Worst Miscasting?????
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>I don't think I've ever seen anyone stick out (like a sore thumb) more in a
>movie than Julia Sweenie in Pulp Fiction.
>
What about Tarantino as Jimmy? I definitely think that role would have been
better with Steve Buscemi.
>Was it just me or did she just NOT belong? Why would Quentin T. cast her.
I think they are friends or have been romantically linked.
>Was he a fan of hers. I think it would have been better to just have an
>unrecognizable actress who could "blend".
>
>What do you think?
>
She didn't bother me any. Tarantino on the other hand seemed very
wooden.
>
>Can anyone else think of instances such as this were you thought someone
>was EXTREMELY miscast or stuck out like a sore thumb?
>
>
>
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Vijay Ramanujan
bow...@epivax.epi.umn.edu writes:
>Can anyone else think of instances such as this were you thought someone
>was EXTREMELY miscast or stuck out like a sore thumb?
Depends on what kind of miscasting you are talking about. Sometimes,
actors/actresses are given roles that are outside their range of talents
(and not simply beyond their ability). Other times, they are fully
capable of doing the role, but the audience perception of the
actor/actress is so tainted by previous roles that it doesn't come across
right for many.
Examples of the first:
Robert Sean Leonard - Much Ado About Nothing: He has been anywhere from
fine to excellent in true dramatic roles, but in this he was a first
class stinker, trying to do Shakespearean acting, which is clearly not
his forte.
Laurence Olivier - Pride and Prejudice: I know, about a million people
are gasping and calling for their heart pills, but I thought he was being
a little too stiff and dramatic with the part. He is better at delivering
deep and profound lines than ones about how to fire an arrow.
Examples of the second: (And, of course, this is completely different
than the list anyone else would compile)
Dennis Hopper - Osterman Weekend: Hopper playing the most sane character
in any drama is a little ludicrous.
Chris Rock - New Jack City: I wanted to laugh, but he just wasn't funny.
Vijay R.
Corby Gilmore
> Can anyone else think of instances such as this were you thought someone
> was EXTREMELY miscast or stuck out like a sore thumb?
>
>
>
Here are three of the worst casting decisions in history:
1. John Wayne as Genghis Khan
2. Gary Cooper as Marco Polo
3. Michael Keaton as Batman
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Vijay Ramanujan <vrm...@umich.edu> wrote:
> Other times, they are fully
> capable of doing the role, but the audience perception of the
> actor/actress is so tainted by previous roles that it doesn't come across
>
> Dennis Hopper - Osterman Weekend: Hopper playing the most sane character
> in any drama is a little ludicrous.
Oh. That's not tainted is it?
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Vijay Ramanujan
tho...@kjemi.unit.no writes:
>
>> Dennis Hopper - Osterman Weekend: Hopper playing the most sane character
>> in any drama is a little ludicrous.
>
>Oh. That's not tainted is it?
It is. And you're point is ... ?
My point was that it is tainted. I am one who could not get over the
persona that Hopper has built up - from Easy Rider through to his Nike
commercials - as someone who is on the brink of insanity.
Maybe you weren't bothered by it. That's why I said -some- people would
be.
Jeff Ronci
: In article <bowman-17...@x68-163.epi.umn.edu> Amanda's Mule!,
: bow...@epivax.epi.umn.edu writes:
: >Can anyone else think of instances such as this were you thought someone
: >was EXTREMELY miscast or stuck out like a sore thumb?
: Depends on what kind of miscasting you are talking about. Sometimes,
: actors/actresses are given roles that are outside their range of talents
: (and not simply beyond their ability). Other times, they are fully
: capable of doing the role, but the audience perception of the
: actor/actress is so tainted by previous roles that it doesn't come across
: right for many.
Example of the second: Robin Williams in almost everything he's been in
("Mrs. Doubtfire" and "Popeye" being the exceptions, since he was so heavily
made-up as to be unrecognizable). "The World According to Garp" in
particular was ruined for me because of his having been cast in the lead.
He may have given a decent performance, but I was too aware that it was Robin
Williams or, rather, Mork up there on the screen.
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Madhu Krishnaswamy
>Depends on what kind of miscasting you are talking about. Sometimes,
>actors/actresses are given roles that are outside their range of talents
>(and not simply beyond their ability). Other times, they are fully
>capable of doing the role, but the audience perception of the
>actor/actress is so tainted by previous roles that it doesn't come across
>right for many.
I think the first criterion is appropriate. After all, casting agents cannot
be blamed for audience mis-perceptions. Here are some of my casting beefs:
1. Martin Sheen in Apocalypse Now.
Capt. Willard should have been played as a would-be Kurtz, brutal and
a push away from being psychotic. De Niro or Tomme Lee Jones would have
been perfect. (or even Keitel, Coppola's first choice)
2. Kevin Costner in JFK.
Every manic montage from Oliver Stone and dazzling delivery from the great
supporting cast is followed by Costners' whinny, inflection-less monotone.
Man, what a disgrace that guy is to his profession.
3. Sofia Coppola in The Godfather, Part III.
Siskel's opinion was "She just stands there looking slutty". Great line.
With Winona Ryder and Robert Duvall, the movie might have been palatable.
4. The entire cast of House of the Spirits.
One would think an actor of Irons' stature would realize that playing a bad
guy requires more than a puckering up of the lips and a ridiculous scowl.
Streep, Close and Redgrave all had a humongous shroud wrapped around them.
Alex A Goddard
Mark Hammil in Star Wars
Alex
Linda Snow
>Robert Sean Leonard - Much Ado About Nothing: He has been anywhere from
>fine to excellent in true dramatic roles, but in this he was a first
>class stinker, trying to do Shakespearean acting, which is clearly not
>his forte.
Well maybe it was just that role or maybe he can't do Shakespeare on screen.
But I saw him play Romeo on stage and he was very good.
Vijay Ramanujan
Oh? I thought that Irons was miscast - but then I have only seen Irons in
a couple films and have never been as enamored with his acting as others
seem to be.
I also thought that Antonio Banderas turned in his worst performance to
date - probably because the role doesn't suit his style. But I thought
that the others (Streep most of all, and Ryder as well) gave very good
performances. Of course, I think those two are the two best living
actresses, and are incapable of finding roles that they cannot do justice
to, so that's just my prejudice.
Vijay Ramanujan
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Purple Rose of Cairo. Woody had to remove Keaton after shooting
significant parts of the film because he was too "contemporary." Woody
never blamed Keaton and swore he would find a part for Keaton in another
movie. Keaton became a star afterwards and his replacement Jeff Daniels
and underappreciated and under used star.
Jamie
Corby Gilmore (ai...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
Neil Gall
> Vijay Ramanujan <vrm...@umich.edu> wrote:
> > Other times, they are fully
> > capable of doing the role, but the audience perception of the
> ^^^^^^^^^^
> > actor/actress is so tainted by previous roles that it doesn't come across
> > right for many. ^^^^^^^
> >
> > Dennis Hopper - Osterman Weekend: Hopper playing the most sane character
> > in any drama is a little ludicrous.
> Oh. That's not tainted is it?
Yes, that was his point. Since Hopper always plays the nutter, it was
hard to believe that he would be the most sane character. I understood
what he meant, and I haven't seen the film. I know what Dennis Hopper
is like, though, and he makes a great baddy.
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crucifixion scene in "The Greatest Story Ever Told." His only line,
"that man truely was the son of God." Sheeesh! After watching three
hours of a movie that's pretty low key and thoughtful, not to mention a
very emotional crucifixion scene, that John Wayne line ruins the whole
damn thing. It is good for a laugh however.
Jeff M.
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Daniel Hartung
>Example of the second: Robin Williams in almost everything he's been in
>("Mrs. Doubtfire" and "Popeye" being the exceptions, since he was so heavily
>made-up as to be unrecognizable). "The World According to Garp" in
>particular was ruined for me because of his having been cast in the lead.
>He may have given a decent performance, but I was too aware that it was Robin
>Williams or, rather, Mork up there on the screen.
Too bad you can't get past it. To me, Williams is as capable
as Richard Dreyfuss in a number of very human roles, from "Garp"
to "Dead Poets" (forget the stupid, adolescent plot), to "Awakenings"
(forget the exaggerated false heroics) to "Moscow on the Hudson".
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Erik Gregersen
There's an apocryphal story about this, but it's kind of funny so I'll tell
it anyway. Supposedly during the filming of the Duke's cameo in this epic,
the director was not impressed with Wayne's reading of the line. "Try it
with a bit more awe," said the director. Next take: John Wayne drawls,
"Aww, truly this was the Son of God."
Erik Gregersen
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Mark Malowany
: Vijay Ramanujan <vrm...@umich.edu> writes:
: >Depends on what kind of miscasting you are talking about. Sometimes,
: >actors/actresses are given roles that are outside their range of talents
: >(and not simply beyond their ability). Other times, they are fully
: >capable of doing the role, but the audience perception of the
: >actor/actress is so tainted by previous roles that it doesn't come across
: >right for many.
: I think the first criterion is appropriate. After all, casting agents cannot
: be blamed for audience mis-perceptions. Here are some of my casting beefs:
: 4. The entire cast of House of the Spirits.
: One would think an actor of Irons' stature would realize that playing a bad
: guy requires more than a puckering up of the lips and a ridiculous scowl.
: Streep, Close and Redgrave all had a humongous shroud wrapped around them.
I have to back you up on the House of Spirits thing, front to back all
wrong. I'm also inclined to say anything Wynona Ryder is in (invoking the
'role beyond their ability' rule).
I think casting Alec Baldwin as 'The Shadow' was terrible too, if just
because of the Alec 'Barbarian' Baldwin scenes. Truly laughable. (Which
is more than I can say for Jonethan Winter's 'comic relief' for the same
movie!)
mark malowany
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shawn
Sean Connery as King Arthur? I smell much miscasting
...and Mel Gibson as a Scottish warrior....
the best may be yet to come.
shawn
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Kimball Bishop
> : In a previous posting, Amanda's Mule! (bow...@epivax.epi.umn.edu) writes:
> : > Can anyone else think of instances such as this were you thought someone
> : > was EXTREMELY miscast or stuck out like a sore thumb?
> : >
> : Here are three of the worst casting decisions in history:
>
> : 1. John Wayne as Genghis Khan
> : 2. Gary Cooper as Marco Polo
> : 3. Michael Keaton as Batman
I'm sure some people will disagree with the 3 choices I list below and I
have enjoyed them in other parts. But.. it was agony for me to watch them
playing these roles.
4. Mel Gibson as Hamlet
5. Antonio Banderas as Armand
6. Robert Dinero as Frankensteins creature
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Renee Ramirez
In article <3fm91s$a...@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Madhu Krishnaswamy,
kri...@ee.ualberta.ca writes:
>The entire cast of House of the Spirits.
>>>>
Oh? I thought that Irons was miscast - but then I have only seen Irons in
a couple films and have never been as enamored with his acting as others
seem to be.
I also thought that Antonio Banderas turned in his worst performance to
date - probably because the role doesn't suit his style. But I thought
that the others (Streep most of all, and Ryder as well) gave very good
performances. Of course, I think those two are the two best living
actresses, and are incapable of finding roles that they cannot do justice
to, so that's just my prejudice.
>>>>
Well, the movie made "Hispanic" magazine's WORST OF 94 list.
Why? The movie takes place in Chile at the turn of the century.
But none of the main actors were Hispanic! There are a lot of
talented Latina/o actors in Hollywood that would have been great IMO.
Meryl Streep? Winona Ryder? Jeremy Irons? Please....
Terrible case of miscasting and that's why I refuse(d) to see the
movie.
:)Renee
r22...@email.sps.mot.com
Waiting to see how well Meryl Streep portrays the ITALIAN Francesca
in _Bridges of Madison County_!<insert snicker here>
jmi...@uwyo.edu
Aww...yes. That's humorous.
>
Jeff M.
jmi...@uwyo.edu
The Bomb
>Vijay Ramanujan <vrm...@umich.edu> writes:
>>Depends on what kind of miscasting you are talking about. Sometimes,
>>actors/actresses are given roles that are outside their range of talents
>>(and not simply beyond their ability). Other times, they are fully
>>capable of doing the role, but the audience perception of the
>>actor/actress is so tainted by previous roles that it doesn't come across
>>right for many.
>I think the first criterion is appropriate. After all, casting agents cannot
>be blamed for audience mis-perceptions. Here are some of my casting beefs:
>1. Martin Sheen in Apocalypse Now.
> Capt. Willard should have been played as a would-be Kurtz, brutal and
> a push away from being psychotic. De Niro or Tomme Lee Jones would have
> been perfect. (or even Keitel, Coppola's first choice)
>2. Kevin Costner in JFK.
> Every manic montage from Oliver Stone and dazzling delivery from the great
> supporting cast is followed by Costners' whinny, inflection-less monotone.
> Man, what a disgrace that guy is to his profession.
Hey, what about Costner in Robin Hood. Check out that great English accent.
Oooooh!!!
The Bomb
Vijay Ramanujan
R22...@waccvm.corp.mot.com writes:
>Well, the movie made "Hispanic" magazine's WORST OF 94 list.
>Why? The movie takes place in Chile at the turn of the century.
>But none of the main actors were Hispanic! There are a lot of
>talented Latina/o actors in Hollywood that would have been great IMO.
>Meryl Streep? Winona Ryder? Jeremy Irons? Please....
August said that was semi-intentional.
He wasn't trying to slight hispanic actors. It's just that he wanted to
try to destroy the idea that this was somehow a Hispanic film, and that
that was where it ended.
He also tried to mess with the ages in the same manner, not hiring a
different actor for Streep's character at age 18, or hiring two people to
play Ryder's character, who goes from being 15 to being the mother of an
approximately eight year old girl.
I also think that they were hoping for wider appeal, and that clearly
didn't work.
I, too was sceptical, because the book seemed like it would be impossible
to film. I thought they did a good job, though, and the film was solid -
though not great.
Nick Rozakis
to be too old looking and stiff. They should have put Whoopie Goldberg
in the role.
Mandy McGouirk
I couldn't agree more. In fact, I'll take it a step further. Andie
McDowell is miscast in any movie she's in!! Am I the only person on
earth who thinks she cannot act at all??
I am expecting some backlash at this, but I'll take my chances.
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Nadia Dez
: In article <3g4630$c...@vaneyck.ahip.getty.edu>,
: Nick Rozakis <NROZ...@GETTY.EDU> wrote:
: >I think Andie McDowell in "Four Weddings" was a miscast. I found her
: >to be too old looking and stiff. They should have put Whoopie Goldberg
: >in the role.
: I couldn't agree more. In fact, I'll take it a step further. Andie
: McDowell is miscast in any movie she's in!! Am I the only person on
: earth who thinks she cannot act at all??
: I am expecting some backlash at this, but I'll take my chances.
Strange that for someone supposedly so talentless she has
been in a lot of pretty good movies... I do not think that she
is the best actress in the world, but she is competent at what is
demanded of her; and she does have a screen presence totally
independent of her acting.
Maria Vitale
: Vijay Ramanujan <vrm...@umich.edu> writes:
: >Depends on what kind of miscasting you are talking about. Sometimes,
: >actors/actresses are given roles that are outside their range of talents
: >(and not simply beyond their ability). Other times, they are fully
: >capable of doing the role, but the audience perception of the
: >actor/actress is so tainted by previous roles that it doesn't come across
: >right for many.
: I think the first criterion is appropriate. After all, casting agents cannot
: be blamed for audience mis-perceptions. Here are some of my casting beefs:
: 1. Martin Sheen in Apocalypse Now.
: Capt. Willard should have been played as a would-be Kurtz, brutal and
: a push away from being psychotic. De Niro or Tomme Lee Jones would have
: been perfect. (or even Keitel, Coppola's first choice)
That was the whole point, wasn't it? That Sheen was not that type to begin
with but slowly evolved into a "Kurtz" over time and his experiences in
Viet Nam. De Niro or even TLJ might have done well in the role but they
also would have brought much more to Williard in the beginning of the film
that I don't think should have been there. I even think Keiterl would have
been a mistake. Then again, considering all that happened during filming,
it's a miracle that anyone survived it at all, including Mr. Sheen.
: 2. Kevin Costner in JFK.
: Every manic montage from Oliver Stone and dazzling delivery from the great
: supporting cast is followed by Costners' whinny, inflection-less monotone.
: Man, what a disgrace that guy is to his profession.
Absolutely true. I've yet to understand his success. Granted I love Field
of Dreams but for its message and innocence, not for his performance.
: 3. Sofia Coppola in The Godfather, Part III.
: Siskel's opinion was "She just stands there looking slutty". Great line.
: With Winona Ryder and Robert Duvall, the movie might have been palatable.
Nepotism at its worst! I'm not big on Winona, so I think I'll pass on this.
: 4. The entire cast of House of the Spirits.
: One would think an actor of Irons' stature would realize that playing a bad
: guy requires more than a puckering up of the lips and a ridiculous scowl.
: Streep, Close and Redgrave all had a humongous shroud wrapped around them.
Oh yes! I knew it was a dog going it but not even the negative reviews did
it justice. It was one of the worse tortures I've ever endured. Horrible.
What were they all thinking of while making that film??? I only wish they
had had a shroud wrapped around them -- tightly and firmly over their
mouths!!
Maria.
Ceinwen Jones
(Mandy McGouirk) writes:
>
> I couldn't agree more. In fact, I'll take it a step further. Andie
> McDowell is miscast in any movie she's in!! Am I the only person on
> earth who thinks she cannot act at all??
> I am expecting some backlash at this, but I'll take my chances.
Empire described her as "wood masquerading as porcelain".
And they're right.
Ceinwen
Albert Avery Vise
: Hey, what about Costner in Robin Hood. Check out that great English accent.
: Oooooh!!!
I remember Robin Hood and Hamlet came out at about the same time. On
reviewer argued that both films would have been improved -- though not
necessarily good -- had Costner and Mel Gibson switched roles.
Avery
maggie exon
>
>
> I couldn't agree more. In fact, I'll take it a step further. Andie
> McDowell is miscast in any movie she's in!! Am I the only person on
> earth who thinks she cannot act at all??
> I am expecting some backlash at this, but I'll take my chances.
>
> --
> Mandy McGouirk
>
a combination of whining and looking winsome. Groundhog day is one
of my favourites because it is so cleverly scripted and edited but
she is definitely a minus in it. Also any bloke worth his salt
surely would have ended up with Kristen Scott Thomas in Four weddings.
R.A.Jinks
> I think Andie McDowell in "Four Weddings" was a miscast. I found her
> to be too old looking and stiff. They should have put Whoopie Goldberg
> in the role.
Hmm, interesting combination - Hugh Grant and Whoopie Goldberg.
Can't quite see it myself. Perhaps Michelle Pfeiffer instead.
at...@minster.york.ac.uk
>nroz...@getty.edu (Nick Rozakis) wrote
>
>> I think Andie McDowell in "Four Weddings" was a miscast. I found her
>> to be too old looking and stiff. They should have put Whoopie Goldberg
>> in the role.
>
>Hmm, interesting combination - Hugh Grant and Whoopie Goldberg.
>Can't quite see it myself. Perhaps Michelle Pfeiffer instead.
A recent `Empire' (quality UK film magazine) interview with Richard Curtis
had him suggest Ernest Borgnine as second choice for the Hugh Grant role...
Dimi Everette - Medaphis Development
> (snipped)
> Sometimes (more snip) audience perception of the
> : actor/actress is so tainted by previous roles that it doesn't come across
> : right for many.
> ("Mrs. Doubtfire" and "Popeye" being the exceptions, since he was so heavily
> made-up as to be unrecognizable). "The World According to Garp" in
> particular was ruined for me because of his having been cast in the lead.
> He may have given a decent performance, but I was too aware that it was Robin
> Williams or, rather, Mork up there on the screen
It's a shame you can't get past the Mork role (gee, what was that--two or three
years of Mork well over 10 years ago???) to see what a great actor Robin
Williams is.
I could understand if that was all he did or if he'd played the Mork
character for a number of years, but he didn't let Mork stop him. Robin can't
be beat for comedy, but he's also done very well in serious roles.
Go Robin!!
--Dimi
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Hiski Haapoja
>I remember Robin Hood and Hamlet came out at about the same time. On
>reviewer argued that both films would have been improved -- though not
>necessarily good -- had Costner and Mel Gibson switched roles.
Speaking of Hamlet, the story takes place in Denmark so why are most
film versions full of impeccably English actors?
For the pure in heart: http://www.uta.fi/~trhiha
#Suomalainen ihminen on pieni ja hento.# (Karoliina Nivari)
R.A.Jinks
That would be a much better choice.
You never know - there is still the sequel to come...
Todd Burns
I just saw at the video store today a movie with Mickey Rourke on the
cover that I had never seen. I picked it up and began to read the back
as I turned to take it to the front counter. Then in midstide I read...
The film dropped out of my now cold clammy trembling hands and I
sprinted out of the store yelling "My God it can't be true! The Horror.
The Horror."
The discription of the movie said that Rourke played a 15th century
monk! I don't remember the name of the film I must be blocking it from
my mind to save my sanity.
Todd_____________________________Cry Havoc...________________________
TINA A. KOVER
Well, the Whoopi Goldberg thing is so bizarre I have to assume it
must be a joke. As for Michelle Pfeiffer, she's also too old looking for
Hugh Grant. He may be in his mid-thirties but he barely looks old enough
to shave...maybe Moira Kelly or someone like that would have been more
appropriate opposite him....?
Going back to Andie MacDowell...does anyone else think she's just
an awful actress? Yuck...completely superficial and flat. Even in
'Green Card', which I think was the best film I've seen her in, she never
conveyed any real emotion. She's lovely but she's just not a good
actress. The love story in 'Four Weddings' would have been a lot more
convincing if Hugh's character had had a real reason to fall so much in
love.
That said...anyone have any comments on Hugh's chances to win an
Academy Award this year?
Tina
Erika Grams
TINA A. KOVER <tko...@du.edu> wrote:
>In article <D30A7...@exeter.ac.uk>, R.A.Jinks <cs9...@exeter.ac.uk> wrote:
>>In article <3g4630$c...@vaneyck.ahip.getty.edu>, nroz...@getty.edu (Nick Rozakis) wrote
>>
>>> I think Andie McDowell in "Four Weddings" was a miscast. I found her
>>> to be too old looking and stiff. They should have put Whoopie Goldberg
>>> in the role.
>>
>>Hmm, interesting combination - Hugh Grant and Whoopie Goldberg.
>>Can't quite see it myself. Perhaps Michelle Pfeiffer instead.
>
>an awful actress? Yuck...completely superficial and flat. Even in
>'Green Card', which I think was the best film I've seen her in, she never
>conveyed any real emotion. She's lovely but she's just not a good
>actress. The love story in 'Four Weddings' would have been a lot more
>convincing if Hugh's character had had a real reason to fall so much in
>love.
Yes, double yes, triple yes. I can't remember "Sex, lies ..." but
everything else I've seen her in, she's dragged down the movie for me.
>
> That said...anyone have any comments on Hugh's chances to win an
>Academy Award this year?
>
> Tina
With the wonderful Ralph Fiennes (Quiz Show) and Paul Newman both
deserving and sure to be nominated, and the juggernaut that is Tom
Hanks???????
No chance of winning. A nomination possibility but not a win.
Erika
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tko...@du.edu (TINA A. KOVER) writes:
> Going back to Andie MacDowell...does anyone else think she's just
> an awful actress? Yuck...completely superficial and flat. Even in
> 'Green Card', which I think was the best film I've seen her in, she never
> conveyed any real emotion. She's lovely but she's just not a good
> actress.
*YES!!!!!!!!!!!!* She can *not* act! I don't mind her so much as long
as she's silent, but as soon as she opens her mouth....*shudder*
And for more horrendous casting....Keanu Reeves in Much Ado. What was
Branagh thinking?????
Cara Vandy
had to be Brad Pitt as the vampire in "Interview". Great bod, bad actor,
so who had the bright idea of encasing him in black and making him the
lead?
CEV
Roxanne Theimer
McGouirk) writes:
(snip)
> I couldn't agree more. In fact, I'll take it a step further. Andie
> McDowell is miscast in any movie she's in!! Am I the only person on
> earth who thinks she cannot act at all??
> I am expecting some backlash at this, but I'll take my chances.
> --
> Mandy McGouirk
>mcgo...@phoenix.cs.uga.edu
I thought she was ok in "sex, lies, and videotape", but everything else I've
seen her in has led me to believe that doesn't have an ounce of acting talent.
Have you ever seen "Bad Girls"? Awful, just awful...
Roxanne
Frank Markus
But was she worse than Coppola's daughter in Godfather III?
Curt Freeman
Agree. He wasn't bad in Legends or River, but he doesn't do an
understated role well. If he can't grin, he's done for.
But my vote goes to Harrison Ford in the two Clancy movies. Way too old.
Curt
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Miren Seeley
Roxanne...@vos.stratus.com wrote:
> In article <3g4bj0$7...@hobbes.cc.uga.edu> mcgo...@phoenix.cs.uga.edu (Mandy
> McGouirk) writes:
> (snip)
> > I couldn't agree more. In fact, I'll take it a step further. Andie
> > McDowell is miscast in any movie she's in!! Am I the only person on
> > earth who thinks she cannot act at all??
Me too. I find it very difficult to get involved with any movie Andie
McDowell is in! Might as well use a puppet....I agree she can't act at
all!
--
Miren Seeley # "My life has a superb cast,
Dept of Anatomy & Structural Biology # but I can't figure out
Otago Medical School # the plot"
Dunedin #
New Zealand # - Ashleigh Brilliant
Joshua Wheelock
For once and for all, the woman they should have cast as the female
lead in "four Weddings" is Helen Hunt, of TV's "Mad About You".
Few American actresses can combine down-to-earth sexuality with
innocence the way she can, and these are the qualities that
should have been associated with the unattainable American in
"Four Weddings". Anyway, the REAL miscast of the year goes to
"Murder in the First" for the choice of Christian Slater in the
lead. He does not have the strength to carry an emotive dramatic
role like that of James Stamphill, and how come no matter what
decade Slater is supposed to be in, he always has the same '90s
haircut???
Just one man's opinion,
Joshua Wheelock
--
Randi....@adm.monash.edu.au
>Subject: Re: Worst Miscasting?????
>Date: 25 Jan 1995 02:04:16 GMT
>In article <3g4630$c...@vaneyck.ahip.getty.edu>,
>Nick Rozakis <NROZ...@GETTY.EDU> wrote:
>>I think Andie McDowell in "Four Weddings" was a miscast. I found her
>>to be too old looking and stiff. They should have put Whoopie Goldberg
>>in the role.
>I couldn't agree more. In fact, I'll take it a step further. Andie
>McDowell is miscast in any movie she's in!! Am I the only person on
>earth who thinks she cannot act at all??
>I am expecting some backlash at this, but I'll take my chances.
Not at all!!! As much as I enjoyed 4 Weddings for the light comedy it was,
she was so wrong for the part, not only couldn't I understand why Hugh Grant's
character would have ever been obsessed with her character (who was a bitch)
I couldn't see how he could even manage to play opposite her without lapsing
himself.
Can't quite visualise Whoopi Goldberg though...
Randi
Melbourne Australia
Bryan L Scovill
>In article <3g4630$c...@vaneyck.ahip.getty.edu>,
>Nick Rozakis <NROZ...@GETTY.EDU> wrote:
>>I think Andie McDowell in "Four Weddings" was a miscast. I found her
>>to be too old looking and stiff. They should have put Whoopie Goldberg
>>in the role.
>I couldn't agree more. In fact, I'll take it a step further. Andie
>McDowell is miscast in any movie she's in!! Am I the only person on
>earth who thinks she cannot act at all??
>I am expecting some backlash at this, but I'll take my chances.
She's fine as long as she isn't called on to show any emotion
what so ever.
--Bryan
--
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You know, certain species of fish
are just damned good insulators.
--I. Olliver Dunne
Corby Gilmore
Well, he sure made up for it in Legends of the Fall! As for worst
miscasting, let me nominate Michael Keaton for "BATMAN", and John
Travolta, Bruce Willis and Uma Thurman for "PULP FICTION".
--
CORBY GILMORE
"The man, the myth, the magic"
(or something like that!)
Mike
> And for more horrendous casting....Keanu Reeves in Much Ado. What was
> Branagh thinking?????
Actually he was no where as bad as I was fearing, IMHO Michael
Keaton was far more grating in this movie.
BTW. How is Keanu doing in *THAT* version of Hamlet on the
other side of the Pond ?
Mike.
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Mandy McGouirk
I just can't take him seriously. I think River Phoenix was perfect for
Interview. Christian Slater was not. But then again, I wouldn't have
cast any of those people in Interview except maybe Stephen Rea.
--
Mandy McGouirk mcgo...@phoenix.cs.uga.edu
"Man oh man, I hate them fancy lads."
-David Letterman, Cabin Boy
Wai Tang
: In article <3g9pp2$o...@mercury.cair.du.edu>
Totally agree!! Also, I think Keanu Reeves and Sandra Bullock were miscasted
in "Speed" (the most overrated movie of last year!!) and Sandra was horrible
in another picture, "Demolition Man". However, because Stallone was much
more terrible in the movie, so, Sandra looked okay.
---------
Robbie
w...@cpsc.ucalgary.ca
Charles Herold
> In article <3g4630$c...@vaneyck.ahip.getty.edu>,
> Nick Rozakis <NROZ...@GETTY.EDU> wrote:
> >I think Andie McDowell in "Four Weddings" was a miscast. I found her
> >to be too old looking and stiff. They should have put Whoopie Goldberg
> >in the role.
> I couldn't agree more. In fact, I'll take it a step further. Andie
> McDowell is miscast in any movie she's in!! Am I the only person on
> earth who thinks she cannot act at all??
> I am expecting some backlash at this, but I'll take my chances.
She was good in sex, lies and videotape. The reason she's
unsatisfactory in her other films is because she isn't always cast as an
uptight neurotic, but she gives off waves of cold. She is totally
inappropriate in any sort of romantic role, but she gets them anyway. I
can't for the life of me figure out why she's in such a huge number of
films.
---
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Janet Kaul
> >I couldn't agree more. In fact, I'll take it a step further. Andie
> >McDowell is miscast in any movie she's in!! Am I the only person on
> >earth who thinks she cannot act at all??
> >I am expecting some backlash at this, but I'll take my chances.
>
> She's fine as long as she isn't called on to show any emotion
> what so ever.
>
> --Bryan
> --
> Bryan L. S. Scovill...(bls@kepler)...Novell Administrator...C.I.S.
> You know, certain species of fish
> are just damned good insulators.
> --I. Olliver Dunne
Well, I'd have to disagree in the case of Sex, Lies, and Videotape,
in which she played a repressed socialite. She was good in that
role. But I agree on the rest.
As for taking Gibson out of Hamlet in favor of Costner, it was
gibson's unusually energetic version that charmed me about
that Hamlet. Put Costner in it and it's yet another deep-thinking,
indecisive Hamlet. Been there, done that.
But I do agree Costner came close to ruining Robin Hood. Thank
heavens for the Sheriff of NOttingham.
Costner's best movie by far was Bull Durham. Perfect World maybe
is palatable.
Janet
Dimi Everette - Medaphis Development
<snipped other include about Keanu in Much Ado about Nothing>
> <snip>IMHO Michael Keaton was far more grating in this movie.
> <snip>
> Mike.
> --
Well, I don't have much to say about Keanu, but Micheal Keaton stole the show
in Much Ado, at least that portion of the the show. You must not like Keaton
too much; he was *hilarious*!
Tim Scott
[About Andie Macdowell...]
> inappropriate in any sort of romantic role, but she gets them anyway. I
> can't for the life of me figure out why she's in such a huge number of
> films.
Maybe she and Daryl Hannah have the same agent?
Cheers,
Tim Scott
Jennifer Barber
di...@gateway.bsis.com (Dimi Everette - Medaphis Development) writes:
> In article <3gnm80$p...@fileserv.aber.ac.uk>, m...@aber.ac.uk (Mike) writes:
> <snipped other include about Keanu in Much Ado about Nothing>
> > <snip>IMHO Michael Keaton was far more grating in this movie.
> > <snip>
> > Mike.
> > --
> Well, I don't have much to say about Keanu, but Micheal Keaton stole the show
> in Much Ado, at least that portion of the the show. You must not like Keaton
> too much; he was *hilarious*!
I found Keaton's scenes the second worst part of the movie (worst:
Keanu Reeves; close 3rd: Robert Sean Leonard), and I have absolutely
nothing against Keaton. I just don't like that sort of humour.
And the best things about the film are definitely Branagh and
Thompson!!!!!!
jennifer
Paul Han Wu
presence of Harvey Keitel in that movie. What's up with that?!?
- Paul
Wayne Gale
Kevin Costner may not be the foremost actor of our generation and he was
miscast big time for "Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves" (should have been
Cary Elwes), but IMHO, he was excellent in "Field of Dreams" and "Dances
With Wolves" and "Bull Durham".
Jim Keller
"Macho, Macho Man. I want to be a Macho Man!"
-Kristy Swanson, "The Chase"
Nadia Dez
: In article <3gnm80$p...@fileserv.aber.ac.uk>, m...@aber.ac.uk (Mike) writes:
: <snipped other include about Keanu in Much Ado about Nothing>
: > <snip>IMHO Michael Keaton was far more grating in this movie.
: > <snip>
: > Mike.
: > --
: Well, I don't have much to say about Keanu, but Micheal Keaton stole the show
: in Much Ado, at least that portion of the the show. You must not like Keaton
: too much; he was *hilarious*!
He would have been fine if he had pronounced just a bit more, a lot
of dialogues were utterly mumbled ; that guy is supposed not to
comprehend the subtelty of langage, not have a speach deficiency.
ton...@carleton.edu
> as she's silent, but as soon as she opens her mouth....*shudder*
>
> And for more horrendous casting....Keanu Reeves in Much Ado. What was
> Branagh thinking?????
Try Keanu in *any* movie in which he doesn't say "Dude" or do his surfer/slacker
schtick! He was decent in _Speed_, but only because action movies do not
require a great deal of acting talent. (Harrison Ford is the exception that
proves the rule, IMO) I have a theory that Keanu was born in the wrong decade-
had he lived in the silent film era, he would have been a great Valentino-type
lead, since he has a fairly expressive face (his evil laugh was actually one of
the few effective moments as Don John), and people wouldn't have to listen to
him talk. :) For now, he's most effective in roles in which he is required to
take off his shirt and say little. (Like his female counterpart, Uma Thurman.)
Actually, Ms. MacDowell can be bearable when she works with a good director-
she was very appealing in _Groundhog Day_, and I've heard she was actually
quite good in _Short Cuts_. (OTOH, I thought her performance in _sex, lies and
videotape_, for which she received a great deal of critical attention, was
competent at best. But then, I thought that movie as a whole was very
overrated.) But no arguments about her performance in _FWAAF_- practically
everyone I've talked to agrees that Hugh Grant's character should have gone
with Kristen Scott Thomas instead of her, and her lackluster acting job was one
of the main reasons why.
MaryAnn
Charles Herold
writes:
> Peter O'Toole as Miguel Cervantes/Don Quixote and Sophia Loren as Aldonza in
>Man of LaMancha.
Man of La Mancha _should_ have starred Boris Karloff. He played a
scientist who goes crazy and thinks he's Don Quixote in an episode of "I
Spy," and he was amazing.
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Kjrsten Henriksen
Dimi in RTP, NC writes:
In article <3gnm80$p...@fileserv.aber.ac.uk>, m...@aber.ac.uk (Mike) writes:
<snipped other include about Keanu in Much Ado about Nothing>
> <snip>IMHO Michael Keaton was far more grating in this movie.
> <snip>
> Mike.
> --
Well, I don't have much to say about Keanu, but Micheal Keaton
stole the show in Much Ado, at least that portion of the the
show. You must not like Keaton too much; he was *hilarious*!
<snip>
*** Dimi in RTP, NC ***
kjh here:
You must not like shakespeare very much ;)
Keaton didn't just steal that portion of the film, he
hijacked it and sent it into a different universe.
It *was* funny, it was also a lot like being hit upside
the head with a brick while some one yells "this is a FILM,
dummy! none of these characters is real, so stop feeling
happy/sorry/frightend for them and LAUGH at me!"
And all you "#@# i hated keanu reeves in much ado" guys, think of
this: he _could_ have done it in surfer dude persona. That would also
have been funny (think of hitler in The Producers); it would also have
been wrong. Given the butchery that keaton performed on the character
of dogsberry, the fact that reeves did not choose to go for the cheap
laugh is rather to his credit.
kjh
k...@statsci.com
"clueless in seattle"
jk4...@albnyvms.bitnet
No I'd say its Field of Dreams or Dances w/ Wolves.
jer
STEPHANIE G. FOLSE
Kjrsten Henriksen <k...@herb.statsci.com> wrote:
>
>And all you "#@# i hated keanu reeves in much ado" guys, think of
>this: he _could_ have done it in surfer dude persona. That would also
>have been funny (think of hitler in The Producers); it would also have
>been wrong. Given the butchery that keaton performed on the character
>of dogsberry, the fact that reeves did not choose to go for the cheap
>laugh is rather to his credit.
Yeah, he could have been much worse. However, through the film I got
the feeling that Don Whateverhisnamewas should have been this brooding,
darkly menacing presence in the background throughout the entire film.
Insted it was more like Keanu forgot to shave.
Stephanie F.
Maria Vitale
: Peter O'Toole as Miguel Cervantes/Don Quixote and Sophia Loren as Aldonza in
: Man of LaMancha.
Ugh!! The Absolute Worst!! Only good thing about it was James Coco as Sancho
Panza!
Maria.
Pastry Woman
Jennifer Barber <epon...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
>I found Keaton's scenes the second worst part of the movie (worst:
>Keanu Reeves; close 3rd: Robert Sean Leonard), and I have absolutely
>nothing against Keaton. I just don't like that sort of humour.
>
>And the best things about the film are definitely Branagh and
>Thompson!!!!!!
I agree. The Keaton role/characterization makes me cringe, but
I wasn't sure whether the character is like that regardless, or just
this particular version of him. (Not having seen other versions or,
heaven forbid, having read the original.)
I do wish that Denzel Washington's part had been a bigger one. And
though I agree that Benedick and Beatrice's relationship is far and
away the best part of the movie, I've always thought it was unfortunate
that the hint of connection between Beatrice and Washington's
character didn't go anywhere.
Jill
(And yes, I admit it: Kenneth Branagh has no lips!)
IMRAN BIN MOHAMED NOOR
How about Michael Keaton in all Batman movies??
Or maybe Michelle Pfeiffer as the Catwoman?
Or perhaps Danny De Vito as the Penguin?
In my opinion, the entire cast of "BATMAN RETURNS" was a miscast!!!
jacqui v
except Speed?
Mike
> In article <3gnm80$p...@fileserv.aber.ac.uk>, m...@aber.ac.uk (Mike) writes:
> <snipped other include about Keanu in Much Ado about Nothing>
> > <snip>IMHO Michael Keaton was far more grating in this movie.
> > <snip>
> > Mike.
> > --
> Well, I don't have much to say about Keanu, but Micheal Keaton stole the show
> in Much Ado, at least that portion of the the show. You must not like Keaton
> too much; he was *hilarious*!
Michael Keaton is variable IMHO, I just found his performance
in MAAN annoying - his put-upon voice was difficult to understand and
whilst most of the roles were played fairly straight, he seemd to be
going for high camp. Ah well, I'm a bit of Shakespeare heathen anyway
so perhaps that was how it was meant to be.
Great movie though - I want to live in Tuscany. I want to
marry Kate Beckinsdale - (if Emma is *still* with Ken :) ).
Of course the question is - has anyone here been to see Keanu
in `Hamlet' and if so, how was it ? Have I made a terrible mistake and
got tickets to the `other' `Hamlet' when I should be watching this one
Bill R. Binkelman
one can act. He dragged Bidget Fonda down to hell with him.
Keneau Reeves in DRACULA (although he was the best thing about the
previous film LITLLE BUDDHA...and that WAS a surprise).
Bill
Atanu Dey
: Keanu Reeves in Tune In Tomorrow, Much Ado About Nothing... well, everything
: except Speed?
He was completely miscast in _Little_Buddha_. I can't imagine
how he got that role.
Atanu
Bridget McPhail
jbec...@twain.oit.umass.edu (Pastry Woman) wrote:
Yeah - wasn't Denzel divine? I'd love to see him play the lead in a
Shakespeare film. I don't think Keanu Reeves can act at all - I cringed
through his entire performance in "Idaho", but I actually found him O.K.
in "Ado". Not quite gag-worthy, anyway. Robert Sean Leonard was O.K. - I
mean, he seemed to do what the part required, which was to be romantic,
innocent and a bit thick. But I thought the comic bits with Keaton and
Elton were a disaster - too OTT and hammy. Overall, though, I loved this
movie - it's the first time I've ever laughed out loud at any of
Shakespeare's jokes - I find his humour pretty impenetrable on the
page...I hope Branagh keeps doing Shakespeare.
--
Bridget
Email: bj.mc...@auckland.ac.nz
Sean May
MOHAMED NOOR) wrote:
If I may...
Although BATMAN RETURNS was not as good as BATMAN (and I liked the former
a lot, so you can take my opinon with a grain of salt) Michelle Pfeiffer
was OUTSTANDING in BATMAN II, which was otherwise a really average flick.
I felt that because the film was so "popular" and the reviews of the whole
film were mediocre, Michelle got overlooked at Oscar time. I thought that
heer performance was about the best I saw all year.
Sean
--
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"Oh, a Mac is a Mac, only in Paris they call it Le Mac."
- with apologies to QT
Miren Seeley
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Miren Seeley # "My life has a superb cast,
Dept of Anatomy & Structural Biology # but I can't figure out
Otago Medical School # the plot"
Dunedin #
New Zealand # - Ashleigh Brilliant
Michael G Callahan
Probably one of the worst cast films ever.
I absolutely HATE Kenneth Brannaugh. I think his directing is miserable,
and his soundtracks suck. I loved Dogberry, though. Michael Keaton
plays the part superbly. I have performed in the play myself, and am a
big Shakespeare fan. I'll take Olivier's Henry V or Zeffereli's Romeo
and Juliet. Kenneth doesn't know what he's doing.
I would also agree that Mel Gibson was an excellent, aggressive Hamlet.
and Glen Close! (definitely overlooked come oscar time. One of the best
performances ever)
the other bad casting job I'll bring up is in "Masters of the Universe"
Dolph Lungren as He-Man?
Good body for the roll, but shut him UP!
Michael G. Callahan
Peter Hadley
I know this is gonna start a war, but....
Jack Nickolson as the Joker ? Last time I saw the Joker he was tall and
thin, not short, fat, and VERY over-rated.
Sorry for the truth,
jay
Gary Krauss
>
>
Ted Thompson
(Gary Krauss) wrote:
> An expensive dinner hangs in the balance--who is Mia Farrows Mom???
> >
> >
Maureen O'Sullivan
nob...@yale.edu
> An expensive dinner hangs in the balance--who is Mia Farrows Mom???
An actress named Maureen Sullivan. She appeared in an old Tarzan movie or
two as Jane. She also appeared as Mia's mom in 'Hannah And Her Sisters.'
Have an aperitif for me. : )
Susan
email: Sus...@aol.com
Nope. It's oak.
> An expensive dinner hangs in the balance--who is Mia Farrows Mom???
> >
> >
Oh boy. It's either Maureen O'Hara or Maureen O'Sullivan, I can
never remember. Whatever her name is, she played Farrow's
character's mother in Hannah and Her Sisters.
Connie
RobynR22
An expensive dinner hangs in the balance--who is Mia Farrows Mom???
Maureen O'Hara.
Who won?
Roby...@aol.com
Julie Strauss-Gabel
> An expensive dinner hangs in the balance--who is Mia Farrows Mom???
> Maureen O'Hara.
No, no, no. MAUREEN O'SULLIVAN is Mia Farrow's mom (she played her mom in
"Hannah and Her Sisters"). Maureen O'Hara is the woman in the original
"Miracle on 34th Street" (she recently appeared as John Candy's mom in
"Only the Lonely").
Beth Cunningham
Beth
Robert Bryan Lipton
: An expensive dinner hangs in the balance--who is Mia Farrows Mom???
: >
: >
Sachel P.
>
> In article <3gr9ik$i...@hermes.synopsys.com>, Janet Kaul <j...@synopsys.com> writes:
> >
> >> >I couldn't agree more. In fact, I'll take it a step further. Andie
> >> >McDowell is miscast in any movie she's in!! Am I the only person on
> >> >earth who thinks she cannot act at all??
> >> >I am expecting some backlash at this, but I'll take my chances.
> >>
does. How the hell does she even get cast at all-- in anything?
Perhaps there is a role out there that will do her talent justice, but
I have yet to see her in it. She had very few lines in "Four
Weddings and a Funeral," but could not prove herself worthy of even
that. She is attractive, but alas, that is all. Ta.
--Sachel P.--
Corby Gilmore
> Jack Nickolson as the Joker ? Last time I saw the Joker he was tall and
> thin, not short, fat, and VERY over-rated.
>
> Sorry for the truth,
> jay
>
the greatest casting decisions of all time!!!
--
CORBY GILMORE
"The man, the myth, the magic"
(or something like that!)
John R. Swaney
nob...@yale.edu writes:
How can so many people be so wrong? She's the child of Barry
Sullivan (star of "Sullivan's Travels") and Maureen Reagan, daughter of the
ex-President. She was named MIA because her grandfather, Ronald Reagan,
was Missing in Action ("MIA") from 1980 through 1988.
Now, somebody take ME to dinner........
John Swaney
Los Angeles
Jeanne Cruden
: miscast big time for "Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves" (should have been
: Cary Elwes), but IMHO, he was excellent in "Field of Dreams" and "Dances
: With Wolves" and "Bull Durham".
: > Kevin Costner -- In ANYTHING!
: >
: > I'd call him wooden but that'd insult some trees I know.
YES!!!!
I despise Kevin Costner down to the very essence of my soul...
as for Cary Elwes... whatever happened to him... I was very fond of him...
wasn;t he in some awful film called " the Crush " or something like that?
Jeanne
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I turn to ducks,
Beautiful comical things."
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Peter Hadley
>BLASPHEMY!!! Jack Nicholson was the PERFECT Joker! This was in fact one of
>the greatest casting decisions of all time!!!
ummmmmmm, ok, I guess he deserved that Oscar over Pacino too.
Sorry try again.
jay
Dstone1029
in Spartacus or maybe Tony Curtis in The Vikings. Curtis's Bronx accent
added a certain hilarity to both films that was clearly unintended, and
Wayne interpretation of Kahn as a sodbustin conqueror was truly
hysterical.
Doug Stone
Pastry Woman
Cindy Larason <elv...@netcom.com> wrote:
>If you don't understand why Hugh's character was interested in her
>character then you didn't even understand the entire movie! The premise
>was that you can fall in love with someone without knowing why and that
>love can take you to strange places with strange people. No she was not
>just a bitch, Randi. Her character was a woman who did exactly what she
>wanted and often wasn't quite sure where she was going in life. Maybe
>you should gain a little depth of personality to understand these things.
>
Ouch! Chill out.
While I agree that the character was *intended* to have the aforementioned
qualities, I think Andy MacDowell completely failed to bring across
anything in her portrayal. It was utterly flat, devoid of emotion,
and by far the weakest part of the movie.
Jill
Clark
>> Maureen O'Hara.
Maureen O'Sullivan was also Kathleen Turner's grandmother in "Peggy Sue
Got Married".
--Sue
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Elizabeth A Esser
: the way the part is *written*. Michael Keaton's overblown "look at me I'm
: using a funny voice" performance completely obscured the actual humor of
: these scenes.
I thought Michael Keaton's scenes were great-- a bit OTT, perhaps, but I
laugh every time I see them.
: Why don't you try reading the original? Then you won't have to rely on
: this newsgroup to find out what the character is *supposed* to be like.
I hadn't realized that a character was *supposed* to be like anything.
If so, then why do people continue to do Shakespeare? If you can't keep
interpreting and reinterpreting, then what's the point? Going back to
the text isn't going to give you any one "true interpretation." People
make a living off debating this stuff, precisely because it *is*
subjective. One person's "haha" is another person's *cringe*.
Liza
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Bridget McPhail
<jabr...@delphi.com> wrote:
> Bridget McPhail <bj.mc...@auckland.ac.nz> writes:
>
> >> I agree. The Keaton role/characterization makes me cringe, but
> >> I wasn't sure whether the character is like that regardless, or just
> >> this particular version of him. (Not having seen other versions or,
> >> heaven forbid, having read the original.)
>
> The role of Dogberry is an extremely funny one -- but the humor is in
> the way the part is *written*. Michael Keaton's overblown "look at me I'm
> using a funny voice" performance completely obscured the actual humor of
> these scenes.
>
> Why don't you try reading the original? Then you won't have to rely on
> this newsgroup to find out what the character is *supposed* to be like.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jessica
Sorry, Jessica - not my message. I'm the one who likes Shakespeare, but
finds his humour difficult on paper....but, while we're on the subject, I
don't think you need to have read "Much Ado" in order to criticise the way
in which the comic scenes are handled in the movie; the OTT aspects were
obviously a product of either the way Keaton chose to play it, or the way
Branagh chose to direct him...Still, any filmed version that has a modern
audience rolling in the aisles deserves a fair bit of credit, Keaton or no
Keaton...
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Bridget
Email: bj.mc...@auckland.ac.nz
J.A. Browner
>I hadn't realized that a character was *supposed* to be like anything.
>If so, then why do people continue to do Shakespeare? If you can't keep
>interpreting and reinterpreting, then what's the point? Going back to
>the text isn't going to give you any one "true interpretation." People
>make a living off debating this stuff, precisely because it *is*
>subjective. One person's "haha" is another person's *cringe*.
supposed to be played, merely that it shows where *any* actor who plays
the part is coming from. I'm sure anyone who has ever played this role
-- or any other Shakespearean (or non-Shakespearean) role -- would agree
that you start with the TEXT, not with someone else's interpretation.
So I say again: if you want to know what a role is supposed to be, go
back to the text and decide for yourself.
Cheers,
Jessica
Mandy McGouirk
Bill R. Binkelman <bink...@maroon.tc.umn.edu> wrote:
>Chris Isaac in LITTLE BUDDHA. Just because one can sing doesn't mean
>one can act. He dragged Bidget Fonda down to hell with him.
>
>Keneau Reeves in DRACULA (although he was the best thing about the
>previous film LITLLE BUDDHA...and that WAS a surprise).
>
>Bill
Make that Keanu Reeves AND Winona Ryder in Dracula! I hear she really pushed
to get that movie made. No wonder she got to make out with every guy in
the film.
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Mandy McGouirk "If I were not in the CID, something else
mcgo...@phoenix.cs.uga.edu I'd like to be. If I were not in the CID
A window cleaner me." -Graham Chapman
rmetz
then the theater volume was turned down too low (another issue for another time).
My big thing was the presence of Keanu. If his performance doesn't make you cringe
then I don't know what does. He was like Alan Rickman without the accent (thankfully)
and HEAVILY sedated (borderline comatose).
Do not take that as a slam to Rickman, he is one of the acting deities. I was just at a loss
for comparison.
Hunter
beebl...@vt.edu
David Lee
>In article <3heriv$m...@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>, G.KR...@ix.netcom.com (Gary
>Krauss) wrote:
.> An expensive dinner hangs in the balance--who is Mia Farrows Mom???
>Oh boy. It's either Maureen O'Hara or Maureen O'Sullivan, I can
>never remember. Whatever her name is, she played Farrow's
>character's mother in Hannah and Her Sisters.
Born in 1945, in Los Angeles, the daughter of director John Farrow and
actress Maureen O'Sullivan..
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