SPOILERS: Dec97 X-Books
Rajiv Mote
There are some SPOILERS for some of the December 1997 X-books on
American Entertainment's "Mania" website: www.smash.mgz.com
The pages are on the server, but aren't yet linked to the index. You've
got to be a little clever, but you can still take a look at them. For
those of you who don't want to take the time, here are the spoilers they
had for the X-Men related comics. Note that solicitations weren't
posted for all the books.
I'm hoping this text has provided enough SPOILER SPACE to please
everyone.
Here we go.
Ahem.
Excalibur #117
(W) Ben Raab
(A) Melvin Rubi
Beginning a new focus for Excalibur, as Kitty Pryde, Colossus and
Nightcrawler (the ex-members of the X-Men) jump into the spotlight!
Forced into a corner by the deadly Shi'ar Sidrian Hunters, Colossus and
Nightcrawler must tap into their training at the hands of Professor
Xavier to survive.
X-Man '97
(W) Chris Golden
(A) Ramon Bernado
Nate Grey encounters three faces from the Age of Apocalypse in this
48-page annual! When the Shi'Ar discover a disturbance that originates
from Earth, they discover four beings who shouldn't even exist in this
reality: Nate Sugar Man, Dark Beast, and Holocaust! Finding themselves
judged guilty of "blasphemy" for merely living in this reality, the four
former foes must now band together if they hope to survive!
Maverick #6
(W) Jorge Gonzalez
(A) Jimmy Cheung and Andrew Pepoy
Maverick -- caught in a deadly game of cat-and-mouse with Sabretooth!
Elena Ivanova, locked onto a path of vengeance, has followed the path of
the viscous Victor Creed from the pages of X-Factor. Maverick smells a
set-up and he's right! Can Maverick convince Elena to give peace a
chance before Sabretooth adds another name to his hit list? Plus: Chris
Bradley discovers the truth about Maverick and the Legacy Virus!
Kitty Pryde: Agent of S.H.E.I.L.D. #3 (of 3)
(W) Larry Hama
(A) Jesus Redondo and Sergio Melia
Concluding Kitty's all-new limited series! It's the final showdown with
Ogun as he insinuates himself in the S.H.E.I.L.D. helicarrier computers
yet again! Will Kitty get her life back from this deadly martial arts
master, or will she live out the remainder of her days as Ogun's slave?
Bishop: Xavier's Security Enforcer #2 (of 3)
(W) John Ostrander
(A) Steve Epting
Accused of Murder, Bishop is hunted by the force he once led -- the
X.S.E.I. Meanwhile, Rook, the evil telepath that framed Bishop, fans the
flames in the human / mutant war! But which side will the infamous
Hellfire Club side with?
Longshot
(W) J. M. Dematteis
(A) Michael Zulli and Al Williamson
The luckiest mutant alive returns to the Marvel Universe. Finally, he's
off Mojoworld and on Earth! And something tells him that he's not in
Kansas anymore -- well, actually, he is! You see, Longshot has in fact
landed smack in the middle of America's heartland -- but he's brought a
malevolent creature from Mojoverse with him! All Longshot wants to do is
travel to New York City and reunite with his former teammates, but if he
doesn't take responsibility for what he's unintentionally unleashed,
then the monster will feast on the souls of the innocent. 48 page one
shot.
Tales of the Age of Apocalypse: Sinister Bloodline
(W) John Francis Moore
(A) Steve Epting
It's a return to the twisted alternate world in an untold tale that
plants many seeds for the original Age of Apocalypse saga! Years before
fandom entered the Age of Apocalypse, an alien craft landed in New York
City and changed the life of Cyclops and Havok, the Summers Brothers,
forever! Onboard is there missing father, Corsair, but perhaps he is now
not what he seems to be! Learn why Cyclops turned toward rebellion, why
Havok choose to ascend to the rank of Prelate and more secrets of their
heated history!
X-Men / Wildcats: The Dark Age #1
(W) Warren Ellis
(A) Mat Broome and Sean Parsons
This is it, the final hour of the final day of the final year! It's the
end of humanity, as well as super-humanity, unless the combined forces
of the X-men (including Wolverine, Storm and Kitty Pryde) and the
WildC.A.T.s (including Warblade, Voodoo and Emp) can somehow manage to
stop the Daemonites and the Sentinels -- and the hellish hybrids they've
unleashed on a ravaged world! 48 page one shot.
Generation X / Gen 13
(W) James Robinson
(A) Salvador Larroca
The two most popular teams -- in one awesome adventure! A sun-soaked
Mexican resort -- sounds like the perfect place for some sun and fun,
right? That's what the kids of Generation X and Gen13 think -- until
they stumble upon a black market organ transplant ring. And just what
sort of organs does the illegal organization's leader, Mr. Pretorious,
specialize in? Those from mutant teenagers, of course. 48 page one
shot.
[And here are some tangentially X-related solicitations.]
Elektra # 15
(W) Larry Hama
(A) Mike Deodato Jr. and Scott Koblish
Elektra heads for Tokyo in search of Wolverine's friend Yukio -- and
instead runs into the arms of the Silver Samurai! Is Elektra working for
the dreaded Hand once again, and if not, how can she prove it to Logan's
former foe? Featuring more dark, dank dungeons and gore-spattered walls
than you can shake a sai at!
Alpha Flight #7
(W) Steven Seagle
(A) Scott Clark and Chris Carlson
Beta Flight? Heather and Mac kissing? Energy Sentinels? Radiation
Poisoning? All of the evils inside Canada's most subversive government
agency simultaneously explode, threatening to consume the new Alpha
Flight! Alpha Flight has roped in readers with new creators, established
characters and a machinistic web crafted by DC/Vertigo writer Steven
(Sandman Mystery Theater) Seagle. The title has become an enthralling
collection of mysteries." (Wizard)
Deadpool #13
(W) Joe Kelly
(A) Shannon Denton and Nathan Massengill
This is it: Deadpool vs. T-Ray. Deadpool descends back into the pit of
violence and rage, and what he does to Weasel and Blind Al is
unspeakable! Plus: more on the mysterious Gerry and Zoe Culloden, and a
surprise opening that is matched in its intensity only by the shock
ending! It's a mind-blower that sets up Deadpool year two!
David Smith
On Thu, 18 Sep 1997, Rajiv Mote wrote:
>
> There are some SPOILERS for some of the December 1997 X-books on
> American Entertainment's "Mania" website: www.smash.mgz.com
>
> The pages are on the server, but aren't yet linked to the index. You've
> got to be a little clever, but you can still take a look at them. For
> those of you who don't want to take the time, here are the spoilers they
> had for the X-Men related comics. Note that solicitations weren't
> posted for all the books.
>
> I'm hoping this text has provided enough SPOILER SPACE to please
> everyone.
And I'll leave it in, so it can do the job for which it was intended.
> Here we go.
>
> Ahem.
>
> Excalibur #117
> (W) Ben Raab
Gack.
> (A) Melvin Rubi
Double gack.
> X-Man '97
> (W) Chris Golden
A writer of many comic-based novels, unless I miss my guess. Has
he written anything for comics before?
> Nate Grey encounters three faces from the Age of Apocalypse in this
> 48-page annual! When the Shi'Ar discover a disturbance that originates
> from Earth, they discover four beings who shouldn't even exist in this
> reality: Nate Sugar Man, Dark Beast, and Holocaust! Finding themselves
> judged guilty of "blasphemy" for merely living in this reality, the four
> former foes must now band together if they hope to survive!
I'm not terribly fond of any of these three villains, but the story
sounds interesting enough, and Mr. Lander, as I recall, gave high marks
to Mr. Golden's X-Men prose stories.
> Maverick #6
> (W) Jorge Gonzalez
> (A) Jimmy Cheung and Andrew Pepoy
> Maverick -- caught in a deadly game of cat-and-mouse with Sabretooth!
> Elena Ivanova, locked onto a path of vengeance, has followed the path of
> the viscous Victor Creed from the pages of X-Factor.
Viscous? How Lovecraftian.
> Will Kitty get her life back from this deadly martial arts
> master, or will she live out the remainder of her days as Ogun's slave?
Been here, done this. Couldn't Mr. Hama have come up with a new
villain for this piece?
> Bishop: Xavier's Security Enforcer #2 (of 3)
> (W) John Ostrander
> (A) Steve Epting
> Accused of Murder, Bishop is hunted by the force he once led -- the
> X.S.E.I.
Sure to add further confusion as to exactly what this nonsense stands
for.
> Longshot
> (W) J. M. Dematteis
> (A) Michael Zulli and Al Williamson
Michael Zulli? Of PUMA BLUES and SANDMAN fame? Bit of a change of
pace.
> The luckiest mutant alive returns to the Marvel Universe. Finally, he's
> off Mojoworld and on Earth! And something tells him that he's not in
> Kansas anymore -- well, actually, he is! You see, Longshot has in fact
> landed smack in the middle of America's heartland -- but he's brought a
> malevolent creature from Mojoverse with him!
Something very familiar about all of this...
> X-Men / Wildcats: The Dark Age #1
> (W) Warren Ellis
Ellis fhtagn! Ellis fhtagn!
> (A) Mat Broome and Sean Parsons
> This is it, the final hour of the final day of the final year! It's the
> end of humanity, as well as super-humanity, unless the combined forces
> of the X-men (including Wolverine, Storm and Kitty Pryde) and the
> WildC.A.T.s (including Warblade, Voodoo and Emp) can somehow manage to
> stop the Daemonites and the Sentinels -- and the hellish hybrids they've
> unleashed on a ravaged world!
A pity Mr. Charest couldn't finish this, but I still won't miss it for
the world.
> Generation X / Gen 13
> (W) James Robinson
Hm. His Gen X issues weren't terribly inspiring, but he beats Brandon
Choi by a long shot.
> (A) Salvador Larroca
He's certainly keeping busy. Particularly so soon after Heroes
Return.
> [And here are some tangentially X-related solicitations.]
>
> Elektra # 15
> Featuring more dark, dank dungeons and gore-spattered walls
> than you can shake a sai at!
How ever shall I resist?
> Deadpool #13
> (W) Joe Kelly
> (A) Shannon Denton
Which issues did this person fill in on?
> and Nathan Massengill
> This is it: Deadpool vs. T-Ray. Deadpool descends back into the pit of
> violence and rage, and what he does to Weasel and Blind Al is
> unspeakable! Plus: more on the mysterious Gerry and Zoe Culloden, and a
> surprise opening that is matched in its intensity only by the shock
> ending! It's a mind-blower that sets up Deadpool year two!
Intaveshtink.
David Francis Smith
"Aye"
Keith R.A. DeCandido
On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 16:50:59 -0400, David Smith <sm...@ils.unc.edu>
wrote:
>> X-Man '97
>> (W) Chris Golden
>
>he written anything for comics before?
Yup. He has a creator-owned comic called THUNDERGOD that Crusade and
Caliber published some issues of; he did the backup story in WOLVERINE
'96; he wrote the Marvel half of the DAREDEVIL/SHI crossover; with Tom
Sniegoski, he wrote several issues of VAMPIRELLA; he's writing an
upcoming SPIDER-MAN UNLIMITED and a BLADE special. I'm probably
forgetting some others....
He'll be doing more novels too -- he's coauthoring the first Gen13
novel with Jeff Marriotte, entitled NETHERWAR, as well as an X-Men
hardcover called CODENAME WOLVERINE, both to be released next fall.
Keith R.A. DeCandido
Editor, Marvel novels, Byron Preiss Multimedia Company, Inc.
kr...@ix.netcom.com
"A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable,
but more useful than a life spent doing nothing."
---George Bernard Shaw
Randy Lander
David Smith <sm...@ils.unc.edu> wrote:
>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997, Rajiv Mote wrote:
>>
>> There are some SPOILERS for some of the December 1997 X-books on
>> American Entertainment's "Mania" website: www.smash.mgz.com
>>
>> The pages are on the server, but aren't yet linked to the index. You've
>> got to be a little clever, but you can still take a look at them. For
>> those of you who don't want to take the time, here are the spoilers they
>> had for the X-Men related comics. Note that solicitations weren't
>> posted for all the books.
>>
>> I'm hoping this text has provided enough SPOILER SPACE to please
>> everyone.
> And I'll leave it in, so it can do the job for which it was intended.
>> Here we go.
>>
>> Ahem.
>>
>> Excalibur #117
>> (W) Ben Raab
> Gack.
>> (A) Melvin Rubi
> Double gack.
>> X-Man '97
>> (W) Chris Golden
> A writer of many comic-based novels, unless I miss my guess. Has
>he written anything for comics before?
He has written comics before, some things over at Caliber and others,
nothing from Marvel or DC, as I recall.
>> Nate Grey encounters three faces from the Age of Apocalypse in this
>> 48-page annual! When the Shi'Ar discover a disturbance that originates
>> from Earth, they discover four beings who shouldn't even exist in this
>> reality: Nate Sugar Man, Dark Beast, and Holocaust! Finding themselves
>> judged guilty of "blasphemy" for merely living in this reality, the four
>> former foes must now band together if they hope to survive!
> I'm not terribly fond of any of these three villains, but the story
>sounds interesting enough, and Mr. Lander, as I recall, gave high marks
>to Mr. Golden's X-Men prose stories.
I did indeed. I can't stand X-Man, but I'll be picking up this annual
because I think Chris Golden is a writer with great potential,
especially on the X-books.
>> Bishop: Xavier's Security Enforcer #2 (of 3)
>> (W) John Ostrander
>> (A) Steve Epting
>> Accused of Murder, Bishop is hunted by the force he once led -- the
>> X.S.E.I.
> Sure to add further confusion as to exactly what this nonsense stands
>for.
I'm an Ostrander fan-boy, but his X.S.E. was unreadable. Combined with
his Punisher and Heroes for Hire runs, I'm beginning to wonder if
Marvel is like Ostrander's Kryptonite. :)
Randy Lander
David Smith <sm...@ils.unc.edu> wrote:
>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997, Rajiv Mote wrote:
>>
>> There are some SPOILERS for some of the December 1997 X-books on
>> American Entertainment's "Mania" website: www.smash.mgz.com
>>
>> The pages are on the server, but aren't yet linked to the index. You've
>> got to be a little clever, but you can still take a look at them. For
>> those of you who don't want to take the time, here are the spoilers they
>> had for the X-Men related comics. Note that solicitations weren't
>> posted for all the books.
>>
>> I'm hoping this text has provided enough SPOILER SPACE to please
>> everyone.
> And I'll leave it in, so it can do the job for which it was intended.
>> Here we go.
>>
>> Ahem.
>>
>> Excalibur #117
>> (W) Ben Raab
> Gack.
>> (A) Melvin Rubi
> Double gack.
>> X-Man '97
>> (W) Chris Golden
> A writer of many comic-based novels, unless I miss my guess. Has
>he written anything for comics before?
He has written comics before, some things over at Caliber and others,
nothing from Marvel or DC, as I recall.
>> Nate Grey encounters three faces from the Age of Apocalypse in this
>> 48-page annual! When the Shi'Ar discover a disturbance that originates
>> from Earth, they discover four beings who shouldn't even exist in this
>> reality: Nate Sugar Man, Dark Beast, and Holocaust! Finding themselves
>> judged guilty of "blasphemy" for merely living in this reality, the four
>> former foes must now band together if they hope to survive!
> I'm not terribly fond of any of these three villains, but the story
>sounds interesting enough, and Mr. Lander, as I recall, gave high marks
>to Mr. Golden's X-Men prose stories.
I did indeed. I can't stand X-Man, but I'll be picking up this annual
because I think Chris Golden is a writer with great potential,
especially on the X-books.
>> Bishop: Xavier's Security Enforcer #2 (of 3)
>> (W) John Ostrander
>> (A) Steve Epting
>> Accused of Murder, Bishop is hunted by the force he once led -- the
>> X.S.E.I.
> Sure to add further confusion as to exactly what this nonsense stands
Johan Lundstrom
Rajiv Mote wrote:
> I'm hoping this text has provided enough SPOILER SPACE to please
> everyone.
> Here we go.
Whee!
> Ahem.
> Excalibur #117
> (W) Ben Raab
> (A) Melvin Rubi
> Beginning a new focus for Excalibur, as Kitty Pryde, Colossus and
> Nightcrawler (the ex-members of the X-Men) jump into the spotlight!
> Forced into a corner by the deadly Shi'ar Sidrian Hunters, Colossus and
> Nightcrawler must tap into their training at the hands of Professor
> Xavier to survive.
I always thought the Sidrian Stalkers were a bit lame. I want Lockheed
in this issue. Is this the lead-in to the three's return to the X-Men?
> X-Man '97
> (W) Chris Golden
> (A) Ramon Bernado
> Nate Grey encounters three faces from the Age of Apocalypse in this
> 48-page annual! When the Shi'Ar discover a disturbance that originates
> from Earth, they discover four beings who shouldn't even exist in this
> reality: Nate Sugar Man, Dark Beast, and Holocaust! Finding themselves
> judged guilty of "blasphemy" for merely living in this reality, the four
> former foes must now band together if they hope to survive!
Let's pray they fail to. And by the way, why aren't the Shi'ar after
Cable, Bishop and other chronologically displaced mutants.
> Kitty Pryde: Agent of S.H.E.I.L.D. #3 (of 3)
> (W) Larry Hama
> (A) Jesus Redondo and Sergio Melia
> Concluding Kitty's all-new limited series! It's the final showdown with
> Ogun as he insinuates himself in the S.H.E.I.L.D. helicarrier computers
> yet again! Will Kitty get her life back from this deadly martial arts
> master, or will she live out the remainder of her days as Ogun's slave?
Kids, this is a rethorical question!
> Bishop: Xavier's Security Enforcer #2 (of 3)
Yuck. I thought we'd lost Bishop for a while.
> Tales of the Age of Apocalypse: Sinister Bloodline
> (W) John Francis Moore
> (A) Steve Epting
> It's a return to the twisted alternate world in an untold tale that
> plants many seeds for the original Age of Apocalypse saga! Years before
> fandom entered the Age of Apocalypse, an alien craft landed in New York
> City and changed the life of Cyclops and Havok, the Summers Brothers,
> forever! Onboard is there missing father, Corsair, but perhaps he is now
> not what he seems to be! Learn why Cyclops turned toward rebellion, why
> Havok choose to ascend to the rank of Prelate and more secrets of their
> heated history!
This should be good. Let's see if December is Sidrian Stalker month!
> X-Men / Wildcats: The Dark Age #1
> (W) Warren Ellis
> (A) Mat Broome and Sean Parsons
> This is it, the final hour of the final day of the final year! It's the
> end of humanity, as well as super-humanity, unless the combined forces
> of the X-men (including Wolverine, Storm and Kitty Pryde) and the
> WildC.A.T.s (including Warblade, Voodoo and Emp) can somehow manage to
> stop the Daemonites and the Sentinels -- and the hellish hybrids they've
> unleashed on a ravaged world! 48 page one shot.
This is a must buy. What happened to Trevor Charest?
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Johan Lundstrom <jo...@algonet.se>
"Let's face it, Charley has turned into a real poopy-head-face-man and
a mondo wiener."
-- Chris Claremont, August 1997
X
Keith R.A. DeCandido
On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:53:37 -0500, Rajiv Mote
<Rajiv...@compuNOSPAMserve.com> wrote:
>There are some SPOILERS for some of the December 1997 X-books on
>American Entertainment's "Mania" website: www.smash.mgz.com
One other X-item due in December: THE JEWELS OF CYTTORAK, a novel by
Dean Wesley Smith. We all know about the ruby of Cyttorak -- presently
lodged in Cain Marko's chest, it turned Charles Xavier's half-brother
into the Juggernaut.
Now, however, comes the revelation that there was another jewel: the
emerald of Cyttorak, which can grant its bearer absolute power -- but
its use causes Juggernaut pain. The X-Men are stuck between a
power-hungry billionaire who is determined to obtain the three
fragments of the emerald and a fighting-mad Juggernaut who doesn't
appreciate feeling pain.
From the author of the Spider-Man novels CARNAGE IN NEW YORK and
GOBLIN'S REVENGE, as well as half a dozen STAR TREK novels, JEWELS
features illustrations by Chuck Wojtkiewicz (THE IMPERIAL GUARD) and a
cover by Vince Evans (the "Doom's Day" trilogy).
Dan McEwen
On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:53:37 -0500, Rajiv Mote
<Rajiv...@compuNOSPAMserve.com> wrote:
>There are some SPOILERS for some of the December 1997 X-books on
>American Entertainment's "Mania" website: www.smash.mgz.com
>
>The pages are on the server, but aren't yet linked to the index. You've
>got to be a little clever, but you can still take a look at them. For
>those of you who don't want to take the time, here are the spoilers they
>had for the X-Men related comics. Note that solicitations weren't
>posted for all the books.
>
>I'm hoping this text has provided enough SPOILER SPACE to please
>everyone.
>
>Here we go.
>
>Ahem.
>
>Excalibur #117
>(W) Ben Raab
>(A) Melvin Rubi
>Beginning a new focus for Excalibur, as Kitty Pryde, Colossus and
>Nightcrawler (the ex-members of the X-Men) jump into the spotlight!
>Forced into a corner by the deadly Shi'ar Sidrian Hunters, Colossus and
>Nightcrawler must tap into their training at the hands of Professor
>Xavier to survive.
Or, alternately, they could call on a resource they already have:
Lockheed. Lockheed had no trouble defeating them before, but why use
what you know works?
>X-Man '97
>(W) Chris Golden
>(A) Ramon Bernado
>Nate Grey encounters three faces from the Age of Apocalypse in this
>48-page annual! When the Shi'Ar discover a disturbance that originates
>from Earth, they discover four beings who shouldn't even exist in this
>reality: Nate Sugar Man, Dark Beast, and Holocaust! Finding themselves
>judged guilty of "blasphemy" for merely living in this reality, the four
>former foes must now band together if they hope to survive!
Is this for real? Blasphemy for living? Please. Somebody needs to
take the Shi'ar down a peg. I don't like them. At all.
>Kitty Pryde: Agent of S.H.E.I.L.D. #3 (of 3)
>(W) Larry Hama
>(A) Jesus Redondo and Sergio Melia
>Concluding Kitty's all-new limited series! It's the final showdown with
>Ogun as he insinuates himself in the S.H.E.I.L.D. helicarrier computers
>yet again! Will Kitty get her life back from this deadly martial arts
>master, or will she live out the remainder of her days as Ogun's slave?
Let's see. Kitty Pryde & Wolverine: Kitty enslaved by Ogun and
freed, recent Excalibur issues (that I haven't read): Kitty Pryde
enslaved by Ogun and freed, KP: AoS: Kitty Pryde enslaved by Ogun and
?? gosh, do ya think, she might be...freed?
>Bishop: Xavier's Security Enforcer #2 (of 3)
>(W) John Ostrander
>(A) Steve Epting
>Accused of Murder, Bishop is hunted by the force he once led -- the
>X.S.E.I. Meanwhile, Rook, the evil telepath that framed Bishop, fans the
>flames in the human / mutant war! But which side will the infamous
>Hellfire Club side with?
How could the "flames" of the human/mutant war possibly be fanned
anymore? Shouldn't this have happened _before_ O:ZT? But, no. Too
late for the summer crossover, after all.
>Longshot
>(W) J. M. Dematteis
>(A) Michael Zulli and Al Williamson
>The luckiest mutant alive returns to the Marvel Universe. Finally, he's
>off Mojoworld and on Earth! And something tells him that he's not in
>Kansas anymore -- well, actually, he is! You see, Longshot has in fact
>landed smack in the middle of America's heartland -- but he's brought a
>malevolent creature from Mojoverse with him! All Longshot wants to do is
>travel to New York City and reunite with his former teammates, but if he
>doesn't take responsibility for what he's unintentionally unleashed,
>then the monster will feast on the souls of the innocent. 48 page one
>shot.
Hmm...someone said this wasn't coming out. Wrong, I guess. Then
again, I heard Nocenti was writing it. Also wrong. Don't think I
don't like DeMatteis, 'cause I do. I just don't know if I think he
can capture Longshot.
>
>Deadpool #13
>(W) Joe Kelly
>(A) Shannon Denton and Nathan Massengill
>This is it: Deadpool vs. T-Ray. Deadpool descends back into the pit of
>violence and rage, and what he does to Weasel and Blind Al is
>unspeakable! Plus: more on the mysterious Gerry and Zoe Culloden, and a
>surprise opening that is matched in its intensity only by the shock
>ending! It's a mind-blower that sets up Deadpool year two!
Well, I hope Wade kicks the crap out of T-Ray. I can't really imagine
him doing anything "unspeakable" that won't turn out to be some kind
of sick, twisted joke, though.
Dan
djmc...@worldnet.att.net
fe...@lsh.org
http://home.att.net/~djmcewen/personal.html
Alan Lewis Sauer
Johan Lundstrom wrote:
: Rajiv Mote wrote:
: > I'm hoping this text has provided enough SPOILER SPACE to please
: > everyone.
:
: > Here we go.
: Whee!
:
: > Ahem.
:
: > Excalibur #117
: > (W) Ben Raab
: > (A) Melvin Rubi
: > Beginning a new focus for Excalibur, as Kitty Pryde, Colossus and
: > Nightcrawler (the ex-members of the X-Men) jump into the spotlight!
: > Forced into a corner by the deadly Shi'ar Sidrian Hunters, Colossus and
: > Nightcrawler must tap into their training at the hands of Professor
: > Xavier to survive.
: I always thought the Sidrian Stalkers were a bit lame. I want Lockheed
: in this issue. Is this the lead-in to the three's return to the X-Men?
God, I hope not. What would be the point?
And anyway, as far as I'm concerned they don't need to disembowel the
team on top of giving them a bad writer. Cruel and unusual.
: > X-Man '97
: > (W) Chris Golden
: > (A) Ramon Bernado
: > Nate Grey encounters three faces from the Age of Apocalypse in this
: > 48-page annual! When the Shi'Ar discover a disturbance that originates
: > from Earth, they discover four beings who shouldn't even exist in this
: > reality: Nate Sugar Man, Dark Beast, and Holocaust! Finding themselves
: > judged guilty of "blasphemy" for merely living in this reality, the four
: > former foes must now band together if they hope to survive!
: Let's pray they fail to. And by the way, why aren't the Shi'ar after
: Cable, Bishop and other chronologically displaced mutants.
The AoA refugees aren't chronologically displaced. They're dimensionally
displaced. Apparently time-travellers don't bother the Shi'ar.
(I didn't realize they were that religious, though. I mean, Sharra
and Ky'thri, sure, all right, but actually hunting people down for
blasphemy?)
: > Kitty Pryde: Agent of S.H.E.I.L.D. #3 (of 3)
: > (W) Larry Hama
: > (A) Jesus Redondo and Sergio Melia
: > Concluding Kitty's all-new limited series! It's the final showdown with
: > Ogun as he insinuates himself in the S.H.E.I.L.D. helicarrier computers
: > yet again! Will Kitty get her life back from this deadly martial arts
: > master, or will she live out the remainder of her days as Ogun's slave?
: Kids, this is a rethorical question!
Though it might be interesting if it weren't. Not quite the remainder
of her days, but a while at least. Raab'd never stand for it, of course.
But it might make for an interesting story.
: > Bishop: Xavier's Security Enforcer #2 (of 3)
: Yuck. I thought we'd lost Bishop for a while.
Well, it was either this or "Even More Further Adventures of Cyclops
and Phoenix" by Ashford and Lau.
: > Tales of the Age of Apocalypse: Sinister Bloodline
: > (W) John Francis Moore
: > (A) Steve Epting
: > It's a return to the twisted alternate world in an untold tale that
: > plants many seeds for the original Age of Apocalypse saga! Years before
: > fandom entered the Age of Apocalypse, an alien craft landed in New York
: > City and changed the life of Cyclops and Havok, the Summers Brothers,
Whenever I see this I get this mental flash of Cyclops with a yo-yo.
: > forever! Onboard is there missing father, Corsair, but perhaps he is now
: > not what he seems to be! Learn why Cyclops turned toward rebellion, why
: > Havok choose to ascend to the rank of Prelate and more secrets of their
: > heated history!
: This should be good. Let's see if December is Sidrian Stalker month!
"All right! You! Yeah, you there! Out of the bushes! Dammit,
Alex, we need more security out there. I got twelve cases of Sidrian
underwear in the mail yesterday."
"Yeah? Used?"
"No."
"I'm finally one up on you then."
"No way."
"Yup. Only six cases, though I think at least two of them had
the runs."
: > X-Men / Wildcats: The Dark Age #1
: > (W) Warren Ellis
: > (A) Mat Broome and Sean Parsons
: > This is it, the final hour of the final day of the final year!
But is it the final second of the final minute?
: > It's the
: > end of humanity, as well as super-humanity, unless the combined forces
: > of the X-men (including Wolverine, Storm and Kitty Pryde) and the
: > WildC.A.T.s (including Warblade, Voodoo and Emp) can somehow manage to
: > stop the Daemonites and the Sentinels -- and the hellish hybrids they've
: > unleashed on a ravaged world! 48 page one shot.
: This is a must buy. What happened to Trevor Charest?
Got stuck on the final panel of the final page, I'd imagine.
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Alan Sauer als...@bingen.cs.csbsju.edu
"To follow knowledge, like a sinking star,/Beyond the utmost bound
of human thought." -- from "Ulysses," by Alfred, Lord Tennyson
Johan Lundstrom
Alan Lewis Sauer wrote:
> Johan Lundstrom wrote:
> : Rajiv Mote wrote:
> : > Excalibur #117
> : I always thought the Sidrian Stalkers were a bit lame. I want Lockheed
> : in this issue. Is this the lead-in to the three's return to the X-Men?
>
> God, I hope not. What would be the point?
>
> And anyway, as far as I'm concerned they don't need to disembowel the
> team on top of giving them a bad writer. Cruel and unusual.
That would kill the comics. Perhaps that would be for the best. RIP.
[...]
> : Let's pray they fail to. And by the way, why aren't the Shi'ar after
> : Cable, Bishop and other chronologically displaced mutants.
>
> The AoA refugees aren't chronologically displaced. They're dimensionally
> displaced. Apparently time-travellers don't bother the Shi'ar.
But at least Bishop is from the future of an alternate timeline. I don't
know about Cable.
> : > Kitty Pryde: Agent of S.H.E.I.L.D. #3 (of 3)
> : > Will Kitty get her life back from this deadly martial arts
> : > master, or will she live out the remainder of her days as Ogun's slave?
>
> : Kids, this is a rethorical question!
>
> Though it might be interesting if it weren't. Not quite the remainder
> of her days, but a while at least. Raab'd never stand for it, of course.
> But it might make for an interesting story.
Been there, done that.
[...]
> : Yuck. I thought we'd lost Bishop for a while.
>
> Well, it was either this or "Even More Further Adventures of Cyclops
> and Phoenix" by Ashford and Lau.
And where would they go? They've been in future. They've been in the
past.
And having a comic with no-one but Cyclops and Phoenix in the present
would
hardly be distinguishable from the normal X-men.
Alan Lewis Sauer
Johan Lundstrom wrote:
: Alan Lewis Sauer wrote:
: > Johan Lundstrom wrote:
: > : Rajiv Mote wrote:
: > : > Excalibur #117
: > : I always thought the Sidrian Stalkers were a bit lame. I want Lockheed
: > : in this issue. Is this the lead-in to the three's return to the X-Men?
: > God, I hope not. What would be the point?
: > And anyway, as far as I'm concerned they don't need to disembowel the
: > team on top of giving them a bad writer. Cruel and unusual.
: That would kill the comics. Perhaps that would be for the best. RIP.
Oh, yeah, and then Marvel will have Alpha Flight, the Hulk, and X-Force
as the only comics not based in New York City. Now _there's_ an idea.
I don't count X-Factor as a comic; it's just too sad.
: [...]
: > : Let's pray they fail to. And by the way, why aren't the Shi'ar after
: > : Cable, Bishop and other chronologically displaced mutants.
: > The AoA refugees aren't chronologically displaced. They're dimensionally
: > displaced. Apparently time-travellers don't bother the Shi'ar.
: But at least Bishop is from the future of an alternate timeline. I don't
: know about Cable.
Has it been declared that his future is alternate? I thought I read
somewhere how they worked it in with Cable's.
: > : > Kitty Pryde: Agent of S.H.E.I.L.D. #3 (of 3)
: > : > Will Kitty get her life back from this deadly martial arts
: > : > master, or will she live out the remainder of her days as Ogun's slave?
: > : Kids, this is a rethorical question!
: > Though it might be interesting if it weren't. Not quite the remainder
: > of her days, but a while at least. Raab'd never stand for it, of course.
: > But it might make for an interesting story.
: Been there, done that.
When? Oh, Dark Phoenix, yeah, sure. Still, Jean Grey ain't no Kitty
Pryde. :)
: [...]
: > : Yuck. I thought we'd lost Bishop for a while.
: > Well, it was either this or "Even More Further Adventures of Cyclops
: > and Phoenix" by Ashford and Lau.
: And where would they go? They've been in future. They've been in the
: past. And having a comic with no-one but Cyclops and Phoenix in the
: present would hardly be distinguishable from the normal X-men.
You didn't quite catch my creatorial credits, did you. :)
Johan Lundstrom
Alan Lewis Sauer wrote:
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> Johan Lundstrom wrote:
> : Alan Lewis Sauer wrote:
> : > Johan Lundstrom wrote:
> : That would kill the comics. Perhaps that would be for the best. RIP.
>
> Oh, yeah, and then Marvel will have Alpha Flight, the Hulk, and X-Force
> as the only comics not based in New York City. Now _there's_ an idea.
Well, an Excalibur, by Raab, without Kitty, Kurt or Colossus isn't the
way to help the situation.
> I don't count X-Factor as a comic; it's just too sad.
I haven't read a single issue for the last two years, but I'll take your
word for it.
> : But at least Bishop is from the future of an alternate timeline. I don't
> : know about Cable.
>
> Has it been declared that his future is alternate? I thought I read
> somewhere how they worked it in with Cable's.
It has to. In his future the X-Men were killed by the X-traitor.
[...]
> : Been there, done that.
>
> When? Oh, Dark Phoenix, yeah, sure. Still, Jean Grey ain't no Kitty
> Pryde. :)
I was thinking of _Kitty Pryde and Wolverine_.
[...]
> : And where would they go? They've been in future. They've been in the
> : past. And having a comic with no-one but Cyclops and Phoenix in the
> : present would hardly be distinguishable from the normal X-men.
>
> You didn't quite catch my creatorial credits, did you. :)
Oops...
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> Here we go.
> Ahem.
> Excalibur #117
> (W) Ben Raab
> (A) Melvin Rubi
> Beginning a new focus for Excalibur, as Kitty Pryde, Colossus and
> Nightcrawler (the ex-members of the X-Men) jump into the spotlight!
> Forced into a corner by the deadly Shi'ar Sidrian Hunters, Colossus and
> Nightcrawler must tap into their training at the hands of Professor
> Xavier to survive.
Since when are the Sidri affiliated with the Shi'ar? They're bounty
hunters, dammit. We don't know what motivates them, but one should assume
they'll work for whoever gives them what they want.
And Kitty and Lockheed had no trouble dealing with them before.
> X-Man '97
> (W) Chris Golden
> (A) Ramon Bernado
> Nate Grey encounters three faces from the Age of Apocalypse in this
> 48-page annual!
Oh no, it's all happening again!
> When the Shi'Ar discover a disturbance that originates
> from Earth,
Why is it always them?
> they discover four beings who shouldn't even exist in this
> reality: Nate Sugar Man, Dark Beast, and Holocaust!
About time someone noticed though.
> Finding themselves
> judged guilty of "blasphemy" for merely living in this reality, the four
> former foes must now band together if they hope to survive!
Original Plot Idea #26 in a set. Collect them all! Re-use them when
nobody's looking!
> Kitty Pryde: Agent of S.H.E.I.L.D. #3 (of 3)
> (W) Larry Hama
> (A) Jesus Redondo and Sergio Melia
> Concluding Kitty's all-new limited series! It's the final showdown with
> Ogun as he insinuates himself in the S.H.E.I.L.D. helicarrier computers
> yet again! Will Kitty get her life back from this deadly martial arts
> master, or will she live out the remainder of her days as Ogun's slave?
No. Posession of a _computer_?!? Give. Me. A. Break.
> Longshot
> (W) J. M. Dematteis
> (A) Michael Zulli and Al Williamson
> The luckiest mutant
...who isn't a mutant...
> alive returns to the Marvel Universe.
"I'm not dead!"
> Generation X / Gen 13
What? ANOTHER one???
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Alan Lewis Sauer
Johan Lundstrom wrote:
: Alan Lewis Sauer wrote:
: > Johan Lundstrom wrote:
: > : > Johan Lundstrom wrote:
: > : That would kill the comics. Perhaps that would be for the best. RIP.
: > Oh, yeah, and then Marvel will have Alpha Flight, the Hulk, and X-Force
: > as the only comics not based in New York City. Now _there's_ an idea.
: Well, an Excalibur, by Raab, without Kitty, Kurt or Colossus isn't the
: way to help the situation.
I know. So we don't move Kitty, Kurt, and Colossus out of Excalibur
and (in a perfect world) we get rid of Raab. Situation nonexistent. :)
: > I don't count X-Factor as a comic; it's just too sad.
: I haven't read a single issue for the last two years, but I'll take your
: word for it.
Well, it's still Mackie.
: > : But at least Bishop is from the future of an alternate timeline. I don't
: > : know about Cable.
: > Has it been declared that his future is alternate? I thought I read
: > somewhere how they worked it in with Cable's.
: It has to. In his future the X-Men were killed by the X-traitor.
What about Cable's?
: [...]
: > : Been there, done that.
: > When? Oh, Dark Phoenix, yeah, sure. Still, Jean Grey ain't no Kitty
: > Pryde. :)
: I was thinking of _Kitty Pryde and Wolverine_.
Right, but that's a LS. I'm talking mainstream book here.
: [...]
: > : And where would they go? They've been in future. They've been in the
: > : past. And having a comic with no-one but Cyclops and Phoenix in the
: > : present would hardly be distinguishable from the normal X-men.
: > You didn't quite catch my creatorial credits, did you. :)
: Oops...
Thought not. :)
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> they'll work for whoever gives them what they want.
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> And Kitty and Lockheed had no trouble dealing with them before.
The Sidri are lame.
> > X-Man '97
> > (W) Chris Golden
> > (A) Ramon Bernado
> > Nate Grey encounters three faces from the Age of Apocalypse in this
> > 48-page annual!
>
> Oh no, it's all happening again!
And it's not likely to be the last time.
> > When the Shi'Ar discover a disturbance that originates
> > from Earth,
>
> Why is it always them?
They've probably realized that everything of importance in the universe
comes from Earth. I'd monitor closely, if I were them.
> > they discover four beings who shouldn't even exist in this
> > reality: Nate Sugar Man, Dark Beast, and Holocaust!
>
> About time someone noticed though.
LOL!
You're right, they shouldn't exist.
> > Finding themselves
> > judged guilty of "blasphemy" for merely living in this reality, the four
> > former foes must now band together if they hope to survive!
>
> Original Plot Idea #26 in a set. Collect them all! Re-use them when
> nobody's looking!
At least the Shi'ar are doing the right thing, trying to wipe them out
of
existance.
> > Kitty Pryde: Agent of S.H.E.I.L.D. #3 (of 3)
> > (W) Larry Hama
> > (A) Jesus Redondo and Sergio Melia
> > Concluding Kitty's all-new limited series! It's the final showdown with
> > Ogun as he insinuates himself in the S.H.E.I.L.D. helicarrier computers
> > yet again! Will Kitty get her life back from this deadly martial arts
> > master, or will she live out the remainder of her days as Ogun's slave?
>
> No. Posession of a _computer_?!? Give. Me. A. Break.
Ogun has reached quite a high level of lameness, right?
> > Generation X / Gen 13
>
> What? ANOTHER one???
No, it's a whole new concept. The last one was Gen13/GenX. :)
Randy Lander
David Smith <sm...@ils.unc.edu> wrote:
>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997, Rajiv Mote wrote:
>>
>> There are some SPOILERS for some of the December 1997 X-books on
>> American Entertainment's "Mania" website: www.smash.mgz.com
>>
>> The pages are on the server, but aren't yet linked to the index. You've
>> got to be a little clever, but you can still take a look at them. For
>> those of you who don't want to take the time, here are the spoilers they
>> had for the X-Men related comics. Note that solicitations weren't
>> posted for all the books.
>>
>> I'm hoping this text has provided enough SPOILER SPACE to please
>> everyone.
> And I'll leave it in, so it can do the job for which it was intended.
>> Here we go.
>>
>> Ahem.
>>
>> Excalibur #117
>> (W) Ben Raab
> Gack.
>> (A) Melvin Rubi
> Double gack.
>> X-Man '97
>> (W) Chris Golden
> A writer of many comic-based novels, unless I miss my guess. Has
>he written anything for comics before?
He has written comics before, some things over at Caliber and others,
nothing from Marvel or DC, as I recall.
>> Nate Grey encounters three faces from the Age of Apocalypse in this
>> 48-page annual! When the Shi'Ar discover a disturbance that originates
>> from Earth, they discover four beings who shouldn't even exist in this
>> reality: Nate Sugar Man, Dark Beast, and Holocaust! Finding themselves
>> judged guilty of "blasphemy" for merely living in this reality, the four
>> former foes must now band together if they hope to survive!
> I'm not terribly fond of any of these three villains, but the story
>sounds interesting enough, and Mr. Lander, as I recall, gave high marks
>to Mr. Golden's X-Men prose stories.
I did indeed. I can't stand X-Man, but I'll be picking up this annual
because I think Chris Golden is a writer with great potential,
especially on the X-books.
>> Bishop: Xavier's Security Enforcer #2 (of 3)
>> (W) John Ostrander
>> (A) Steve Epting
>> Accused of Murder, Bishop is hunted by the force he once led -- the
>> X.S.E.I.
> Sure to add further confusion as to exactly what this nonsense stands
David R. Henry
Johan Lundstrom writes:
>The Sidri are lame.
The Sidri are neat-looking, have a great color scheme, and
can't spend time soliloquizing about their morality. A villain
who can't speak often does wonders for the current X-titles
standing -- just think how much more enjoyable Bastion or
Creed would have been if they never opened their mouths! Besides,
the Sidri introduced us to Lockheed, for which we can allow them
a free return with no grudges held.
>They've probably realized that everything of importance in the universe
>comes from Earth. I'd monitor closely, if I were them.
Actually, it's been established for at least a few years that
most of the alien races that count realize that Earth is a Very
Important planet in the scheme of things. Those alien races
particularly on the ball know that it's because Earth is the
current location of the Cosmic Axis.
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Soleil Lapierre
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> > hunters, dammit. We don't know what motivates them, but one should assume
> > they'll work for whoever gives them what they want.
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> > And Kitty and Lockheed had no trouble dealing with them before.
I forgot to mention that Cyke and Corsair took them out as well. That's
even more degrading.
> The Sidri are lame.
Like hell. I think they're one of a small handful of really cool aliens
that have appeared in the MU. Unfortunately they tend to attack the
X-Men, which means they always lose.
> > > When the Shi'Ar discover a disturbance that originates
> > > from Earth,
> >
> > Why is it always them?
> They've probably realized that everything of importance in the universe
> comes from Earth. I'd monitor closely, if I were them.
True enough, but there's lots of other aliens out there smart enough to
realize that everything important happens on Earth.
> > No. Posession of a _computer_?!? Give. Me. A. Break.
> Ogun has reached quite a high level of lameness, right?
He's way up there, that's for sure.
> > > Generation X / Gen 13
> > What? ANOTHER one???
> No, it's a whole new concept. The last one was Gen13/GenX. :)
Ahh, I see. Radically different.
But at least I don't have to buy this one. It doesn't have Art Adams.
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Johan Lundstrom
Soleil Lapierre wrote:
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> Johan Lundstrom hit these random keys:
> > Soleil Lapierre wrote:
> > > > Excalibur #117
> > > And Kitty and Lockheed had no trouble dealing with them before.
>
> I forgot to mention that Cyke and Corsair took them out as well. That's
> even more degrading.
And in Uncanny #351: The duel for leadership of the X-Men - between
Cyclops and Lockheed. My bets are on the dragon.
> > The Sidri are lame.
>
> Like hell. I think they're one of a small handful of really cool aliens
> that have appeared in the MU. Unfortunately they tend to attack the
> X-Men, which means they always lose.
If you want _really_ cool, go for the Acanti.
> True enough, but there's lots of other aliens out there smart enough to
> realize that everything important happens on Earth.
Hmm? Not the bloody idiots from Uncanny #245, that's for sure.
> > Ogun has reached quite a high level of lameness, right?
>
> He's way up there, that's for sure.
Which is a shame. He was quite coolish when introduced.
Johan Lundstrom
David R. Henry wrote:
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> Johan Lundstrom writes:
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> >The Sidri are lame.
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> The Sidri are neat-looking, have a great color scheme, and
> can't spend time soliloquizing about their morality. A villain
> who can't speak often does wonders for the current X-titles
I guess you're right on this one.
> standing -- just think how much more enjoyable Bastion or
> Creed would have been if they never opened their mouths! Besides,
> the Sidri introduced us to Lockheed, for which we can allow them
> a free return with no grudges held.
Lockheed was introduced in the first Brood storyline. But the Sidri
story showed he survived.
Anyone who's been beaten by Lockheed has _some_ claim on fame, I'll
concede.
> >They've probably realized that everything of importance in the universe
> >comes from Earth. I'd monitor closely, if I were them.
>
> Actually, it's been established for at least a few years that
> most of the alien races that count realize that Earth is a Very
> Important planet in the scheme of things. Those alien races
> particularly on the ball know that it's because Earth is the
> current location of the Cosmic Axis.
The _what_?
Soleil Lapierre
Johan Lundstrom hit these random keys:
> Soleil Lapierre wrote:
> > I forgot to mention that Cyke and Corsair took them out as well. That's
> > even more degrading.
> And in Uncanny #351: The duel for leadership of the X-Men - between
> Cyclops and Lockheed. My bets are on the dragon.
LOL! Definitely. Do you want your Cyclops medium rare or well-done?
> > > The Sidri are lame.
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> > Like hell. I think they're one of a small handful of really cool aliens
> > that have appeared in the MU. Unfortunately they tend to attack the
> > X-Men, which means they always lose.
> If you want _really_ cool, go for the Acanti.
They're another one. Also cool are the Brood, Uncreated and the Technarchy,
and a number of the species in the Technet and the Imperial Guard.
And Lockheed's species, of course.
I kinda like Hepzibah too, but she's from yet another all-too-common
humanoid species.
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David R. Henry
Johan Lundstrom writes:
>> Actually, it's been established for at least a few years that
>> most of the alien races that count realize that Earth is a Very
>> Important planet in the scheme of things. Those alien races
>> particularly on the ball know that it's because Earth is the
>> current location of the Cosmic Axis.
>
>The _what_?
The Cosmic Axis. What, aren't you an old-time Dr. Strange reader? :)
The Marvel Multiverse is set up, for unknown reasons, so that
the mystic and probabilistic possibilities, at any one time, are
greatest at one locale in the universe. That place is known as
the Cosmic Axis. Or, perhaps the place becomes known as the
Cosmic Axis because it's currently the most happenin' place in
the Multiverse. Tough to tell with causal events.
In any case, the reason "everything" seems to happen on Earth,
or deal with Earth, is because it's currently the center of the
Axis. Earth's time will eventually pass (just like every other
planet's which has been the Axis), and some other random race
and planet will get the joy of being the center of all important
multiversal happenings for a while.
Most of the information on the Axis is from Dr. Strange.
There was even a convention of Sorceror Supremes (well, Supreme
within their own race, not of the whole Multiverse -- that's
the Doc, of course) on Earth in one issue from all the previous
races that had been the focus for the Cosmic Axis. They were
bitching about Dormammu, if I remember correctly. Just like
acne, that Dormammu; everyone complains about him, but nobody
does anything to _do_ something about him. Well, except Clea,
but she has personal reasons.
Dan McEwen
On Sun, 21 Sep 1997 08:47:52 -0700, Johan Lundstrom <jo...@algonet.se>
wrote:
>David R. Henry wrote:
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>> Actually, it's been established for at least a few years that
>> most of the alien races that count realize that Earth is a Very
>> Important planet in the scheme of things. Those alien races
>> particularly on the ball know that it's because Earth is the
>> current location of the Cosmic Axis.
>
>The _what_?
Basically, it's Marvel's way of saying the Earth is Important in the
Scheme Of Things. Probably this was from the Captain Marvel series.
I think Eon said Earth was on the Cosmic Axis.
Paul O'Brien
Johan Lundstrom <jo...@algonet.se> writes:
>> particularly on the ball know that it's because Earth is the
>> current location of the Cosmic Axis.
>The _what_?
The Cosmic Axis is an idea which a writer - Mark Gruenwald, probably -
came up with to explain the amazing number of cosmic events and
alien invasions involving Earth. Basically, Earth lies on the
equivalent of a cosmic ley line, which naturally explains
everything...
Paul O'Brien
The Onslaught Index - http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~prob/index/
And so... The end is near...
Johan Lundstrom
Soleil Lapierre wrote:
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> > And in Uncanny #351: The duel for leadership of the X-Men - between
> > Cyclops and Lockheed. My bets are on the dragon.
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> LOL! Definitely. Do you want your Cyclops medium rare or well-done?
So rare that there isn't even one of him. :)
> > If you want _really_ cool, go for the Acanti.
>
> They're another one. Also cool are the Brood, Uncreated and the Technarchy,
> and a number of the species in the Technet and the Imperial Guard.
And Ch'od.
The Brood ripped off Alien a bit too much for my taste. The uncreated
were quite cool.
Alan Moore's Executive Action (in Captain Britain) was one of the
coolest collection of aliens I've seen. Zeitgeist, Legion, Lady Burning
Fish...
Dr. Manhattan borrowed a lot from Cobweb.
> And Lockheed's species, of course.
Except when depicted by Lobdell.
> I kinda like Hepzibah too, but she's from yet another all-too-common
> humanoid species.
Has there ever been an explanation of the prevalent humanoid-ism
(humanoidity? Whatever) in the MU? I wouldn't be the least surpised if
it was the Celestials mucking around.
Johan Lundstrom
Gee. Learning something new every day. :)
David R. Henry wrote:
>
> Johan Lundstrom writes:
> >The _what_?
>
> The Cosmic Axis. What, aren't you an old-time Dr. Strange reader? :)
>
> The Marvel Multiverse is set up, for unknown reasons, so that
> the mystic and probabilistic possibilities, at any one time, are
> greatest at one locale in the universe. That place is known as
> the Cosmic Axis. Or, perhaps the place becomes known as the
> Cosmic Axis because it's currently the most happenin' place in
> the Multiverse. Tough to tell with causal events.
>
> In any case, the reason "everything" seems to happen on Earth,
> or deal with Earth, is because it's currently the center of the
> Axis. Earth's time will eventually pass (just like every other
> planet's which has been the Axis), and some other random race
> and planet will get the joy of being the center of all important
> multiversal happenings for a while.
>
> Most of the information on the Axis is from Dr. Strange.
> There was even a convention of Sorceror Supremes (well, Supreme
> within their own race, not of the whole Multiverse -- that's
> the Doc, of course) on Earth in one issue from all the previous
> races that had been the focus for the Cosmic Axis. They were
> bitching about Dormammu, if I remember correctly. Just like
> acne, that Dormammu; everyone complains about him, but nobody
> does anything to _do_ something about him. Well, except Clea,
> but she has personal reasons.
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Dan McEwen wrote:
>
> >Bishop: Xavier's Security Enforcer #2 (of 3)
> >(W) John Ostrander
> >(A) Steve Epting
> >Accused of Murder, Bishop is hunted by the force he once led -- the
> >flames in the human / mutant war! But which side will the infamous
> >Hellfire Club side with?
>
> How could the "flames" of the human/mutant war possibly be fanned
> anymore? Shouldn't this have happened _before_ O:ZT? But, no. Too
> late for the summer crossover, after all.
This story takes place in the future from which Bishop came. It is
about Bishop's days with the X.S.E.
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> > LOL! Definitely. Do you want your Cyclops medium rare or well-done?
> So rare that there isn't even one of him. :)
Sounds good to me.
Besides, he probably doesn't taste good.
> > > If you want _really_ cool, go for the Acanti.
> >
> > They're another one. Also cool are the Brood, Uncreated and the Technarchy,
> > and a number of the species in the Technet and the Imperial Guard.
> And Ch'od.
He's OK. I like his companion Cr+eee more.
And how could I forget Sikorsky...
> The Brood ripped off Alien a bit too much for my taste. The uncreated
> were quite cool.
I think the Aliens are one of the most-ripped-off designs of all time,
but the Brood are one of the better permutations.
> Alan Moore's Executive Action (in Captain Britain) was one of the
> coolest collection of aliens I've seen. Zeitgeist, Legion, Lady Burning
> Fish...
Never encountered them. :(
> > And Lockheed's species, of course.
> Except when depicted by Lobdell.
Naturally. And Raab. And, I hate to say it, Ellis too.
> > I kinda like Hepzibah too, but she's from yet another all-too-common
> > humanoid species.
> Has there ever been an explanation of the prevalent humanoid-ism
> (humanoidity? Whatever) in the MU? I wouldn't be the least surpised if
> it was the Celestials mucking around.
I'm sure there has, and I'm sure it's just as lame as the Star Trek
explanation.
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Johan Lundstrom
Soleil Lapierre wrote:
>
> Johan Lundstrom hit these random keys:
> > And Ch'od.
>
> He's OK. I like his companion Cr+eee more.
>
> And how could I forget Sikorsky...
Heh. One of the few entities of the universe to boss around Wolverine
and live.
> > The Brood ripped off Alien a bit too much for my taste. The uncreated
> > were quite cool.
>
> I think the Aliens are one of the most-ripped-off designs of all time,
> but the Brood are one of the better permutations.
That I can agree with.
> > Alan Moore's Executive Action (in Captain Britain) was one of the
> > coolest collection of aliens I've seen. Zeitgeist, Legion, Lady Burning
> > Fish...
>
> Never encountered them. :(
Lady Burning Fish looked like a miniature flying saucer with a strange
superstructure, firing energy blasts and talking only in haiku. Pretty
funny...
> > > And Lockheed's species, of course.
>
> > Except when depicted by Lobdell.
>
> Naturally. And Raab. And, I hate to say it, Ellis too.
It's surprising that Ellis' Excalibur, which overall was quite good, had
such a bad Lockheed. I really didn't like that.
> > Has there ever been an explanation of the prevalent humanoid-ism
> > (humanoidity? Whatever) in the MU? I wouldn't be the least surpised if
> > it was the Celestials mucking around.
>
> I'm sure there has, and I'm sure it's just as lame as the Star Trek
> explanation.
There is one? Explain!
Soleil Lapierre
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> > And how could I forget Sikorsky...
> Heh. One of the few entities of the universe to boss around Wolverine
> and live.
Where was this? That's a scene I must see. :)
> > Never encountered them. :(
> Lady Burning Fish looked like a miniature flying saucer with a strange
> superstructure, firing energy blasts and talking only in haiku. Pretty
> funny...
Kewl.
> > > > And Lockheed's species, of course.
> > > Except when depicted by Lobdell.
> > Naturally. And Raab. And, I hate to say it, Ellis too.
> It's surprising that Ellis' Excalibur, which overall was quite good, had
> such a bad Lockheed. I really didn't like that.
Then there's the matter of certain swords, but we've already been through
all that.
> > > Has there ever been an explanation of the prevalent humanoid-ism
> > > (humanoidity? Whatever) in the MU? I wouldn't be the least surpised if
> > > it was the Celestials mucking around.
> > I'm sure there has, and I'm sure it's just as lame as the Star Trek
> > explanation.
> There is one? Explain!
The Trek explanation is precursors. The first intelligent species to
evolve in this galaxy was humanoid. They developed generic superscience
and then got lonely because there was nobody else to play with. So before
they vanished for mysterious reasons they seeded livable planets around the
galaxy with organic compounds specifically designed to evolve into
humanoid life. And the genetic codes of those lifeforms - ie Humans,
Vulcans, Klingfrees, Hardassians and so on - could be fitted together in
such a way as to produce a recorded message from that first race.
As for the MU, I don't know if there is an explanation or not. I would
assume something similar.
Aardy R. DeVarque
dhe...@plains.NoDak.edu (David R. Henry) wrote:
>Johan Lundstrom writes:
>
>>The Sidri are lame.
>
>The Sidri are neat-looking, have a great color scheme, and
>can't spend time soliloquizing about their morality.
Wasn't that them *verbally* haranguing Lockheed (who was also speaking
fluently back) in last month's issue of Excalibur?
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Johan Lundstrom
> >The Sidri are neat-looking, have a great color scheme, and
> >can't spend time soliloquizing about their morality.
>
> Wasn't that them *verbally* haranguing Lockheed (who was also speaking
> fluently back) in last month's issue of Excalibur?
<ack!>
Say it isn't so!
Soleil Lapierre
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Wow, Aardy's back too! Just like old times.
> dhe...@plains.NoDak.edu (David R. Henry) wrote:
> >Johan Lundstrom writes:
> >
> >>The Sidri are lame.
> >
> >The Sidri are neat-looking, have a great color scheme, and
> >can't spend time soliloquizing about their morality.
> Wasn't that them *verbally* haranguing Lockheed (who was also speaking
> fluently back) in last month's issue of Excalibur?
Nah. Can't be. Neither the Sidri nor Lockheed can speak.
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Soleil Lapierre wrote:
> Aardy R. DeVarque hit these random keys:
>
> Wow, Aardy's back too! Just like old times.
>
> > dhe...@plains.NoDak.edu (David R. Henry) wrote:
> > >Johan Lundstrom writes:
> > >
> > >>The Sidri are lame.
> > >
> > >The Sidri are neat-looking, have a great color scheme, and
> > >can't spend time soliloquizing about their morality.
>
> > Wasn't that them *verbally* haranguing Lockheed (who was also speaking
> > fluently back) in last month's issue of Excalibur?
>
> Nah. Can't be. Neither the Sidri nor Lockheed can speak.
>
>
When was it that Lockheed seemed to suddenly gain the ability to speak
anyway? I remember in the old days, all he could say was something like
"feh?" Now he's talkin' right and left and everything's goin' insane and
somebody stop it! AAAAAHHHHH!!!
de Designers
Soleil Lapierre wrote:
> Aardy R. DeVarque hit these random keys:
> > fluently back) in last month's issue of Excalibur?
> Nah. Can't be. Neither the Sidri nor Lockheed can speak.
They can speak, in their own language, but I think it was Lockheed's
race who was messing with him. They had the same eyes, and the issue
seemed to bring up to mind Lockheed's trial for some reason.
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Lowell Silverstein hit these random keys:
> Soleil Lapierre wrote:
> > > Wasn't that them *verbally* haranguing Lockheed (who was also speaking
> > > fluently back) in last month's issue of Excalibur?
> >
> > Nah. Can't be. Neither the Sidri nor Lockheed can speak.
> When was it that Lockheed seemed to suddenly gain the ability to speak
> anyway? I remember in the old days, all he could say was something like
> "feh?" Now he's talkin' right and left and everything's goin' insane and
> somebody stop it! AAAAAHHHHH!!!
Well you see, way back when, not long after Excalibur was a good series,
a fella named Lobdell wrote a Lockheed story where our favorite dragon
had to talk himself out of being lynched by his species. It wan't too
bad, aside from the painful rhyming, because we could assume they were
talking dragon talk. The business about astral starships and interstellar
journeys in the astral plane is another matter.
Then, a little later on, someone figured he could utter short sentences
in English. I don't recall for sure who this misguided writer was, but I
have a nagging feeling it was Ellis. Lockheed decided he didn't like
Wisdom boinking Kitty (rightly so, rightly so) and decided to illustrate
the point by doing Lockheedish things like swiping Pete's clothes. And
unLockheedish things like saying "I 'ate yoo" to Pete when nobody else
was watching. This problem plagues us to this day, apparently.
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Soleil Lapierre
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> Soleil Lapierre wrote:
> > Aardy R. DeVarque hit these random keys:
> > > fluently back) in last month's issue of Excalibur?
> > Nah. Can't be. Neither the Sidri nor Lockheed can speak.
> They can speak, in their own language, but I think it was Lockheed's
> race who was messing with him. They had the same eyes, and the issue
> seemed to bring up to mind Lockheed's trial for some reason.
Dammit, I have to find #113 and #114. This is really frustrating. I want
to be disillusioned by Raab some more! ;)
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Johan Lundstrom
Soleil Lapierre wrote:
> Johan Lundstrom hit these random keys:
> > Soleil Lapierre wrote:
> > > And how could I forget Sikorsky...
>
> > Heh. One of the few entities of the universe to boss around Wolverine
> > and live.
>
> Where was this? That's a scene I must see. :)
Some time during the first brood story, Sikorsky ushers a protesting
Wolverine out of an operating room.
> > Lady Burning Fish looked like a miniature flying saucer with a strange
> > superstructure, firing energy blasts and talking only in haiku. Pretty
> > funny...
>
> Kewl.
Yah.
> > It's surprising that Ellis' Excalibur, which overall was quite good, had
> > such a bad Lockheed. I really didn't like that.
>
> Then there's the matter of certain swords, but we've already been through
> all that.
Well, that wasn't really his fault, as he explained some weeks ago.
Blame it Lobdell (along with everything else bad about Excalibur before
Raab's time.)
> The Trek explanation is precursors. The first intelligent species to
> evolve in this galaxy was humanoid. They developed generic superscience
> and then got lonely because there was nobody else to play with. So before
> they vanished for mysterious reasons they seeded livable planets around the
> galaxy with organic compounds specifically designed to evolve into
> humanoid life. And the genetic codes of those lifeforms - ie Humans,
> Vulcans, Klingfrees, Hardassians and so on - could be fitted together in
> such a way as to produce a recorded message from that first race.
Sure sounds like the Celestials.
> As for the MU, I don't know if there is an explanation or not. I would
> assume something similar.
In that case, I'd rather live without one.
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"Let's face it, Charley has turned into a real poopy-head-face-man and
a mondo wiener."
-- Chris Claremont, August 1997
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Lowell Silverstein
Soleil Lapierre wrote:
> Lowell Silverstein hit these random keys:
>
> > Soleil Lapierre wrote:
>
> > > > Wasn't that them *verbally* haranguing Lockheed (who was also speaking
> > > > fluently back) in last month's issue of Excalibur?
> > >
> > > Nah. Can't be. Neither the Sidri nor Lockheed can speak.
>
> > When was it that Lockheed seemed to suddenly gain the ability to speak
> > anyway? I remember in the old days, all he could say was something like
> > "feh?" Now he's talkin' right and left and everything's goin' insane and
> > somebody stop it! AAAAAHHHHH!!!
>
> Well you see, way back when, not long after Excalibur was a good series,
> a fella named Lobdell wrote a Lockheed story where our favorite dragon
> had to talk himself out of being lynched by his species. It wan't too
> bad, aside from the painful rhyming, because we could assume they were
> talking dragon talk. The business about astral starships and interstellar
> journeys in the astral plane is another matter.
>
> Then, a little later on, someone figured he could utter short sentences
> in English. I don't recall for sure who this misguided writer was, but I
> have a nagging feeling it was Ellis. Lockheed decided he didn't like
> Wisdom boinking Kitty (rightly so, rightly so) and decided to illustrate
> the point by doing Lockheedish things like swiping Pete's clothes. And
> unLockheedish things like saying "I 'ate yoo" to Pete when nobody else
> was watching. This problem plagues us to this day, apparently.
>
>
Oh, yeah, now I remember. I wonder why Lockheed would choose Wisdom, who he
"'ates" to be the first human to hear him speak. It would be easy to understand
if Raab was writing it, but I think Ellis was writing at the time.
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Soleil Lapierre
Johan Lundstrom hit these random keys:
> Soleil Lapierre wrote:
> > > It's surprising that Ellis' Excalibur, which overall was quite good, had
> > > such a bad Lockheed. I really didn't like that.
> >
> > Then there's the matter of certain swords, but we've already been through
> > all that.
> Well, that wasn't really his fault, as he explained some weeks ago.
> Blame it Lobdell (along with everything else bad about Excalibur before
> Raab's time.)
Hey, I wonder if there's some way we can blame Raab's work on Lobdell
too? I mean, Raab screws up but a lot of the problem with his Excalibur
is previously mangled continuity.
> > The Trek explanation is precursors. The first intelligent species to
> > evolve in this galaxy was humanoid. They developed generic superscience
> > and then got lonely because there was nobody else to play with. So before
> Sure sounds like the Celestials.
Yep.
> > As for the MU, I don't know if there is an explanation or not. I would
> > assume something similar.
> In that case, I'd rather live without one.
Me too. It's nice to leave a few big mysteries lying around.
Mayhem, Inc.
In article <60q634$3...@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca>, slap...@acs2.acs.ucalgary.ca (Soleil Lapierre) writes:
> Aardy R. DeVarque hit these random keys:
>
>
>> dhe...@plains.NoDak.edu (David R. Henry) wrote:
>> >Johan Lundstrom writes:
>> >
>> >>The Sidri are lame.
>> >
>> >The Sidri are neat-looking, have a great color scheme, and
>> >can't spend time soliloquizing about their morality.
>
>> fluently back) in last month's issue of Excalibur?
>
> Nah. Can't be. Neither the Sidri nor Lockheed can speak.
>
Normally I'd agree with you, but a few things have been retconned
in recent years...
Paul
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Aardy R. DeVarque
In article <34311D47...@usc.edu>, de Designers <jame...@usc.edu>
wrote:
> Soleil Lapierre wrote:
> > Aardy R. DeVarque hit these random keys:
> > > Wasn't that them *verbally* haranguing Lockheed (who was also speaking
> > > fluently back) in last month's issue of Excalibur?
> > Nah. Can't be. Neither the Sidri nor Lockheed can speak.
>
> They can speak, in their own language, but I think it was Lockheed's
> race who was messing with him. They had the same eyes, and the issue
> seemed to bring up to mind Lockheed's trial for some reason.
Spoilers, IIRC...
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Be that as it may, but I seem to remember the solicitations for November
or December featuring a nest of Sidri under Excalibur's base. Lockheed
was under Excalibur's base in the issue referenced above. Remember what
Lockheed alone did to the Sidri last time, not think how long a nest of
Sidri'd actually last if there were currently more than one "Lockheed"
around. 2+2+2=?
Aardy R. DeVarque
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Soleil Lapierre
Mayhem, Inc. hit these random keys:
> In article <60q634$3...@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca>, slap...@acs2.acs.ucalgary.ca (Soleil Lapierre) writes:
> >> Wasn't that them *verbally* haranguing Lockheed (who was also speaking
> >> fluently back) in last month's issue of Excalibur?
> >
> > Nah. Can't be. Neither the Sidri nor Lockheed can speak.
> Normally I'd agree with you, but a few things have been retconned
> in recent years...
Yeah. 'Tis a sad day when passing ruffians can retcon at will to old
plotlines...
Now that I've read Excal #113 and #114, let me say there's no way those
can be Sidri hassling Lockheed. Not unless there's a seriously deviant
offshoot of the species. Those things have two eyes and hands like
Lockheed's, not to mention they're much smaller than Sidri.
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> Spoilers, IIRC...
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> Be that as it may, but I seem to remember the solicitations for November
> or December featuring a nest of Sidri under Excalibur's base. Lockheed
> was under Excalibur's base in the issue referenced above. Remember what
> Lockheed alone did to the Sidri last time, not think how long a nest of
> Sidri'd actually last if there were currently more than one "Lockheed"
> around. 2+2+2=?
I heard that too somewhere. I was assuming it was farther in the future,
like #116 or #120 or so.
If those are Sidri, I'm going to have a violent gastronomic reaction.
Raab had bloody well better explain how they came to be that shape and size.
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Elizabeth Celeste
On 21 Sep 1997, Soleil Lapierre wrote:
> Johan Lundstrom hit these random keys:
> > Soleil Lapierre wrote:
> > And in Uncanny #351: The duel for leadership of the X-Men - between
> > Cyclops and Lockheed. My bets are on the dragon.
>
> LOL! Definitely. Do you want your Cyclops medium rare or well-done?
This might even be the final spark to get them to get rid of the blue and
yellow uniforms. Can't have team color's that clash with the leaders skin
tone you know. :)
Or this could just be the start of the "No Pants" X-Men.
Elizabeth, now gainfully employed and behind on her posting.
jub...@grove.ufl.edu Elizabeth Celeste etwi...@helios.acomp.usf.edu
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Soleil Lapierre
Elizabeth Celeste hit these random keys:
> On 21 Sep 1997, Soleil Lapierre wrote:
> > LOL! Definitely. Do you want your Cyclops medium rare or well-done?
> This might even be the final spark to get them to get rid of the blue and
> yellow uniforms. Can't have team color's that clash with the leaders skin
> tone you know. :)
That would mean Cannonball would have to ditch his too, since he's
wearing Cyke's outfit these days. :)
> Or this could just be the start of the "No Pants" X-Men.
LOL! That would be highly amusing.
> Elizabeth, now gainfully employed and behind on her posting.
Say it ain't so!
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