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Jeffry L. Johnson

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In 1982 I wrote to and received a letter from Sovexportfilm with a list of
over 100 70mm feature films. Sovexportfilm only supplied titles. All
other data (alternate titles, year, distributors, etc.) is my research.

Noted references () include:
(AFI) The American Film Institute Catalog of Motion Pictures Produced in
the United States Volume F6 Feature Films, 1961-1970; Richard P. Krafsur,
editor; University of California Press, 1976.
(DaTF) Directors and Their Films : A Comprehensive Reference, 1895-1990;
Brooks Bushnell; McFarland, Jefferson NC, 1993.
(IFG 19??) International Film Guide; Peter Cowie, editor; Tantivy/Barnes,
London/New York, annual.
(IMDb) Internet Movie Database.
(WEotF) The World Encyclopedia of the Film; John M. Smith and Tim Cawkwell,
associate editors; Galahad Books, New York, 1972.


Across the Gobi and Khingan
[Cherez Gobi i Khingan]
1981

An Aeronaut

Aibolit-66
[Dr. Aibolit - 66]
[Dr. Aibolit, 66]
[Dr. Aibolit '66]
[Dr. Ai Bolit]
[Ajbolit-66]
1966 (IMDb)
1967 (?)
Mosfilm

Air Crew
(possibly)
Ekipazh
[The Crew]
1979

Anna Karenina
1967; 1975--US release
Mosfilm; Unifilm

Armed and Very Dangerous
[Wooruzhyon i ochen opasen]
[Vooruzhyon i ochen opasen]
[Armed and Dangerous]
1977 (IMDb)
1979-1980 (?)
USSR/Czechoslovakia/Romania
Mosfilm

A Black Birch Tree
[Chyornaya beryoza]
[The Black Birch]
1978

Blockade
[Blokada]
[Part I: The Luga Defense Line]
[Part II: The Pulkovo Meridian]
(note: two more parts in production)
1974 (IMDb)
1975 (?)
Lenfilm

Blue Ice
[Goluboi lied]
1970

The Brothers Karamazov
[Bratya Karamazovy]
[The Murder of Dmitri Karamazov]
1968 (IMDb)
1969 (?)

By Faith and By Truth
[Veroj i pravdoj]
[With Faith and Truth]
1979
Mosfilm

Cafe "Isotop"

A Car, a Violin and a Dog-Spot
[Avtomobil, skripka i sobaka Klyaksa]
[Car, Violin and Blot the Dog]
[Automobile, Violin, and the Dog Blob]
1974 (IMDb)
1975 (?)
Mosfilm

Cherman
(possibly)
Predsedatel
[The Chairman]
1964
Mosfilm

A Cherry Slough
(possibly)
Cheryomushki
[Song Over Moscow]
[Wild Cherry Trees]
1963; 1964
Lenfilm; Artkino
(or possibly)
Vishnyovij omut
[Cherry Whirlpool]
1982
Mosfilm

The Circus Ring

Dersu Uzala
[Derusu Usara]
[Derusu Uzara]
1974 (IMDb)
1975 (DaTF)
Japan/USSR
New World

The Destiny
[Sudba]
[Destiny]
1977
Mosfilm

Director
[Direktor]
[The Director]
1969

Emelyan Pugatchev
[Pugachov]
[Emelyan Pugachyov]
1978
Mosfilm

The Enchanted Desna
[Zacharovanaya Desna]
[Zacharovannaya Desna]
[The Magic Desna]
1964 (IMDb, DaTF)
1965 (WEotF)
Sovscope 70

Fantasy About Love

Far in the West

The Fast Express on Fire

Ferocity

Flight
[Beg]
[The Flight]
1970 (IMDb)
1971 (DaTF)
Mosfilm

The Forest's Song "Mavka"
[The Forest Song (Symphony)]
[Forest Symphony]
[Lesnaya pesnya. Mavka]
[A Story of the Forest: Mavka]
1981
Corinth?

Forget the Word -- Death

From Dawn Till Sunset

A Front Behind the Lines
[Front za liniyej fronta]
[Front Beyond the Front Line]
1977

Front in the Enemy Rear
[Front v tylu vraga]
[Front in the Rear of the Enemy]
[The Rear Front]
1981
USSR/Czechoslovakia
Mosfilm/Filmove Studio Barrandov

Gala Parade

The Gipsy Camp Goes to the Blue

A Girl and "Grand"

Goya
[Goya - oder Der arge Weg der Erkenntis]
[Goya, ili tyazhkij put poznaniya]
[Goya, oder der arge weg zur erkenntnis]
1970 (DaTF)
1971 (IMDb)
East Germany/USSR

The Hat
[Shlyapa]
1981

Headless Horseman
[Vsadnik bez golovy]
[The Headless Rider]
1969
USSR/Cuba

Here on My Land
[Zdes, na moyej zemle]
[Here, at My Land]
1979
Mosfilm

Hero of Our Time
[A Hero of Our Time]
1967

The High Rank
(possibly)
[A Lofty Calling]
1973
(or possibly)
Vysokoye zvaniye (Radi zhizni na zemle)
[High Title (For the Life on Earth)
1974
Mosfilm

The Hottest Month
[Samyj zharkij mesyats]
[The Warmest Month]
1974

Hunting Accident
[A Hunting Accident]
[The Hunting Accident]
[Moj laskovyj i nezhnyj zver]
[Drama na okhote]
[My Tender and Affectionate Beast]
[The Shooting Party]
1978
Mosfilm

In the World of Dance

Inkognito from St. Petersbourg
[Incognito from Petersburg]
[Stranger from St. Petersburg]
[Inkognito iz Peterburga]
[Incognito From St. Petersburg]
1977
Mosfilm
Sovscope

An Iron Stream

Ivan the Terrible
[Ivan Groznyj]
1977
Mosfilm; Corinth
ballet

The Ivanovs

Katerina Izmailova
[Katerina Ismailova]
[Katerina Izmaylova]
[Lady Macbeth of Mtsensk]
[Lady Macbeth of the Mtsensk District]
1967; 1969 (AFI)
1966 (IMDb, DaTF)
Lenfilm; Artkino

King of Mountains and Others

Komsomol

The Last Hunting
[Poslednyaya okhota]
[The Last Hunt]
1979
Lenfilm

The Law of Antarktida
[Zakon Antarktidy]
The Law of the Antarctic]
1965

Liberation
[Osvobozhdyeniye]
[Osvobozhdenie]
[Osvobozhdeniye]
[Liberation, Part One: The Bulge of Fire] (1968) (DaTF)
[Liberation, Part Two: The Breakthrough] (1968) (DaTF)
[Liberation, Part Three: The Direction of Main Strike] (1970) (DaTF)
[Liberation, Part Four: Battle for Berlin] (1971) (DaTF)
[Liberation, Part Five: The Last Assault] (1971) (DaTF)
1969 (IMDb)
1970 (IFG 1973)
Mosfilm

Love by Correspondence

The Lovers' Romance
[Romans o vljublennych]
[Romans o vlyublyonnykh]
[A Lover's Romance]
[Romance for Lovers]
[The Romance of Lovers]
1974
Mosfilm

Lubov Yarovaya
[Lyubov Yarovaya]
1970
Lenfilm

Moment Decides All
[Vsyo reshayet mgnoveniye]
[A Moment Decides Everything]
1978
Lenfilm

Much Ado About Nothing

Only Women in the Sky

Only You

The Optimistic Tragedy
[An Optimistic Tragedy]
[Optimisticheskaya tragediya]
[Optimistic Tragedy]
1963; 1964
Mosfilm; Artkino, Corinth
70mm Kinopanorama (AFI)
Sovscope 70 (IMDb)

A Poem of Dances
[Poema o tantsa]
[The Poem of Dance]
1969 (IMDb)
1973 (?)
;Corinth

The Price of the Fastest Seconds

Racers
[Gonshchiki]
1972
Lenfilm

The Reapers

The Right to Love

The Riverside of Hope

Russian Field
[Russkoye pole]
1971
Mosfilm

Salvo of the "Avrora"
[Zalp Avrory]
[The Salvos of the Avrora Cruiser]
1965
Mosfilm

Sea in Flame

A Serf Actress
[Krepostnaya aktrisa]
[The Serf Actress]
1963

Siberiade
[Sibiriade]
[Sibiriada]
[Siberiada]
[The Siberiad]
[Siberiad]
1978 (DaTF)
1979 (IMDb, ?)
Mosfilm; Ifex
Sovcolor, 70mm (IFG 1980)
Sovscope (IMDb)
Note: 35mm 1.37:1 in USA

A Siberian Woman

Siuzhet dlya nebolshovo rasskaza
[Syuzhet dlya nebolshogo raskaza]
[Syuzhet dlya nebolshovo rasskaza]
[Lika -- Chechov's Love]
[Lika, Tchekhov's Love]
[Lika, Chekov's Love]
[Lika: Chekhov's Love]
[Lika, le grand amour de Tchekhov]
[Lika, le grand amour de Tchekov]
[Lika le grand amour de Tchekov]
[Lika - Lyubov Chekhova]
[Lika, Lyubov Chekhova]
[Theme for a Short Story]
[Subject for a Short Story]
[A Plot for a Short Story]
1968 (DaTF, WEotF)
1969 (IMDb)
USSR/France
Mosfilm/Telcia Films
70mm

The Sleeping Beauty
[Spyaschaya krasavitsa]
[Spyashchaya krasavitsa]
[Sleeping Beauty]
1964; 1966
Lenfilm; Royal Films International
Kinopanorama in USSR; Techniscope in USA (AFI)
Kinopanorama 70 (IMDb)

Snow Storm
[Duma o Kovpake: Buran]
[Poem of Kovpak: Snow-Storm]
1975
Dovzhenko

Soldiers of Liberty
[Soldiers of Freedom]
[The Soldiers of Freedom]
[Soldaty svobody]
1976 (DaTF)
1977 (IMDb)

The Soul
[Dusha]
[The Soul]
1981
Mosfilm

The Squadron of Flying Hussars

Stars Do Not Go Down

A Steep Field

The Story of the Flaming Years
[Povyest plamyennykh lyet]
[Povest plamennykh let]
[Povest' plamennykh let]
[The Story of Flaming Years]
[Story of the Flaming Years]
[Story of the Turbulent Years]
[The Flaming Years]
[Chronicle of Flaming Years]
[History of the Burning Years]
[The Turbulent Years]
[Tale of the Flaming Years]
[L'histoire des annes de feu]
1961
Mosfilm
Sovscope 70
Todd-AO (IMDb)

The Swan Lake
[Lebedinoye ozero]
[Swan Lake]
1968 (IMDb)
1971 (Corinth)
Corinth
ballet

Take Off
(possibly)
[Taking Off]
1973
animated
(or possibly)
Razreshite vzlyot!
[Allow Take-Off!]
1971
Lenfilm

The Tale of Tsar Saltan
[The Tale of Czar Saltan]
[The Tale of Tsar Sultan]
[Skazka o tsare Saltane]
[Story About Czar Saltan]
1966 (IMDb, DaTF)
1967 (Corinth?)
Mosfilm; Corinth

The Taste of Bread
[Vkus khalvy]
[Taste of Halva]
1975
Gorky Film Studios

Terrestrial Love
[Lyubov zemnaya]
[Earthly Love]
1974

They Don't Change Horses While Crossing the River
[Konej na pereprave ne menyayut]
[Horses Aren't Changed at the Crossing]
1980
Mosfilm

Three Fat Men
[Tri tolstyaka]
[The Three Fat Men]
1966
Lenfilm

To the Stars by Hard Ways
[Cherez ternii k zvyozdam]
[Cherez ternii k zvezdam]
[Cherez ternii k svezdam]
[Per aspera ad astra]
[Humanoid Woman]
1981; 1982
Maxim Gorky Filmstudio; IFEX

Towns and Years
[Goroda i gody]
[Cities and Times]
1973

Visit of Courtesy
[Vizit vezhlivosti]
[Courtesy Call]
[A Courtesy Call]
[Visit vezhlivosti]
1973

War and Peace
[Voyna i mir]
[Voina i mir]
[Wojna i mir]
[Vojna i mir I: Andrei Bolkonsky] (1965)
[Vojna i mir II: Natasha Rostova] (1966)
[Vojna i mir III: 1812 god] (1967)
[Vojna i mir IV: Pierre Bezukhov] (1967)
1962-1966 (IFG 1969)
1962-1967; 1968 (AFI)
Mosfilm; Continental, Kino International
Sovscope 70

We Are Russian People
[My, russkij narod]
[We, the Russian People]
1965
Mosfilm

The Wedding in Malinovka
[Svadba v Malinovke]
[Wedding in Malinovka]
1967

Weeds

White Bird with a Black Mark
[White Bird with a Black Spot]
[Bilyj ptakh z chornoju oznakoju]
[Belaya ptitsa s chyornoj otmetino]
[Byelaya ptitsa s chornoy otmyetinoy]
[Byelaya ptitsa s tchornem piatnom]
[The White Bird Marked with Black]
[A White Bird with Black Marking]
[The White Bird with a Black Mark]
[The White Bird with the Black Mark]
1970 (DaTF)
1971 (IMDb, IFG 1973)
Dovzhenko Film Studios
(scope)

Yaroslav -- The Wize
(possibly)
Yaroslav Mudry
1981

Yaroslavna, a Queen of France
[Yaroslavna, korolyeva frantsii]
[Yaroslavna, koroleva Frantsij]
[Yaroslavna, Queen of France]
[Anne, Queen of France]
1978
Lenfilm

A Year Like the Whole Life

The Young Generation
[Molodyye]
[Molodye]
[Young People]
1971 (IMDb)
1972 (?)
Mosfilm

Zakhar Berkout
[Zakhar Berkut]
1971

======
Soviet 70mm films from other references:

The Blizzart
1965
Sovscope 70

Bolshoi Ballet 67
[Sekret uspekha]
[Bolshoi Ballet '67]
[The Secret of Success]
1965; 1966
Mosfilm; Paramount

Film Concert
1940; ?
Stereokino
3D (reissued as 70mm single strip left/right images side by side)

Mexico in Flames
[Krasnye kolokola: Meksika v ogne]
[Krasnye kolokola, film pervyj - Meksika v ogne]
[Campanas rojas]
[Krasnye kolokola]
[Red Bells]
[Red Bells: Mexico in Flames]
1982
USSR/Mexico/Italy
Mosfilm

Napravleniye glavnogo udara
[The Direction of the Main Blow]
[The Direction of the Main Strike]
1969 (IMDb)
1970 (DaTF)
Italy/East Germany/Poland/USSR
/DEFA/Zespoly Filmowe/Mosfilm
(See LIBERATION above)

Nights of Farewell
1966

Poema o more
[Poema o morye]
[Poem of the Sea]
[Poem of a Sea]
[Poem of an Inland Sea]
1958 (DaTF)
1959 (IMDb)
Mosfilm
CinemaScope (WEotF)
Todd-AO (IMDb)

Red Bells: I've Seen the Birth of the New World
[Krasnye kolokola: ya videl rozhdenie novogo mira]
[Red Bells: I've Seen the Birth of a New World]
[Krasnye kolokola II]
[Red Bells II]
1982 (IMDb)
1983 (DaTF)
USSR/Mexico (IMDb)
USSR/Mexico/Italy
Mosfilm/Conacite-2/Vides International

The Red Tent
[La Tenda Rossa]
[Krasnaya palatka]
1969 (DaTF)
1971 (IMDb, ?)
USSR/Italy
Paramount

Robinson Crusoe
1946; ?
Stereokino
3D (reissued as 70mm single strip left/right images side by side)

Solaris
[Solyaris]
1971 (DaTF)
1972; 1973
Mosfilm
Sovscope

Tchaikovsky
[Tchaikovski]
[Tschaikovsky]
[Chaikovsky]
[Tschaikowski]
1969 (IMDb)
1970 (DaTF, WEotF)
; Warner Bros.

They Fought for Their Motherland
[Oni srajalis za rodinou]
[Oni srazhalis za rodinu]
[They Fought for Their Country]
1974 (DaTF)
1975 (IMDb, ?)
Mosfilm

The Third Youth
1966

Tretya molodost
[La nuit des adieux]
1965 (IMDb)
1967 (DaTF)
USSR/France
Lenfilm
Sovscope 70, Superpanorama 70 (both IMDb)

Waterloo
[The Last Hundred Days of Napoleon]
1970 (DaTF, IMDb, WEotF)
1971 (?)
Italy/USSR
Paramount
Panavision (blow-up)

--
Jeffry L. Johnson <j...@apk.net>
Projectionist, Landmark Centrum Theatre, Cleveland Heights, Ohio
Projectionist, Great Lakes Science Center OMNIMAX Theater
IATSE Local 160 Officer, Examining Board

Steve Kraus

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Jeffry L. Johnson wrote:
> In 1982 I wrote to and received a letter from Sovexportfilm...

Don't worry; I'm sure the CIA has lost
your file by now.

Scott Marshall

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In article <jlj-ya02408000R...@news.apk.net>, j...@apk.net (Jeffry
L. Johnson) writes:

>War and Peace
[snip]


> Mosfilm; Continental, Kino International
> Sovscope 70

WAR AND PEACE (Sovscope 70 mm USSR 1968) will be shown in 70mm at the Egyptian
Theatre in Hollywood the November 21 at 12:00 noon.

Although I've only seen this film in subtitled pan/scan NTSC, I can vouch that
it is an AWESOME movie, IMO one of the top ten movies ever made, ignored only
because it is six hours long. Every minute an absolutely beautiful picture that
runs the gamut from passionate love story to mind-blowing epic battles. If you
love 70mm epics you're friggin out of your mind to miss this one.

FYI: I've pasted here John Pytlak's original posting on The Egyptian's 70mm
film festival:

<<
Today, while attending the SMPTE Fall Film Forum in Los Angeles, I learned of
an upcoming 70mm film festival at the Egyptian Theatre in Hollywood (American
Cinematheque) from Paul Rayton, the chief
projectionist. For those who haven't seen it, the recently restored Egyptian is
a great theatre, with wonderful sound and projection. The TENTATIVE schedule
is:

11/05 8:00pm Spartacus
11/06 2:00pm Short films, 5:00pm Lawrence of Arabia, 9:00pm Baraka
11/12 7:00pm The Wild Bunch, 9:30pm Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior/Lifeforce
11/13 5:00pm Tomorrow Never Dies, 8:30pm Apocalypse Now
11/14 2:00pm The Sound of Music, 6:00pm Oklahoma!
11/19 7:00pm Edward Scissorhands, 9:15pm Total Recall/Altered States
11/20 2:00pm Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, 6:00pm Godzilla, 9:00pm Titanic
11/21 12:00pm War and Peacy (USSR 1968)

Boxoffice phone is 323-467-0434
American Cinematheque office is 323-461-2020

At the SMPTE meeting today (WB Ross Theatre), they showed a 70mm print of the
opening sequence from Oklahoma!, and Paul showed a razor-sharp 70mm print of a
great CGI ride film shot on 65mm 30fps with digital sound. Great material. It's
a shame that most theatre goers today have never experienced "The Splendor of
70mm" for a feature film. It's really needed to properly light and fill the
huge screens being built in most new multiplex theatres today.

Quite a few familiar names from r.a.m.t were at the forum, and some were even
honored with being asked to make presentations :) .
>>

Scott Marshall
Editor, Wide Gauge Film and Video
http://members.aol.com/widegauge/


MC

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Scott Marshall wrote in message
<19991025083608...@ngol01.aol.com>...

>Although I've only seen this film in subtitled pan/scan NTSC, I can vouch
that
>it is an AWESOME movie, IMO one of the top ten movies ever made, ignored
only
>because it is six hours long.


Mr. Marshall...you haven't even seen it. Just wait. You'll be amazed at how
different the 70mm version is. For one thing, it is nearly an hour longer.

But one addendum to the list which began this thread: I saw "They Fought For
Their Motherland" twice here in Los Angeles, and I'm sure it was shown 1.85.
Although I know that the Chicago film Festival once had a 70mm print. Does
anyone know which Soviet features were actually filmed in 70mm, as opposed
to 35mm blow-ups? And does anyone know why Soviet film-makers tended to blow
up from flat 35, as opposed to Scope?

"Motherland," also by Bondarchuk (who directed and starred in W&P), is
another under-rated film. Some sections regurgitate the worst chiches of
Soviet cinema -- young men swooning over tractors, bloodied patriots kissing
the red flag, chunky women, etc. But the battle sequences are astonishing
and hallucinatory. Downright druggy. The better half of this movie is the
Russian WW2 answer to "Apocalypse Now."

Bondarchuk was a terrific film-maker, but he was a nomenclatura brown-noser,
and thus tended to be castigated or dismissed by the same cognescenti who
embraced the more rebellious Tarkovsky. Still, his work deserves
re-evaluation. If the widescreen festival wants to score a REAL coup, they
might try to dig up the 70mm version of "Motherland," "The Steppe," and
perhaps even the uncut "Waterloo," which I suspect is a lot better than
that...THING you sometimes see on television.

Jeffry L. Johnson

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In article <s19ink...@corp.supernews.com>, "MC" <mca...@instanet.com>
wrote:

> But one addendum to the list which began this thread: I saw "They Fought For
> Their Motherland" twice here in Los Angeles, and I'm sure it was shown 1.85.
> Although I know that the Chicago film Festival once had a 70mm print. Does
> anyone know which Soviet features were actually filmed in 70mm, as opposed
> to 35mm blow-ups? And does anyone know why Soviet film-makers tended to blow
> up from flat 35, as opposed to Scope?

That's a very good question. I was quite annoyed when the print of
_Siberiade_ that I played in Cleveland was 1.37:1, not even scope.

Martin Hart

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In article <s19ink...@corp.supernews.com>, mca...@instanet.com
says...

> Bondarchuk was a terrific film-maker, but he was a nomenclatura brown-noser,
> and thus tended to be castigated or dismissed by the same cognescenti who
> embraced the more rebellious Tarkovsky. Still, his work deserves
> re-evaluation. If the widescreen festival wants to score a REAL coup, they
> might try to dig up the 70mm version of "Motherland," "The Steppe," and
> perhaps even the uncut "Waterloo," which I suspect is a lot better than
> that...THING you sometimes see on television.

"Waterloo", despite being cut to about two hours, is a spectacle of
unbelievable proportions. I've never seen battle scenes on a scale like
Bondarchuk used. The photography in Panavision and Technicolor was
beautiful. I'd very much like to see the uncut version, though it was
difficult to deal with Jack Hawkins' dubbed voice, perhaps because I'd
been a Hawkins fan since I was a kid and it was just painful to know that
he could no longer speak. Nonetheless, from the two hours I saw of it,
it just might have been an incredibly good movie had it been uncut.

Marty
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Gary Couzens

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MC wrote in message ...

>
>Scott Marshall wrote in message
><19991025083608...@ngol01.aol.com>...
>
>>Although I've only seen this film in subtitled pan/scan NTSC, I can vouch
>that
>>it is an AWESOME movie, IMO one of the top ten movies ever made, ignored
>only
>>because it is six hours long.
>
>
>Mr. Marshall...you haven't even seen it. Just wait. You'll be amazed at how
>different the 70mm version is. For one thing, it is nearly an hour longer.
>
I've only seen it in TV (in four parts) - I'd love to see this on a big
screen.

>But one addendum to the list which began this thread: I saw "They Fought
For
>Their Motherland" twice here in Los Angeles, and I'm sure it was shown
1.85.
>Although I know that the Chicago film Festival once had a 70mm print. Does
>anyone know which Soviet features were actually filmed in 70mm, as opposed
>to 35mm blow-ups? And does anyone know why Soviet film-makers tended to
blow
>up from flat 35, as opposed to Scope?
>

"The Enchanted Desna" was definitely filmed in 65mm - I saw a 70mm print at
the NFT several years ago. It's notable as possibly the shortest 70mm
feature ever made, at some 80 minutes. It's also one of Jena-Luc Godard's
favourite films.

Gary Couzens

Bob Morris

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I saw two of the uncut Russian War and Peace episodes in Paris
in March or April 1967. In 70mm, Russian with French subtitles.
Superb. I suspect it was the first two. Ovbiously I could check
newspaper ads to find out.

Bob Morris

Scott Marshall

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writes:

>Mr. Marshall...you haven't even seen it [War and Peace]. Just wait. You'll be


amazed at how different the 70mm version is. For one thing, it is nearly an
hour longer.

The video version I saw was a private cut that intended to match the 70mm
version. I understand the video release in common circulation is not just
shorter than the actual film but also has one reel out of sequence.

I just hope the print they're screening at The Egyptian still has some color
left.

<< WAR AND PEACE (Sovscope 70 mm USSR 1968) will be shown in 70mm at the
Egyptian Theatre in Hollywood the November 21 at 12:00 noon. >>

Scott Marshall

Richard L. Lenoir

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On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 19:00:33 -0400, j...@apk.net (Jeffry L. Johnson)
wrote:

>In 1982 I wrote to and received a letter from Sovexportfilm with a list of
>over 100 70mm feature films. Sovexportfilm only supplied titles. All
>other data (alternate titles, year, distributors, etc.) is my research.
>

Are those real 65/70mm films or blowup from 35 ?


Richard L. Lenoir

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On 25 Oct 1999 12:36:08 GMT, wide...@aol.com (Scott Marshall) wrote:


>

>
>WAR AND PEACE (Sovscope 70 mm USSR 1968) will be shown in 70mm at the Egyptian
>Theatre in Hollywood the November 21 at 12:00 noon.
>

>Although I've only seen this film in subtitled pan/scan NTSC, I can vouch that
>it is an AWESOME movie, IMO one of the top ten movies ever made, ignored only

>because it is six hours long. Every minute an absolutely beautiful picture that
>runs the gamut from passionate love story to mind-blowing epic battles. If you
>love 70mm epics you're friggin out of your mind to miss this one.
>

I remember having seen this War And Peace in 70mm on the Cinerama
screen at the Variety theatre in Brussels, many years ago. And it was
indeed a very good movie. The projection was in Russian, 6 tracks
mag, and the film was subtitled in french with the usual black and
white 35mm synchronized element.

Jeffry L. Johnson

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Oct 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/26/99
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In article <3815cfe7...@news3.ibm.net>, len...@ibm.net (Richard L.
Lenoir) wrote:

> Are those real 65/70mm films or blowup from 35 ?

Both, but I haven't found any details besides what I've listed. And some
of those details may not be reliable.

I've heard rumors about Indian 70mm features but have only stumbled across
one advertisement for _Ashoka the Great_. I've never found any other
information about _Ashoka the Great_. India's film studios produce 750-800
feature films per year (754 in 1994, 812 in 1993).

Tiger

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I had the priviledge in 1971 or 1972 of seeing a special afternoon program
at the San Francisco Int'l. Film Festival where 3 hours of "clips" of WAR
AND PEACE were shown in 70mm at the Coronet Theatre on
Geary St. After 3 hours clips, you would think that should just show the
whole damn film, but they needed to leave time for Sergie Bondarchuk, the
Director, to questions from the audience. For me, the 17 year old Cinema
Geek that I was back then (and I haven't changed!) it was just awesome, the
movie and the interview.

I will be going the Egyptian. Like Scott Marshall, I hope that Sovcolor has
held up and hasn't (can't resist) turned pinko!

Morgan

Joseph Kaufman

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Oct 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/27/99
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In article <19991026083314...@ngol02.aol.com>,
wide...@aol.com (Scott Marshall) wrote:

> I just hope the print they're screening at The Egyptian still has some color
> left.

I saw this print a few years ago, and at that point it still had decent
color (but some damage to the surround channels - thumping). Bear in mind
that many Soviet movies had a color scheme quite different from what we're
used to here, tending towards the greenish. This movie does avoid the
overly-dark look that many Soviet features had.

--
- Joseph Kaufman

Stephen Furley

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> Are those real 65/70mm films or blowup from 35 ?

Russia uses 70mm for wide-film negs, not 65mm. Not sure if they also
did blow-ips from 35mm.

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Sydney Assbasket

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>I've heard rumors about Indian 70mm features but have only stumbled across
>one advertisement for _Ashoka the Great_. I've never found any other
>information about _Ashoka the Great_. India's film studios produce 750-800
>feature films per year (754 in 1994, 812 in 1993).
>

Another Indian movie called "Sholay" (1975?) was shown in 70mm. It was made
from the original flat 1.37:1. I heard that the director wasn't satisfied with
the 1.37:1 version so he cropped it to 2.20:1. He carefully supervised the
transfer. Unfortunately, the DVD is cropped from 2.20:1 to 1.85:1, which is
like panning and scanning a Super35 film. A 4:3 director's cut also exists.

Who directed "Ashoka the Great"?

The Indian DVD Resource: http://www.fly.to/indiadvd

Remove "bination" to reply.

Martin Hart

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Oct 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/27/99
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In article <19991027193124...@ng-fr1.aol.com>,

> Another Indian movie called "Sholay" (1975?) was shown in 70mm. It was made
> from the original flat 1.37:1. I heard that the director wasn't satisfied with
> the 1.37:1 version so he cropped it to 2.20:1. He carefully supervised the
> transfer. Unfortunately, the DVD is cropped from 2.20:1 to 1.85:1, which is
> like panning and scanning a Super35 film. A 4:3 director's cut also exists.

This comment, like a good many others that you've posted seems to be far
fetched or naive. If you crop a 1.37 film to 2.2 then you've lost about
half of the original picture, then if you crop the 2.2 to 1.85 you've
lost another third. What's left on the screen, wildly dancing film
grains? And if the director wasn't happy with the 1.37 original why
would the "director's cut" be 4:3?

Jeffry L. Johnson

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Oct 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/28/99
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In article <19991027193124...@ng-fr1.aol.com>,

drag...@aol.combination (Sydney Assbasket ) wrote:

> Who directed "Ashoka the Great"?

"The film to silence the beat of war drums forever!"

ASHOKA THE GREAT

"Eastmancolor 70 m.m. stereophonic sound in English - Hindi versions"

Written, produced, directed by O. P. Ralhan

English version: Andrew Sinclair

"The Greatest Stars and Technicians Of The World in a 25 Million Dollars
Historical Epic of INDIA"

Enquiries: Ralhan Productions International
Ashoka House
Bungalow No. 8
Jolly Maker Apartment
I. Cuffe Parade
Colaba Bom.5

Sydney Assbasket

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Oct 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/28/99
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> And if the director wasn't happy with the 1.37 original why
>would the "director's cut" be 4:3?
>

The director's cut had extra scenes that weren't included in the regular
version. Those scenes never had 70mm prints made.

Alexander Vandeputte

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> I remember having seen this War And Peace in 70mm on the Cinerama
>screen at the Variety theatre in Brussels, many years ago. And it was
>indeed a very good movie. The projection was in Russian, 6 tracks
>mag, and the film was subtitled in french with the usual black and
>white 35mm synchronized element.
>

Last week i saw a screening of WAR AND PEACE in here in Belgium. It
was a 70mm print. The print dated from the actual release and had
subtitles in both french and flemish on it (as is the case with most
releases here).
I have been told that a number of 70mm films have been shown in
Belgium with subtitles on a separate element but this was not the case
with this film.
There were two 70mm prints of the first part (actually parts 1&2) and
there is only one 70mm print of the last part (parts3&4) and they all
have subtitles on the print.

It was very interesting to see a 31 year old 70mm print on the big
screen again. Besides the fact that prints of the two parts had aged
differently (different fading) they also seemed to have been made from
two different elements.
The print of Part One was in pristine condition but looked like it was
made from a very scratchy interneg (lots of white scratches and white
lines) and had a "dupey feel" to it.
The print of Part Two had a lots of repairs at reel changes but seemed
to be made from the o-neg in comparisson to the qualtity of part one.
Really stunning photographic quality here.
Generally speaking I was very much impressed with the colors holding
up so well and the overall fading being very reasonable. Of course
the prints have been in cold storage for some years now. What color
system was this film shot in ?


Scott Marshall

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Nov 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/4/99
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In article <3821e44c...@news.skynet.be>,
no-spam-alexan...@skynet.be (Alexander Vandeputte) writes:

>What color
>system was this film shot in ?

The Russian "War and Peace" was shot in "Sovcolor" which I am told is
chemically similar to Agfacolor and Gevacolor.

Scott Dorsey

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In article <19991104152619...@ngol04.aol.com>,

Scott Marshall <wide...@aol.com> wrote:
>In article <3821e44c...@news.skynet.be>,
>no-spam-alexan...@skynet.be (Alexander Vandeputte) writes:
>
>>What color
>>system was this film shot in ?
>
>The Russian "War and Peace" was shot in "Sovcolor" which I am told is
>chemically similar to Agfacolor and Gevacolor.

Yes, it's basically prewar Agfa, with the ball-and-chain dye couplers. Really
wonderful look.

If you ever have a chance to see the Russian _Othello_, do it. Magnificent.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Stephen Furley

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> Yes, it's basically prewar Agfa, with the ball-and-chain dye
> couplers. Really
> wonderful look.
> If you ever have a chance to see the Russian _Othello_, do it.
> Magnificent.

What are "ball-and-chain" couplers? It's not a term i've heard before.
How do they differ from the couplers used in modern stocks?

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