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Since when is Captain Jack Harkness homosexual, not bi/omnisexual?

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Mark F

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Aug 2, 2011, 10:35:16 AM8/2/11
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I thought Captain Jack Harkness was omnisexual,
more options than homosexual, at least, but
"Torchwood: Web of Lies" treats him as homosexual.

(Both other characters and the Harkness character
have referred to him as homosexual.)

Did I miss a switch in the character's sexuality
or is the US show too shy to use the term bisexual
or omnisexual?

The Doctor

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Aug 2, 2011, 10:46:46 AM8/2/11
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In article <082g3798mofvkl2g9...@4ax.com>,

URL to TW Web of Lies?

I wonder if Radio Free Skaro has picked up on this?
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The Doctor

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Aug 2, 2011, 4:57:45 PM8/2/11
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In article <chine.bleu-D883A...@news.eternal-september.org>,

Light the China Blue Touch Paper <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>In article <082g3798mofvkl2g9...@4ax.com>,
> Mark F <mark...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I thought Captain Jack Harkness was omnisexual,
>> more options than homosexual, at least, but
>> "Torchwood: Web of Lies" treats him as homosexual.
>
>It's part of the current political correctness that gays are born that way and
>you can't 'cure' it nor even try, but straights can be cured by one passionate
>glance. Like the Ianto bit. People rarely change their orientation, straight or
>gay.
>
>> Did I miss a switch in the character's sexuality
>> or is the US show too shy to use the term bisexual
>> or omnisexual?
>
>Bis are treated by gays the same way gays are treated by straights. No
>politically hip bi would admit to it.
>

I call non-heterosexuality political correctness.

AC

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Aug 4, 2011, 7:07:08 AM8/4/11
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I noticed that too. There is no sign what so ever in this series that he
also likes women. I also wonder if its an American thing. Perhaps it
would be too confusing for them. Or, maybe they think American viewers
dont know and later on he goes with a woman as some sort of "amazing"
reveal later?

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solar penguin

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Aug 4, 2011, 8:34:34 AM8/4/11
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On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 05:01:30 -0700, China Blue Peter wrote:

>
> In which previous episode of Torchwood did he go with a woman?

He had a daughter in "Children of Earth", clearly implying that he'd been
with a woman.

And he flirted a little bit with Gwen in some of the early season 1
episodes.

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The Doctor

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Aug 4, 2011, 10:02:36 AM8/4/11
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Jack has done women.

solar penguin

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Aug 4, 2011, 12:47:29 PM8/4/11
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On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 05:55:37 -0700, China Blue Peter wrote:

> In article <j1e3kq$t2p$1...@dont-email.me>,


> solar penguin <solar....@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 05:01:30 -0700, China Blue Peter wrote:
>>
>>
>> > In which previous episode of Torchwood did he go with a woman?
>>
>> He had a daughter in "Children of Earth", clearly implying that he'd
>> been with a woman.
>

> And gays never have children.

That's not what you asked. Don't go changing the goalposts.

AC

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Aug 4, 2011, 1:18:04 PM8/4/11
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The Doctor wrote:
> In article<A3v_p.101991$_r1....@newsfe06.ams2>, AC<x...@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>> Mark F wrote:
>>> I thought Captain Jack Harkness was omnisexual,
>>> more options than homosexual, at least, but
>>> "Torchwood: Web of Lies" treats him as homosexual.
>>>
>>> (Both other characters and the Harkness character
>>> have referred to him as homosexual.)
>>>
>>> Did I miss a switch in the character's sexuality
>>> or is the US show too shy to use the term bisexual
>>> or omnisexual?
>>
>> I noticed that too. There is no sign what so ever in this series that he
>> also likes women. I also wonder if its an American thing. Perhaps it
>> would be too confusing for them. Or, maybe they think American viewers
>> dont know and later on he goes with a woman as some sort of "amazing"
>> reveal later?
>>
>> --
>> AC
>
> Jack has done women.

Well done, you understood my post.

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AC

The Doctor

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Aug 4, 2011, 2:59:29 PM8/4/11
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In article <j1eif1$ies$1...@dont-email.me>,

solar penguin <solar....@googlemail.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 05:55:37 -0700, China Blue Peter wrote:
>
>> In article <j1e3kq$t2p$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> solar penguin <solar....@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 05:01:30 -0700, China Blue Peter wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> > In which previous episode of Torchwood did he go with a woman?
>>>
>>> He had a daughter in "Children of Earth", clearly implying that he'd
>>> been with a woman.
>>
>> And gays never have children.
>
>That's not what you asked. Don't go changing the goalposts.

Well there is Jack and John.

The Doctor

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Aug 4, 2011, 2:59:45 PM8/4/11
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10/10 .

Agamemnon

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Aug 4, 2011, 3:52:17 PM8/4/11
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"AC" <x...@xxx.xxx> wrote in message
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> Mark F wrote:
>> I thought Captain Jack Harkness was omnisexual,
>> more options than homosexual, at least, but
>> "Torchwood: Web of Lies" treats him as homosexual.
>>
>> (Both other characters and the Harkness character
>> have referred to him as homosexual.)
>>
>> Did I miss a switch in the character's sexuality
>> or is the US show too shy to use the term bisexual
>> or omnisexual?
>
> I noticed that too. There is no sign what so ever in this series that he
> also likes women. I also wonder if its an American thing. Perhaps it

You mean appart from calling Gwen when he was lying in bed together with
that bar man?

Stephen Wilson

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Aug 4, 2011, 6:58:23 PM8/4/11
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"China Blue Peter" <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> In article <A3v_p.101991$_r1....@newsfe06.ams2>, AC <x...@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> In which previous episode of Torchwood did he go with a woman?

The original idea of Torchwood was that you could never be completely
certain about the sexuality of the characters. Captain Jack was always meant
to be "omnisexual". Ianto had a girlfriend before becoming Jack's boyfriend.
Etc...


The Doctor

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Aug 4, 2011, 9:04:15 PM8/4/11
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In article <VdmdneaE7oPvZafT...@eclipse.net.uk>,

Jack in a gay bar. Nice box.

Ken Arromdee

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Aug 5, 2011, 2:14:01 PM8/5/11
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Making him omnisexual might lead to an awkward scene with the child rapist
saying "yeah, you shouldn't have forced her and killed her, but damn she
was cute".

On the other end of the age spectrum, there was Small Worlds, where Jack
meets an old girlfriend as an old woman. He shows concern for her, but no
sexual attraction.
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AC

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Agamemnon wrote:
> "AC"<x...@xxx.xxx> wrote in message
> news:A3v_p.101991$_r1....@newsfe06.ams2...
>> Mark F wrote:
>>> I thought Captain Jack Harkness was omnisexual,
>>> more options than homosexual, at least, but
>>> "Torchwood: Web of Lies" treats him as homosexual.
>>>
>>> (Both other characters and the Harkness character
>>> have referred to him as homosexual.)
>>>
>>> Did I miss a switch in the character's sexuality
>>> or is the US show too shy to use the term bisexual
>>> or omnisexual?
>>
>> I noticed that too. There is no sign what so ever in this series that he
>> also likes women. I also wonder if its an American thing. Perhaps it
>
> You mean appart from calling Gwen when he was lying in bed together with
> that bar man?

Aye?


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Tahi

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Aug 5, 2011, 5:17:21 PM8/5/11
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> On the other end of the age spectrum, there was Small Worlds, where Jack
> meets an old girlfriend as an old woman. He shows concern for her, but no
> sexual attraction.
> --
Oh? He said he 'loved her at first sight'!


Tahi

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Aug 5, 2011, 5:36:35 PM8/5/11
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"China Blue Peter" <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> In article <j1e3kq$t2p$1...@dont-email.me>,
> solar penguin <solar....@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 05:01:30 -0700, China Blue Peter wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > In which previous episode of Torchwood did he go with a woman?
>>
>> He had a daughter in "Children of Earth", clearly implying that he'd been
>> with a woman.
>
> And gays never have children.
>
Her mothers name was given as Lucia something, another Torchwood staff
member.


john smith

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Aug 5, 2011, 6:37:08 PM8/5/11
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"Ken Arromdee" <arro...@rahul.net> wrote in message
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> Making him omnisexual might lead to an awkward scene with the child rapist
> saying "yeah, you shouldn't have forced her and killed her, but damn she
> was cute".
>
> On the other end of the age spectrum, there was Small Worlds, where Jack
> meets an old girlfriend as an old woman. He shows concern for her, but no
> sexual attraction.
> --


"Omnisexual" doesn't equate with gerontophilia!

The Doctor

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Aug 5, 2011, 7:07:38 PM8/5/11
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In article <acKdnVxnJaFDwKHT...@brightview.co.uk>,

What abut JAck's daughter?

Charles E. Hardwidge

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Aug 6, 2011, 7:42:12 AM8/6/11
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I have to protest that the word "pansexual" isn't getting enough usage.

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Charles E. Hardwidge

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"john smith" <the_jo...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> "Ken Arromdee" <arro...@rahul.net> wrote in message
> news:j1hbt9$p1q$1...@blue-new.rahul.net...

>> On the other end of the age spectrum, there was Small Worlds, where Jack


>> meets an old girlfriend as an old woman. He shows concern for her, but
>> no
>> sexual attraction.
>

> "Omnisexual" doesn't equate with gerontophilia!

Bit of ponce sneaking out there. Equate??? *scoff* *scoff*

So WTF is a bisexual transexual Mr Keep Your Hands to Yourself?


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Ken Arromdee

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Aug 6, 2011, 1:57:24 PM8/6/11
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>> On the other end of the age spectrum, there was Small Worlds, where Jack
>> meets an old girlfriend as an old woman. He shows concern for her, but no
>> sexual attraction.
>Oh? He said he 'loved her at first sight'!

Meaning that he was attracted to her when she was young, not attracted to
her as a senior citizen.

john smith

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"Charles E. Hardwidge" <nos...@invalid.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "john smith" <the_jo...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:rg__p.117277$OV1....@newsfe29.ams2...
>> "Ken Arromdee" <arro...@rahul.net> wrote in message
>> news:j1hbt9$p1q$1...@blue-new.rahul.net...
>
>>> On the other end of the age spectrum, there was Small Worlds, where Jack
>>> meets an old girlfriend as an old woman. He shows concern for her, but
>>> no
>>> sexual attraction.
>>
>> "Omnisexual" doesn't equate with gerontophilia!
>
> Bit of ponce sneaking out there. Equate??? *scoff* *scoff*

Hah! You think the word "equate" is poncey?!? Are you a fucking retard?

The Doctor

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In article <0Hg%p.102766$T85....@newsfe19.ams2>,

john smith <the_jo...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
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>"Charles E. Hardwidge" <nos...@invalid.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:j1j9m0$d38$1...@dont-email.me...
>> "john smith" <the_jo...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:rg__p.117277$OV1....@newsfe29.ams2...
>>> "Ken Arromdee" <arro...@rahul.net> wrote in message
>>> news:j1hbt9$p1q$1...@blue-new.rahul.net...
>>
>>>> On the other end of the age spectrum, there was Small Worlds, where Jack
>>>> meets an old girlfriend as an old woman. He shows concern for her, but
>>>> no
>>>> sexual attraction.
>>>
>>> "Omnisexual" doesn't equate with gerontophilia!
>>
>> Bit of ponce sneaking out there. Equate??? *scoff* *scoff*
>
>
>
>Hah! You think the word "equate" is poncey?!? Are you a retard?
>
>
>
>
>>
>> So WT is a bisexual transexual Mr Keep Your Hands to Yourself?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Charles E. Hardwidge
>>
>
>

Make a goog guess.

Charles E. Hardwidge

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"john smith" <the_jo...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> "Charles E. Hardwidge" <nos...@invalid.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:j1j9m0$d38$1...@dont-email.me...
>> "john smith" <the_jo...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:rg__p.117277$OV1....@newsfe29.ams2...
>>> "Ken Arromdee" <arro...@rahul.net> wrote in message
>>> news:j1hbt9$p1q$1...@blue-new.rahul.net...
>>
>>>> On the other end of the age spectrum, there was Small Worlds, where
>>>> Jack meets an old girlfriend as an old woman. He shows concern for
>>>> her, but no sexual attraction.
>>>
>>> "Omnisexual" doesn't equate with gerontophilia!
>>
>> Bit of ponce sneaking out there. Equate??? *scoff* *scoff*
>
> Hah! You think the word "equate" is poncey?!? Are you a fucking retard?

If you're looking for a snappy comeback call my agent to discuss rates.

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Duggy

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Aug 10, 2011, 12:36:44 AM8/10/11
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On Aug 3, 12:35 am, Mark F <mark53...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I thought Captain Jack Harkness was omnisexual,
> more options than homosexual, at least, but
> "Torchwood: Web of Lies" treats him as homosexual.
>
> (Both other characters and the Harkness character
> have referred to him as homosexual.)
>
> Did I miss a switch in the character's sexuality
> or is the US show too shy to use the term bisexual
> or omnisexual?

Because heterosexual is the norm, bisexuals are often referred as
homosexual because that's the bit that makes them "different."

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Aug 27, 2011, 11:45:08 PM8/27/11
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On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 12:07:08 +0100, in rec.arts.drwho AC <x...@xxx.xxx> wrote:

ĄMark F wrote:
Ą> I thought Captain Jack Harkness was omnisexual,
Ą> more options than homosexual, at least, but
Ą> "Torchwood: Web of Lies" treats him as homosexual.
Ą>
Ą> (Both other characters and the Harkness character
Ą> have referred to him as homosexual.)
Ą>
Ą> Did I miss a switch in the character's sexuality
Ą> or is the US show too shy to use the term bisexual
Ą> or omnisexual?
Ą
ĄI noticed that too. There is no sign what so ever in this series that he
Ąalso likes women. I also wonder if its an American thing. Perhaps it
Ąwould be too confusing for them. Or, maybe they think American viewers
Ądont know and later on he goes with a woman as some sort of "amazing"
Ąreveal later?
Ą
Ą--
ĄAC

His first reference in Doctor Who was bragging about escaping while in a three some
with both. It was usually as a opportunistic fashion. A sort of whore.


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