Strangest Dub
S D
In Action 3 but now it's a dub on a Johnny Mercer song " sung " by
Lauren Bacall ( can't remember the title ), anyway the voice is that of
Andy Williams.
David Oberman
I believe that somebody dubs Betty Hutton in the opening scene in the
music shop, MIRACLE OF MORGAN'S CREEK.
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Bill Anderson
It was Bacall's voice.
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Dave in Toronto
That was a long standing showbiz myth. Not true. The voice is
Bacall's.
Dave in Toronto
S D
editor of a huge new book on the lyricist/composer. Both said it was
Williams.
moviePig
Everyone (or no one) is a winner! From Wiki:
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In [TO HAVE AND HAVE NOT], Bacall sings "How Little We Know" by
Hoagy Carmichael and Johnny Mercer. Another Carmichael song, "Hong
Kong Blues" (co-written with Stanley Adams), was also used. Carmichael
plays Cricket, the piano player in the film. There is a persistent
myth that teenage boy Andy Williams, the future singing star, dubbed
the singing for Bacall. According to authoritative sources, including
Hawks and Bacall, this was not true. Williams and some female singers
were tested to dub for Bacall, because of fears that she lacked the
necessary vocal skills. But those fears proved groundless, and she did
the singing herself.
Andy Williams says he sang the song and that it is his voice you
hear.
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Dave in Toronto
I found this on the internet.
: Pauline Kael was among the first to spread the myth that it's young
Andy Williams dubbing for Lauren Bacall, and though Kael was made
aware of the error, she never corrected it in later editions of 5001
Nights at the Movies. Those who still insist it's Andy Williams
singing will not appreciate Todd McCarthy's thoroughly researched
biography of Howard Hawks (page 377 of 756!):
"To find a singer who would match up plausibly with Bacall's husky
tones was not easy, and quite a few were tried, including the deep-
voiced black singer Lillian Randolph, Dolores Hope, and the teenaged
Andy Williams. Williams finally prevailed, and it was his voice that
emanated from the playback machine on May 1[1944] when Hawks at last
came to filming "How Little We Know." As was customary, Bacall sang
along while Carmichael tinkered away on the silent keyboard, and as
she did, Hawks liked what he heard and told her to keep going. When
she was done, he decided to record her again singing the song, so,
despite the legend that has come down over the years that Andy
Williams's voice was dubbed over Bacall's (a legend so generally
accepted that it became a correct answer on Jeopardy), the truth is
that Bacall sang her own numbers in To Have and Have Not."
Williams was not thirteen at the time he recorded for Hawks. He was
born in December,1927. - Bill Blackwell
In her autobiography Bacall says the voice is hers but that William's
voice was dubbed over hers for a couple of the high notes that she
couldn't reach.
Did Andy Williams dub Lauren Bacall's singing?
According to legend, Andy Williams sang for Bacall in To Have and Have
Not. However, according to Bogart, by Sperber & Lax, "Some later
accounts alleged that the actual singing was done by a very young Andy
Williams, dubbed in for Bacall. But studio memos and production
reports make it clear that the voice in the film is her own."
Dave in Toronto
moviePig
Is it real, or is it memory-wrecks? Only the sound-technician knows
for sure...
Stone me
"moviePig" <pwal...@moviepig.com> wrote in message
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"But those fears proved groundless, and she did the singing herself."
I think I have seen the Mercer related show in the last week.
Bacall's "voice" must be an acquired taste.
Stone me.
Halmyre
dmatt...@sympatico.ca says...
Couldn't they do a voice analysis to decide the truth? Or have I been
watching too mnay spy thrillers?
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S D
the author and editor of the Mercer book , but I have not read it .
Pleanty of reason to think the switch would be denied by studio people.
nick
> In article <242a6757-b9bc-455a-84d7-9597e850a...@8g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>,
> dmatthew...@sympatico.ca says...
"What a strange and seducing voice" says LaurenMega99.
moviePig
> "moviePig" <pwall...@moviepig.com> wrote in message
Yeah, I can buy that both recordings were ready and raring to go. But
the actual moment of decision may have been hidden from effectively
everyone, including the principals. ("The larynx on the cutting-room
floor...")
David Oberman
I think the voice in "How Little We Know" is obviously Clark Gable's.
S D
Michael O'Connor
The worst dubbing I have ever heard was the dubbing for Jackie
Gleason's profanity in Smokey and the Bandit when it plays on TBS. It
didn't even sound like Gleason, it sounded like Fred Flintstone was
doing the dubbing.
A close second is the dubbing that was done for the movie Casino for
play on USA Network, where every time the F word was used, the word
Freak was substituted, which led to the unintentionally hilarious
scene near the end when Sharon Stone screams at Robert DeNiro "Freak
you, Sam Rothstein. Freak you."
william
> On Apr 17, 10:40 am, forn...@webtv.net (S D) wrote:
>
> The worst dubbing I have ever heard was the dubbing for Jackie
> Gleason's profanity in Smokey and the Bandit when it plays on TBS. It
> didn't even sound like Gleason, it sounded like Fred Flintstone was
> doing the dubbing.
>
"The Maltese Falcon" where near the end someone says "It's a fake. A
fake" or something along those lines. Doesn't sound like Sydney
Greenstreet or anyone else in the film.
William
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nanwynnfan
william wrote:
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> >
>[quote] The worst dubbing that comes to mind -- among a host of others -- is
> "The Maltese Falcon" where near the end someone says "It's a fake. A
> fake" or something along those lines. Doesn't sound like Sydney
> Greenstreet or anyone else in the film.[/quote]
Thank you. I thought I was the only one with fractured ears over that
one.
Stacia
>
> The worst dubbing that comes to mind -- among a host of others -- is
> "The Maltese Falcon" where near the end someone says "It's a fake. A
> fake" or something along those lines. Doesn't sound like Sydney
> Greenstreet or anyone else in the film.
I agree, it sounds like Greenstreet is in another room with
completely different acoustics.
Speaking of dubbing, I discovered recently that Peter Sellers did
dubbing for several voices in "Beat the Devil." However, the story
that he dubbed Bogey because of injuries Bogey sustained in a car
accident appears to be untrue.
Stacia
tomcervo
decision by far was when Glenn Close was picked to dub Andie
McDowell's entire role in "Greystoke". Not that it's seen too often
anymore, but even then there was a slight disconnect hearing that well
known voice from a strange mouth; today, McDowell's voice is as well
known as Close's, and it's even weirder.
Even odder--seeing the old, badly dubbed "Mad Max" on crap cable when
everyone knows that Mel Gibson doesn't sound like a game show
announcer, and that Steve Bisley's lines are a lot funnier when he
delivers them himself.
Madara0806
Angie Dickinson dubbed Sarita Montiel in Sam Fuller's RUN OF THE ARROW
(1957).