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"The Martian" review by Howard Taylor

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Lynn McGuire

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Oct 4, 2015, 4:06:52 PM10/4/15
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"The Martian" review by Howard Taylor
http://www.schlockmercenary.com/blog/the-martian-movie-review

"I declared that The Martian (novel) was the best hard science fiction
novel I had ever read. It is not a perfect book, but it is an
outstanding book that does "book things" brilliantly."

"I'm now declaring that The Martian, (movie) is the best hard science
fiction movie I have ever seen. It is not a perfect film, but it is an
outstanding film that speaks the way only a film can, and uses the
medium in ways that the very best films do."

Interesting.

Lynn

jack

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Oct 31, 2015, 1:32:55 PM10/31/15
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Interesting in that you agree with the post? Have you read/seen it? Not quite sure myself about the best hard scifi movie, as many commentators have pointed out you can't have Earth-like hurricanes on weak-aired Mars. Enjoyed the movie though.

Lynn McGuire

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Nov 4, 2015, 3:37:46 PM11/4/15
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I have not seen it yet. I found that the review makes me want to go see it.

Lynn

Lynn McGuire

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Nov 10, 2015, 8:57:16 PM11/10/15
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Just went and saw "The Martian" movie with my Dad and my son. Excellent story, just excellent with the message of perseverance in
the face of all adversity. I loved the hard science in the movie, everything in there is achievable with today's science.

Just bring a LOT of cash. I'm hearing $65 trillion for a human to Mars mission. And back.

Lynn

J. Clarke

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Nov 10, 2015, 9:09:12 PM11/10/15
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In article <n1u75i$tit$1...@dont-email.me>, l...@winsim.com says...
And all because NASA and Congress got from the space shuttle the
erroneous message "reusable is more expensive" instead of the correct
message "a half-assed piece of crap is more expensive".

Fortunately Elon Musk wasn't listening.

The only reason it would cost 65 trillion dollars to go to Mars is
because the politicians turn it into a huge pork barrel.

Lynn McGuire

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Nov 10, 2015, 9:40:18 PM11/10/15
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Yup, just like all other federal programs.

BTW, nice, nice, nice spaceship in the movie. Of course, having to spend eight+ months in it both ways, it needs to be large.
Probably at least 200 ft long with solar mirrors and a rotating habitat section so they can live in gravity. Plus the nuclear
reactor for propulsion that has to be far away from the crew quarters.

My son says that if you like the five minutes in the "Apollo 13" movie where they are fixing the spaceship, you will like this movie
because the entire movie is one crisis after the other.

Lynn

Lynn McGuire

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Nov 10, 2015, 9:50:55 PM11/10/15
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Here is a cool picture of the "The Martian" movie Hermes spaceship:
http://www.space.com/30400-the-martian-how-to-stay-alive-on-mars-infographic.html

Lynn

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Nov 10, 2015, 10:55:29 PM11/10/15
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In article <MPG.30ac6d96...@news.eternal-september.org>, J.
Clarke <j.clark...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <n1u75i$tit$1...@dont-email.me>, l...@winsim.com says...
> > On 11/4/2015 2:37 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> > > On 10/31/2015 12:32 PM, jack wrote:
> > >> On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 4:06:52 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> > >>> "The Martian" review by Howard Taylor
> > >>> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/blog/the-martian-movie-review
> > >>>
> > >>> "I declared that The Martian (novel) was the best hard science fiction
> > >>> novel I had ever read. It is not a perfect book, but it is an
> > >>> outstanding book that does "book things" brilliantly."
> > >>>
> > >>> "I'm now declaring that The Martian, (movie) is the best hard science
> > >>> fiction movie I have ever seen. It is not a perfect film, but it is an
> > >>> outstanding film that speaks the way only a film can, and uses the
> > >>> medium in ways that the very best films do."
> > >>>
> > >>> Interesting.
> > >>
> > >> Interesting in that you agree with the post? Have you read/seen it?
> > >> Not quite sure myself about the best hard scifi movie, as
> > >> many commentators have pointed out you can't have Earth-like hurricanes
> > >> on weak-aired Mars. Enjoyed the movie though.
> > >
> > > I have not seen it yet. I found that the review makes me want to go see
> > > it.
> >
> > Just went and saw "The Martian" movie with my Dad and my son. Excellent
> > story, just excellent with the message of perseverance in
> > the face of all adversity. I loved the hard science in the movie,
> > everything in there is achievable with today's science.
> >
> > Just bring a LOT of cash. I'm hearing $65 trillion for a human to Mars
> > mission. And back.
>
> And all because NASA and Congress got from the space shuttle the
> erroneous message "reusable is more expensive" instead of the correct
> message "a half-assed piece of crap is more expensive".
>
> Fortunately Elon Musk wasn't listening.
>
> The only reason it would cost 65 trillion dollars to go to Mars is
> because the politicians turn it into a huge pork barrel.

Nope. Only $32.5 trillion ... you send criminals there as a test of the
systems and simply don't bother bringing them back again. :-)

Joe Pfeiffer

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Nov 10, 2015, 11:49:59 PM11/10/15
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People have lived for longer than that in far more cramped quarters --
submarine crews come to mind. One of the things I found pretty
implausible was the sheer amount of stuff they had for a mission that
was only supposed to be on the planet for a couple of months.

> My son says that if you like the five minutes in the "Apollo 13" movie
> where they are fixing the spaceship, you will like this movie because
> the entire movie is one crisis after the other.

https://xkcd.com/1536/

Don't get me wrong, it was a terrific book and movie. But it wasn't
(quite) perfect.

J. Clarke

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Nov 11, 2015, 3:11:46 AM11/11/15
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In article <n1u9m9$484$1...@dont-email.me>, l...@winsim.com says...
Yep. Thing is bigger than the ISS and one wonders how they built it
given the pitiful launch capability depicted in the movie.

> My son says that if you like the five minutes in the "Apollo 13" movie where they are fixing the spaceship, you will like this movie
> because the entire movie is one crisis after the other.

For the most part this is true, however Apollo 13 didn't leave me coming
up with nagging questions for weeks.

J. Clarke

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Nov 11, 2015, 3:45:46 AM11/11/15
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In article <1b37wdd...@pfeifferfamily.net>, pfei...@cs.nmsu.edu
says...
When has a submarine crew gone 16 months without visiting port?

> One of the things I found pretty
> implausible was the sheer amount of stuff they had for a mission that
> was only supposed to be on the planet for a couple of months.

Mission planning is the weak point of almost all SF.

Barry Margolin

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Nov 11, 2015, 10:58:57 AM11/11/15
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In article <1b37wdd...@pfeifferfamily.net>,
I thought it was contingency planning. Since there's no way to send an
emergency resupply, they needed to oversupply the mission.

That's one of the reasons a manned Mars mission will be so expensive --
as soon as you add people to the equation, you have to over-engineer to
the hilt.

--
Barry Margolin
Arlington, MA

Lynn McGuire

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Nov 11, 2015, 12:45:41 PM11/11/15
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Redundancy is nice when you have live people in your design.

Lynn
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