816 Vs KMR 82i
henrym...@gmail.com
I've recently and very happily upgraded my 416's to Neumann
KMR81i's.... I know microphone selection is a personal preferance and
am not posting here to discusss taste.
I am however, now thinking of changing my 816's for KMR82i's You see
the trend here...
Does anyone who's used the 82 feel it compares to the 816? I've
obviously looked at the polar patterns and the 82 looks wider... but
then so is the lobe at the back!
I can't realistically do an AB without buying the 82 and having it on
set in anger, so... Your thoughts and experiances would be
appreciated.
Many Thanks,
Henry
Eric Toline
I think you'll find the 82i somewhat smoother sounding and yes it is a
bit wider in pick up than the 816 which can be an advantage. Having
both a long and short shotgun mic from the same family will be an
advantage in matching the sound.
Eric
Rob B
You will notice a difference in weight too - which may make handling
on a boom less fatiguing. I would make an effort to test drive or buy
with a trial / return understanding. You might be able to find a good
used one or find someone in your area who would let you check their's
out. I like my 82 and 81 but seem to reach for my MKH 70 (and 60)
more often. I love the sound my 41 best but the handling noise in
inexperienced boom hands means it is a hanger queen in my kit.
RB
Charles Tomaras
"Rob B" <ar...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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> I love the sound my 41 best but the handling noise in
>inexperienced boom hands means it is a hanger queen in my kit.
What mount are you using? Do you have a Cut 1 filter?
rich
text and ill put you in contact with a friend who may be looking to
sell his.
cheers
rich miller
Ty Ford
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> I am however, now thinking of changing my 816's for KMR82i's You see the
> trend here...
Wow! You actually use an 816. What kind of work?
Regards,
Ty Ford
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was burned by an 82 because we were shooting in the path of an STL.
When I sent back to the shop for our 816, we finished the shoot
without any more RF problems.
On Mar 12, 4:02 am, "henrymilli...@gmail.com"
Axel Traun
if you plan to get rid of your 816 I'd be interested. Is it a P48
version?
I own two 81's, one '82, and a 416, which I got because the KMR 81's
and 82's are very susceptible to radio transmissions, wireless video
signals from steadycam and so on. The 416 became my favourite mic
during the last year, because it offers more punch and a better
consonant accentuation due to its slight high boost. It is also a
matter of taste and voice (yes, I do change mics for different
voices)
I know the 816 from my time as boom operator and sometimes I would
prefer it over the '82, because in critical situations (and good
booming hands) it can add the punch that lets you survive.
Nevertheless the '82 is a wonderful mike for exterior locations, but
it sounds considerably different compared to the 81, especially a
little more accentuated in its highs.
best wishes
Axel
arovinsky
I made the change for 816 to KMR 82 ohm about 25 years ago, and I
haven't looked back, That should tell you something.
The 82 has a slightly wider hi freq response, but's it's low end is
the same, meaning you get less of that funky bassy off-mike sound.
Philip Perkins
but it is only usable in very expert, and on exteriors, very strong
hands (and arms). I had a boom op for many years who was great with
it, but the people I've worked with since, while good boom ops, just
struggle to much with the weight and wind resistance of such a huge
zep when it is used outdoors in the wind (when, as a mixer, I need it
most). The 82 does ALMOST the job of the 816, and I like the sound of
it much better. It does have RF suscepto, like Schoeps, and unlike
the Sennheiser designs.
I must say, however, that since getting my Sanken CS3e the KMR82 gets
used only as a backup or "plant-boom" mic, usually.
Philip Perkins
henrym...@gmail.com
Thanks for all the replies and advice,
Rich, good to hear from you, I found a very cheep 82 on bblist, so
have decided to grab that and have a play on set with it, before I
decide what to do with my 816, Axel, I maybe in touch... it's T12, but
use an in line bomb with it, so I can power via P48.
Charles, I'd highly recommend the Rycote invision mounts, there very
inexpensive and so quiet I can now rarely put in ANY roll off at the
mic or mixer. I much rather present the full signal to post as they
can do a much more accurate and specific job on the EQ. Obviously with
the maxi pole at full length, the 816, basket and fluffy, can
challenge a boom op on a 10 minuet scene... luckily I know one who's
6'4 Boxer in his spare time!
Ty I don't always use 816's but they are very much a part of my
arsenal, I do films and drama's... the very directional mics tend to
come out for wide shots in quiet environments or guide tracks in very
noisy/SFX environments.
Of late I've not struggled with RF, but as I type this I'm sure I'm
stitching myself up! I always keep my 416 as I know it is bulletproof
with regards to humidity and RF.
While on the subject, I've been getting much less RF from mobile
phones of late (yes of course they should be off on set, but all to
often are on silent), has this become a design consideration by the
manufacturers?
Best Regards,
Henry.
Ty Ford
(in article
<a384a179-ebe7-4de7...@z7g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>):
> Ty I don't always use 816's but they are very much a part of my arsenal, I do
> films and drama's... the very directional mics tend to come out for wide
> shots in quiet environments or guide tracks in very noisy/SFX environments.
>
> Of late I've not struggled with RF, but as I type this I'm sure I'm stitching
> myself up! I always keep my 416 as I know it is bulletproof with regards to
> humidity and RF.
Hello Henry,
Thanks for your response. I appreciate your thoughts on the 816.
I have one, but rarely find the right situation for it.
As regards the RF issues. Do you have one of the earlier 416s or one after
they went to SMT circuits.
I'm hearing that the Neutrik EMC Xlr plugs are helping to cut the RF
problems.
http://www.neutrik.com/fl/en/audio/204_1603252336/EMC-
XLR_Series_productlist.aspx
Regards,
Ty
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If you are in New York, I have put a Neumann 82 with accessories for sale on the Gotham Sound Website and would be happy if you checked it out. Dan is in charge of used equipment there.
Unfortunately, I am out of the country and will be until the end of February, otherwise, I'd try to work something out directly.
Good Luck,
Judy