Star Wars Episode VII, a possibility
Ranger07
Star Wars. There are many stories that can be told in new movies, Lucas
can make & should make Episode 7, 8 & 9.
In a review by Roger Bert on his website
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050519/REVIEWS/50503002/1023
he said that Fox will think of making new episodes. Even if Lucas
didn't want to direct the new movies, there are others who can, let not
forget that the best Star Wars movie; Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire
Strikes Back was directed by Irvin Kershner,not by Lucas
frenchy
for this being such a dark movie AND us all pretty much already knowing
the outcome before we walkied into the theater. ROTJ was supposed to
be last one once too, so anything is possible, and since I assume 7
would start off with fresh new characters and stories... bring it on!
C'Pi
> After I saw Star Wars Episode III,I can't believe that this the end of
> Star Wars. There are many stories that can be told in new movies,
> Lucas can make & should make Episode 7, 8 & 9.
>
> In a review by Roger Bert on his website
>
> http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050519/REVIEWS/50503002/1023
>
> he said that Fox will think of making new episodes.
They can think about it all they want, and I'm sure they have. But that's
all they can do, think about it and dream.
--
C'Pi
"It's because of men like you that all must be destroyed."
Skuzz the Merciless
"Ranger07" <lone_r...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> After I saw Star Wars Episode III,I can't believe that this the end of
> Star Wars. There are many stories that can be told in new movies, Lucas
> can make & should make Episode 7, 8 & 9.
>
> In a review by Roger Bert on his website
>
>
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050519/REVIEWS/50503002/1023
>
> he said that Fox will think of making new episodes.
He forgets that, unlike movie franchises today, Fox has no rights to Star
Wars movies (or anything else) exept the first one.
--
Skuzz the Merciless
"It's easy to sit there and want money. That's it, just sitting there...
wanting that money" -Jack Handey
Mike Ward
third trilogy. (Yes, I am serious.)
Mike
Anybody
<levesqueS...@memNOTTHISPARTlane.com> wrote:
> "Ranger07" <lone_r...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1117203534.7...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > After I saw Star Wars Episode III,I can't believe that this the end of
> > Star Wars. There are many stories that can be told in new movies, Lucas
> > can make & should make Episode 7, 8 & 9.
> >
> > In a review by Roger Bert on his website
>
> http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050519/REVIEWS/505
> 03002/1023
> >
> > he said that Fox will think of making new episodes.
>
> He forgets that, unlike movie franchises today, Fox has no rights to Star
> Wars movies (or anything else) exept the first one.
Yep. Plus the fact that there are no more episodes to the story of
Anakin Skywalker. It would be possible to make more movies, but like
the Ewok movies they would be spin-offs, not "Episodes" within this
saga.
Chris Schumacher
news:1117203534.7...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
> After I saw Star Wars Episode III,I can't believe that this the end of
> Star Wars. There are many stories that can be told in new movies, Lucas
> can make & should make Episode 7, 8 & 9.
>
There was an old issue of Bantha Tracks (we're talking pre-ROTJ here) where
Lucas mentioned that the third trilogy will follows the adventures of a
character who was in the prequels, but fell out of sight during the main
trilogy.
Yes, folks, the next three movies will center around Jar-Jar. :)
Here's the quote:
SW: At one point there were going to be twelve Star Wars films.
GL: I cut that number down to nine because the other three were tangential
to the saga. Star Wars was the fourth story in the saga and was to have
been called "Star Wars, Episode IV: A New Hope." But I decided people
wouldn't understand the numbering system so we dropped it. For Empire,
though, we're putting back the number and will call it "Episode V: The
Empire Strikes Back." After the third film in this trilogy we'll go back
and make the first trilogy, which deals with the young Ben Kenobi and the
young Darth Vader.
SW: What is the third trilogy about?
GL: It deals with the character that survives Star Wars III and his
adventures.
I got it from this site:
http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/movie_news/archive_1998_aug.htm, but it is
quoted countless other times elsewhere, so it seems to be genuine.
-==Kensu==-
frenchy
the ground.....
Chris Schumacher
@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> Come to think of it, we didn't actually SEE Samuel L. Jacksons body hit
> the ground.....
>
>
I'd watch that... One-armed Mace Windu, young Leia Organa, the early
rebellion. I was really pissed we only saw Alderaan for something like five
seconds in the whole series (probably around a minute-and-a-half if you
include the time we saw it in ANH).
-==Kensu==-
Anybody
Schumacher <ken...@hotmail.com> wrote:
According to the latest eJunk that arrived yesterday there's a whole
topic on Mac at StarWars.com ...
No Proof that Windu Dies
http://forums.starwars.com/thread.jspa?threadID=220218
Ken Maeda
Chris Schumacher wrote:
> I'd watch that... One-armed Mace Windu, young Leia Organa, the early
> rebellion. I was really pissed we only saw Alderaan for something like five
> seconds in the whole series (probably around a minute-and-a-half if you
> include the time we saw it in ANH).
I think if they shown Alderaan any more than they did, its absence in
ANH would've stuck out even more than it already is now.
But unless Mace landed on a trampoline or a garbage bin full of foam
peanuts, I'd say he's dead. Of course, if this scenario did happen, and
he just got up and dusted himself off, that would've made for a great
post-end-credit epilogue.
"I *knew* Anakin couldn't be trusted..." <fade to black>
Ken
jelly
"frenchy" <mf10...@msn.com> wrote in message
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> Well Lucas redeemed himself with me on this one for sure,
Hardly, ROTS felt rushed, and had too much CGI, nothing really amazing ws
revealed thatthe public didn't already know and aside from a few scenes here
and there I would say ROTS stunk.
> especially
> for this being such a dark movie AND us all pretty much already knowing
> the outcome before we walkied into the theater. ROTJ was supposed to
> be last one once too, so anything is possible, and since I assume 7
> would start off with fresh new characters and stories... bring it on!
I think he should write another prequel (which another qualified person
should direct), but make it like 1000 years prior to the events of the
phantom menace and not even call it star wars, just set it in the same sort
of world. This would give Lucas a chance to come up with similar themes but
wipe the slate clean and allow him to do whatever he wants...Maybe recreate
the magic of the original star wars.
Anybody
"Ken Maeda" <kma...@att.net> wrote:
> Chris Schumacher wrote:
> > I'd watch that... One-armed Mace Windu, young Leia Organa, the early
> > rebellion. I was really pissed we only saw Alderaan for something like five
> > seconds in the whole series (probably around a minute-and-a-half if you
> > include the time we saw it in ANH).
>
> I think if they shown Alderaan any more than they did, its absence in
> ANH would've stuck out even more than it already is now.
<snip>
What "absence"?!? There was no need to "visit" Alderaan in ANH, just
like there was no need to visit Hoth, Dagobah, Naboo, Coruscant in the
movies they don't happen to appear in.
We go Chewie in Episode III for no real reason other than many fans
whining "where is he". Thank goodness George Lucas left out Han Solo.
Ranger07
Skuzz the Merciless wrote:
> He forgets that, unlike movie franchises today, Fox has no rights to Star
> Wars movies (or anything else) exept the first one.
Well,then someone must tell Lucas that we WANT another Star Wars
movie(s). It might follow the story of a new heros facing new enemy; I
don't know. But what I know is, this time around we'll not know the
outcome of the movies beforhand.
Skuzz the Merciless
>
>
> Skuzz the Merciless wrote:
>
> > He forgets that, unlike movie franchises today, Fox has no rights to
Star
> > Wars movies (or anything else) exept the first one.
>
> Well,then someone must tell Lucas that we WANT another Star Wars
> movie(s).
Gee, after so many people were so appreciative of these last 3 movies? I'm
sure he'll get right on it...
--
Skuzz the Merciless
<Insert witty line here>
Ranger07
It doesn't have to be Lucas, ok. There are many good directors out
there who can make a decent Star Wars movie. Again; let not forget that
Ep V: ESB was not made by Lucas.
tr2...@hotmail.com
>peanuts, I'd say he's dead. Of course, if this scenario did happen, and
It is interesting that we never saw Mace Windu die in ROTS, we only saw him
fall out the window of a tall building. But wait...in the Clone Wars cartoon
we _also_ saw Mace Windu fall from way high up...and he survived the fall!
Of course we already know Mace doesn't appear in the next 3 sequels, but
there is an opening for Mace Windu (or other Jedis) to appear in tv spinoffs
and/or EU stories.
Mike Ward
ma...@spiznet.com
was 10 times worse. All internal organs and everything but the brain
smashed beyond repair.
The reason why he survives is he loses his memory and thinks he is a
Storm/Clone Trooper for 20 years. Once the Empire dissolves, he is out
of work, and begins to remember his roots...
...
David B
Lucas isn't interested in other people doing Star Wars movies.
Skuzz the Merciless
>
>
> Skuzz the Merciless wrote:
> > "Ranger07" <lone_r...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1117293112.8...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > >
> > >
> > > Skuzz the Merciless wrote:
> > >
> > > > He forgets that, unlike movie franchises today, Fox has no rights to
> > Star
> > > > Wars movies (or anything else) exept the first one.
> > >
> > > Well,then someone must tell Lucas that we WANT another Star Wars
> > > movie(s).
> >
> > Gee, after so many people were so appreciative of these last 3 movies?
I'm
> > sure he'll get right on it...
> >
> > --
> > Skuzz the Merciless
> > <Insert witty line here>
>
> It doesn't have to be Lucas, ok.
It does. It has to be made by Lucas, even if he doesn't do everything
himself.
> There are many good directors out
> there who can make a decent Star Wars movie.
And tons more who can't.And that's not counting deluded Fanboys.
> Again; let not forget that
> Ep V: ESB was not made by Lucas.
It wasn't? you mean Kasdan and Kirshner created it from scratch? Holy shit!
Hell, even if that were true, according to those absurd standards, episode 4
WAS 'made by Lucas', and it's a classic.
But the fact remains that George is not likely to put his life on hold for
ten more years to do more movies, and the films start and end with him.
Justin Bacon
ma...@spiznet.com wrote:
> And you think the Vader suit is extreme, the suit they needed for Mace
> was 10 times worse. All internal organs and everything but the brain
> smashed beyond repair.
Because we've never, ever seen Jedi survive falls from great heights.
Not Qui-Gon, not Obi-Wan (multiple times), not Anakin, not Luke. Nope.
Never happened.
--
Justin Bacon
tria...@aol.com
Oliver J. Hanau
> Because we've never, ever seen Jedi survive falls from great heights.
> Not Qui-Gon, not Obi-Wan (multiple times), not Anakin, not Luke.
> Nope.
> Never happened.
We've seen Anakin jump down a cliff in AOTC, and Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan
jump from the ventilation shaft in the Trade Fedaration cruiser in TPM.
Probably not quite the kind of great height Mace is falling (plus the
lack of mental/"Forcal" preparation), but both are not things the
average human would survive, much less do quite casually.
Oliver.
Zed
Plus, none of the others looked like
Halley's Comet when they fell.
> Oliver.
-Z
Jack Thomas
"jelly" <je...@home.com> wrote in message
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Robbie Whinelan, I knew it was you all along.
Justin Bacon
We also saw Anakin leap from an aircar to land almost effortlessly on a
speeding aircar several hundred stories below him. Luke flings himself
down the central shaft of Cloud City without any apparent problem.
And in AOTC, on Kamino, we also see Obi-Wan demonstrate how a
standard-issue Jedi kit can be used in combination with the Force to
catch yourself short of a more serious fall.
I can imagine all *sorts* of scenarios in which Mace survives, albeit
badly injured (although that would be more from the Force lightning
than the fall). I can even take it one step further and imagine some
fairly interesting stories involving a post-ROTS Mace, starting with
the amnesiac Jedi wandering the tunnels beneath Coruscant and moving on
from there.
--
Justin Bacon
tria...@aol.com
Ken Maeda
Anybody wrote:
> > I think if they shown Alderaan any more than they did, its absence in
> > ANH would've stuck out even more than it already is now.
> <snip>
>
> What "absence"?!? There was no need to "visit" Alderaan in ANH, just
> like there was no need to visit Hoth, Dagobah, Naboo, Coruscant in the
> movies they don't happen to appear in.
I'd think that if you were gonna show a planet about to get blown up, a
planet that was the home of Bail and Leia, *maybe* we'd see some
reaction to their impending doom. Or at least see Bail again. And it
did show up in the radio drama (probably as filler, granted), so
Alderaan wasn't seen as *completely* inconsequential.
I know that if they'd shot such a scene, it'd probably be
Godzilla-like, but looking at it now, its destruction almost comes off
as impersonal.
> We go Chewie in Episode III for no real reason other than many fans
> whining "where is he".
I really doubt Lucas went to the trouble of bringing him back just to
appease them. Maybe he did it for the fans, but not because of them.
> Thank goodness George Lucas left out Han Solo.
Agreed. But he thought about it, unfortunately.
Ken
Ken Maeda
Justin Bacon wrote:
> We also saw Anakin leap from an aircar to land almost effortlessly on a
> speeding aircar several hundred stories below him. Luke flings himself
> down the central shaft of Cloud City without any apparent problem.
>
> And in AOTC, on Kamino, we also see Obi-Wan demonstrate how a
> standard-issue Jedi kit can be used in combination with the Force to
> catch yourself short of a more serious fall.
>
> I can imagine all *sorts* of scenarios in which Mace survives, albeit
> badly injured (although that would be more from the Force lightning
> than the fall). I can even take it one step further and imagine some
> fairly interesting stories involving a post-ROTS Mace, starting with
> the amnesiac Jedi wandering the tunnels beneath Coruscant and moving on
> from there.
"He's dead, son. Accept it."
Man... first Boba, now Mace?
Ken
Justin Bacon
I see that someone's not familiar with the "if there's no body, then
they're not dead" principle. Despite the fact that Lucas had someone
say it *explicitly* in REVENGE.
--
Justin Bacon
tria...@aol.com
Ken Maeda
Justin Bacon wrote:
> I see that someone's not familiar with the "if there's no body, then
> they're not dead" principle.
I've heard that associated with, say, "The X-Files," yes.
Jackson seems to think Mace died. Lucas seems to think so. Did we
really have to see Mace landing on a concrete sidewalk with bones
breaking and blood spilling? Doesn't it take away from Anakin's
transformation if all he did was help give Mace nothing more than a
concussion or a chipped tooth? If there was any doubt about Mace's
survival, why didn't Sidious send troops after him to finish him off?
Seems like a big fish to let get away.
> Despite the fact that Lucas had someone
> say it *explicitly* in REVENGE.
Well, Yoda wasn't getting the KFC treatment before falling.
Ken
Cheeze
Mace Windu being dead or alive is not an answerable question.
Even if he did die, maybe he can rise again from the dead.
Justin Bacon
Ken Maeda wrote:
> Justin Bacon wrote:
> > I see that someone's not familiar with the "if there's no body, then
> > they're not dead" principle.
>
> I've heard that associated with, say, "The X-Files," yes.
It actually dates back to superhero comics.
> Did we
> really have to see Mace landing on a concrete sidewalk with bones
> breaking and blood spilling? Doesn't it take away from Anakin's
> transformation if all he did was help give Mace nothing more than a
> concussion or a chipped tooth? If there was any doubt about Mace's
> survival, why didn't Sidious send troops after him to finish him off?
> Seems like a big fish to let get away.
Is it likely Mace is dead? Yes. Is it possible he isn't? Yes.
Violently agreeing with me on the former will not make the latter any
less true.
--
Justin Bacon
tria...@aol.com
Ken Maeda
Justin Bacon wrote:
> > > I see that someone's not familiar with the "if there's no body, then
> > > they're not dead" principle.
> >
> > I've heard that associated with, say, "The X-Files," yes.
>
> It actually dates back to superhero comics.
I forget if it was the X-Files, but there was some franchise that had a
penchant for reviving "dead" characters, to the point that it cheapened
any subsequent deaths. I don't think Star Wars has started down that
path yet, but
I think once Fett "escaped" the Sarlaac, people would start to come up
with crazy theories about how certain fan favorites might've survived,
like Maul after TPM.
> Is it likely Mace is dead? Yes. Is it possible he isn't? Yes.
>
> Violently agreeing with me on the former will not make the latter any
> less true.
Well, I'm just trying to be rational about it instead of screaming at
everyone, "The guy's dead! Move on to the next thread already!!". Fans
shouldn't be getting their hopes up... There's a ton of possibilities
in the SW universe, but we don't discuss them *all* (well, not yet).
And there'll always be endless topics of conversation, but Mace's
survival just doesn't seem worth the time. <shrug>
Ken
C'Pi
>
> Well, I'm just trying to be rational about it instead of screaming at
> everyone, "The guy's dead! Move on to the next thread already!!". Fans
> shouldn't be getting their hopes up... There's a ton of possibilities
> in the SW universe, but we don't discuss them *all* (well, not yet).
> And there'll always be endless topics of conversation, but Mace's
> survival just doesn't seem worth the time. <shrug>
Ah, but will it be worth the money? That's the more important question you
should be asking.
--
C'Pi
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see all of the previews & commercials (DIE ads DIE!) and then LEFT the
*moment* the film was about to start!
At first I thought she was going to tell the idiots in the projection
booth that the film was out of focus (which it was) but I never saw
her again.
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Where his footing was weak, Anakin went out
on a limb to lend a hand with his arms and was
left without a leg to stand on.
frenchy
amazing ws
revealed thatthe public didn't already know and aside from a few scenes
here
and there I would say ROTS stunk. >>
I remember some movie reviewer said Star Wars was 'bubble gum for the
eyes' before I went to see it in '77... fortunately I didn't listen to
HIM either...
Tim Bruening
Tim Bruening
"Oliver J. Hanau" wrote:
Also, Mace was hit by multiple lightening bolts.
Tim Bruening
Justin Bacon wrote:
However, when Jedi Masters die, their bodies disappear, so that principle
wouldn't apply.
Tim Bruening
Cheeze wrote:
> Thing is in a world of fiction, where the Force can explain anything,
> Mace Windu being dead or alive is not an answerable question.
>
> Even if he did die, maybe he can rise again from the dead.
Or pershaps Darth Vader could have Padme's body recovered from Naboo and
rise her from the dead!
Mike Ward
@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us:
Like Luke in ROTJ?
Jack Thomas
"Tim Bruening" <tsbr...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
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No, they don't all disappear Only those that have learned to do so,
disappear.
spiznet
And this "lightening" may have had an gravity-nullifying effect.
He became lighter, and thus had plenty of time to negotiate his way
from car to car or building to building on the way out the window. So
he may have survived.
Tim Bruening
spiznet wrote:
Why would Force lightening bolts (light as in illumination) nullify gravity?
Am I the victim of a pun?
spiznet
spelling error/pun. I just like this thread.
jsa...@ecn.ab.ca
> After I saw Star Wars Episode III,I can't believe that this the end of
> Star Wars. There are many stories that can be told in new movies, Lucas
> can make & should make Episode 7, 8 & 9.
Well, besides the two Ewok movies, and the Ewoks and Droids animated
series, there is going to be a live-action TV series set between
episodes 3 and 4.
It could well be very good, although the fact that the good guys are
doomed to only achieve minor, temporary victories may work against it.
I was going to note that if George Lucas had no sense of decency, no
respect for good taste, he *could* continue the saga with an episode 7
parallelling a certain thread established in the three prequel
episodes...
however, Princess Leia *was* already kidnapped in Episode 6.
However, her marriage to Han Solo was not delayed by her need to prove
herself innocent of robbing a bank... and while Jabba the Hutt appeared
to certainly be interested in *food*, no discernible connection between
him and food banks was established either.
Thus, even though Anakin's fall through attachment parallels Citizen
Kane (as they say, "if you're going to steal, steal from the best"), he
certainly didn't have Patricia Hearst in mind during the making of
Return of the Jedi. Thank heavens!
(As every right-thinking American knows, Orson Wells depicted a major
American newspaper publisher who started out as a liberal, and, like
other liberals who don't have Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost working
for them, became involved in a scandal, but who later saw the error of
his ways and became a conservative, as having had major issues due to
the loss of a silly thing like a sled early in life, and as
subsequently turning to evil - instead of seeing the light - when he
turned conservative. This movie is therefore hailed as the best movie
ever made because Hollywood is filled with liberals (who, don't forget,
often also smoke pot, to the dangers of which he helped alert
America).)
John Savard
frenchy
three others get sliced in half in that fight, and all he does is get
zapped a little and fly out the window... and you see these Jedi
jumping from enormous heights all the time with no adverse effects.
Though the flinging of him out the window served it's purposes to the
casual movie viewer to essentially say "you won't be seeing him anymore
in this movie, folks".