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SSS DDD

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Jun 3, 2011, 6:17:01 PM6/3/11
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Mitchum : A Killer In The Family .... TVM : old Bob escapes from prison
joins sons, kills off carjacked family.

Smokie Darling (Annie)

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Jun 3, 2011, 10:12:36 PM6/3/11
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On Friday, June 3, 2011 4:17:01 PM UTC-6, SSS DDD wrote:
> Mitchum : A Killer In The Family .... TVM : old Bob escapes from prison
> joins sons, kills off carjacked family.

Gotcha beat.... Richard Widmark as Tommy Udo... Kiss of Death. Wheel chair and stairs, need I say more?

Javier Bardem in No Country for Old Men.

Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Richie Nix in Killshot.

Gian Maria Volonté as Indio in For a Few Dollars More

Henry Fonda as Frank in Once Upon a Time in the West

moviePig

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Jun 3, 2011, 10:35:32 PM6/3/11
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On Jun 3, 10:12 pm, "Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1...@yahoo.com>
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Shane: So you're Jack Wilson.
Jack Wilson: What's that mean to you, Shane?
Shane: I've heard about you.
Jack Wilson: What have you heard, Shane?
Shane: I've heard that you're a low-down Yankee liar.
Jack Wilson: Prove it.

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tomcervo

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Jun 4, 2011, 1:20:26 AM6/4/11
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Walker--dead, and he doesn't even know it.

Michael O'Connor

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Jun 4, 2011, 8:01:43 AM6/4/11
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> Javier Bardem in No Country for Old Men.

In some ways I think the Coen Brothers may have based Anton Chiggurh a
little on The Terminator. Chiggurh was a killing machine without
remorse or compassion, with a single goal of getting the money back
and killing everybody who gets in his way.

I would also put Michael Madsen in Reservoir Dogs into this category,
for torturing a cop because he thought it would be fun.

trotsky

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Jun 4, 2011, 8:30:45 AM6/4/11
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On 6/4/11 7:01 AM, Michael O'Connor wrote:
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>> Javier Bardem in No Country for Old Men.
>
> In some ways I think the Coen Brothers may have based Anton Chiggurh a
> little on The Terminator. Chiggurh was a killing machine without
> remorse or compassion, with a single goal of getting the money back
> and killing everybody who gets in his way.


Except that he gave people the chance to live with a coin flip.

Sol L. Siegel

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Jun 4, 2011, 9:15:44 AM6/4/11
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The killers played by Billy Bob Thornton and Michael Beach
in "One False Move."

And while we're on the subject: the killers (especially
Lee Marvin) in the two versions of "The Killers."

- Sol L. Siegel, Philadelphia, PA USA

Flasherly

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Jun 4, 2011, 10:36:59 AM6/4/11
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On Jun 3, 10:35 pm, moviePig <pwall...@moviepig.com> wrote:
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> Shane: So you're Jack Wilson.
> Jack Wilson: What's that mean to you, Shane?
> Shane: I've heard about you.
> Jack Wilson: What have you heard, Shane?
> Shane: I've heard that you're a low-down Yankee liar.
> Jack Wilson: Prove it.

I know where that dialogue can be found. Verbatim from when Fast Eddy
and the Fat Man first meet.

moviePig

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Jun 4, 2011, 11:03:30 AM6/4/11
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Pretty good shooting, Flash...

Minnesota Fats: Do you like to gamble, Eddie? Gamble money on pool
games?
Fast Eddie: Fats, let's you and me shoot a game of straight pool.
Minnesota Fats: Hundred dollars?
Fast Eddie: Well, you shoot big time pool, Fats. I mean, that's what
everybody says: you shoot big time pool. Let's make it $200 a game.
Minnesota Fats: Now I know why they call you Fast Eddie.

SSS DDD

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Jun 4, 2011, 11:12:36 AM6/4/11
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second choice after Mitchum: the pair in the original Funny Games, the
bit on the boat just right

calvin

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Jun 4, 2011, 11:48:12 AM6/4/11
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On Jun 4, 11:12 am, forn...@webtv.net (SSS DDD) wrote:
> second choice after Mitchum: the pair in the original Funny Games, the
> bit on the boat just right

I don't think they should be allowed, because they
were not real even within the story.

Halmyre

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Jun 4, 2011, 12:03:08 PM6/4/11
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On Jun 3, 11:17 pm, forn...@webtv.net (SSS DDD) wrote:
> Mitchum : A Killer In The Family .... TVM : old Bob escapes from prison
> joins sons, kills off carjacked family.

Willard in Apocalypse now, when he shoots the woman on the boat.
The guy who shoots the little girl at the beginning of Assault on
Precinct 13.
Nice Guy Eddie in Reservoir Dogs when he shoots the policeman.
Cody Jarrett in White Heat "I'll give ya a little air".

--
Halmyre

Flasherly

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Jun 4, 2011, 12:37:07 PM6/4/11
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On Jun 4, 11:03 am, moviePig <pwall...@moviepig.com> wrote:
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> Pretty good shooting, Flash...

Are you kidding me, Pig? I'm the best you've ever seen.

<. . .game's not over until Fats says it's over.>
I beat him all night, and I'm going to beat him all day. I'm the best
there is.

. . . Stay with this kid. He's a loser.
What did he say?

. . .Let's go, Eddie.
You look beautiful, Fats. Just like a baby.

Hey, Fats?

Eddie.

Eddie. . .

Where do you live?
Around.
. . .I know where you live.

What time's the bus leave?
What bus?
. . .Yours.

Don't you trust me, Mac?
. . .Check.

You talk funny, but I like it.
I used to be an actress.

What should my name be?
You want to know its meaning?

Whatever you like it to be.
. . I could always get us a bottle.
Do you want me to step out in the alley?

. . .No.

I'm not drunk.
I'm lame.
When I'm drunk, I lie.

You want to go out? To a movie?
. . .No.

I'd show you to the door, but...
Yeah, you're tired.
And beat.

. . .Yeah.

Shoot pool, Fast Eddie.
. . .I'm shooting pool, Fats.
When I miss, you can shoot.

SSS DDD

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Jun 4, 2011, 12:41:24 PM6/4/11
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they were real

mikeos

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Jun 4, 2011, 1:19:26 PM6/4/11
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On 04/06/2011 17:03, Halmyre wrote:
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> The guy who shoots the little girl at the beginning of Assault on
> Precinct 13.

No, that was a social service!

william

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Jun 4, 2011, 1:26:08 PM6/4/11
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"That's not vanilla swirl."

calvin

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Jun 4, 2011, 1:31:01 PM6/4/11
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On Jun 4, 12:41 pm, forn...@webtv.net (SSS DDD) wrote:
> they were real [the killers in Funny Games]

SPOILER BELOW

Real (within the story) up until the moment when one of them
picked up a remote and 'rewound' the story to eliminate
an act of defense by one of the victims.

It's true that the act of defense was a longed-for and
satisfying act of war and revenge that the self-righteous
director used to 'educate' us viewers about our 'base'
motivations, but it was still an act of defense. However,
once the director shattered his own story, there was no
more reality within it.

Smokie Darling (Annie)

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Jun 4, 2011, 2:49:07 PM6/4/11
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On Friday, June 3, 2011 8:35:32 PM UTC-6, moviePig wrote:
> On Jun 3, 10:12 pm, "Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnab...@yahoo.com>

> wrote:
> > On Friday, June 3, 2011 4:17:01 PM UTC-6, SSS DDD wrote:
> > > Mitchum : A Killer In The Family .... TVM : old Bob escapes from prison
> > > joins sons, kills off carjacked family.
> >
> > Gotcha beat....  Richard Widmark as Tommy Udo...  Kiss of Death.  Wheel chair and stairs, need I say more?
> >
> > Javier Bardem in No Country for Old Men.
> >
> > Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Richie Nix in Killshot.
> >
> > Gian Maria Volonté as Indio in For a Few Dollars More
> >
> > Henry Fonda as Frank in Once Upon a Time in the West
>
> Shane: So you're Jack Wilson.
> Jack Wilson: What's that mean to you, Shane?
> Shane: I've heard about you.
> Jack Wilson: What have you heard, Shane?
> Shane: I've heard that you're a low-down Yankee liar.
> Jack Wilson: Prove it.

I'm still thinking that Widmark wins with the giggle as he watches the woman fall down the stairs (without saying a whole lot). He was pretty cold blooded. (the other names came from the spouse).

Smokie Darling (Annie)

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Jun 4, 2011, 2:51:10 PM6/4/11
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On Saturday, June 4, 2011 6:01:43 AM UTC-6, Michael O&#39;Connor wrote:
> > Javier Bardem in No Country for Old Men.
>
> In some ways I think the Coen Brothers may have based Anton Chiggurh a
> little on The Terminator. Chiggurh was a killing machine without
> remorse or compassion, with a single goal of getting the money back
> and killing everybody who gets in his way.

I can see that. Even the coin flip, mentioned by trotsky doesn't give him any 'kudos' (for lack of a better word). He was a nasty bastard. Would we bet sociopath or psychopath for him?

> I would also put Michael Madsen in Reservoir Dogs into this category,
> for torturing a cop because he thought it would be fun.

Oooh, I'd forgotten about him. He does that steely eyed thing really well, doesn't he?

SSS DDD

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Jun 4, 2011, 4:26:36 PM6/4/11
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are you referencing the Scadinavian film ? it's been a long time but my
recollection is plop in the drink then the end

calvin

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Jun 4, 2011, 5:38:19 PM6/4/11
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On Jun 4, 4:26 pm, forn...@webtv.net (SSS DDD) wrote:
> are you referencing the Scadinavian film ? it's been a long time but my
> recollection is plop in the drink then the end

I'm referring to Haneke's 1997 and 2007 editions
of Funny Games. I've seen them both. Yes, the
last murder is 'plop in the drink' (after a kiss goodby),
with more murders to come, implied at the very end.
But at that point there is no story. The director has
seen to that earlier, as I described.

Obveeus

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Jun 4, 2011, 5:43:31 PM6/4/11
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"Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnab...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Robert Blake as 'Perry Smith' and Scott Wilson as 'Dick Hickock'.


Michael O'Connor

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Jun 4, 2011, 8:10:01 PM6/4/11
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Which is IMO a really sick way to decide who lives and who dies.

George

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Jun 4, 2011, 8:41:03 PM6/4/11
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for...@webtv.net (SSS DDD) wrote:

>Mitchum : A Killer In The Family .... TVM : old Bob escapes from prison
>joins sons, kills off carjacked family.

I'd add Mitchum in _The Night of the Hunter_.

Wull

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"George" <george...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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What about the most cold-blooded female? I nominate Uma Therman in the
"Kill Bill" movies.

Wull


Blue

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On Jun 3, 6:17 pm, forn...@webtv.net (SSS DDD) wrote:
> Mitchum : A Killer In The Family .... TVM : old Bob escapes from prison
> joins sons, kills off carjacked family.

Not a movie, but a tv episode of "Naked City" in 1962 with Rip Torn,
doin' stuff fer Tuesday, how 'bout it.

George

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Jun 5, 2011, 2:37:44 AM6/5/11
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Simone Signoret and Véra Clouzot in the original 1955 Diabolique.
--
George Ruch
"Is there life in Clovis after Clovis Man?"

SSS DDD

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Jun 5, 2011, 11:11:49 AM6/5/11
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I must have forgotten that bit, tho now it rings a faint bell so can't
go into the effect it was intended to have, or had ; by your logic
there is not anything "real" in the film at all. Most films are unreal
fiction, so for me it remains real in film world reality.

Smokie Darling (Annie)

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Jun 5, 2011, 11:53:23 AM6/5/11
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You know, I don't think of Kiddo being cold blooded. She did what she had to do for revenge. A very hot blooded thing. She didn't do things just to watch someone die horribly (well, not every time anyway).

I think George might have it, the original Diabolique (or perhaps the *only* Diabolique <grin>).

Anim8rFSK

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Jun 5, 2011, 4:21:46 PM6/5/11
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The Thing (James Arness version)

With a runner up to The Creature From The Black Lagoon.

--
"Please, I can't die, I've never kissed an Asian woman!"
Shego on "Shat My Dad Says"

Obveeus

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"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
> The Thing (James Arness version)
>
> With a runner up to The Creature From The Black Lagoon.

Cold blooded? I thought it was in heat.


calvin

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Jun 5, 2011, 5:16:12 PM6/5/11
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My point was not that it was fiction, but that within
the fictional story, the 'reality' was destroyed when
the young murderer picked up a remote and 'rewound'
the movie we were watching to eliminate the scene where
his sidekick was blown away by one of the victims. Then
he made sure that the gun could not be grabbed and used
by the one who had done so. Apparently you don't
remember that, but I don't see how you could forget it.

SSS DDD

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Jun 5, 2011, 5:52:08 PM6/5/11
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thanks for the fill in . If a film had alternative endings the effect
should be the same.

calvin

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Jun 5, 2011, 6:28:46 PM6/5/11
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On Jun 5, 5:52 pm, forn...@webtv.net (SSS DDD) wrote:
> thanks for the fill in . If a film had alternative endings the effect
> should be the same.

Haneke had a statement to make by doing this.
But I don't want to repeat what I said about it
upthread.

SSS DDD

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Jun 5, 2011, 6:58:06 PM6/5/11
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going with your backfill I disagree about the purpose : I see it as a
thumb in the eye to the viewer who is on the side of the family.....so
there

calvin

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Maybe you're right. Boys will be boys, after all.
The family was just too uptight.

George

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"Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnab...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Saturday, June 4, 2011 6:50:15 PM UTC-6, Wull wrote:
>> "George" <george...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:o0klu69hr1gpafk6g...@4ax.com...
>> > for...@webtv.net (SSS DDD) wrote:
>> >
>> >>Mitchum : A Killer In The Family .... TVM : old Bob escapes from prison
>> >>joins sons, kills off carjacked family.
>> >
>> > I'd add Mitchum in _The Night of the Hunter_.
>>
>> What about the most cold-blooded female? I nominate Uma Therman in the
>> "Kill Bill" movies.
>>
>You know, I don't think of Kiddo being cold blooded. She did what she had to do for revenge. A very hot blooded thing. She didn't do things just to watch someone die horribly (well, not every time anyway).
>
>I think George might have it, the original Diabolique (or perhaps the *only* Diabolique <grin>).

And one I should have remembered earlier: Angela Lansbury in _The
Manchurian Candidate_.

art...@yahoo.com

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On Jun 5, 2:37 am, George <george.ruc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Wull" <wmai...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >"George" <george.ruc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:o0klu69hr1gpafk6g...@4ax.com...

> >> forn...@webtv.net (SSS DDD) wrote:
>
> >>>Mitchum : A Killer In The Family .... TVM : old Bob escapes from prison
> >>>joins sons, kills off carjacked family.
>
> >> I'd add Mitchum in _The Night of the Hunter_.
>
> >What about the most cold-blooded female?  I nominate Uma Therman in the
> >"Kill Bill" movies.
>
> Simone Signoret and Véra Clouzot in the original 1955 Diabolique.

Linda Fiorentino in "The Last Seduction"

Howard Brazee

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On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 13:21:46 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net>
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>The Thing (James Arness version)
>
>With a runner up to The Creature From The Black Lagoon.

Was it cold blooded? I guess we should think of reptiles,
amphibians, and alien creatures of undetermined blood temperature.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

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Anim8rFSK

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In article <ttiou69crft72i33l...@4ax.com>,
Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 13:21:46 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
> >The Thing (James Arness version)
> >
> >With a runner up to The Creature From The Black Lagoon.
>
> Was it cold blooded? I guess we should think of reptiles,
> amphibians, and alien creatures of undetermined blood temperature.

Fair point; IIRC the Creature is supposed to be the missing link between
amphibian and man, so maybe it's lukewarm. :)

Howard Brazee

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On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 16:39:08 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net>
wrote:

>> >The Thing (James Arness version)
>> >
>> >With a runner up to The Creature From The Black Lagoon.
>>
>> Was it cold blooded? I guess we should think of reptiles,
>> amphibians, and alien creatures of undetermined blood temperature.
>
>Fair point; IIRC the Creature is supposed to be the missing link between
>amphibian and man, so maybe it's lukewarm. :)

As warm as Luke? (How about lukecool, luketall, or lukesmart?)

Dave in Toronto

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On Jun 11, 7:39 pm, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article <ttiou69crft72i33l34svvohhms4oh3...@4ax.com>,
>  Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 13:21:46 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net>

Dave in Toronto

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On Jun 11, 7:39 pm, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article <ttiou69crft72i33l34svvohhms4oh3...@4ax.com>,
>  Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 13:21:46 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net>

> > wrote:
>
> > >The Thing (James Arness version)
>
> > >With a runner up to The Creature From The Black Lagoon.
>
> > Was it cold blooded?   I guess we should think of reptiles,
> > amphibians, and alien creatures of undetermined blood temperature.
>
> Fair point; IIRC the Creature is supposed to be the missing link between
> amphibian and man, so maybe it's lukewarm. :)
>
> --
Well it certainly got the hots for Julie Adams and I don't blame it.

Dave M

Brad Filippone

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Jun 11, 2011, 11:47:29 PM6/11/11
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Did anyone else consider Clancy Brown from "Shoot to Kill?"

Brad

The Loan Arranger

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"SLGreg" <SLG...@madeitup.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 08:48:12 -0700 (PDT), calvin
> <cri...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
>>On Jun 4, 11:12 am, forn...@webtv.net (SSS DDD) wrote:
>>> second choice after Mitchum: the pair in the original Funny Games, the
>>> bit on the boat just right
>>
>>I don't think they should be allowed, because they
>>were not real even within the story.
>
> Robert Mitchum in "Cape Fear."

Cagney as Cody Jarret in "White Heat" - love the scene where he shoots the guy
in the trunk of the car!


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