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DonFro...@webtv.net

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Apr 13, 2009, 12:38:21 PM4/13/09
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A decent enough story I guess but it furthers one of the main things I
consider to be wrong with comic books today. At least in a believable
sense. How can outsiders take comic books seriously when Batman
refuses to kill the Joker, or even to just let him die at the hands of
someone else? It's really hard not to see Batman of complicity in all
future crimes the Joker commits every time he saves the Joker.

--
'I'm constantly amazed at your
ability to live.'
'Better than dying'
Paraphrased from
Alan Shore and
Denny Crane
by DONNIE VEE!!!


alfr...@gmail.com

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Apr 13, 2009, 2:29:36 PM4/13/09
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Maybe because he really, honestly believes in the value of life?
After all, there are many people opposed to the death penalty, even
for horrible mass murderers. Apparently they take that "thou shalt
not kill" thing literally. :)

DonFro...@webtv.net

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Apr 14, 2009, 8:26:32 AM4/14/09
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Maybe because he really, honestly believes in the value of life? After
all, there are many people opposed to the death penalty, even for
horrible mass murderers. Apparently they take that "thou shalt not kill"
thing literally. :)>>

Please note this " It's really hard not to see Batman as being guilty


of complicity in all future crimes the Joker commits every time  he

saves the Joker.", amended so it makes more sense. <G>

M.O.R

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Apr 14, 2009, 10:21:35 PM4/14/09
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On Apr 14, 1:26 pm, DonFromBa...@webtv.net wrote:
> <alfrod...@gmail.com

There is the added question as to whether or not the Joker is capable
of knowing right from wrong, or even feeling certain emotions.
While the Joker is a menace and a threat, he is also criminally
insane, though there are questions as to whether or not he himself is
putting on an act in terms of avoiding criminal prosecution. No court
system can sentence him to death, as insanity plea is what he will
fall back on time and time again.

Deep down, Batman knows this. He knows that while the Joker is his
biggest threat, and his sworn oath never to take a life being
considered also, he also knows that the Joker is mentally ill, and
even though he has taken many lives, he cannot technically be held
accountable for his actions. He operates within the law, and while
inflicting quite a significant amount of physical pain on his
opponents, he will not take a life. He'll make ya wish you were
dead, but he won't kill you.

Is he responsible for the Joker's actions? Nope. He doesn't put the
weapons into the villains hands. The Joker has diminished
responsibility, but he is still responsible for his own actions. I
mean, is Peter Parker responsible for the killer shooting his uncle?
Again, no, even though he feels responsible. One of the things that
annoyed me about Bill Jemas was, in his notes on the inside of Ult
Spider-man vol. 1, that he held Peter responsible for Ben's death.
Peter did not put the weapon into that crooks hand, and he did not
make him shoot his uncle. That was the guy's choice. In the same
way, the methods Joker uses are entirely his own, and therefore his
own responsibility. Not Batman's

Batman has done his best to make sure that the Joker is off the
streets. He is not the law in it's entirety. It is up to the
authorities to hold him.

DonFro...@webtv.net

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Apr 15, 2009, 8:23:56 AM4/15/09
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M.O.R. says:
<<Batman has done his best to make sure that the Joker is off the
streets. He is not the law in it's entirety. It is up to the authorities
to hold him. >>

Good and well thought out and stated points. Not to say I'll change my
mind but certainly food for thought.

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