Reagen Sulewski wrote in message
>
>Any others that you would pick?
Harry Lime in "The Third Man." That even gaze, that sonorous voice, the
delicately unnverving justification of his hideous crimes. {Shiver.}
> Hal9000- 2001
> Calm, cool, collected, who cares if he's just a bunch of silicone?
The reasonable, self-assured voice of borderline sanity... : )
> Judge Doom- Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
> Seriously, who still isn't freaked out by that scene where he
> unmasks... "And when I KILLLEDD your BROTHER, I TALLLKED LIIIKKEE
> THIIIISS!"
Given Bob Z., more decibel-assaulted than freaked--
But since a Christopher Lloyd villain belongs on any true list, I'd have
gone for the obscure choice and picked "Legend of the Lone Ranger"...
> Maleficent-Sleeping Beauty
> Warping the minds of children for 60 years now. Who says Disney isn't
> evil?
Although if you're talking TRUE Disney warping power, can't leave out
the Evil Queen gleefully smashing the dungeon skeleton, from "Snow
White"...
> Auric Goldfinger-Goldfinger
> Khan-Star Trek:The Wrath of Khan
> Hannibal Lecter-The Silence of the Lambs
If the category is true root-for villains, the Required category would
have to include:
* Pinhead - Hellraiser I & II
(There's nothing more withering than a *poetic* demon...)
* Sherriff "Little Bill" Daggett - Unforgiven
(Admit it--It's the sense of humor that makes Gene Hackman scary)
* Antonio Salieri - Amadeus
(There is no, repeat, NO way not to love that last little self-
satisfied smile and chuckle at reducing the young priest to pale,
trembling jelly with his story...)
Derek Janssen
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(--Hey, he's got the same film professor!) ; )
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(OR, there's also the possibility that Alex never actually saw it,
but...NAAHHH, THAT can't be possible, can it?...
1. Darth Vader-Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back
Simply put, all discussions begin and end with the man in the black
cape. The attitude, the voice, the Powers, you name it.
Note that I leave out Return of the Jedi, as he did not quite have the
impact in that movie as the other two (which could be said for the
rest of the movie as well).
Now the rest:
Hal9000- 2001
Calm, cool, collected, who cares if he's just a bunch of silicone?
Judge Doom- Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
Seriously, who still isn't freaked out by that scene where he
unmasks... "And when I KILLLEDD your BROTHER, I TALLLKED LIIIKKEE
THIIIISS!"
Auric Goldfinger-Goldfinger
The best of the Bond villians in the best of the Bond films. Gotta
admire a man with ambition.
John Doe-Seven
Doesn't have much screen time, but he makes up for it with pure
creepiness.
Keyser Soze-The Usual Suspects
Sometimes the evilest of all is the unknown.
Dr. Evil-Austin Powers:International man of Mystery
Who said the villian had to be competant? Too bad he won't be back in
the sequel,from what I've heard.
The Joker-Batman
Jack Nicholson kidnapped this movie for better or worse, and made the
role completely his. I can't see anyone doing this role better -ever-.
Nurse Ratchett-One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
One of the sublest villians to appear on screen.
The Alien-Alien and Aliens
From subtle to outright terror.
Alex Forrest-Fatal Attraction
Not a man on earth doesn't get scared from this one.
Hans Gruber-Die Hard
The first of 2 great Alan Rickman performances. And the re-emergance
of the great old style Goldfinger villian.
The Sheriff of Nottigham-Robin Hood:Prince of Thieves
The 2nd great Rickman villian. "I'll cut his heart out with a SPOON!"
Maleficent-Sleeping Beauty
Warping the minds of children for 60 years now. Who says Disney isn't
evil?
Cruella De Ville-101 Dalmatians
The animated villian, not the live action version. Cruel to the
extreme, I mean puppies??
Jason Dean-Heathers
Sure, it's a Jack Nicholson imitation, but it's a good one. One
question, why didn't he play the villians in Broken Arrow and Hard
Rain?
Khan-Star Trek:The Wrath of Khan
Delightfully over the top. The best of the Star Trek villians.
Hannibal Lecter-The Silence of the Lambs
This movie was -suppossed- to be about Jodie Foster. Another Grand
Theft Movie.
Castor Troy-Face/Off
Well both main actors had their shot at him, and they both did great.
A memorable movie all around.
Jaws-Jaws
Don't mess with a mother, regardless of species.
Al Capone-The Untouchables/Big Boy Caprice-Dick Tracy
Lumped together because they are basically the straight and wild end
of the same character.
> Any others that you would pick?
Leary - In the Line of Fire: John Malkovitch's starmaking role.
Stealing thunder from Clint Eastwood can't be easy.
Ivan - Air Force One: The really scary thing is that he doesn't
think he's doing anything wrong. He said "You carpet bombed
Iraq to save 10 cents on oil, so how am I so bad?"
The T-1000 - Terminator 2: Any villian that can beat the crap
out of Arnold stays in my record book.
Top Dollar - The Crow: Michael Wincott was very good as providing
a proper "balance" to the movie when Brandon Lee wasn't shown.
Aaron/Roy - Primal Fear: One very good twist is that you don't know
how evil he really is until the very last minute of the movie.
Billy & Stu - Scream: Nothing like breaking (or slashing) the
fourth wall by introducing movie villians who *think* they're villians
in a movie.
those are my pix..
In Rob Roy he was so overwhelmingly better than poor Liam Nielsen.And his
Dutch in Hoodlum was excellent too.
Peti
Gian Maria Volonte as Indio "For a Few Dollars More"
what a scary bandid.
Jeff Bridges as Barney "The Vanishing"
Rutger Hauer as John Ryder "The Hitcher"
It's not safe picking up hitchhikers.
Kevin Spacey as John Doe "Se7en"
The scariest of them all has to be Robert De Niro as MAX CADY in
"Cape Fear" he's the kind of guy you don't want as a cell mate.
John
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Oui, but the French version was SO MUCH BETTER!!!
> Rutger Hauer as John Ryder "The Hitcher"
> It's not safe picking up hitchhikers.
YES!!
> The scariest of them all has to be Robert De Niro as MAX CADY in
> "Cape Fear" he's the kind of guy you don't want as a cell mate.
Hmmmm, I think Robert Mitchum did a much better job. Maybe it's because
I find him to be so much more handsome than DeNiro that the
semi-seduction scene with the daughter came off so much better.
Oooo yes for the Rob Roy role.
I also loved Alan Rickman in Robin Hood
And Gary Oldman in the 5th Element (one of the funnier films I saw last
year).
I'm a bit of a sucker of villains with a sense of humour. Especially
the one's who seem to be saying "I'm surrounded by incompetants".
(or are we supposed to choose most effective at villainy?)
Kevin Spacey in 7even was quite effective. I loved his reasoning about
not being insane. Makes him scarier.
Sigourney Weaver in Snow White: A Tale of Terror was quite effective as
the Step Mother/Witch.
Linda
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Kurtwood Smith's Clarence in ROBOCOP-"Can you fly, Bobby?"
Bruce Dern's Longhair in THE COWBOYS-As John Wayne said, "Dern, you're going to
be hated everywhere in the world for this one."
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Iago in Othello (the bastard.)
The one I like to see kill irritating characters:
The Dentist (of the same name.)
For best rampage:
The Hidden (of the same name.)
Arnold in terminator.
The Warlock (of the same name.)
Here's something fun to try:
Take a "Murder, She Wrote" fan sometime and show them Angela Lansbury as
Sen. Iselin's wife in "The Manchurian Candidate"... ; )
Derek Janssen
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Max Cady in 'Cape Fear' (Both versions)
and pretty much anything elese that DeNiro plays a villan in, ditto with
Kevin Spacy.
Denis Hopper in 'Blue Velvet' and 'Speed'
Kevin Kline in 'A Fish Called Wanda'
The Borg in 'Star Trek VIII'
Malom McDowell in 'A Clockwork Orange'
John Malciovich in 'In the Line of Fire'
Oddjob in 'Goldfinger'
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Skeletor
I am aware of the laughs this will cause, ;)
but damn that was a great performance.
"Thank you for that bit of philosophy Sorceress."
Love it!!!!!
Synthuser
> > Castor Troy-Face/Off
> > Well both main actors had their shot at him, and they both did great.
> Gian Maria Volonte as Indio "For a Few Dollars More"
> what a scary bandid.
>
> Jeff Bridges as Barney "The Vanishing"
>
> Rutger Hauer as John Ryder "The Hitcher"
> It's not safe picking up hitchhikers.
>
> Kevin Spacey as John Doe "Se7en"
>
> The scariest of them all has to be Robert De Niro as MAX CADY in
> "Cape Fear" he's the kind of guy you don't want as a cell mate.
>
> John
I agree with all these. They were all great.
I can't believe I forgat Kevin Spacey.
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: Here's something fun to try:
: Take a "Murder, She Wrote" fan sometime and show them Angela Lansbury as
: Sen. Iselin's wife in "The Manchurian Candidate"... ; )
Faa, everyone knows that Angela Lansbury is the one who kills
all those people on "Murder, She Wrote", so she can drum up
business for herself. I mean, if any normal person kept
stumbling across murder victims all the time, he or she would
probably end up traumatized and in therapy for the rest of
his or her life. But no, Lansbury never bats an eye.
It's entirely in the MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE character...
(This concept of "Murder, She Wrote" isn't mine; it's an amusing
bit from an otherwise poor comic-book I used to read, "Hellblazer".
Give credit where it's due.)
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In article <34fcf...@katana.randori.com>,
"Sektor 9" <doo...@mis.net> wrote:
>
> The Grandma for "The Woodchipper Massacre"
> the mechanic from "Satanic Mechanic"
> whoever the villians were in "North"
> Randy Quaid in "Parents"
> and...umm.....Zues in "No Holds Barred"
>
> those are my pix..
>
> >
> >Castor Troy-Face/Off
> >Well both main actors had their shot at him, and they both did great.
> >A memorable movie all around.
> >
> >Jaws-Jaws
> >Don't mess with a mother, regardless of species.
> >
> >Al Capone-The Untouchables/Big Boy Caprice-Dick Tracy
> >Lumped together because they are basically the straight and wild end
> >of the same character.
> >
> >Any others that you would pick?
>
>
In article <34FCD8...@ultranet.com>,
Derek Janssen <dja...@ultranet.com> wrote:
>
> Walker Murray wrote:
> >
> > Reagen Sulewski wrote in message
> > >
> > >Any others that you would pick?
> >
> > Harry Lime in "The Third Man." That even gaze, that sonorous voice, the
> > delicately unnverving justification of his hideous crimes. {Shiver.}
>
> (--Hey, he's got the same film professor!) ; )
>
> Derek Janssen
> dja...@ultranet.com
> -------
> (OR, there's also the possibility that Alex never actually saw it,
> but...NAAHHH, THAT can't be possible, can it?...
>
> >Any others that you would pick?
>
>
> Skeletor
>
> I am aware of the laughs this will cause, ;)
> but damn that was a great performance.
<chuckle> As long as we're allowing animated characters, I'd have to toss my
nom in for "Scar" from "The Lion King". Jeremey Irons _defined_ "cool
villain" in that movie. :)
-Ryan
http://www.lionking.org/~ryan/
Although if you want some REAL John Glover evil, try his performance as
Brother Leon in the low-budget-indie version of "The Chocolate War"...
Derek Janssen
dja...@ultranet.com
Malcolm McDowell in "Cat People"
Agreed! I'd also give a vote to Tommy Lee Jones and Gary Busey in
"Under Siege". The scene with Busey, in drag, asking if he looks
mentally unstable is a classic!
John Malvokich in "In the Line of Fire" was great. But the most sleazy
villain of all was probably...William H. Macy in "Fargo"! Absolutely
brilliant.
Damian P.
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> Agreed! I'd also give a vote to Tommy Lee Jones and Gary Busey in
> "Under Siege". The scene with Busey, in drag, asking if he looks
> mentally unstable is a classic!
Yes! That is hilarious lol! I thought Busey was
great the whole flick as well. TLJ was good too.
The best SS flick IMO.
Synthuser
> <chuckle> As long as we're allowing animated characters, I'd have to toss my
> nom in for "Scar" from "The Lion King". Jeremey Irons _defined_ "cool
> villain" in that movie. :)
Oh sure. That voice...
Also I apologize for not being clear in my
previous post. I meant Skeletor from the live
action movie "Masters of the Universe."
Synthuser :)
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Billy McKinney and Herbert "Cowboy" Coward in Deliverance
- four words - Squeal like a pig
The terrorist gang in Assault On Precinct 13
- like the arachnids in ST. non speaking and they're everywhere
Marylin Chambers in Rabid
- she kills you by hugging.
Tom Noonan in Manhunter
- Anyone who uses Iron Butterfly as music to kill by is creepy in my book
Kathy Bates in Misery
- Hobbling scene. nuff said.
Vincent Price in Bloodbath In The House Of Death
- Crap film, but Price is damn funny as the leader of an evil cult.*
That's all I can think of for now
Leechboy
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Where everything is bad, it must be good to know the worst
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Speaking of Alan Rickman, he was a damn good villian in "Closet Land".
ROBOT VILLIANS!!!! Yul Brynner in Westworld. Don't think I've ever
seen the above mentioned movie....
Yeah, Brynner was scary too. Funny thing, that Westworld robot was my favorite
villain until I saw Fonda in "Once Upon A Time In The West"
Robert Coakley <r.co...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article :
>
> Aaron/Roy - Primal Fear: One very good twist is that you don't know
> how evil he really is until the very last minute of the movie.
Speak for yourself...I had the "twist" of that film figured
out almost as soon as they started in on the multiple
personalities thing. But I admit he *was* a great villain
whatever happened to Edward Norton, anyway? He had
3 high-profile film roles last year and since then seems
to have dropped off the map.
Carrie
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have to worry about fallin' on it - Meldrick Lewis
Aryan vilains always get me. Peter Lorre in M, Rutger Hauer in BLADE
RUNNER. When I was a child I thought Robert Shaw (FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE)
was a frightening terminator. Arnold should play a kinky torturer in
those ILSA flicks. It should be a camp delight. And I am still waiting
for Harrison Ford to play a Nazi general with penchant for electrocuting
his prisoners' scrotum. His aging cranky facade looks creepy to me.
<snicker>
(O-kayyy: WHO'S the nutster who posted the looped-out prank post and
signed Alex's name?--C'mon, quit kidding around, we're tryin' to be
serious here...) ; D
Derek Janssen
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Can I, um, buy some of that crack off you?
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Mylene Smith wrote in message <35000A...@clemson.edu>...
>Patrick David Dixon wrote:
>>
>> I think Alan Rickman in "Die Hard" is pretty cool.
>>
>Speaking of Alan Rickman, he was a damn good villian in "Closet Land".
i'm sorry, but "closetland" has to be the most pretentious, boring and
sophomoric movie of its decade. how anybody could have been good in it is
beyond me. it wasn't rickman's fault, but how any actor could portray 100%
literal symbols is beyond me. bored to death.
tulisan
> Speak for yourself...I had the "twist" of that film figured
> out almost as soon as they started in on the multiple
> personalities thing. But I admit he *was* a great villain
> whatever happened to Edward Norton, anyway? He had
> 3 high-profile film roles last year and since then seems
> to have dropped off the map.
Let's not count anybody out. "American History X," the neo-Nazi film, is,
I think, in the can, "Rounders," some kind of poker thriller, with Matt
Damon and others, directed by John Dahl, is filming now, and he also
narrated a segment of "Out of the Past," which won awards at Sundance.
Apparently Jim Carrey will be playing Andy Kaufman in the new bio-pic, but
Norton would have been perfect for it, and casting directors aren't going
to forget him. They'd be crazy to.
Alex Christensen http://www.wlu.edu/~aechrist/
"Yes, I am an alien from Mars. I come to earth from outer space."
--Paul Simon & Derek Walcott, "The Capeman"
>
>Any others that you would pick?
Jack Dawson in Titanic...pure evil there
Jen
Carrie...
The T-rex and Velociraptors in Jurassic Park...
And of course, Freddie Krueger!
>What about Jaws in the 007 movies....
>Carrie...
>The T-rex and Velociraptors in Jurassic Park...
>And of course, Freddie Krueger!
The late Robert Mitchum wins this award hands-down!
Regards,
Michael
Okay, but from what movie. He didn't always play a bad guy.
> >
> > The late Robert Mitchum wins this award hands-down!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Michael
>
> Okay, but from what movie. He didn't always play a bad guy.
Probably 'Cape Fear' for one.
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Gary wrote:
> Mylene Smith wrote:
>
> > >
> > > The late Robert Mitchum wins this award hands-down!
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Michael
> >
> > Okay, but from what movie. He didn't always play a bad guy.
>
> Probably 'Cape Fear' for one.
>
> --
I didn't see CAPE FEAR, but the best villain I ever saw Mitchum do was
THE NIGHT OF THE HUNTER. Come to think of it, it's the best job I ever
saw Mitchum do, period.
I have seen much better villains, however. Offhand, one of the best I
can remember are Anthony Hopkins' Hannibal Lecter from THE SILENCE OF
THE LAMBS, and Alan Rickman's villain (nameless, as best I recall) from
CLOSET LAND. The latter is not a very good movie, but it has the
slimiest villain that The Master of slimy villains ever played.
Respectfully,
Daniel R. Baker.
(Disclaimers ad nauseam).
D
In article <34FD99...@clemson.edu>,
myl...@clemson.edu wrote:
>
> <snipped>
> > Jeff Bridges as Barney "The Vanishing"
>
> Oui, but the French version was SO MUCH BETTER!!!
>
> > Rutger Hauer as John Ryder "The Hitcher"
> > It's not safe picking up hitchhikers.
>
> YES!!
>
> > The scariest of them all has to be Robert De Niro as MAX CADY in
> > "Cape Fear" he's the kind of guy you don't want as a cell mate.
>
> Hmmmm, I think Robert Mitchum did a much better job. Maybe it's because
> I find him to be so much more handsome than DeNiro that the
> semi-seduction scene with the daughter came off so much better.