would
>> > be killer.
>>
>> Hmmm. Suppose you mentioned the songs in an introduction, but left it
>> up to the user to iTunes them? (Surely no reader of yours would play
>> so fast-and-loose as to acquire them by less legal means.)
>
> I've read several books that do this. (I think Elizabeth Bear is prone
> to it. I'd have to go look.)
>
> But my connection to pop music is somewhere between tenuous and
> tenebrous, so I've never seen such a list that contained any music
> that I *knew*.
>
> Although the list usually appears in an epilogue, instead of up front.
> Yes, that does seem counterproductive to the goal of having the reader
> actually listen to the tracks as she reads. Or even to have them in
> mind.

I think Stephen King wrote something where each chapter started with
a song lyric. Some chapters, the relevant song stayed in my head for
a little while as I read, but never for long.

The soundtrack idea seems interesting, but unless you're using
background/mood music on some type of loop, it seems as though
timing and distraction (from the written work) could be problems.

Tony

Joel Olson

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Oct 2, 2008, 5:51:18 PM10/2/08
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"Robin Sullivan" <robin.su...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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In the future, the music will be keyed to the turning of the page.

Gene

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"Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> rote in news:gc329l
$shf$1...@registered.motzarella.org:

> I write mine with a soundtrack in mind. In fact, often details of the
> plot don't come alive in my head until I associate some piece of music
> with them.

I've heard that Richard Brautigan wrote Trout Fishing in America while
playing the Shostakovich 5th symphony over and over. After it was published,
a folk-rock duo took its name from the book.

Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)

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Oct 2, 2008, 5:15:07 PM10/2/08
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Mike Schilling wrote:
> Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote:
>> I write mine with a soundtrack in mind. In fact, often details of
>> the
>> plot don't come alive in my head until I associate some piece of
>> music
>> with them.
>>
>> However, the licensing fees to actually PRODUCE my soundtrack would
>> be
>> killer.
>
> Hmmm. Suppose you mentioned the songs in an introduction, but left it
> up to the user to iTunes them?

75% of them are probably unavailable on iTunes. Here, I'll list the
current soundtrack for Grand Central Arena, my forthcoming space opera:

1) I Look Up At The Sky Because You Are There (OP version) -- WILD ARMS:
The 4th Detonation OST
2) Fantasia Alla Marcia for Piano, Chorus, and Orchestra -- Kingdom
Hearts OST
3) Prologue from "Dirge of Cerberus" -- Dirge of Cerberus OST
4) "Mars, Bringer of War" -- Holst's "The Planets" -- Trimmed version
(last portion)
5) Silver Surfer Theme -- Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer OST
6) Hymn -- Vangelis
7) Gothic Power -- Christopher Field (LotR FotR Trailer Music)
8) The Blade Seeker -- Soul Calibur III OST
9) Trigger Situation -- Dirge of Cerberus OST
10 Passion (Kingdom Orchestral Version) -- Kingdom Hearts OST
11) Airwolf (main theme) -- Airwolf/Knight Rider CD
12) I Look Up At The Sky Because You Are There (Long Version) -- WILD
ARMS: The 4th Detonation OST
13) What Shall We Die For -- Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End OST
14) The Battle of Your Soul -- Xenosaga III OST CD 1
15) Spirit VS Spirit (Day of Destiny/Unmei no Hi) -- Dragonball Z
16) Hope of the Future -- Dirge of Cerberus OST
17) Ruroni Kenshin ED -- Ruroni Kenshin OST


I make it maybe 4 or 5 of 17 tracks that you MIGHT be able to iTunes,
others that you'd either have to find illicit sites or purchase CDs
ranging from somewhat expensive imports to Virtually F'ing Impossible to
obtain.


> (Surely no reader of yours would play
> so fast-and-loose as to acquire them by less legal means.)
>

Oh, certainly not. Never.

Stephen Graham

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Oct 2, 2008, 5:24:45 PM10/2/08
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Tangentially, I know of at least one board wargame where the game title
and all scenario titles are era-appropriate rock/folk tracks: GMT's
Downtown. There isn't a complete correlation between the date of the
scenario and the initial release date for the song, unfortunately.

31.3 Track Listing

For the authentic Downtown experience, spin these discs while you play
the game.

Downtown, Petula Clark 1964
Surfin� Bird, The Trashmen 1964
Here, There and Everywhere, The Beatles 1966
You Keep Me Hangin� On, The Supremes 1966
All Tomorrow�s Parties, The Velvet Underground and Nico 1967
Fall On You, Moby Grape 1967
I Wish It Would Rain, The Temptations 1967
The Match Game, Otis Redding 1967
Respect, Aretha Franklin 1967
Spirit in the Sky, Norman Greenbaum 1967, 1970
The Wheel of Hurt, Margaret Whiting 1967
Beginnings, Chicago Transit Authority 1969
Graveyard Train, Creedence Clearwater Revival 1969
The Dust Blows Forward �n the Dust Blows Back, Captain Beefheart and his
Magic Band 1970
What�s Going On, Marvin Gaye 1971
Thick as a Brick, Jethro Tull 1972
Smoke on the Water, Deep Purple 1972
Superfly, Curtis Mayfield 1972
Walk on the Wild Side, Lou Reed 1972
Will the Circle be Unbroken, Nitty Gritty Dirt Band 1972
Where Are You Now, My Son? Joan Baez 1973

Brenda Clough

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Oct 2, 2008, 6:18:44 PM10/2/08
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That's essentially what I have done.

Brenda

Anthony Nance

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Oct 3, 2008, 8:27:34 AM10/3/08
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Stephen Graham <gra...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> Mike Schilling wrote:
>> Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote:
>>> I write mine with a soundtrack in mind. In fact, often details of
>>> the
>>> plot don't come alive in my head until I associate some piece of
>>> music
>>> with them.
>>>
>>> However, the licensing fees to actually PRODUCE my soundtrack would
>>> be
>>> killer.
>>
>> Hmmm. Suppose you mentioned the songs in an introduction, but left it
>> up to the user to iTunes them? (Surely no reader of yours would play
>> so fast-and-loose as to acquire them by less legal means.)
>
> Tangentially, I know of at least one board wargame where the game title
> and all scenario titles are era-appropriate rock/folk tracks: GMT's
> Downtown. There isn't a complete correlation between the date of the
> scenario and the initial release date for the song, unfortunately.
>
> 31.3 Track Listing
>
> For the authentic Downtown experience, spin these discs while you play
> the game.
>
> <snip fun list>


I don't know squat about the game, but I'd have a great time
listening to that collection of songs.

Tony
P.S.#1 While I prefer the Supremes version of YKMHO, the Vanilla Fudge
version is worth hearing in a funny-good way - it's heavier, and
over-dramatic in places, not quite a parody, and the core song
is so good that it somehow works.
P.S.#2 All of Thick as a Brick, or some partial amount?

Stephen Graham

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Oct 3, 2008, 12:15:47 PM10/3/08
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Anthony Nance wrote:

> P.S.#2 All of Thick as a Brick, or some partial amount?

Oh, all of it. The game will take long enough to listen to the entire
thing a couple of times.

Robin Sullivan

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Oct 3, 2008, 12:26:55 PM10/3/08
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On Oct 2, 5:24 pm, Stephen Graham <grah...@speakeasy.net> wrote:

> 31.3 Track Listing
>
> For the authentic Downtown experience, spin these discs while you play
> the game.
>
> Downtown, Petula Clark 1964

> Surfin’ Bird, The Trashmen 1964


> Here, There and Everywhere, The Beatles 1966

> You Keep Me Hangin’ On, The Supremes 1966
> All Tomorrow’s Parties, The Velvet Underground and Nico 1967


> Fall On You, Moby Grape 1967
> I Wish It Would Rain, The Temptations 1967
> The Match Game, Otis Redding 1967
> Respect, Aretha Franklin 1967
> Spirit in the Sky, Norman Greenbaum 1967, 1970
> The Wheel of Hurt, Margaret Whiting 1967
> Beginnings, Chicago Transit Authority 1969
> Graveyard Train, Creedence Clearwater Revival 1969

> The Dust Blows Forward ‘n the Dust Blows Back, Captain Beefheart and his
> Magic Band 1970
> What’s Going On, Marvin Gaye 1971


> Thick as a Brick, Jethro Tull 1972
> Smoke on the Water, Deep Purple 1972
> Superfly, Curtis Mayfield 1972
> Walk on the Wild Side, Lou Reed 1972
> Will the Circle be Unbroken, Nitty Gritty Dirt Band 1972
> Where Are You Now, My Son? Joan Baez 1973

Wow this is a great list of songs - most of them are already favorites
and the few that aren't are worth a better look!

Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)

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Oct 3, 2008, 1:32:51 PM10/3/08
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Robin Sullivan wrote:
> On Oct 2, 5:24 pm, Stephen Graham <grah...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>
>> 31.3 Track Listing
>>
>> For the authentic Downtown experience, spin these discs while you play
>> the game.
[...]

>
> Wow this is a great list of songs - most of them are already favorites
> and the few that aren't are worth a better look!

This exhibits one of the major problems with doing a soundtrack for a
book. Different tastes and habits. Most of those songs I don't
particularly like to begin with, and much more importantly vocals (at
least in my own language) tend to be terrible soundtrack choices as the
words interfere with my ability to write or read. The language part of
my brain tries to understand them. You'll note that mine are almost all
instrumental, and those that aren't are in another language.

(One of my current pet peeves: "soundtracks" from movies that turn out
to be a bunch of songs by third-rate bands that might have been heard
vaguely in the background for two seconds, while the REAL soundtrack --
the music used as mood and action during the movie -- isn't available
anywhere)

Joseph Nebus

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Oct 3, 2008, 9:47:56 PM10/3/08
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"Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> writes:

> 75% of them are probably unavailable on iTunes. Here, I'll list the
>current soundtrack for Grand Central Arena, my forthcoming space opera:

>1) I Look Up At The Sky Because You Are There (OP version) -- WILD ARMS:
>The 4th Detonation OST

Is it this song ---
http://songza.com/z/7aze4s
--- and if it is, good, because that web site searches for very many
songs and allows listening free. It *claims* to be paying their
tribute to the Overlords of the RIAA and therefore one shouldn't be
too conscience-striken about the legality of it all, and I don't know
of specific reasons to believe this isn't true.

>2) Fantasia Alla Marcia for Piano, Chorus, and Orchestra -- Kingdom
>Hearts OST

http://songza.com/z/cy9ona

>3) Prologue from "Dirge of Cerberus" -- Dirge of Cerberus OST

http://songza.com/z/ho7pb6

>4) "Mars, Bringer of War" -- Holst's "The Planets" -- Trimmed version
>(last portion)

Well, anyone who can't find 'Mars, The Bringer Of War' isn't
trying. Or watching any space-themed movie ever. But
http://songza.com/z/pr98r8
is at least one take, possibly not trimmed as you want.

>5) Silver Surfer Theme -- Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer OST

http://songza.com/z/kextas

>6) Hymn -- Vangelis

http://songza.com/z/jtqo0u

>7) Gothic Power -- Christopher Field (LotR FotR Trailer Music)

Can't find it offhand.

>8) The Blade Seeker -- Soul Calibur III OST

http://songza.com/z/a058ku

>9) Trigger Situation -- Dirge of Cerberus OST

http://songza.com/z/it5557

>10 Passion (Kingdom Orchestral Version) -- Kingdom Hearts OST

http://songza.com/z/fdfvwv

>11) Airwolf (main theme) -- Airwolf/Knight Rider CD

http://songza.com/z/lhzt0d

>12) I Look Up At The Sky Because You Are There (Long Version) -- WILD
>ARMS: The 4th Detonation OST

I can't find this specifically, but there are a couple of
links with the same title that the songza search engine finds.

>13) What Shall We Die For -- Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End OST

http://songza.com/z/3ghuml

>14) The Battle of Your Soul -- Xenosaga III OST CD 1

http://songza.com/z/8cqed4

>15) Spirit VS Spirit (Day of Destiny/Unmei no Hi) -- Dragonball Z

http://songza.com/z/hntlge

>16) Hope of the Future -- Dirge of Cerberus OST

http://songza.com/z/6r02f0

>17) Ruroni Kenshin ED -- Ruroni Kenshin OST

http://songza.com/z/43zdvd
(I'm guessing on this one.)

>> (Surely no reader of yours would play
>> so fast-and-loose as to acquire them by less legal means.)

> Oh, certainly not. Never.

I'd certainly not recommend using any method which one knew was
illegal. One that asserts it does pay the copyright owners would be
different, of course.

--
Joseph Nebus
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Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)

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Joseph Nebus wrote:
> "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> writes:
>
>> 75% of them are probably unavailable on iTunes. Here, I'll list the
>> current soundtrack for Grand Central Arena, my forthcoming space opera:
>
>> 1) I Look Up At The Sky Because You Are There (OP version) -- WILD ARMS:
>> The 4th Detonation OST
>
> Is it this song ---
> http://songza.com/z/7aze4s

It is that song, if you consider "badly MIDI'd Muzak version" to be the
same as the original. I don't.

> --- and if it is, good, because that web site searches for very many
> songs and allows listening free.

For that version, "free" is far too expensive. That's minutes of my
life it just hurt my ears with.

It *claims* to be paying their
> tribute to the Overlords of the RIAA and therefore one shouldn't be
> too conscience-striken about the legality of it all, and I don't know
> of specific reasons to believe this isn't true.


I'd be somewhat suspicious given that some of these things aren't
AVAILABLE in the USA.

>
>> 2) Fantasia Alla Marcia for Piano, Chorus, and Orchestra -- Kingdom
>> Hearts OST
>
> http://songza.com/z/cy9ona

That's the original.

>
>> 3) Prologue from "Dirge of Cerberus" -- Dirge of Cerberus OST
>
> http://songza.com/z/ho7pb6

So is this.

>
>> 4) "Mars, Bringer of War" -- Holst's "The Planets" -- Trimmed version
>> (last portion)
>
> Well, anyone who can't find 'Mars, The Bringer Of War' isn't
> trying. Or watching any space-themed movie ever.

I said there were maybe 4 tracks that you could iTunes. This is one of
them.


>
>> 5) Silver Surfer Theme -- Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer OST
>
> http://songza.com/z/kextas

This one is also iTunesable.

>
>> 6) Hymn -- Vangelis
>
> http://songza.com/z/jtqo0u

I wouldn't be surprised if you can get this on iTunes.

>
>> 7) Gothic Power -- Christopher Field (LotR FotR Trailer Music)
>
> Can't find it offhand.

Took me until last year to find a good copy.


>
>> 11) Airwolf (main theme) -- Airwolf/Knight Rider CD
>
> http://songza.com/z/lhzt0d

Eew. Cheesy electronic version. You need the real brass horn orchestral
version. Which AFAIK was released on one CD, produced in Japan, back in
the day when Airwolf either was on the air, or had just gone off the
air. It was produced in limited quantities and I have seen exactly one
copy of it in my lifetime -- fortunately owned by an actual living
breathing friend of mine who gave me this wonderful gift.

>
>> 12) I Look Up At The Sky Because You Are There (Long Version) -- WILD
>> ARMS: The 4th Detonation OST
>
> I can't find this specifically, but there are a couple of
> links with the same title that the songza search engine finds.

If they're as bad as the first, don't touch it with a 20 foot pole.

>
>> 13) What Shall We Die For -- Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End OST
>
> http://songza.com/z/3ghuml

iTunes. I bought the soundtracks for this, Fantastic Four, and a few
other movies on iTunes.

>
>> 14) The Battle of Your Soul -- Xenosaga III OST CD 1
>
> http://songza.com/z/8cqed4

That's the real one.

>
>> 15) Spirit VS Spirit (Day of Destiny/Unmei no Hi) -- Dragonball Z
>
> http://songza.com/z/hntlge

Surprising. That IS the real one. And I doubt VERY seriously they have
the rights to that. VERY seriously. It was released on one (1) of the
dozens of DB/DBZ CDs, years ago, and only re-released on one (1)
additional CD a year or three ago. Neither are available, AFAIK, in the USA.

>
>> 16) Hope of the Future -- Dirge of Cerberus OST
>
> http://songza.com/z/6r02f0
>
>> 17) Ruroni Kenshin ED -- Ruroni Kenshin OST
>
> http://songza.com/z/43zdvd

Not the one I want (there's three or four; I don't know the actual
title of the song.) It is an original, though.

> (I'm guessing on this one.)
>
>
>
>>> (Surely no reader of yours would play
>>> so fast-and-loose as to acquire them by less legal means.)
>
>> Oh, certainly not. Never.
>
> I'd certainly not recommend using any method which one knew was
> illegal. One that asserts it does pay the copyright owners would be
> different, of course.
>


But the assertion was you could just iTunes them, which you can't.
Searching online to see if, maybe, the stuff you want IS online, and
determining if it's the actual song in question, that's a LOT more
burden to be putting on your readers. Aside from the "is it LEGAL to get
it from this site" question.

This "songza" site may claim to pay its dues, but I'm not sure -- and
it doesn't appear to provide clear demarcation between the real deal and
some knockoff clone of a piece of music.

Mark Zenier

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In article <gc5khb$ki2$1...@registered.motzarella.org>,
Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
>..., and much more importantly vocals (at

>least in my own language) tend to be terrible soundtrack choices as the
>words interfere with my ability to write or read. The language part of
>my brain tries to understand them. You'll note that mine are almost all
>instrumental, and those that aren't are in another language.
>
> (One of my current pet peeves: "soundtracks" from movies that turn out
>to be a bunch of songs by third-rate bands that might have been heard
>vaguely in the background for two seconds, while the REAL soundtrack --
>the music used as mood and action during the movie -- isn't available
>anywhere)

Play the DVD with an alternate language (that you don't understand).
(I've run _Waterworld_ in French as background music).

Mark Zenier mze...@eskimo.com
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

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Thomas Womack

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In article <gcanl...@enews5.newsguy.com>,
Mark Zenier <mze...@eskimo.com> wrote:

>Play the DVD with an alternate language (that you don't understand).
>(I've run _Waterworld_ in French as background music).

This is like my discovery that the Hindi local radio channel is almost
perfect background music for the gym; nice twangy music with sonorous and
utterly incomprehensible lyrics.

Tom

Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)

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Oct 5, 2008, 2:28:35 PM10/5/08
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That doesn't help me get the tracks I want so I can put them in my
iTunes and make my own soundtrack, though. If I want the music, I don't
want dialogue, and I only want certain tracks. Sometimes only ONE track,
which is why I love the modern music era; I can go to iTunes and buy ONE
track from a movie soundtrack, because it's the only one I really want,
rather than buying the whole thing.

Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)

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Oct 5, 2008, 2:30:19 PM10/5/08
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Omixochitl wrote:
> "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote in
> news:gc5khb$ki2$1...@registered.motzarella.org:
>
>> (One of my current pet peeves: "soundtracks" from movies that
>> turn out
>> to be a bunch of songs by third-rate bands that might have been heard
>> vaguely in the background for two seconds, while the REAL soundtrack
>> -- the music used as mood and action during the movie -- isn't
>> available anywhere)
>
> I thought that was the difference between a movie's soundrack and its
> musical score. I agree, scores can be way cooler. :)

Back in my day,(*bangs cane on ground*) "soundtrack" was the music from
the movie. period. You simply didn't HAVE this third-rate band plugging
crap which never showed up in the movie except in the credits, or maybe
as a snippet in the background when the characters walk into a bar.

Peter Meilinger

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On Oct 5, 11:30 am, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
<seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:

> Back in my day,(*bangs cane on ground*) "soundtrack" was the music from
> the movie. period. You simply didn't HAVE this third-rate band plugging
> crap which never showed up in the movie except in the credits, or maybe
> as a snippet in the background when the characters walk into a bar.

I do remember getting a bad feeling the first time
I noticed a soundtrack that said "Music from and
inspired by..." And yeah, it's only gotten worse.

Jacey Bedford

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In message <gc329l$shf$1...@registered.motzarella.org>, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E.
Spoor)" <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> writes

>Robin Sullivan wrote:
>> Hey All,
>> I've been crazy swamped so not on the forum the last few days...But
>>
>> went to the 2008 National Book Festival in downtown DC over the
>> weekend. One of the things I found really neat was that Brad Meltzer
>> (who is quite a good speaker btw) put a soundtrack in his most recent
>> Novel "Book of Lies". I thought that was kind of a neat idea -
>> especially for SF stuff that tends to be very "Visual" in it's style
>> that having music that goes along with each chapter would add an extra
>> dimension to the story.
>> One person did bring up -- well what if you read slow - so not sure
>> how that works - I also don't have the book so I'm not sure if it is
>> one song per chapter or not. But anyway I thought this was
>> interesting. Does anyone have any thoughts on whether they think this
>> is good or bad?
>
> I write mine with a soundtrack in mind. In fact, often details
>of the plot don't come alive in my head until I associate some piece of
>music with them.
>
> However, the licensing fees to actually PRODUCE my soundtrack
>would be killer.
>
> If you have the money, time, and resources to have a separate
>soundtrack actually composed and produced -- an original one that
>DOESN'T require licensing 20 pieces of music from 20 different sources
>-- you're playing on an entirely different field than most of us.
>

Yes, licensing can be hugely expensive, but need not be and some record
companies are open to negotiation.

Original music is one way to go.
>
Anne McCaffrey commissioned Tania Opland and Mike Freeman to do a CD of
original music to accompany her Master Harper of Pern.
Http://members.aol.com/opland2/perncd.htm

And I believe they are in the process of making a second CD now.

Jacey
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Jacey Bedford

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Oct 7, 2008, 8:29:07 AM10/7/08
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In message <Xns9B2B8957ED059ge...@207.115.17.102>, Gene
<ge...@chewbacca.org> writes

And very good they are, too. We played with them at a festival in Canada
a few years ago.
http://www.troutmusic.com/

Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)

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Oct 7, 2008, 9:03:56 AM10/7/08
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While Anne isn't J.K. Rowling, I suspect she does, as I said, play on a

different field than most of us.

And the soundtrack for any book *I* write would have to be written by
Giacchino, Williams, Badelt, Zimmer, Howard, or someone like that, and
performed by a full symphony orchestra.

I suspect that lies, not merely out of my regular budget, but beyond my
budget were I to sell my house, all my inherited assets, and use my
entire year's salary to boot.

Jacey Bedford

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Oct 8, 2008, 8:03:33 AM10/8/08
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In message <gcfm8v$civ$1...@registered.motzarella.org>, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E.
Spoor)" <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> writes

>> Original music is one way to go.
>>>
>> Anne McCaffrey commissioned Tania Opland and Mike Freeman to do a CD
>>of original music to accompany her Master Harper of Pern.
>> Http://members.aol.com/opland2/perncd.htm
>>
>
> While Anne isn't J.K. Rowling, I suspect she does, as I said,
>play on a different field than most of us.


Yes, she does, but I happen to know that this was not a big budget
production - though you probably can't tell that from listening (other
than the fact it doesn't have the London Philharmonic on it). The music
suits the book which - being harpers and all that - has folky
instruments on it (and voices).

Robin Sullivan

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Oct 8, 2008, 11:31:10 AM10/8/08
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On Oct 7, 8:14 am, Jacey Bedford <lookin...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>
> Anne McCaffrey commissioned Tania Opland and Mike Freeman to do a CD of
> original music to accompany her Master Harper of Pern.
> Http://members.aol.com/opland2/perncd.htm
>
> And I believe they are in the process of making a second CD now.
>
> Jacey

Wow I didn't realize Anne McCaffrey did CD's with her books - I'll
have to look into this.

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