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Mr. Hole the Magnificent

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By Steven Zeitchik

EXCLUSIVE: Fresh off Disney's massive success with Tim Burton's "Alice
in Wonderland," Warner Bros. wants to remake another childhood
classic. Like, really classic.

The studio is examining two existing "Wizard of Oz" projects, with an
eye toward giving one of them a modern gloss and moving it toward the
screen.

One project, called "Oz," currently lives at Warner's New Line label.
It's being produced by Temple Hill, which is behind a little franchise
called "Twilight," and has a script written by Darren Lemke, a writer
on the upcoming "Shrek Forever After."

A second "Wizard of Oz" project, set up at Warners proper, skews a
little darker -- it's written by "A History of Violence" screenwriter
Josh Olson and focuses on a granddaughter of Dorothy who returns to Oz
to fight evil. "Clash of the Titans" producer Basil Iwanyk and his
Thunder Road Pictures are behind that one. ("Spawn" creator Todd
MacFarlane is potentially involved in a producerial capacity, to give
you some idea of the tone.)

While the idea of a new "Wizard of Oz" movie is said to be in the
development, let's-bat-this-around stage, it's been advanced seriously
enough on the lot that representatives for some of the top directors
around Hollywood have been briefed.

The Judy Garland-starring "The Wizard of Oz" from 1939 -- we could
give you the refresher on witches, tin men, Dorothy and everyone else,
but really, do we need to? -- has been given alternative treatments
before. There was the 1978 black-themed film adaptation of the stage
play "The Wiz." And of course about six years ago came the Broadway
adaptation of Gregory Maguire's "Wicked," an alternative story of
girls, witches and Emerald City politics. The property proved a huge
stage hit, prompting a film version that's in development at Universal
and "Wanted" producer Marc Platt.

Audiences are likely to respond to the idea of a new silver screen
"Wizard of Oz" with gusto ("at least the first one was good," said one
colleague we told) or with horror, precisely because the original is
such a classic.

But for Warners, there's plenty of appeal in trying to take the story
of Dorothy & Co. back to the big screen. For one, there's the bonkers
$210 million global opening for "Alice," which shows that if you're
trying to create a mega-blockbuster, one smart way to do it is to take
a title people know and update it for the effects era. And there's a
neat symmetry, since the Technicolor version of the classic film did
for color in the movies what a lot of people say that "Avatar,"
"Alice" -- and now, perhaps, "Wizard" -- could do for 3-D in the
movies.

With its Harry Potter series drawing to an end, Warners also likes the
idea of a franchise, and "Wizard of Oz" and the many books L. Frank
Baum wrote featuring many of the same characters (all of which are in
the public domain) fit the bill nicely. And let's not forget the
property's strong, young female protagonist, hugely in vogue now in
the post -Twilight" and -"Alice" eras.

There could still be questions about the project's title (the book's
"The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" is in the public domain but the movie's
"The Wizard of Oz" is not; it's owned by MGM, whose library is partly
owned by Warner Bros.). And then there's the matter of whether
filmmakers would make the movie with musical elements, as the
original, of course, did. Those questions aside, it could be the
moneymaking formula.

Follow the yellow brick road. It's strewn with CGI, tent poles and 3-
D. And, of course, a little green.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2010/03/wizard-of-oz-remake-new-dorothy.html

David Oberman

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On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:05:59 -0800 (PST), "Mr. Hole the Magnificent"
<classic...@gmail.com> wrote:

>EXCLUSIVE: Fresh off Disney's massive success with Tim Burton's "Alice
>in Wonderland," Warner Bros. wants to remake another childhood
>classic. Like, really classic.
>
>The studio is examining two existing "Wizard of Oz" projects, with an
>eye toward giving one of them a modern gloss and moving it toward the
>screen.

How about a Johnny Depp-Tim Burton phantasmagoria -- leaden, unfunny,
& overlong?


_______

"My basic view is that we did a pretty successful job of putting out a severe financial crisis
and avoiding a Great Depression or Great Deflation type of thing. We saved the economy, but we
kind of lost the public doing it."


-- Timothy Geithner, 2010

Ted Nolan <tednolan>

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Mar 11, 2010, 12:12:10 AM3/11/10
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In article <8ef92fcd-2b57-4aac...@y11g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,

Mr. Hole the Magnificent <classic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>By Steven Zeitchik
>
>EXCLUSIVE: Fresh off Disney's massive success with Tim Burton's "Alice
>in Wonderland," Warner Bros. wants to remake another childhood
>classic. Like, really classic.
>
>The studio is examining two existing "Wizard of Oz" projects, with an
>eye toward giving one of them a modern gloss and moving it toward the
>screen.
>

Of course the last time someone tried to make a good Oz movie, it bombed.

(1985, "Return to Oz": http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089908/ )

And then there's the inconvienient fact that the Baum books are only
loosely related to the movie MGM famously made of the first one.


Ted
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globular

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Mar 11, 2010, 6:49:57 AM3/11/10
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> of Dorothy& Co. back to the big screen. For one, there's the bonkers

> $210 million global opening for "Alice," which shows that if you're
> trying to create a mega-blockbuster, one smart way to do it is to take
> a title people know and update it for the effects era. And there's a
> neat symmetry, since the Technicolor version of the classic film did
> for color in the movies what a lot of people say that "Avatar,"
> "Alice" -- and now, perhaps, "Wizard" -- could do for 3-D in the
> movies.
>
> With its Harry Potter series drawing to an end, Warners also likes the
> idea of a franchise, and "Wizard of Oz" and the many books L. Frank
> Baum wrote featuring many of the same characters (all of which are in
> the public domain) fit the bill nicely. And let's not forget the
> property's strong, young female protagonist, hugely in vogue now in
> the post -Twilight" and -"Alice" eras.
>
> There could still be questions about the project's title (the book's
> "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" is in the public domain but the movie's
> "The Wizard of Oz" is not; it's owned by MGM, whose library is partly
> owned by Warner Bros.). And then there's the matter of whether
> filmmakers would make the movie with musical elements, as the
> original, of course, did. Those questions aside, it could be the
> moneymaking formula.
>
> Follow the yellow brick road. It's strewn with CGI, tent poles and 3-
> D. And, of course, a little green.
>
> http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2010/03/wizard-of-oz-remake-new-dorothy.html

L Frank Baum wrote 14 books! One of them, about the 12th has a scenario
of animals that resembles Animal Farm.
Why can't they make any sequels? Disney made one, but it wasn't very good.

moviePig

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Mar 11, 2010, 9:07:04 AM3/11/10
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On Mar 10, 11:58 pm, David Oberman <DavidOber...@att.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:05:59 -0800 (PST), "Mr. Hole the Magnificent"
>
> <classic.mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >EXCLUSIVE: Fresh off Disney's massive success with Tim Burton's "Alice
> >in Wonderland," Warner Bros. wants to remake another childhood
> >classic. Like, really classic.
>
> >The studio is examining two existing "Wizard of Oz" projects, with an
> >eye toward giving one of them a modern gloss and moving it toward the
> >screen.
>
> How about a Johnny Depp-Tim Burton phantasmagoria -- leaden, unfunny,
> & overlong?

This settles it. I have been officially cast adrift by the
Zeitgeist...

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David Oberman

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Mar 11, 2010, 2:15:20 PM3/11/10
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:07:04 -0800 (PST), moviePig
<pwal...@moviepig.com> wrote:

>> How about a Johnny Depp-Tim Burton phantasmagoria -- leaden, unfunny,
>> & overlong?
>
>This settles it. I have been officially cast adrift by the
>Zeitgeist...

I've always warned you to beware of ME, dude!


_______

We're still the offspring of the Romantic movement,
and still victims of the fallacies of hope.

-- Kenneth Clark, "Civilisation"

moviePig

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Mar 11, 2010, 2:35:44 PM3/11/10
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On Mar 11, 2:15 pm, David Oberman <DavidOber...@att.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:07:04 -0800 (PST), moviePig
>
> <pwall...@moviepig.com> wrote:
> >> How about a Johnny Depp-Tim Burton phantasmagoria -- leaden, unfunny,
> >> & overlong?
>
> >This settles it.  I have been officially cast adrift by the
> >Zeitgeist...
>
> I've always warned you to beware of ME, dude!

Of you *and* your cowardly lyin'...

But what I'm reflecting upon is movie-public that thinks THE WIZARD OF
OZ can anywise be dissociated from 1939 (as I meanwhile wonder which
of its siblings we... well, they... might also salivate over as remake
fodder). Popular taste is a parade that seems no longer to pass my
house...

Invid Fan

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Mar 11, 2010, 5:17:07 PM3/11/10
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In article <7vrcda...@mid.individual.net>, Ted Nolan <tednolan>
<t...@loft.tnolan.com> wrote:

The OZ books would make for a fun multi-season TV series, and you could
probably get the visuals right now. As for movies, I would love to see
them try doing the original OZ stage musical Baum wrote :)

--
Chris Mack "If we show any weakness, the monsters will get cocky!"
'Invid Fan' - 'Yokai Monsters Along With Ghosts'

nick

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> >http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2010/03/wizard-of-oz-remake-ne...

>
> L Frank Baum wrote 14 books!  One of them, about the 12th has a scenario
> of animals that resembles Animal Farm.
> Why can't they make any sequels?  Disney made one, but it wasn't very good.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I thought it was pretty good though I haven't seen it since it first
hit video.

nick

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and once you've been set adrift, it's not long before you're buying
Lawrence Welk season DVDs.

moviePig

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Mar 11, 2010, 5:55:24 PM3/11/10
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Yeah? Wait till you get a LASSIE-remake with a cgi collie...

nick

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Mar 11, 2010, 6:41:15 PM3/11/10
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If CGI Lassie is used for a Cujo remake, I'm all for it.

David Oberman

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On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:34:43 -0800 (PST), nick
<nickmacp...@AOL.com> wrote:

>> > How about a Johnny Depp-Tim Burton phantasmagoria -- leaden, unfunny,
>> > & overlong?
>>
>> This settles it. �I have been officially cast adrift by the
>> Zeitgeist...
>>
>and once you've been set adrift, it's not long before you're buying
>Lawrence Welk season DVDs.

(Oh great. I happen to enjoy watching Welk on Saturdays.)

moviePig

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On Mar 11, 9:29 pm, David Oberman <DavidOber...@att.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:34:43 -0800 (PST), nick
>
> <nickmacpherso...@AOL.com> wrote:
> >> > How about a Johnny Depp-Tim Burton phantasmagoria -- leaden, unfunny,
> >> > & overlong?
>
> >> This settles it. I have been officially cast adrift by the
> >> Zeitgeist...
>
> >and once you've been set adrift, it's not long before you're buying
> >Lawrence Welk season DVDs.
>
> (Oh great. I happen to enjoy watching Welk on Saturdays.)

Hope the neighbors don't complain at the ruckus...

calvin

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On Mar 11, 9:29 pm, David Oberman <DavidOber...@att.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:34:43 -0800 (PST), nick
> <nickmacpherso...@AOL.com> wrote:
> >> > How about a Johnny Depp-Tim Burton phantasmagoria -- leaden, unfunny,
> >> > & overlong?
> >> This settles it. I have been officially cast adrift by the
> >> Zeitgeist...
>
> >and once you've been set adrift, it's not long before you're buying
> >Lawrence Welk season DVDs.
>
> (Oh great. I happen to enjoy watching Welk on Saturdays.)

What exactly is champagne music?

moviePig

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Mar 12, 2010, 8:58:02 AM3/12/10
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Colorless, gaseous, and no hangover... but with full brain-destroying
power...

Message has been deleted

David Oberman

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On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:37:19 -0800 (PST), calvin
<cri...@windstream.net> wrote:

>> (Oh great. I happen to enjoy watching Welk on Saturdays.)
>
>What exactly is champagne music?

Bubbly, old-fashioned tunes.

Tom Sutpen

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On Mar 11, 5:34 pm, nick <nickmacpherso...@AOL.com> wrote:

> > This settles it.  I have been officially cast adrift by the
> > Zeitgeist...
>
> and once you've been set adrift, it's not long before you're buying
> Lawrence Welk season DVDs.

*****
Are those actually available?

Tom Sutpen

moviePig

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Mar 12, 2010, 3:12:31 PM3/12/10
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People return from NDE's with bootleg copies...

moviePig

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On Mar 12, 11:32 am, David Oberman <DavidOber...@att.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:37:19 -0800 (PST), calvin
>
> <cri...@windstream.net> wrote:
> >> (Oh great. I happen to enjoy watching Welk on Saturdays.)
>
> >What exactly is champagne music?
>
> Bubbly, old-fashioned tunes.

Admit it, David. It's the Lennon Sisters, isn't it...

calvin

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On Mar 12, 11:32 am, David Oberman <DavidOber...@att.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:37:19 -0800 (PST), calvin
> <cri...@windstream.net> wrote:
> >> (Oh great. I happen to enjoy watching Welk on Saturdays.)
>
> >What exactly is champagne music?
>
> Bubbly, old-fashioned tunes.

Back when my parents were from 50 to 60 years old they
both liked Welk. Aside from the music, my father thought
the show had excellent production values, and my mother
followed the people, especially those who had family pictures
to show, and those performers who were married to each other.
And she always wanted to see what everyone was wearing.
I think my mother watched reruns on cable for many years.

nick

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On Mar 11, 9:29 pm, David Oberman <DavidOber...@att.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:34:43 -0800 (PST), nick
>
> <nickmacpherso...@AOL.com> wrote:
> >> > How about a Johnny Depp-Tim Burton phantasmagoria -- leaden, unfunny,
> >> > & overlong?
>
> >> This settles it. I have been officially cast adrift by the
> >> Zeitgeist...
>
> >and once you've been set adrift, it's not long before you're buying
> >Lawrence Welk season DVDs.
>
> (Oh great. I happen to enjoy watching Welk on Saturdays.)
>
I've been cast a drift from the zeitgeist too. The perfectly
acceptable weekend preview section in our local paper switched over to
some fake psued-city paper filled with profiles of the latest
scenesters. Every week now, a scenester of the week getting
profiled. I'm not even sure what a scenester is. I don't think I've
ever been a scenester. All I know is while you're watching Lawrence
Welk on a Saturday, the scenesters are just then stumbling in from a
very long Friday night of scene-ing.

moviePig

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I suspect it designates those who are scene rather than herd...

calvin

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Mar 12, 2010, 6:54:26 PM3/12/10
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Besides being a good pun, those four words sadly
epitomize generation after generation of peer-pressured
social posturing.

Scene and herd are not mutually exclusive either, as
illustrated by the crowds/lines of young people waiting
outside of the hip (or whatever the current word is)
nightspots for their turn to be part of that night's scene.

Bill Anderson

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Nah. If you've scene one you've scene 'em all.

--
Bill Anderson

I am the Mighty Favog

David Oberman

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On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:02:28 -0800 (PST), nick
<nickmacp...@AOL.com> wrote:

>I've been cast a drift from the zeitgeist too. The perfectly
>acceptable weekend preview section in our local paper switched over to
>some fake psued-city paper filled with profiles of the latest
>scenesters. Every week now, a scenester of the week getting
>profiled. I'm not even sure what a scenester is. I don't think I've
>ever been a scenester. All I know is while you're watching Lawrence
>Welk on a Saturday, the scenesters are just then stumbling in from a
>very long Friday night of scene-ing.

The way you guys make it sound, I guess I am kind of an old fogie. I'm
just not that old yet.

I even shared a Welk video on Tom's Facebook page. It's one of my
favorite songs of all time, & this particular rendition is rousing &
righteous.

globular

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Mar 13, 2010, 6:46:40 AM3/13/10
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There's a lot of well known books they can't seem to capture properly in
movies. Probably nothing wrong with it, just doesn't seem to capture
the mood very well. Think of the mood and feel of a series like Lost In
Space, that is how to capture the Oz books.

nick

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I used to watch Welk when I was younger with my parents. Maybe there
was something coming on after it we were going to watch. That was the
thing about television before cable--you'd be exposed to things you
normally wouldn't be interested in only because there was nothing else
on. So I'd watch Lawrence Welk *and* Soul Train. Now, with the
Internet, digital channels, etc., you don't have to be exposed to
things outside your own interests, which isn't a good thing because
all you're doing is reinforcing your own tastes.

moviePig

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Mar 13, 2010, 8:46:39 AM3/13/10
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I used to watch Welk with -- respectfully -- my crazy great-aunt...
which, because I was so young, was more a matter of *enforcing* my
tastes. Fortunately, the parodists arrived before the concrete was
set. In my mind's nightmare about retirement homes and Alzheimer's,
Welk is always on the victrola...

nick

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Mar 13, 2010, 9:18:30 AM3/13/10
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My mind's nightmare on the nature of aging in all its dismal glory was
literalized a few years back. I was called over to a house next to my
workplace. I must have made the misake of stepping outside for a
second. The elderly lady who lived in the house had collapsed in the
living room and it was necessary for someone to be with her until the
paramedics and younger relatives showed up. So I was standing there
looking at this elderly lady prostrate on the ground in the middle of
her living room, dominated by a bookshelf full of what looked like VHS
tapes of every movie Shirley Temple ever made. I thought, this is it,
this is what the end of the road looks like, half dead on the ground
surrounded by things that remind you of when you were younger. The
Good Old Days and nostalgia are scary things.
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calvin

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Those are fairly benign compared to 'mistakes made',
'opportunities lost', and What Might Have Been.

moviePig

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No journey so ideal
as the road long since untaken,
nor present can appeal
like a past we can't awaken.

-- Robert Frigidaire

David Oberman

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On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:48:14 -0800 (PST), nick
<nickmacp...@AOL.com> wrote:

>I used to watch Welk when I was younger with my parents. Maybe there
>was something coming on after it we were going to watch. That was the
>thing about television before cable--you'd be exposed to things you
>normally wouldn't be interested in only because there was nothing else
>on. So I'd watch Lawrence Welk *and* Soul Train. Now, with the
>Internet, digital channels, etc., you don't have to be exposed to
>things outside your own interests, which isn't a good thing because
>all you're doing is reinforcing your own tastes.

How very true, Nicholas. Remember how "lineups" stretched out for
entire evenings, & the sum total of shows in the lineup had a spirit
all its own, characteristic of the day of the week?

For example, Friday night on ABC was THE BRADY BUNCH followed by THE
PARTRIDGE FAMILY. Saturday nights on CBS was memorable: ALL IN THE
FAMILY followed by MARY TYLER MOORE followed by BOB NEWHART SHOW
followed by CAROL BURNETT SHOW.

David Oberman

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On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 05:46:39 -0800 (PST), moviePig
<pwal...@moviepig.com> wrote:

>I used to watch Welk with -- respectfully -- my crazy great-aunt...
>which, because I was so young, was more a matter of *enforcing* my
>tastes. Fortunately, the parodists arrived before the concrete was
>set. In my mind's nightmare about retirement homes and Alzheimer's,
>Welk is always on the victrola...

I love Lawrence Welk!! How come you guys not like Welk? I like
listening to old-fashioned tunes performed in an old-fashioned way,
redolent of summer afternoons sipping lemonade on the front porch,
watching the children run through the sprinklers on the vast expanse
of lawn, smelling the magnolia & the lilac & jasmine while mom is
cooking dinner. Why, just last night I was watching Sam Fuller's
PICKUP ON SOUTH STREET & enjoying the beautiful song AGAIN by Lionel
Newman.

See Agee's "Knoxville: Summer 1915."

David Oberman

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On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:43:19 -0800 (PST), moviePig
<pwal...@moviepig.com> wrote:

>No journey so ideal
>as the road long since untaken,
>nor present can appeal
>like a past we can't awaken.
>
> -- Robert Frigidaire

I loved a lass, a fair one,
As fair as e'er was seen,
She was indeed a rare one,
Another Sheba queen
But fool as then I was,
I thought she loved me too;
But now, alas! sh' 'as left me,
Falero, lero, loo.
--George Wither

moviePig

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On Mar 13, 12:51 pm, David Oberman <DavidOber...@att.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:43:19 -0800 (PST), moviePig
>
> <pwall...@moviepig.com> wrote:
> >No journey so ideal
> >as the road long since untaken,
> >nor present can appeal
> >like a past we can't awaken.
>
> >    -- Robert Frigidaire
>
> I loved a lass, a fair one,
>   As fair as e'er was seen,
> She was indeed a rare one,
>   Another Sheba queen
> But fool as then I was,
>   I thought she loved me too;
> But now, alas! sh' 'as left me,
> Falero, lero, loo.
>        --George Wither

(I'm not sure his last line ought to exemplify, for budding poets, the
'rhyme juste'. How about, "A sad turn of the screw." Or even,
"Here's looking, kid, at you."...)

calvin

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On Mar 13, 10:43 am, moviePig <pwall...@moviepig.com> wrote:
> On Mar 13, 9:39 am, calvin <cri...@windstream.net> wrote:
> > On Mar 13, 9:18 am, nick <nickmacpherso...@AOL.com> wrote:
> > > ... The Good Old Days and nostalgia are scary things.

> > Those are fairly benign compared to 'mistakes made',
> > 'opportunities lost', and What Might Have Been.
>
> No journey so ideal
> as the road long since untaken,
> nor present can appeal
> like a past we can't awaken.
>
>     -- Robert Frigidaire

Because of the poet's name given, I assume
that you wrote it. Nice work. Or maybe it is
a variation on a poem by Robert Frost. I just
don't know.

David Oberman

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On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:15:12 -0800 (PST), moviePig
<pwal...@moviepig.com> wrote:

>(I'm not sure his last line ought to exemplify, for budding poets, the
>'rhyme juste'. How about, "A sad turn of the screw." Or even,
>"Here's looking, kid, at you."...)

Both excellent, especially the latter.
This stanza was from a book "Really Bad Poetry."

David Oberman

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On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:25:18 -0800 (PST), calvin
<cri...@windstream.net> wrote:

>> No journey so ideal
>> as the road long since untaken,
>> nor present can appeal
>> like a past we can't awaken.
>>
>>     -- Robert Frigidaire
>
>Because of the poet's name given, I assume
>that you wrote it. Nice work. Or maybe it is
>a variation on a poem by Robert Frost. I just
>don't know.

It might be a modern English rendering of an Anglo-Saxon spiritual
quest (without the alliteration & the swallow-as-spirit imagery).

moviePig

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On Mar 13, 2:42 pm, David Oberman <DavidOber...@att.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:15:12 -0800 (PST), moviePig
>
> <pwall...@moviepig.com> wrote:
> >(I'm not sure his last line ought to exemplify, for budding poets, the
> >'rhyme juste'.  How about, "A sad turn of the screw."  Or even,
> >"Here's looking, kid, at you."...)
>
> Both excellent, especially the latter.
> This stanza was from a book "Really Bad Poetry."

(Well, the first one's at least ribald...)

This put me on a train of thought to immortal song lyrics that maybe
shouldn't be. E.g., what is one to make of:

Salagadoola
Mechicka boola
Bibbidi-bobbidi-boo.

Put 'em together and
what have you got?
Bibbidi-bobbidi-boo!

I mean, how many sleepless nights did the lyricist spend tinkering
with this verse? How long, e.g., do we suppose it took him to work
past "Bibbidi-bobbidi-plotz"?

Invid Fan

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In article <hhjnp5p1ia1ep2sil...@4ax.com>, David Oberman
<DavidO...@att.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 05:46:39 -0800 (PST), moviePig
> <pwal...@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
> >I used to watch Welk with -- respectfully -- my crazy great-aunt...
> >which, because I was so young, was more a matter of *enforcing* my
> >tastes. Fortunately, the parodists arrived before the concrete was
> >set. In my mind's nightmare about retirement homes and Alzheimer's,
> >Welk is always on the victrola...
>
> I love Lawrence Welk!! How come you guys not like Welk?

I'm trying to remember who the quote is from but a TV star was asked
why his show was always getting beaten by Lawrence Welk and he
answered, "He's funnier."

--
Chris Mack "If we show any weakness, the monsters will get cocky!"
'Invid Fan' - 'Yokai Monsters Along With Ghosts'

David Oberman

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On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:58:13 -0800 (PST), moviePig
<pwal...@moviepig.com> wrote:

> Salagadoola
> Mechicka boola
> Bibbidi-bobbidi-boo.
>
> Put 'em together and
> what have you got?
> Bibbidi-bobbidi-boo!
>
>I mean, how many sleepless nights did the lyricist spend tinkering
>with this verse? How long, e.g., do we suppose it took him to work
>past "Bibbidi-bobbidi-plotz"?

We used to sing that one in the dorm at U.C. Santa Barbara.

As a joke, of course.

They were probably singing that the night they burned down the Bank of
America branch in Isla Vista back in the '60s.

Jim Nason

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"Mr. Hole the Magnificent" <classic...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> of Dorothy & Co. back to the big screen. For one, there's the bonkers

> $210 million global opening for "Alice," which shows that if you're
> trying to create a mega-blockbuster, one smart way to do it is to take
> a title people know and update it for the effects era. And there's a
> neat symmetry, since the Technicolor version of the classic film did
> for color in the movies what a lot of people say that "Avatar,"
> "Alice" -- and now, perhaps, "Wizard" -- could do for 3-D in the
> movies.
>
> With its Harry Potter series drawing to an end, Warners also likes the
> idea of a franchise, and "Wizard of Oz" and the many books L. Frank
> Baum wrote featuring many of the same characters (all of which are in
> the public domain) fit the bill nicely. And let's not forget the
> property's strong, young female protagonist, hugely in vogue now in
> the post -Twilight" and -"Alice" eras.
>
> There could still be questions about the project's title (the book's
> "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" is in the public domain but the movie's
> "The Wizard of Oz" is not; it's owned by MGM, whose library is partly
> owned by Warner Bros.). And then there's the matter of whether
> filmmakers would make the movie with musical elements, as the
> original, of course, did. Those questions aside, it could be the
> moneymaking formula.
>
> Follow the yellow brick road. It's strewn with CGI, tent poles and 3-
> D. And, of course, a little green.
>
> http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2010/03/wizard-of-oz-remake-new-dorothy.html

How about a remake of "Gone with the Wind," starring Brad Pitt and Angelina
Jolie? Christophe Waltz could play Ashley Wilkes.

(Just kidding-I hope),

Jim Nason


nick

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> "Mr. Hole the Magnificent" <classic.mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:8ef92fcd-2b57-4aac...@y11g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> >http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2010/03/wizard-of-oz-remake-ne...

>
> How about a remake of "Gone with the Wind," starring Brad Pitt and Angelina
> Jolie? Christophe Waltz could play Ashley Wilkes.
>
> (Just kidding-I hope),
>
> Jim Nason- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Scarlett's only seventeen when Gone With the Wind opens so there's
only one current actress with what it takes for the part: Miley
Cyrus. Her dad could play Gerald.

Since Jason Bateman is a character actor who improves everything he's
in, I'd cast him as Ashley. Gabourey Sidibe as Mammy. George
Clooney is the ideal modern Rhett but I'm not sure if he'd have the
necessary chemistry with Miley.

calvin

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On Mar 13, 6:37 pm, nick <nickmacpherso...@AOL.com> wrote:
> Scarlett's only seventeen when Gone With the Wind opens so there's
> only one current actress with what it takes for the part:  Miley
> Cyrus.  Her dad could play Gerald.
>
> Since Jason Bateman is a character actor who improves everything he's
> in, I'd cast him as Ashley.   Gabourey Sidibe as Mammy.  George
> Clooney is the ideal modern Rhett but I'm not sure if he'd have the
> necessary chemistry with Miley.

But who could ever play Scarlett's mother, Ellen?
What actress has the looks and gravitas to compete
with Barbara O'Neil's powerful presence?

David Oberman

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On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:15:20 -0800 (PST), calvin
<cri...@windstream.net> wrote:

>But who could ever play Scarlett's mother, Ellen?
>What actress has the looks and gravitas to compete
>with Barbara O'Neil's powerful presence?

Brenda Dickson looks the part, & could act it right down to the
ground. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfIpBBglvXA&feature=related

calvin

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Mar 13, 2010, 10:43:13 PM3/13/10
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On Mar 13, 10:31 pm, David Oberman <DavidOber...@att.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:15:20 -0800 (PST), calvin
>
> <cri...@windstream.net> wrote:
> >But who could ever play Scarlett's mother, Ellen?
> >What actress has the looks and gravitas to compete
> >with Barbara O'Neil's powerful presence?
>
> Brenda Dickson looks the part, & could act it right down to the
> ground.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfIpBBglvXA&feature=related

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