Accidental Death in Wizard of Oz
Edd
Can someone explain the controversy about an accidental death that occurred
off-stage, but can be seen if you look real close at a particular scene?
Thanks.
ed...@annex.com
Znmdgr4
It is rumored that Paul McCartney died while filming "The Wizard Of Oz".
If you project the film backwards, "There's no place like home" sounds
like "I buried Paul".
Fascinating.
Meredith Lesly
>Can someone explain the controversy about an accidental death that
occurred
>off-stage, but can be seen if you look real close at a particular scene?
>
This is a myth. Didn't happen. From the IMDB:
"There is a rumor that a man committed suicide on the set, and that his
body can be seen on the left of the screen as Dorothy, the Scarecrow, and
the Tin Man walk down the Yellow Brick Road after their first encounter
with the Wicked Witch. This is false; the object in question is a strange
looking bird."
BetterDuck
Better Duck wrote:
>
> In article <01bc69b1$2d6123c0$7743...@Ed.Annex.com> "Edd" <ed...@annex.com> writes:
> >Can someone explain the controversy about an accidental death that occurred
> >off-stage, but can be seen if you look real close at a particular scene?
>
> several people to Malt Liquor. One of them appears briefly in a spiritual
> form in several hats. Another thing most people don't know is that the
> Brother Two was played by Mike Cilone in his first screen role; he did this
> under a pseudonym because his lawyer said that with a name like Cilone he'd
> end up on A&E. Look carefully at the Bodybag also, and you will
> see it breathing.
> --duck
> --
> "cest un Duck"
Scott Dorsey
In article <01bc69b1$2d6123c0$7743...@Ed.Annex.com> "Edd" <ed...@annex.com> writes:
>Can someone explain the controversy about an accidental death that occurred
>off-stage, but can be seen if you look real close at a particular scene?
The Wizard of Oz was filmed by L. Ron Hubbard, whose offstage antics drove
several people to suicide. One of them appears briefly in a spiritual
form in several frames. Another thing most people don't know is that the
Tin Man was played by Elvis Presley in his first screen role; he did this
under a pseudonym because his agent said that with a name like Elvis he'd
never make it. Look carefully at the Lollipop Guild also, and you will
see one of them injecting heroin on set.
--scott
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Joe Anderson
In <01bc69b1$2d6123c0$7743...@Ed.Annex.com> "Edd" <ed...@annex.com>
writes:
>
>Can someone explain the controversy about an accidental death that
occurred
>off-stage, but can be seen if you look real close at a particular
scene?
>
>ed...@annex.com
>
All that I remember hearing was that the gal that played the Wicked
Witch got some nasty burns on her face. Her make-up had metal
particles in it and they became heated when she vanished through the
studio floor while smoke and a fire-ball swirled around her. I asked
Ray Bolger (the Scarecrow) about this in 1978 during a shoot here in
Washington State. He never mentioned any deaths.
You might try an OZ newsgroup (if any) or next time you're in LA go to
the AMPAS library at 333 La Cienega in Beverly Hills. It's one hell of
an excellent film related library! They'll dig up the actual news
clippings of any OZ info you may want to look at.
See ya,
Joe
Mattias Thuresson
In article <01bc69b1$2d6123c0$7743...@Ed.Annex.com>, ed...@annex.com says...
>
>Can someone explain the controversy about an accidental death that occurred
>off-stage, but can be seen if you look real close at a particular scene?
>
>Thanks.
>ed...@annex.com
>
Could it be this you are referring to? This
is what the Internet Movie Database has to say:
"There is a rumor that a man committed suicide on the set,
and that his body can be seen on the left of the screen as
Dorothy, the Scarecrow, and the Tin Man walk down the
Yellow Brick Road after their first encounter with the Wicked
Witch. This is false; the object in question is a strange looking bird."
Mattias Thuresson, Sweden
mattias....@mbox300.swipnet.se
John W Bottoms
In article <5mr99b$p...@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>,
Joe Anderson <joe...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>In <01bc69b1$2d6123c0$7743...@Ed.Annex.com> "Edd" <ed...@annex.com>
>writes:
>>
>occurred
>>off-stage, but can be seen if you look real close at a particular
>scene?
>>
>>Thanks.
>>ed...@annex.com
>>
>Witch got some nasty burns on her face. Her make-up had metal
>particles in it and they became heated when she vanished through the
>studio floor while smoke and a fire-ball swirled around her. I asked
>Ray Bolger (the Scarecrow) about this in 1978 during a shoot here in
>Washington State. He never mentioned any deaths.
>
>You might try an OZ newsgroup (if any) or next time you're in LA go to
>the AMPAS library at 333 La Cienega in Beverly Hills. It's one hell of
>an excellent film related library! They'll dig up the actual news
>clippings of any OZ info you may want to look at.
>
>See ya,
>
>Joe
And of course, Buddy Epsen was the first tin woodsman. He was removed
from the cast when he got sick due to the aluminum dust used on him.
He was hospitalized for a while and they used a different effect on
his replacement.
-jb
Michael Gebert
Standard reply:
MGM was known as retake valley in those days. The Wizard of Oz was one of
its most expensive films of the 1930s.
Given those two facts, do you really think for one second they would have
left a corpse on screen in a children's film? And don't tell me they
didn't notice it. Assuming they found the body, they'd have thought to
look in the footage.
A much more fruitful thing to search for, if you really must hunt for this
sort of thing: in a number of 1930s films (and much more rarely later),
actresses pop out of their tops briefly during strenuous scenes. This
kind of thing was allowed to slip by on rare occasions, usually pre-Code
(after the Code, the costumes were less flimsy and thus less prone to
this). Three known examples:
King Kong: when Fay Wray and Bruce Cabot are floating after their dive for
their lives from Kong's cave
Kongo: the actress (Virginia Bruce?) runs across a room while being
manhandled toward the end, and her shirt opens
Hollywood Party: Lupe Velez, as the Jane of Schnarzan (Jimmy Durante),
runs to him and seems to float free of her jungle outfit
Michael Gebert
Ron Moskovitz
Cecil Adams ('The Straight Dope') tackled this topic a few weeks ago.
What people think is a corpse is a bird. Look it up on his web site
or his fan ng if you doubt it.
-R
Jeff French
Michael Gebert wrote:
>
> Standard reply:
>
> MGM was known as retake valley in those days. The Wizard of Oz was one
> of its most expensive films of the 1930s.
>
> Given those two facts, do you really think for one second they would
> have left a corpse on screen in a children's film? And don't tell me
> they didn't notice it. Assuming they found the body, they'd have
> thought to look in the footage.
Right. This silliness is along the lines of the dead kid's ghost in
Three Men and A Baby... pure crap.
The Wizard of Oz rumor has taken several forms over the years...
including one in which this guy snuck onto the set and hanged himself,
or was electrocuted, or murdered.
The truth is that it's a boom operator who accidentally got into the
shot.
GM953
I was told about this scene and watched it for myself.
It has (somewhere) been mentioned that this is a stage hand who happened
to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. If you look carefully as the
three dance off down the road, there is a figure looming in the forest
just to the characters' left. The person is NOT dead but very much alive
a form moving as though not trying to stay (somewhat) out of shot.
Look for yourselves...doesn't look like a bird to me.
GM
Wardog
In article <mgmax-01069...@ip91.chicago10.il.pub-ip.psi.net>,
mg...@mindspring.com (Michael Gebert) wrote:
(snippage)
> A much more fruitful thing to search for, if you really must hunt for this
> sort of thing: in a number of 1930s films (and much more rarely later),
> actresses pop out of their tops briefly during strenuous scenes. This
> kind of thing was allowed to slip by on rare occasions, usually pre-Code
> (after the Code, the costumes were less flimsy and thus less prone to
> this). Three known examples:
>
> King Kong: when Fay Wray and Bruce Cabot are floating after their dive for
> their lives from Kong's cave
>
> Kongo: the actress (Virginia Bruce?) runs across a room while being
> manhandled toward the end, and her shirt opens
>
> Hollywood Party: Lupe Velez, as the Jane of Schnarzan (Jimmy Durante),
> runs to him and seems to float free of her jungle outfit
You want accidental nudity? Check out a video of "Splendor in the Grass."
Early in the movie, Natalie Wood is in the bathtub, talking to her mother.
Suddenly, one of her hands moves up from the water and onto her chest.
Back the tape up. Take a look. Nipple, my friends. Pure, unadulterated nipple.
I can just hear the cameraman: "Elia, we got a tit! Whaddya want me to do?"
Gretchen Lynne Busl
I remember seeing a television special on the W of Oz that mentioned this
rumor. Somewhere when Dorothy and her cohorts are on the brick road, near
where the witch appears on a rooftop, a "body" falls to the end of a rope
in the distance background. It just turned out to be a crew member
slipping of a ladder.
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Jeff French <nice...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Right. This silliness is along the lines of the dead kid's ghost in
> Three Men and A Baby... pure crap.
We just added a "Movies" section to the Urban Legends Reference Pages,
and these were two of the rumors we tackled first. See:
http://www.snopes.com/movies/films/ozsuicid.htm and
http://www.snopes.com/movies/films/3menbaby.htm
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Well....since we're on the weirdness of OZ....
>> > Follow the Yellow Rock Road
>> >
>> > A Floydian analysis of 'The Wizard of Oz'
>> > By HELEN KENNEDY Daily News Staff Writer
>> >
>> > Call it Dark Side of the Rainbow.
>> >
>> > Classic rockers are buzzing about the amazingly weird connections
that >> > leap off the screen when you play Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of
the
Moon" >> > as the soundtrack to "The Wizard of Oz." It sounds wacky, but
there >> > really is a bizarre synchronization there. The lyrics and
music join
>> > in cosmic synch with the action, forming dozens upon dozens of
>> > startling coincidences -- the kind that make you go "Oh wow, man"
even >> > if you haven't been near a bong in 20 years.
>> >
>> > Consider these examples: Floyd sings "the lunatic is on the grass"
>> > just as the Scarecrow begins his floppy jig near a green lawn. The
>> > line "got to keep the loonies on the path" comes just before Dorothy
>> > and the Scarecrow start traipsing down the Yellow Brick Road. When
>> > deejay George Taylor Morris at WZLX-FM in Boston first mentioned the
>> > phenom on the air six weeks ago, he touched off a frenzy. "The
phones >> > just blew off the wall. It started on a Friday, and that
first
weekend >> > you couldn't get a copy of 'TheWizard of Oz' anywhere in
Boston," he >> > said. "People were staying home to check it out." It's
fun, he said,
>> > because everyone knows the movie,and the album -- which spent a
>> > record-busting 591 straight weeks on the Billboard charts -- can be
>> > found in practically every record collection.
>> >
>> > Dave Herman at WNEW-FM in New York mentioned the buzz a few weeks
>> > ago. The response -- more than 2,000 letters -- was the biggest ever
in >> > the deejay's 25-year on-air career. "It has been just
unbelievable," >> > said WNEW program director Mark Chernoff. "I've never
seen anything
>> > like this." The station plans to show the movie using the album as
>> > soundtrack at a small private screening tomorrow. Rock fans always
>> > have loved to speculate about hidden messages in their favorite
>> > albums. But seeking connections between the beloved 1939 classic kid
>> > flick and the legendary 1973 acid-rock album pushes the envelope of
>> > the music conspiracy genre.
>> >
>> > Nobody from the publicity-shy band would comment, but Morris asked
>> > keyboardist Richard Wright about it on the air last month. He looked
>> > flummoxed and said he'd never heard of any intentional connections
>> > between the movie and the album. But the fans aren't convinced it's
>> > just a cosmic coincidence. "I'm a musician myself and I know how
hard >> > it is just to write music, let alone music choreographed to
action,"
>> > said drummer Alex Harm, of Lowell, Mass.,who put up one of the two
>> > Internet web pages devoted to the synchroneities. "To make it match
>> > up so well, you'd have to plan it." Morris is convinced that
>> > ex-frontman Roger Waters planned the whole thing without letting his
>> > fellow band members in on the secret. "It's too close. It's just
too
>> > close. Look at the song titles. Look at the cover. There's something
>> > going on there," Morris said.
>> >
>> > Here's how it works. You start the album at the exact moment when
the
>> > MGM lion finishes its third and last roar. It might take a few times
>> > to get everything lined up just right. Then, just sit back and
>> > watch. It'll blow your mind, man. During "Breathe," Dorothy teeters
>> > along a fence to the lyric: "balanced on the biggest wave."
>> >
>> > The Wicked Witch, in human form, first appears on her bike at the
same
>> > moment a burst of alarm bells sounds on the album. During "Time,"
>> > Dorothy breaks into a trot to the line: "no one told you when to
run."
>> >
>> > When Dorothy leaves the fortuneteller to go back to her farm, the
>> > album is playing: "home, home again." Glinda, the cloyingly
>> > saccharine Good Witch of the North, appears in her bubble just as
the
>> > band sings: "Don't give me that do goody goody bull---t." A few
>> > minutes later, the Good Witch confronts the Wicked Witch as the band
>> > sings, "And who knows which is which" (or is that "witch is
witch"?).
>> >
>> > The song "Brain Damage" starts about the same time as the Scarecrow
>> > launches into "If I Only Had a Brain." But it's not just the weird
>> > lyrical coincidences. Songs end when scenes switch, and even the
>> > Munchkins' dancing is perfectly choreographed to the song "Us and
>> > Them."
>> >
>> > The phenomenon is at its most startling during the tornado scene,
when >> > the wordless singing in "The Great Gig in the Sky" swells and
recedes
>> > in strikingly perfect time with the movie. When Dorothy opens the
>> > door into Oz, the movie switches to rich color and -- and that exact
>> > moment -- the album starts in with the tinkling cash register sound
>> > effects from "Money." Anyone who has ever nursed a hangover
watching
>> > MTV with the sound off and the radio on can tell you how quick the
>> > brain is to turn music into a soundtrack for pictures. But this is
>> > uncanny. The real fanatics will point out that side one of the
vinyl
>> > album is the exact length of the black-and-white portion of the
>> > movie. And then there's that iconic album cover, with its prism and
>> > rainbow echoing the movie's famous black-and-white-into-color switch
-- >> > not to mention Judy Garland's classic first song.
>> >
>> > The real clincher, though, the moment where even the most skeptical
of >> > cynics has to utter a small "whoa!," comes at the end of the
album, >> > which tails off with the insistent sound of a beating heart.
What's >> > happening on screen? Yep, you guessed it: Dorothy's got her
ear to the >> > Tin Man's chest, listening for a heartbeat. Maybe it's
just a string
>> > of coincidences. Maybe the mind is just playing some really cool
>> > tricks. Maybe some people just have waaaay too much time on their
>> > hands.
>> >
>> > Or maybe, as Pink Floyd sings to close out the album, everything
under >> > the sun really is in tune.
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Susan Germain
In article <Pine.SUN.3.93.970605204018.24278A-100000@discover>, Gretchen
Lynne Busl <s00...@discover.wright.edu> wrote:
Yeah, I could see the guys looking at the rushes after someone dies, "Oh
well, you can still see Bob hangin' there. Think they should re-shoot?
Nah, no one will notice."
Michael S. Wellman
> Yeah, I could see the guys looking at the rushes after someone dies, "Oh
> well, you can still see Bob hangin' there. Think they should re-shoot?
> Nah, no one will notice."
This is pretty funny. As I read it I was imagining it in my mind. Then
I started laughing. It would make a great skit for SNL or Mad TV.
Since everyone has heard these rumors (I heard them in grade shool!) I
think it could work well.
Stephan Eichenberg
David Landers <d...@gwis.com> writes:
>On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Jeff French wrote:
>> The truth is that it's a boom operator who accidentally got into the
>> shot.
>What sense does that make? If he was there to be operating the boom mike,
>I think he was a little far away from anything. Were there even boom
>mikes back then?
Yes, they were then about 10 years old.......
Stephan Eichenberg
http://129.187.121.1/~eichenbe/
M"unchen, Germany
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Ricky Cheatwood
mattias....@mbox300.swipnet.se (Mattias Thuresson) wrote:
>In article <01bc69b1$2d6123c0$7743...@Ed.Annex.com>, ed...@annex.com says...
>>
>>Can someone explain the controversy about an accidental death that occurred
>>off-stage, but can be seen if you look real close at a particular scene?
>>
>>Thanks.
>>ed...@annex.com
>>
>Could it be this you are referring to? This
>is what the Internet Movie Database has to say:
>"There is a rumor that a man committed suicide on the set,
>and that his body can be seen on the left of the screen as
>Dorothy, the Scarecrow, and the Tin Man walk down the
>Yellow Brick Road after their first encounter with the Wicked
>Witch. This is false; the object in question is a strange looking bird."
>Mattias Thuresson, Sweden
>mattias....@mbox300.swipnet.se
I also heard that it was one of the birds from the set of "Dr.
Doolittle" that was filming on the set next to "Wizard of Oz".
In Bill Givens' book "Son of Film Flubs" he states,"Indeed you can see
a figure moving about among the scenery trees just beyond the little
house that sits beside the road. It appears to be a crew member was
caught on the set when the camera was running." He goes on to say that
in a town like Hollywood, everything that happens ( especially
suicides ) are pounced upon by every trade and scab rag around. This
would not have escaped the same treatment had it been a suicide.
Ricky Cheatwood
xstr...@iwl.net
Phil
Ricky Cheatwood wrote:
> >"There is a rumor that a man committed suicide on the set,
> >and that his body can be seen on the left of the screen as
> >Dorothy, the Scarecrow, and the Tin Man walk down the
> >Yellow Brick Road after their first encounter with the Wicked
> >Witch. This is false; the object in question is a strange looking bird."
>
> Doolittle" that was filming on the set next to "Wizard of Oz".
> xstr...@iwl.net
I'm going to sound like a smartass no matter how I word this, but Dr.
Doolittle was filmed almost 30 years after Wizard of Oz, and at a
different studio (20th Century Fox).
Scott Dorsey
In article <33EB4B...@earthlink.net> alian...@earthlink.net writes:
>Ricky Cheatwood wrote:
>> >"There is a rumor that a man committed suicide on the set,
>> >and that his body can be seen on the left of the screen as
>> >Dorothy, the Scarecrow, and the Tin Man walk down the
>> >Yellow Brick Road after their first encounter with the Wicked
>> >Witch. This is false; the object in question is a strange looking bird."
>>
>> I also heard that it was one of the birds from the set of "Dr.
>> Doolittle" that was filming on the set next to "Wizard of Oz".
>> Ricky Cheatwood
>
>Doolittle was filmed almost 30 years after Wizard of Oz, and at a
>different studio (20th Century Fox).
That's what the government WANTS you to think! Actually, they were both
made in 1969 on the same soundstage where the Moon Landing was filmed.
You think they had color like that in the thirties? Of course not. The
Wizard of Oz was made on modern ECN stocks with a crew consisting entirely
of prison camp laborers from the mind control weapons factory. This is just
another example of the sort of fluff "breat and circuses" movie that the
government promotes to make you think that Hollywood exists. In actuality,
everything west of Colorado fell into the ocean during the nuclear conflict
that Reagan started when he was governor of California, and these films
are actually produced in New York. Try it, take a plane to Los Angeles,
and you'll find that it actually lands in New York but they change all the
street signs around to make you _think_ you're in Los Angeles. But I can
tell that it's not REALLY LA because the air is only three stops ND instead
of five stops.
Steve
Scott Dorsey wrote:
> That's what the government WANTS you to think! Actually, they were both
> made in 1969 on the same soundstage where the Moon Landing was filmed.
> You think they had color like that in the thirties? Of course not. The
> Wizard of Oz was made on modern ECN stocks with a crew consisting entirely
> of prison camp laborers from the mind control weapons factory. This is just
> another example of the sort of fluff "breat and circuses" movie that the
> government promotes to make you think that Hollywood exists. In actuality,
> everything west of Colorado fell into the ocean during the nuclear conflict
> that Reagan started when he was governor of California, and these films
> are actually produced in New York. Try it, take a plane to Los Angeles,
> and you'll find that it actually lands in New York but they change all the
> street signs around to make you _think_ you're in Los Angeles. But I can
> tell that it's not REALLY LA because the air is only three stops ND instead
> of five stops.
> --scott
Gee Scott,
Lithium run out?
--
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Ricky Cheatwood
klu...@netcom.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
>In article <33EB4B...@earthlink.net> alian...@earthlink.net writes:
>>Ricky Cheatwood wrote:
>>> >"There is a rumor that a man committed suicide on the set,
>>> >and that his body can be seen on the left of the screen as
>>> >Dorothy, the Scarecrow, and the Tin Man walk down the
>>> >Yellow Brick Road after their first encounter with the Wicked
>>> >Witch. This is false; the object in question is a strange looking bird."
>>>
>>> I also heard that it was one of the birds from the set of "Dr.
>>> Doolittle" that was filming on the set next to "Wizard of Oz".
>>> Ricky Cheatwood
>>
>>I'm going to sound like a smartass no matter how I word this, but Dr.
>>Doolittle was filmed almost 30 years after Wizard of Oz, and at a
>>different studio (20th Century Fox).
>That's what the government WANTS you to think! Actually, they were both
>made in 1969 on the same soundstage where the Moon Landing was filmed.
>You think they had color like that in the thirties? Of course not. The
>Wizard of Oz was made on modern ECN stocks with a crew consisting entirely
>of prison camp laborers from the mind control weapons factory. This is just
>another example of the sort of fluff "breat and circuses" movie that the
>government promotes to make you think that Hollywood exists. In actuality,
>everything west of Colorado fell into the ocean during the nuclear conflict
>that Reagan started when he was governor of California, and these films
>are actually produced in New York. Try it, take a plane to Los Angeles,
>and you'll find that it actually lands in New York but they change all the
>street signs around to make you _think_ you're in Los Angeles. But I can
>tell that it's not REALLY LA because the air is only three stops ND instead
>of five stops.
>--scott
>--
>"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Okay Scott,
You were warned about this. If you find yourself walking down the
street one day, and a car pulls up to you and someone, probably
someone you know, opens the door and says with a smile,"Hey Scott, How
are you doing, come on, get in we'll give you a lift." Keep walking.
Ricky Cheatwood
Phil <alian...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Ricky Cheatwood wrote:
>> >"There is a rumor that a man committed suicide on the set,
>> >and that his body can be seen on the left of the screen as
>> >Dorothy, the Scarecrow, and the Tin Man walk down the
>> >Yellow Brick Road after their first encounter with the Wicked
>> >Witch. This is false; the object in question is a strange looking bird."
>>
>> I also heard that it was one of the birds from the set of "Dr.
>> Doolittle" that was filming on the set next to "Wizard of Oz".
>> Ricky Cheatwood
>I'm going to sound like a smartass no matter how I word this, but Dr.
>Doolittle was filmed almost 30 years after Wizard of Oz, and at a
>different studio (20th Century Fox).
It's Okay Phil,
I was being a smartass when I wrote it. Read it again with a grain of
salt.
Totally serious now. The rumour was started when an extra or crew
member was caught on film in the background of the aforementioned
scene.
Ricky Cheatwood
xstr...@iwl.net
Justin Seller
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On Sun, 10 Aug 1997, Steve wrote:
> Scott Dorsey wrote:
> > That's what the government WANTS you to think! Actually, they were both
> > made in 1969 on the same soundstage where the Moon Landing was filmed.
> > You think they had color like that in the thirties? Of course not. The
> > Wizard of Oz was made on modern ECN stocks with a crew consisting entirely
> > of prison camp laborers from the mind control weapons factory. This is just
> > another example of the sort of fluff "breat and circuses" movie that the
> > government promotes to make you think that Hollywood exists. In actuality,
> > everything west of Colorado fell into the ocean during the nuclear conflict
> > that Reagan started when he was governor of California, and these films
> > are actually produced in New York. Try it, take a plane to Los Angeles,
> > and you'll find that it actually lands in New York but they change all the
> > street signs around to make you _think_ you're in Los Angeles. But I can
> > tell that it's not REALLY LA because the air is only three stops ND instead
> > of five stops.
> > --scott
>
> Gee Scott,
>
> Lithium run out?
>
I think that he is Mel Gibson's inspiration for his new movie "Conspiracy
Theory" Hey Scott, I'd watch my back if I were you!!:)
Steve Weber
About 17 years ago, a friend pointed out
to me the moment when a crew member
(probably a grip) dressed in white coveralls
and cap "popped" up in the background
of the "lion forest" set in the Wizard of Oz.
But with the exception of that one time, I've
never been able to find "Waldo" again.
Steve Weber