2 Films I could not get though
Stone me
portrayals and style as serious. Probably a cultural thing,
although I have watched other styles which I did see through.
This image captures the alien feel I got.
http://img338.imageshack.us/i/vlcsnap64940fj3.png/#q=imdb
I know that some rate it as India's greatest film, too.
Pavillion of Women(2001). Just did not raise itself above a
cheap "romance" novel. Yan Luo was the only highlight.
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3227752704/nm0526839
Stone me.
calvin
steve
On 23-Sep-2009, calvin <cri...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Earlier this week I couldn't get through 'The Wild One'.
Too bad, Calvin. It's funny as hell, right down to the obviously-in-studio
shots of MB riding his triumph. The motorcycle gang members act like junior
high nerds...not menacing so much as boorish and idiotic. It amazes me that
anyone ever took this fillm seriously.
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Gadsden Flag
sirblob2
>
> Pavillion of Women(2001). Just did not raise itself above a
> cheap "romance" novel. Yan Luo was the only highlight.http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3227752704/nm0526839
>
> Stone me.
that pic is utter wank with willem dafoe
i recently puked my way throu something i couldnt believe could be so
bad, MONSTER
nick
> Earlier this week I couldn't get through 'The Wild One'.
Earlier this week I got through all of Crank 2: High Voltage and I'm
a better man for it. It wasn't easy though.
sirblob2
gamer is next
Kingo Gondo
was so motivated.
At home I have fallen asleep through some bad films.
moviePig
Elsewhere, you mentioned C:HV's racetrack scene ...the one meant to
convey extreme embarrassment. It succeeded with me beyond its wildest
hopes. Amy Smart should fire her agent. (The road-runner and coyote
would have scoffed at the science alone...)
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moviePig
> Mother India(1957). Just could not accept the character
> portrayals and style as serious. Probably a cultural thing,
> although I have watched other styles which I did see through.
> I know that some rate it as India's greatest film, too.
>
> Pavillion of Women(2001). Just did not raise itself above a
> cheap "romance" novel. Yan Luo was the only highlight.http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3227752704/nm0526839
I walked out before the end of SIXTH SENSE. So the kid sees ghosts,
and Bruce Willis helps him deal with it. Yawn...
The Giant Brain
"steve" <st...@steve.com> wrote in message
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The motorcycle gang in "The Wild One" were about as threatening as Eric Von
Zipper and his gang in all those Annette & Frankie beach movies.
The Giant Brain
both of which were completely incomprehensible. I walked out on both of them
(and I was home at the time!)
william
>
> I walked out before the end of SIXTH SENSE. So the kid sees ghosts,
> and Bruce Willis helps him deal with it. Yawn...
>
William
www.williamahearn.com
David Oberman
>No. The kid sees dead people. Get it?
Does anybody here have any supernatural beliefs? (I believe in
werewolves, for example.)
I'm curious about whether your supernatural beliefs influence your
choice of movies to see.
calvin
I believe that Woody Allen is really attractive to the ladies.
Derek Janssen
Moulin incomprehensible...we'll give you that.
Topsy-Turvy, however, was a biopic (as in, most of the stuff actually
happened).
At least real life makes sense.
Derek Janssen
eja...@verizon.net
nick
I don't have any supernatural beliefs. On the other hand, in high
school we visited one of those notorious local haunted houses, all
towns have them, and while we didn't see a thing, we were so
overwhelmed by some inexplicable fear it was like that plane crash
scene in White Noise, where De Lillo mentions a zenlike state of
perfect fear. It was that bad. And we didn't see or hear or
experience anything out of the normal. All we did was walk through an
abandoned house with a bad reputation in the middle of the night. But
years later I found emotional recognition in concluding scenes in The
Blair Witch Product.
On the other hand, a college room-mate found a ouija board in a trash
can (never a good sign) and we played with it. Stuff flew around the
room. Ooze dripped from walls. We got Satanic messages. We spoke to
dead celebrities and they would all answer our questions. But I never
thought for a single second there was anything less than some rational
explanation we weren't clued into.
So there's a message here but I don't know what it is, except that
maybe in real life, as in horror movies, subtlety is often more
effective.
Derek Janssen
Yeah, no big surprise in the ending... ;)
Derek Janssen (y'know, just kinda plays out)
eja...@verizon.net
nick
Thanks to an AICN-er's early review I found the big shock moment at
the end of Sixth Sense a letdown. Not because he gave the ending away
but that he described it as "deranged". So when we got to the ending,
I thought, oh, the old Carnival of Souls ending, that's a good twist,
now to the deranged part. But that was it. I was thinking the ghosts
might turn out to be flesh eating zombies or something, something
*deranged*.
calvin
> Thanks to an AICN-er's early review I found the big shock moment at
> the end of Sixth Sense a letdown.
Lots of movies have had surprise endings, but how many
such endings have made you want to go back and watch
the movie again?
william
Very few. I'd say "The Usual Suspects" is it. And some might argue
that as a surprise ending. I really don't like them generally. Did
like it in "Don't Look Now." Usually that type of ending becomes the
whole movie as in "Planet of the Apes." It becomes a really long and
very well-done Twilight Zone episode.
William
www.williamahearn.com
Tom
That's not supernatural, that's a super power! ;-)
Tom
Francis A. Miniter
> I walked out of The Sheltering Sky in a theater. That was the last time I
> was so motivated.
>
That's too bad. I really enjoyed the film. So much that I
went out and bought the book, which I also really enjoyed.
For me it was the study of a culture clash, or perhaps
ignorance of the culture one was presuming to be superior
to, with horrific results. Then there is always the act of
the woman at the very end. From the point of view of the
narrator (film and book), there is no way to explain it.
What did you think of The Passenger?
--
Francis A. Miniter
Oscuramente
libros, laminas, llaves
siguen mi suerte.
Jorge Luis Borges, La Cifra Haiku, 6
Francis A. Miniter
No supernatural beliefs.
I cannot stand films with that angle, and I detest horror
films.
Exception: The Ninth Gate, but I forgive the film because
of the book, The Club Dumas by Arturo Perez Reverte, where
the issue of supernatural is ALWAYS kept ambiguous and open
to two explanations. Also, the movie misses 50% of the plot
of the novel - there are two story lines. What does draw
growls from me in that film is the protagonist (Johnny Depp)
smoking cigarettes directly over extremely rare books.
Francis A. Miniter
The Kremlin Letter
Body Heat (the second time around I saw the blackmail
payment being made)
Francis A. Miniter
There was once a film made as a parody of biker films. Two
biker gangs come to town - or close to it - they each camp
outside the town. The gang of biker men sit around the
campfire and discuss philosophy. The gang of biker women
are tough and obscene. Unfortunately, I cannot remember the
name of the film.
Kingo Gondo
"Francis A. Miniter" <fami...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Kingo Gondo wrote:
>> I walked out of The Sheltering Sky in a theater. That was the last time I
>> was so motivated.
>>
>
> That's too bad. I really enjoyed the film. So much that I went out and
> bought the book, which I also really enjoyed. For me it was the study of a
> culture clash, or perhaps ignorance of the culture one was presuming to be
> superior to, with horrific results. Then there is always the act of the
> woman at the very end. From the point of view of the narrator (film and
> book), there is no way to explain it.
>
> What did you think of The Passenger?
Love it.
Howard Brazee
<dobe...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>Does anybody here have any supernatural beliefs? (I believe in
>werewolves, for example.)
>
>I'm curious about whether your supernatural beliefs influence your
>choice of movies to see.
If the movie acts as if the supernatural is real, I avoid it. If it
appears to know that it is fantasy, I don't mind at all.
Too many people believe in the supernatural and are subject to
charlatans scamming them.
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than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
- James Madison
Howard Brazee
I saw them in the theater and liked them both. I can understand
someone not understanding "Moulin Rouge", but "Topsy-Turvy"?
Did you like/understand "Across the Universe"?
David Oberman
>So there's a message here but I don't know what it is, except that
>maybe in real life, as in horror movies, subtlety is often more
>effective.
Bien entendu.
william
wrote:
>
> What did you think of The Passenger?
>
blown and boring. Bernardo Bertolucci -- in my twisted peabrain -- has
made some really fabulous films and a bunch of bow-wows that I can't
believe were made by the same director. All that being what it may,
how does "Sheltering Sky" tie into Antonioni's "The Passenger"? It
seems like a non sequitur. They're both set in the desert? I'm a major
Antonioni fan and I see "The Passenger" at least once a year. Still
don't get what it has to do with the Bertolucci flick.
William
www.williamahearn.com
calvin
> ... I'm a major
> Antonioni fan and I see "The Passenger" at least once a year. Still
> don't get what it has to do with the Bertolucci flick.
Neither you nor anyone else responded to my post,
'Antonioni's trilogy', almost exactly a year ago. In case
you did not see it then, and might want to check it out
now, here is a link to it:
william
>
> Neither you nor anyone else responded to my post,
> 'Antonioni's trilogy', almost exactly a year ago. In case
> you did not see it then, and might want to check it out
> now, here is a link to it:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yblh3jo
L'avventura -- that I saw in my late teens when "Blow Up" caused a bit
of an Antonioni revival and many art houses and independents showed
his earlier films -- changed the way I looked at films. What was
possible in a film, how the story unfolds, the whole notion of
"resolution" (in terms of plot), my expectations for what a movie was
supposed to do was irrevocably altered by that flick. At that age, it
could have been any number of films that would have the same effect.
But it was that one that I saw and consequently I have a strong
connection to the film. I get people not "getting" Antonioni.
Especially the work that followed his neo-realist films (that I also
love). L'avventura is his break from neo-realism as Red Desert
presages his break from the films of alienation. I'm not going to
argue or try to explain any of your reservations about the films.
There really isn't any argument or explanation. The aspect that
separates Antonioni from some other Italian directors is that he
really went his own way. The early films of De Sica and Visconti are
some of my favorites but their films in the 1960s and later are -- to
me -- barely watchable. Anyway, I'm rambling and that's that.
William
www.williamahearn.com
sirblob2
piggy was joking
sirblob2
few, least of all MEMENTO
Francis A. Miniter
Atmosphere - and not just desert. Both are very quiet films
- acting predominates over words. Both involve someone who
recklessly undertakes an adventure without being the least
prepared for it - and the adventure involves significant
cultural differences. Both have that slowness of older
films, which I like and some cannot stand.
moviePig
> On Sep 23, 5:58 pm, moviePig <pwall...@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
> > I walked out before the end of SIXTH SENSE. So the kid sees ghosts,
> > and Bruce Willis helps him deal with it. Yawn...
>
> No. The kid sees dead people. Get it?
Why, so can I, or so can any man. But, when he does see them, can he
*raise* them?
(With apologies to Hotspur and Amarillo Slim...)
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william
> On Sep 23, 7:17 pm, william <wlahe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sep 23, 5:58 pm, moviePig <pwall...@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
> > > I walked out before the end of SIXTH SENSE. So the kid sees ghosts,
> > > and Bruce Willis helps him deal with it. Yawn...
>
> > No. The kid sees dead people. Get it?
>
> Why, so can I, or so can any man. But, when he does see them, can he
> *raise* them?
>
made a cool zombie flick if the Willis character pissed off the kid
and the kid set the dead people on him.
William
www.williamahearn.com
Bill McClain
I've never walked out in a theater, although films have broken on me more than
once.
-Bill
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steve
On 23-Sep-2009, calvin <cri...@windstream.net> wrote:
> > Does anybody here have any supernatural beliefs? (I believe in
> > werewolves, for example.)
> >
> > I'm curious about whether your supernatural beliefs influence your
> > choice of movies to see.
>
> I believe that Woody Allen is really attractive to the ladies.
LOL!!
--
"DONT TREAD ON ME"
Gadsden Flag
steve
On 23-Sep-2009, william <wlah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I walked out before the end of SIXTH SENSE. �So the kid sees ghosts,
> > and Bruce Willis helps him deal with it. �Yawn...
> >
> No. The kid sees dead people. Get it?
I didnt see the movie. Is that an important distinction?
william
>
> I didnt see the movie. Is that an important distinction?
Yes.
William
www.williamahearn.com
steve
On 24-Sep-2009, william <wlah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I didnt see the movie. �Is that an important distinction?
>
> Yes.
How so?
william
> On 24-Sep-2009, william <wlahe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I didnt see the movie. Is that an important distinction?
>
> > Yes.
>
> How so?
To explain it would create a spoiler. In the case of M Night
Shambobalulu's films that's pretty much all they have. In terms of an
ending. N'est-ce pas?
William
www.williamahearn.com
steve
On 24-Sep-2009, william <wlah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> To explain it would create a spoiler. In the case of M Night
> Shambobalulu's films that's pretty much all they have. In terms of an
> ending. N'est-ce pas?
I woudnt know. Never seen any.
Paul B. Thompson
news:e2uum.112587$pa4....@newsfe27.ams2...
> Mother India(1957). Just could not accept the character portrayals and
> style as serious. Probably a cultural thing, although I have watched other
> styles which I did see through.
> This image captures the alien feel I got.
> http://img338.imageshack.us/i/vlcsnap64940fj3.png/#q=imdb I know that some
> rate it as India's greatest film, too.
>
> Pavillion of Women(2001). Just did not raise itself above a cheap
> "romance" novel. Yan Luo was the only highlight.
> http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3227752704/nm0526839
>
> Stone me.
Two films I walked out on:
Herzog's "Nosferatu". After about ten minutes I vamoosed. Stupid, silly,
boring.
Olivier's "Othello." Yeah, he was a great actor, but in black face, doing an
accent like the Kingfish was too much. I bailed.
PBT
Derek Janssen
> On 23-Sep-2009, william <wlah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> I walked out before the end of SIXTH SENSE. So the kid sees ghosts,
>>> and Bruce Willis helps him deal with it. Yawn...
>>>
>> No. The kid sees dead people. Get it?
>
> I didnt see the movie. Is that an important distinction?
Mmmyyyyyyeah. :/
(Hint: Everyone keeps calling this "The GOOD M. Night Shamalyan
film"...Now, doesn't that make you a little curious?)
Derek Janssen (like, "What is that, you might ask?")
eja...@verizon.net
steve
On 24-Sep-2009, Derek Janssen <eja...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
> (Hint: Everyone keeps calling this "The GOOD M. Night Shamalyan
> film"...Now, doesn't that make you a little curious?)
Yea. Now Im wondering who a "M. Night Shamalyan" is. It's killing me.
william
wrote:
>
> Atmosphere - and not just desert. Both are very quiet films
> - acting predominates over words. Both involve someone who
> recklessly undertakes an adventure without being the least
> prepared for it - and the adventure involves significant
> cultural differences. Both have that slowness of older
> films, which I like and some cannot stand.
>
make that connection. That vague of a description would connect
numerous films. Part of my response is a holdover from all the "noir"
nonsense and its vague connections so I'm not so quick to group films
based on "atmosphere." Then again, that's what makes horseraces.
William
www.williamahearn.com
The Giant Brain
"Derek Janssen" <eja...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
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> The Giant Brain wrote:
>
>> Two more recent dreadful pieces of dreck were "Topsy-Turvy" and "Moulin
>> Rouge" both of which were completely incomprehensible. I walked out on both
>> of them (and I was home at the time!)
>
>
> Topsy-Turvy, however, was a biopic (as in, most of the stuff actually
> happened).
> At least real life makes sense.
Is it your contention that every bio-pic ever made not only makes sense but is
also a good movie?
Madara0806
> Mother India(1957). Just could not accept the character
> portrayals and style as serious. Probably a cultural thing,
> although I have watched other styles which I did see through.
> I know that some rate it as India's greatest film, too.
>
> Pavillion of Women(2001). Just did not raise itself above a
> cheap "romance" novel. Yan Luo was the only highlight.http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3227752704/nm0526839
>
> Stone me.
See DEVDAS and PEKING OPERA BLUES instead.
Or MOHABBATEIN and THE HEROIC TRIO.
Or CHANDNI CHOWK TO CHINA and SWORDSMAN III: THE EAST IS RED.
You get the idea.
Derek Janssen
>>
>>> Two more recent dreadful pieces of dreck were "Topsy-Turvy" and "Moulin
>>> Rouge" both of which were completely incomprehensible. I walked out on both
>>> of them (and I was home at the time!)
>> Moulin incomprehensible...we'll give you that.
>>
>> Topsy-Turvy, however, was a biopic (as in, most of the stuff actually
>> happened).
>> At least real life makes sense.
>
> Is it your contention that every bio-pic ever made not only makes sense but is
> also a good movie?
Only the ones that have Jim Broadbent in them.
Derek Janssen (point is, I figured it out, how 'bout you?)
eja...@verizon.net
The Giant Brain
"PLONK"
Kingo Gondo
I don't see the conenction at all.
I like a lot of Bertolucci--The Conformist especially--but he couldn't carry
Antonioni's jock-strap.
David Oberman
>>> Topsy-Turvy, however, was a biopic (as in, most of the stuff actually
>>> happened).
>>
>> Is it your contention that every bio-pic ever made not only makes sense but is
>> also a good movie?
>
>Only the ones that have Jim Broadbent in them.
Derek, did you read the Harold Schonberg essay on Arthur Sullivan in
his LIVES OF THE GREAT COMPOSERS?
David Oberman
How do you think Antonioni stacks up against Bellocchio? I think
Bellocchio stayed entertaining into his later years, whereas Antonioni
didn't. Also, I think Bellocchio has more interesting things to say.
Derek Janssen
Um, no, but I've got the '39 Technicolor D'Oyly Carte "Mikado" with
Kenny Baker on disk, is that close enough? :)
Derek Janssen (looked pretty close)
eja...@verizon.net
David Oberman
>> Derek, did you read the Harold Schonberg essay on Arthur Sullivan in
>> his LIVES OF THE GREAT COMPOSERS?
>
>Um, no, but I've got the '39 Technicolor D'Oyly Carte "Mikado" with
>Kenny Baker on disk, is that close enough? :)
The reason I mentioned it is that the Schonberg piece helps clue us in
to the biographical accuracies & inaccuracies of "Topsy-Turvy."
It's a wonderful book, & I recommend it to everyone. It's in its 2nd
or 3rd revision.
Derek Janssen
Yeah, figured.
My point to The Mediocre Troll was, at least there was *some* structural
skeleton to the movie--provided you'd actually heard of G&S in your
lifetime, which from his comments, would have been an "If"--whereas the
shapeless blob of "Moulin" had none whatsoever. (Broadbent
notwithstanding.)
At least, as Siskel & Ebert pointed out, you could compare "Turvy"'s
artificial replication of D'Oyly-Carte production to the '39's captured
footage (as well as the imitation George Grossmith versus the genuine
Martyn Green) and they seem to check out...
It would not be surprising to guess that Mike Leigh may have used the
'39 as historical reference source, as the sets look near-identical.
Derek Janssen (and, this's pretty much where the Smart People take over
the thread) :)
eja...@verizon.net
sirblob2
> Two more recent dreadful pieces of dreck were "Topsy-Turvy" and "Moulin Rouge"
> both of which were completely incomprehensible. I walked out on both of them
> (and I was home at the time!)
why was topsy turvy incomprehensible?
Derek Janssen
[Not that blob's post constitutes an actual response to the thread, but
just in the preventative case a real poster asks: ]
I'm guessing it's the standard Gen-Y default of "Huh?--WTF was that
ending? That sucked!"
In answer to any unasked questions about the last ten minutes:
1) Mrs. Gilbert's "idea for a new musical" sounds oddly as if she's
asking them why they've never had children,
and
2) The scandalized actress with a baby now feels a little more
self-worth for having played a lead more romantic than herself.
...There, make sense now? :)
Derek Janssen (assuming Braino's reading this anyway, as most
face-saving Plonks are merely ornamental)
eja...@verizon.net
Jim Beaver
"Paul B. Thompson" <mra...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Seeing Olivier's "Othello" is one of my very favorite film-going
experiences. Not a whiff of Kingfish to my mind. Quite the contrary.
Jim Beaver
Mr. Hole the Magnificent
> On Sep 23, 2:46 pm, "Stone me" <sun...@boulevard.hwd> wrote:
>
> > portrayals and style as serious. Probably a cultural thing,
> > although I have watched other styles which I did see through.
> > I know that some rate it as India's greatest film, too.
>
> > Pavillion of Women(2001). Just did not raise itself above a
> > cheap "romance" novel. Yan Luo was the only highlight.http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3227752704/nm0526839
>
Are you being serious?
Mr. Hole the Magnificent
because I had to go home and go to the bathroom.
Derek Janssen
> Hard Candy is the only film I can recall leaving, I left a few others
> because I had to go home and go to the bathroom.
Only cases I've ever bailed on a movie after forty minutes was walking
out early on "Rocky & Bullwinkle" and "Cloudy With a Chance of
Meatballs" to meet up with someone at the mall, but in either
case....boy, was I more than ready to. >_<
Derek Janssen (in fact, I considered myself *patient*)
eja...@verizon.net
william
<classic.mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hard Candy is the only film I can recall leaving, I left a few others
> because I had to go home and go to the bathroom.
I didn't like it as much as "Hard Candy" is an interesting product of
its time. What I walked out on recently -- and the film is so
forgettable it's taken me this long to remember the title -- is
"Factory Girl." If ever a film needed brain-eating zombies or a crazed
chainsaw killer gutting the characters in the movie, it was "Factory
Girl." If that was gonna happen I woulda stayed. What godawful
nonsense rendered incompetently.
William
www.williamahearn.com
william
wrote:
I just don't see John Locke of The Passenger as a victim or even a
participant in culture clash. If anything, Locke's ability to travel
among all aspects of Africa -- as well as London and the US -- is what
does him in. He isn't on a journey. He just wants to stop being who he
is and doesn't realize -- until it's too late -- who he has become. As
for Bertolucci, I'll give him Last Tango In Paris as well. I haven't
see 1900 in years but I saw The Dreamers recently and I wanted to piss
on his shoes. What unnecessary, self-indulgent, stupid, junk.
William
www.williamahearn.com
The Giant Brain
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Because it made no sense?
sirblob2
> "sirblob2" <sirbl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
if it made no sense to you, then you're probably a moron
Howard Brazee
way, figuring I had seen it all.
When someone in the audience had a medical emergency in "The
Wrestler", I went home, but checked the Internet to find out how it
ended.
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Paul B. Thompson
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I just couldn't buy it. I never once thought anything but, "there's Olivier
with shoe polish on his face, trying to sound African."
On the other hand, his Mahdi, in "Khartoum," I thought was a chilling turn,
makeup, accent and all. Over the top in places, but that seemed to suit the
fanatical character he was playing.
PBT
Kingo Gondo
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REPLY:
I acknowledge LTiP as an excellent film, but I have to credit that more to
Brando's epic performance than anything else. Perhaps I am being unfair in
that assessment, since Bertolucci obviously had a hand in drawing that out.
But if you ask me to fill in the blank "Last Tango In Paris was ______'s
great accomplishment", I am going to think "Brando" every time.
william
wrote:
>
> I acknowledge LTiP as an excellent film, but I have to credit that more to
> Brando's epic performance than anything else. Perhaps I am being unfair in
> that assessment, since Bertolucci obviously had a hand in drawing that out.
> But if you ask me to fill in the blank "Last Tango In Paris was ______'s
> great accomplishment", I am going to think "Brando" every time.
Brando has turned in other great performances in other films. Tango
gives him the environment to do it much as Miles Davis' band or John
Coltrane's backup are as integral to the music as the solos. Finally,
Brando had the space and the character to "wail" and he runs with it.
So I agree with you completely about Brando. Bertolucci made one other
"great" film -- The Conformist -- so it's not as if he didn't have the
chops. On the other hand, anyone who wants to dump on the director of
The Dreamers is OK with me.
William
www.williamahearn.com
Kingo Gondo
William
www.williamahearn.com
REPLY:
I mentioned The Conformist is my original post--tremendous film, I agree.
When it was re-released four years ago I saw it on the big screen (well,
medium screen, The Film Forum). It was just beautiful to behold.
Mark
> "sirblob2" <sirbl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
"The Giant Brain?" Only in relation to Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Keith
Olbermann, and Chris Matthews.
The Giant Brain
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All of whom make you look like even more of a moron.
Welcome to my killfile Mr. Troll.
PLONK
berk
> Mother India(1957). Just could not accept the character
> portrayals and style as serious. Probably a cultural thing,
> although I have watched other styles which I did see through.
> I know that some rate it as India's greatest film, too.
>
Well, this one seems from the 50's by the look of it (and if I am
exactly correct isn't so important as) it might be hard to wrap around
botht he era/generation gap and the cultural one at the same time.
> Pavillion of Women(2001). Just did not raise itself above a
> cheap "romance" novel. Yan Luo was the only highlight.http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3227752704/nm0526839
>
> Stone me.
Well, there have been many of these I've passed on after giving them a
try. Usually they've been found in the 1st place via a channel surf or
something. But it happens.
berk
Anim8rFSK
<179722d5-951e-42a8...@m20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
nick <nickmacp...@AOL.com> wrote:
> On Sep 23, 8:09�pm, Derek Janssen <ejan...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
> > moviePig wrote:
> > > On Sep 23, 2:46 pm, "Stone me" <sun...@boulevard.hwd> wrote:
> > >> Mother India(1957). Just could not accept the character
> > >> portrayals and style as serious. Probably a cultural thing,
> > >> although I have watched other styles which I did see through.
> > >> This image captures the alien feel I
> > >> got.http://img338.imageshack.us/i/vlcsnap64940fj3.png/#q=imdb
> > >> I know that some rate it as India's greatest film, too.
> >
> > >> Pavillion of Women(2001). Just did not raise itself above a
> > >> cheap "romance" novel. Yan Luo was the only
> > >> highlight.http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3227752704/nm0526839
> >
> > > I walked out before the end of SIXTH SENSE. �So the kid sees ghosts,
> > > and Bruce Willis helps him deal with it. �Yawn...
> >
> > Yeah, no big surprise in the ending... �;)
> >
> > Derek Janssen (y'know, just kinda plays out)
> > ejan...@verizon.net
>
> Thanks to an AICN-er's early review I found the big shock moment at
> the end of Sixth Sense a letdown. Not because he gave the ending away
> but that he described it as "deranged". So when we got to the ending,
> I thought, oh, the old Carnival of Souls ending, that's a good twist,
> now to the deranged part. But that was it. I was thinking the ghosts
> might turn out to be flesh eating zombies or something, something
> *deranged*.
You didn't guess it from the trailers? I hadn't read anything, only
seen the trailers, and my viewing accomplice said "guess the twist end"
and after about 10 seconds of mulling it over I said "Bruce Willis is
Dead" -- I take it I was right; I still haven't seen the movie.
--
Happy 45th Birthday
The Man from U.N.C.L.E.
Open Channel D!
Anim8rFSK
"Paul B. Thompson" <mra...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Stone me" <sun...@boulevard.hwd> wrote in message
> news:e2uum.112587$pa4....@newsfe27.ams2...
> > Mother India(1957). Just could not accept the character portrayals and
> > style as serious. Probably a cultural thing, although I have watched other
> > styles which I did see through.
> > This image captures the alien feel I got.
> > http://img338.imageshack.us/i/vlcsnap64940fj3.png/#q=imdb I know that some
> > rate it as India's greatest film, too.
> >
> > Pavillion of Women(2001). Just did not raise itself above a cheap
> > "romance" novel. Yan Luo was the only highlight.
> > http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3227752704/nm0526839
> >
> > Stone me.
>
> Two films I walked out on:
>
> Herzog's "Nosferatu". After about ten minutes I vamoosed. Stupid, silly,
> boring.
So you missed the 20 minute horseback ride?
Anim8rFSK
Derek Janssen <eja...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
R&B was staggeringly bad, save only for Piper.
Cloudy ... I don't get it. The ads show that food falls on you. This
isn't even the basis for a Saturday Night Live ad, much less a movie.