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Lynn McGuire
Jan 29, 2020, 12:10:43 AM1/29/20
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Drove down to Victoria, Texas today to see the matinee performance of
“Saving Private Ryan: the prequel” today with my dad. Some people call
it “1917”. Most excellent movie and very intense. Even partially a true
story, handed down over the years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1917_(2019_film)
Lynn
“Saving Private Ryan: the prequel” today with my dad. Some people call
it “1917”. Most excellent movie and very intense. Even partially a true
story, handed down over the years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1917_(2019_film)
Lynn
Ed Stasiak
Jan 29, 2020, 9:03:45 AM1/29/20
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> Lynn McGuire
makes WWI movies difficult to do as it’s so boring and depressing
while at the same time, giving the viewer a detailed look at how
extensive and elaborate the trench systems were.
Nice historical touch showing the booby-trapped German dugout and
referencing the dead cows and chopped down fruit trees left behind
by the Germans as they pulled back to the Hindenburg Line and I
thought for sure that the downed German pilot would be killed by
poisoned water from the well (which they also did, to deny them
to the Allied troops).
I was annoyed when later in the flick, the main characters leaves
his rifle behind when he runs away, which is typical Hollywood but
overall, it was a good movie.
>
> Drove down to Victoria, Texas today to see the matinee performance of
> “Saving Private Ryan: the prequel” today with my dad. Some people call
> it “1917”. Most excellent movie and very intense. Even partially a true
> story, handed down over the years.
I liked that they didn’t spend a lot of time in the trenches, which
> Drove down to Victoria, Texas today to see the matinee performance of
> “Saving Private Ryan: the prequel” today with my dad. Some people call
> it “1917”. Most excellent movie and very intense. Even partially a true
> story, handed down over the years.
makes WWI movies difficult to do as it’s so boring and depressing
while at the same time, giving the viewer a detailed look at how
extensive and elaborate the trench systems were.
Nice historical touch showing the booby-trapped German dugout and
referencing the dead cows and chopped down fruit trees left behind
by the Germans as they pulled back to the Hindenburg Line and I
thought for sure that the downed German pilot would be killed by
poisoned water from the well (which they also did, to deny them
to the Allied troops).
I was annoyed when later in the flick, the main characters leaves
his rifle behind when he runs away, which is typical Hollywood but
overall, it was a good movie.
Flasherly
Feb 5, 2020, 8:05:29 AM2/5/20
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On Wed, 05 Feb 2020 00:09:48 -0600, super70s
<supe...@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>It's a DVD I'd like to have when it hits the bargain bin so I can turn
>subtitles on and understand more of the dialogue.
I wouldn't count on it. I wouldn't think subtitles specific to
standards as much a discretion of distributional sources. Regionally,
the DVD may cross languages, though, in which case, the subtitles
would be necessary, imprinted into the final release for selling to a
country and their language.
Then there's the source player, whether a "set-top" dedicated
DVD/Blueray, 4K, 3D -- as for so many formats and options.
Subtitled provisions may be, for all I know, something entirely
computer specific to a program software and several popular players,
whereas all the above "firmware" specific, which, though they can be
reprogrammed, possibly won't be unless there's a popular unit with
dedicated interested group for programming skills usually hacked
together with an accompanying disclaimer - you break it, it's yours.
Subtitles, I'll hazard, may be substandard for "streaming" devices,
sustainable to TIVOs and such, with their hard drives for storing
broadcasts, per se, then linked to either possible firmware features
similar to "tabletop player box" players specific to DVD/BlueRay, if
not altogether transported to a personal computer for a software
player capable of simultaneously rendering subtitles into the video.
Substandard in the latter, for video quality purposes, as in the case
of streaming entertainment industries that require a minimum Internet
connectivity speed to broadcast;- Something which a DVD/BlueRay
needn't stoop to as the superior product closest of all to exorbitant
prices to rent/buy quality digital and filmstock cameras from original
rendition (theatric) performances.
I really don't know what all is out there for subtitled options. I
personally run several sound compression stages through software,
mostly music, but for films I really don't enjoy blasting the sound,
either, to struggle to hear everything I might otherwise think to,
given a subtitled dialogue to accompany a software player, I mainly
use. Least of distracting from a thick pizza pie or not having to
screw with volumes or backtracking on dialogue. A basic stereo,
otherwise, capable of a biamped 400W output, that's playing a film at
probably 2W, if that, nicely enough from one amp.
"Theatric stereo", the DOLBY back and foreground sourcing -- cars
squealing their tires, gunshots, overpowering music for dramatic mood
-- so much Jacked-Up Volume for the Immersive Experience.
Gimme a break. Sounds like a trip to the cathouse at least to me.
<supe...@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>It's a DVD I'd like to have when it hits the bargain bin so I can turn
>subtitles on and understand more of the dialogue.
I wouldn't count on it. I wouldn't think subtitles specific to
standards as much a discretion of distributional sources. Regionally,
the DVD may cross languages, though, in which case, the subtitles
would be necessary, imprinted into the final release for selling to a
country and their language.
Then there's the source player, whether a "set-top" dedicated
DVD/Blueray, 4K, 3D -- as for so many formats and options.
Subtitled provisions may be, for all I know, something entirely
computer specific to a program software and several popular players,
whereas all the above "firmware" specific, which, though they can be
reprogrammed, possibly won't be unless there's a popular unit with
dedicated interested group for programming skills usually hacked
together with an accompanying disclaimer - you break it, it's yours.
Subtitles, I'll hazard, may be substandard for "streaming" devices,
sustainable to TIVOs and such, with their hard drives for storing
broadcasts, per se, then linked to either possible firmware features
similar to "tabletop player box" players specific to DVD/BlueRay, if
not altogether transported to a personal computer for a software
player capable of simultaneously rendering subtitles into the video.
Substandard in the latter, for video quality purposes, as in the case
of streaming entertainment industries that require a minimum Internet
connectivity speed to broadcast;- Something which a DVD/BlueRay
needn't stoop to as the superior product closest of all to exorbitant
prices to rent/buy quality digital and filmstock cameras from original
rendition (theatric) performances.
I really don't know what all is out there for subtitled options. I
personally run several sound compression stages through software,
mostly music, but for films I really don't enjoy blasting the sound,
either, to struggle to hear everything I might otherwise think to,
given a subtitled dialogue to accompany a software player, I mainly
use. Least of distracting from a thick pizza pie or not having to
screw with volumes or backtracking on dialogue. A basic stereo,
otherwise, capable of a biamped 400W output, that's playing a film at
probably 2W, if that, nicely enough from one amp.
"Theatric stereo", the DOLBY back and foreground sourcing -- cars
squealing their tires, gunshots, overpowering music for dramatic mood
-- so much Jacked-Up Volume for the Immersive Experience.
Gimme a break. Sounds like a trip to the cathouse at least to me.
super70s
Feb 5, 2020, 10:55:10 AM2/5/20
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On 2020-02-05 13:05:24 +0000, Flasherly said:
> On Wed, 05 Feb 2020 00:09:48 -0600, super70s
> <supe...@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>
>> It's a DVD I'd like to have when it hits the bargain bin so I can turn
>> subtitles on and understand more of the dialogue.
>
> I wouldn't count on it. I wouldn't think subtitles specific to
> standards as much a discretion of distributional sources. Regionally,
> the DVD may cross languages, though, in which case, the subtitles
> would be necessary, imprinted into the final release for selling to a
> country and their language.
? You're saying you think the DVD/Blu-ray for a major movie like 1917,
> On Wed, 05 Feb 2020 00:09:48 -0600, super70s
> <supe...@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>
>> It's a DVD I'd like to have when it hits the bargain bin so I can turn
>> subtitles on and understand more of the dialogue.
>
> I wouldn't count on it. I wouldn't think subtitles specific to
> standards as much a discretion of distributional sources. Regionally,
> the DVD may cross languages, though, in which case, the subtitles
> would be necessary, imprinted into the final release for selling to a
> country and their language.
when it becomes available, won't feature subtitles?
I mean I own many DVD's with no subtitles at all or only Spanish
subtitles but I can't believe a likely Oscar winner like 1917 from a
major studio like Universal won't be equipped with English (and
French/Spanish/etc.) subtitles.
Flasherly
Feb 5, 2020, 4:08:55 PM2/5/20
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On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 09:54:49 -0600, super70s
<supe...@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>I mean I own many DVD's with no subtitles at all or only Spanish
>subtitles but I can't believe a likely Oscar winner like 1917 from a
>major studio like Universal won't be equipped with English (and
>French/Spanish/etc.) subtitles.
If it's not a standard that can played alongside the video files,
<supe...@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>I mean I own many DVD's with no subtitles at all or only Spanish
>subtitles but I can't believe a likely Oscar winner like 1917 from a
>major studio like Universal won't be equipped with English (and
>French/Spanish/etc.) subtitles.
usually VOBs on a DVD distribution, from a DVD tabletop player, then a
subtitle to exist is hardcoded into the distributional image. I've
never personally tried to feed an editable subtitle file into a
software player while playing VOBs, although there are subtitle
editors that have some unusual effects, nice touches not often seen,
with the presumably recognizable standards to software players. Things
like different colors for optionally accompanying certain sounds
during the edit.
Subtitle Workshop - 67 supported formats.
www.urusoft.net
But it's old and I've limited experience with it and don't know if
there's longer support.
Most of my work is from early engineering precepts available, I had to
study somewhere along or between VCR and DVDs. I'd capture aerial
broadcasts from an antenna to edit my own films off early PCI
standards and inexpensive consumer "capture boards" then available.
Ed Stasiak
Feb 6, 2020, 9:06:42 AM2/6/20
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> Flasherly
> > super70s
official version will have them also.
> > super70s
> >
> > It's a DVD I'd like to have when it hits the bargain bin so
> > I can turn subtitles on and understand more of the dialogue.
>
> I wouldn't count on it. I wouldn't think subtitles specific
> to standards as much a discretion of distributional sources.
The DVD screener (DVDScr) for the movie has subtitles, so the
> > It's a DVD I'd like to have when it hits the bargain bin so
> > I can turn subtitles on and understand more of the dialogue.
>
> I wouldn't count on it. I wouldn't think subtitles specific
> to standards as much a discretion of distributional sources.
official version will have them also.
Flasherly
Feb 6, 2020, 5:25:53 PM2/6/20
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On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 06:06:38 -0800 (PST), Ed Stasiak <esta...@att.net>
wrote:
>The DVD screener (DVDScr) for the movie has subtitles, so the
>official version will have them also.
A trail leading into researching (god knows what and where all else)
for any hint of standardization, for distributional purposes, to
subtitling. Of course almost any film now has its adherents who deem
their usefulness contributory to hand-writing out dialogues for
uploading to WEB sites specializing in the few "software players"
capable of subtitles, much like "muisic players", tenuously if
conjointly existing aside copyrights and, overall, technological
advancements if not conveniences and portents.
Drama as a performance factor apart, subtitles appear for a valid
angle. Much as sound-tracking can be to a few DVD distributions that
might encountered;- watch for the first viewing the play as scripted
dialogue, whereas "menu-authoring" for creating a DVD may optionally
provide an entirely different soundtrack for selection, one where the
director or other interests interject their own dialogue, perhaps for
explaining their reason as much for techniques engaged alternately at
the time their being played out.
After all and in so much text may have to offer. At one point before
Gutenberg, not much unless one resided in a monastery, just as before
celluloid film advanced aside universal education laws, little else
but. Who cares for as much amounts to suppose what fashion is in
marketing its ultimate worth.
wrote:
>The DVD screener (DVDScr) for the movie has subtitles, so the
>official version will have them also.
for any hint of standardization, for distributional purposes, to
subtitling. Of course almost any film now has its adherents who deem
their usefulness contributory to hand-writing out dialogues for
uploading to WEB sites specializing in the few "software players"
capable of subtitles, much like "muisic players", tenuously if
conjointly existing aside copyrights and, overall, technological
advancements if not conveniences and portents.
Drama as a performance factor apart, subtitles appear for a valid
angle. Much as sound-tracking can be to a few DVD distributions that
might encountered;- watch for the first viewing the play as scripted
dialogue, whereas "menu-authoring" for creating a DVD may optionally
provide an entirely different soundtrack for selection, one where the
director or other interests interject their own dialogue, perhaps for
explaining their reason as much for techniques engaged alternately at
the time their being played out.
After all and in so much text may have to offer. At one point before
Gutenberg, not much unless one resided in a monastery, just as before
celluloid film advanced aside universal education laws, little else
but. Who cares for as much amounts to suppose what fashion is in
marketing its ultimate worth.
Ed Stasiak
Feb 6, 2020, 6:32:56 PM2/6/20
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> Flasherly
> > Ed Stasiak
plays everything I’ve encountered.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLC_media_player
> > Ed Stasiak
> >
> > The DVD screener (DVDScr) for the movie has subtitles, so the
> > official version will have them also.
>
> A trail leading into researching (god knows what and where all else)
> for any hint of standardization, for distributional purposes, to
> subtitling.
I’ve been using (the free) VLC Player for several years now and it
> > The DVD screener (DVDScr) for the movie has subtitles, so the
> > official version will have them also.
>
> A trail leading into researching (god knows what and where all else)
> for any hint of standardization, for distributional purposes, to
> subtitling.
plays everything I’ve encountered.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLC_media_player
william ahearn
Feb 6, 2020, 7:22:20 PM2/6/20
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On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 6:32:56 PM UTC-5, Ed Stasiak wrote:
> > Flasherly
> > > Ed Stasiak
> > >
> > > The DVD screener (DVDScr) for the movie has subtitles, so the
> > > official version will have them also.
> >
> > A trail leading into researching (god knows what and where all else)
> > for any hint of standardization, for distributional purposes, to
> > subtitling.
>
> I’ve been using (the free) VLC Player for several years now and it
> plays everything I’ve encountered.
>
VLC is fabulous. Good app.
> > Flasherly
> > > Ed Stasiak
> > >
> > > The DVD screener (DVDScr) for the movie has subtitles, so the
> > > official version will have them also.
> >
> > A trail leading into researching (god knows what and where all else)
> > for any hint of standardization, for distributional purposes, to
> > subtitling.
>
> I’ve been using (the free) VLC Player for several years now and it
> plays everything I’ve encountered.
>
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