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Niels Erik Kristensen
Mar 28, 2016, 10:56:35 AM3/28/16
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Hey. iam making a Centurion mrk 5 Danish version.
All moving parts made with my 3D printer. Brushless motors and lipo battery .
First track test today:
Loic
Mar 28, 2016, 12:00:30 PM3/28/16
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Jean-Maxime Cyr St-Pierre
Mar 29, 2016, 9:10:44 PM3/29/16
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Pretty Nice work you did on that tank!!!
Lot of scaled parts!!
Am I rigth to think that you made your own 3d printed gearbox??
And by looking at your videos, it seems that you will make this tank FPV with a moving periscope on the cupola??!!
Eager to see more details on your projects!!
Jean-Maxime Cyr St-Pierre
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Lot of scaled parts!!
Am I rigth to think that you made your own 3d printed gearbox??
And by looking at your videos, it seems that you will make this tank FPV with a moving periscope on the cupola??!!
Eager to see more details on your projects!!
Jean-Maxime Cyr St-Pierre
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Niels Erik Kristensen
Mar 29, 2016, 11:29:14 PM3/29/16
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Yes your right-All moving parts are printed, including the gearboxes. And yes, my Centurion will be controled with FPV gear. That mens 2 camers: one in the tover and one pointing with the canon. And a laser pointer also to aim with :-)
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Jean-Maxime Cyr St-Pierre
Mar 30, 2016, 2:11:56 AM3/30/16
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Handsome!!
Looking foward to see this beast running!!
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Niels Erik Kristensen
Apr 10, 2016, 7:44:33 AM4/10/16
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Now i have the bottom of my Centurion running! All parts made with my 3D printer ( including gears) 2*800 watt brushles motors, with homemade cooling, and car escs to control it. The video proff that brushles plane motors works in a big tank.
Frank Pittelli
Apr 10, 2016, 4:45:06 PM4/10/16
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Nice work. Glad to see someone is using a 3D printer to build things
that actually work :-)
that actually work :-)
Niels Erik Kristensen
Apr 11, 2016, 9:06:18 AM4/11/16
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Stres tests of my tracks and gears:
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Niels Erik Kristensen
Apr 12, 2016, 4:09:46 PM4/12/16
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Final stres test before i continue the build-All test OK
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Jean-Maxime Cyr St-Pierre
Apr 14, 2016, 12:36:26 PM4/14/16
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Super job!! Look anwsome!!
I got few questions...!
What size your airplane motors are ??
What material your using for your gears?? I know there is new wires to make super strong gearing out of nylon...
What is the thing you made up for not overheating your motor?
And after all this did you see any sign of wear on any of your part?? Because your project seem to proof that the futur of our hobby pass by the 3d printing like almost in any hobby it seems...!!
Thank you
Jean-Maxime Cyr St-Pierre
I got few questions...!
What size your airplane motors are ??
What material your using for your gears?? I know there is new wires to make super strong gearing out of nylon...
What is the thing you made up for not overheating your motor?
And after all this did you see any sign of wear on any of your part?? Because your project seem to proof that the futur of our hobby pass by the 3d printing like almost in any hobby it seems...!!
Thank you
Jean-Maxime Cyr St-Pierre
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Niels Erik Kristensen
Apr 14, 2016, 2:38:11 PM4/14/16
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Iam using thise motors: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__8490__Turnigy_4258_Brushless_Motor_800kv.html
I print everything in PLA. And the thing around my motors are a cooling tube, with 2*45mm fan units in the top-Its home made like everything om my tank, i also made all drawings. I dont no yet if there are ant wear on my gears-But i can se wear marks on the tracks
TyngTech
Apr 18, 2016, 2:50:18 PM4/18/16
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PLA? That's biodegradable so don't let it get wet for any length of time. Awesome work btw.
ST
Niels Erik Kristensen
Apr 18, 2016, 4:41:49 PM4/18/16
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Yes thats right :-)-tests have been made-After one year outside in sun and rain, an objeckt made of pla will get pale, but nothing are seen on the plastic.
The most common form of bioplastic is polylactide acid or PLA and is made out of corn. Unfortunately, in order for PLA do biodegrade, it needs a certain kind of bacteria at just the right temperature. These are not found in landfills, (where most plastic bags end up), but require treatment at one of 42 commercial composting facilities in the U.S.
So i will not take my Centurion near one of the 42 composting facilities-But just stay in Denmark-And my tank will be safe :-)
TyngTech
Apr 18, 2016, 5:01:38 PM4/18/16
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Hmm... Bacteria loaded paintballs. Biological warfare comes to RCTankcombat! ;-)
wsmontg5
Apr 18, 2016, 5:17:36 PM4/18/16
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I am not sure percent fill the parts are being printed at. But my PLA at 20% fill treads don't last very long.
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Caleb Smith
Apr 18, 2016, 7:42:45 PM4/18/16
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What you have to worry more about PLA is its warpage in the heat. PLA parts will begin to warp if left in a hot car or possibly just leaving your tank in the sun. Printing with ABS will eliminate warpage and yield stronger parts, but for true durability you should look into nylon.
Niels Erik Kristensen
Apr 19, 2016, 2:26:25 AM4/19/16
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Most of my parts are printet with 99% infill-Ore vith 2mm walls and 20 % infil
Niels Erik Kristensen
Apr 19, 2016, 2:39:21 AM4/19/16
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Pla are strongere than ABS-But not elastic. Its almost like the cast iron of plastic. Make a solid 4-5mm pla part and se for yourself. ABS stinks when printet-And wrap alot during the printing. In Denmark where i live,high temperature are rare. And if one parts break i can easyly print a new one.
By the way-Wood are also bio degradeable-And it will degrade faster than PLA-Maby paintball filled with termittes will work better :-)
Niels Erik Kristensen
Aug 1, 2016, 5:22:30 PM8/1/16
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Now i have tested my PLA printed Centurion over 2 months, and there are no sign of damage on the mowing parts ( gears and tracks) Here are a video from a event where i was driving in front of spectators for fun:
Jean St-Pierre
Aug 1, 2016, 8:54:20 PM8/1/16
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It's looking super good!!!
Nice work and looking foward to see this tank fully operationnal!!!
It's sure proof that 3d printing is the new way to make things!!
Do your turret is entirely 3d printed??? It's looking so nice as the original casted one...!!!!
Jean-Maxime Cyr St-Pierre
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jvragu47
Aug 1, 2016, 10:10:10 PM8/1/16
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Looks very nice. For your next video, how about a little stress test of the suspension please? Thank you.
Niels Erik Kristensen
Aug 2, 2016, 1:25:56 AM8/2/16
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The turret are made of fiberglass. And i have made several strestests : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qGgA0uKl-o
Niels Erik Kristensen
Aug 2, 2016, 1:46:29 AM8/2/16
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Frank Pittelli
Aug 2, 2016, 8:27:23 AM8/2/16
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By "stress test", I think he means something like driving full speed over an obstacle that generates a lot of dynamic stress on the parts, such as in this video:
Driving on flat surfaces with a heavy load is a good test, but driving into and over things at full speed is the ultimate test of a vehicle :--)
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Niels Erik Kristensen
Aug 2, 2016, 3:17:54 PM8/2/16
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I dont have the opportunity to try that yet-But it will come one day :-)
Niels Erik Kristensen
Sep 25, 2016, 11:55:59 AM9/25/16
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Jean St-Pierre
Sep 25, 2016, 12:25:09 PM9/25/16
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Very impressive!! Nice work and you are very lucky to get side by side with the real thing!!
Jean-Maxime Cyr St-Pierre
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Niels Erik Kristensen
Oct 16, 2016, 1:53:05 PM10/16/16
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Now iam redy to assemble my Centurion mrk 5 tank, after painting all the parts
Den søndag den 25. september 2016 kl. 18.25.09 UTC+2 skrev jmaxhl23:
Very impressive!! Nice work and you are very lucky to get side by side with the real thing!!
Jean-Maxime Cyr St-Pierre
Le 25 sept. 2016 11:56 AM, "Niels Erik Kristensen" <ne...@live.dk> a écrit :
Painting of my Centurion in progress. I have the fortune to visit a garage where old retried tank crews are holding some old tanks in mint condition. They get out to shoot ones a year, and precipitate in shows around Denmark. On my wisit i got 5 liters of the original green color with me , to use on my Centurion mrk 5. Tery loved my tank, and i have promised to come back when i am are finis building it ;.)
Den mandag den 28. marts 2016 kl. 16.56.35 UTC+2 skrev Niels Erik Kristensen:--Hey. iam making a Centurion mrk 5 Danish version.All moving parts made with my 3D printer. Brushless motors and lipo battery .First track test today:
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Oct 17, 2016, 12:15:10 AM10/17/16
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those are nice looking tracks and wheels, just can't believe they are 3D
printed and look so clean, do you have any close up pictures of the track links?
how is the sprocket wheel holding up so far?
Chris
Niels Erik Kristensen
Oct 17, 2016, 1:30:03 AM10/17/16
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Niels Erik Kristensen
Oct 17, 2016, 1:36:45 AM10/17/16
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The marks that you can see on the inside track lings, are made with a grinder!! I use a square pies of aluminium in my solder iron to melt hule trough the safety belt between the track links-And a grinder to remove the melted plastic
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Oct 17, 2016, 5:40:09 PM10/17/16
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how do you connect your track links?
chris
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Everything hold up wherry good-I have broken a road wheel onse and 2 suspensions arms. But it is easy just to print a new spare part. My traks are spray paintet flat black, and i hope that the paint will wear off on the part that tutces the ground, and on the sprocket. It will give a more realistic look.
Den mandag den 17. oktober 2016 kl. 06.15.10 UTC+2 skrev odyssey...@aol.com:those are nice looking tracks and wheels, just can't believe they are 3D printed and look so clean, do you have any close up pictures of the track links? how is the sprocket wheel holding up so far?ChrisIn a message dated 10/16/2016 1:53:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ne...@live.dk writes:
Den mandag den 28. marts 2016 kl. 16.56.35 UTC+2 skrev Niels Erik Kristensen:Hey. iam making a Centurion mrk 5 Danish version.All moving parts made with my 3D printer. Brushless motors and lipo battery .First track test today:
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Odyssey...@aol.com
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ah, that's how you did it. i wasn't quite sure. nicely done!
chris
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Niels Erik Kristensen
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Peter Saunders
Oct 22, 2016, 4:54:41 PM10/22/16
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Gawd I am so jealous, that is looking fantastic. Looks like a 3d printer is definitely a handy tool for this hobby. Just a small question, how is your swing arm for the idler wheel going to work cause I was thinking of using the same kind of system for the m113
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Oct 22, 2016, 10:31:40 PM10/22/16
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so i take it all of thesee gears are also 3D printed?
chris
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Niels Erik Kristensen
Oct 23, 2016, 5:03:50 AM10/23/16
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Yes,
They are printet with PLA-Like the rest of the printed parts-With 100% infill
Niels Erik Kristensen
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Niels Erik Kristensen
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Niels Erik Kristensen
Oct 23, 2016, 11:34:28 AM10/23/16
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Startet to assemble the turret: First the gearbox and motor for turret turning .then drivers hatch with kamera-And then my marker and the cannon barrel. And the IR sight, with gunners camera-And the turret machine gun-Printet in black
Jean St-Pierre
Oct 23, 2016, 1:48:08 PM10/23/16
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Your using airplane motor for your turret rotation system??!! With no overheat problem?? Just like your power train..! Your design is very interesting and impresive!
Jean-Maxime Cyr St-Pierre
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Niels Erik Kristensen
Oct 23, 2016, 2:36:22 PM10/23/16
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The turret are not turning full speed wherry much, And the motor never get hot. The main engines are cooled, and are not working real hard. I can run for more than 2 hours, with only 13A battery-2* 6.6A 4S battery. The motors can make 800watt each-But they never get use of all that power. I have uset brushless motore alot over the latest 6 years-So i now what they can handle :-)
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Niels Erik Kristensen
Oct 23, 2016, 4:11:20 PM10/23/16
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Last photos from this weekend: Test fit of the turret and gun farring-And now i can se the end of my tank build.
How do i get my tank on this site: http://www.rctankcombat.com/order-of-battle/tanks/ ??
Caleb Smith
Oct 24, 2016, 6:34:39 PM10/24/16
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Wow, Niels, your work is top notch! I'm looking forward to seeing more of it. :)
Loic
Oct 24, 2016, 6:56:47 PM10/24/16
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I agree that this tank looks GORGEOUS!
And the concept of 3D printing application to the RC large scale vehicle is enticing
However, I will follow the advice of the “old timers” of RC Tank Combat, the Pitelli “clan”, Professor Sommers, or Tyng Tech prodigy: It’s all in the ‘donut’ turns on grass!
This is not the beautiful RC Tanks that I commission-build for customers which can pass this test. RC Tank Combat is the next step up in engineering and ingenuity to survive the Gettysburg test for 2 days in a row…
I’m impatiently waiting your trial runs
I would also be “pained” to shoot such a beautiful vehicle!
BTW, did you test the .68cal paintball hits on 3D printed parts? I have a 3D printer using ABS filament, and I don’t think it could take a point-blank hit.
Cheers,
Loic
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BTW, did you test the .68cal paintball hits on 3D printed parts? I have a 3D printer using ABS filament, and I don’t think it could take a point-blank hit.
What are you printing, Loic? My Locust survived a two-day event using 3D printed idlers and TTS sprockets. Both the idlers and sprockets took hits with no visible damage. My mantlet was also 3D printed and took a LOT of hits over the weekend. It had a layer of fiberglass reinforcement on it, but it didn't show any damage either.
I believe that 3D printing has a lot of uses in RCTC, but there are some things that it just isn't isn't suitable for. For example, I tried 3D printing suspension units for my Locust. (there are some pics in a past thread) Initial results looked promising, but long term durability just wasn't there. The constant stress of a 50lb. tank on the printed parts eventually broke many of the suspension units.
On the flip side there are some cool capabilities that these printers put forth. The illustration I'll use for this point is my Locust turret. For one thing, the Locust is a small tank, but it's turret is equally small. (about 8.5in in dia. plus the little storage area in the back) To get a nice accurate turret without the inside being bulky I designed the turret on a CAD program and then printed it in three pieces. After gluing the pieces together I fiberglassed it. This gave me a nice durable turret that didn't waste the limited internal space available.
Niels Erik Kristensen
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I have no one to fight with so far-I have a fiend , that are making the same Centurion-I made alle the 3D printet parts for him. Most of the printet parts are hided under the side skirts-Wits are made of 1.5 mm steel plate. And alot og my parts have 100 % infil-And then they are bulletproof.And if a part break-I can easily print a new one.
No one answered my question on hov to get my Centurion on this site http://www.rctankcombat.com/order-of-battle/tanks/
Jean St-Pierre
Oct 25, 2016, 2:24:41 AM10/25/16
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You need to send a message directly to Frank Pitteli with the info of your tank ( name , model, front armor thickness, canon size in mm ), he will send you your login infos for the webs site!!...
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Den tirsdag den 25. oktober 2016 kl. 08.24.41 UTC+2 skrev jmaxhl23:
You need to send a message directly to Frank Pitteli with the info of your tank ( name , model, front armor thickness, canon size in mm ), he will send you your login infos for the webs site!!...
Jean-Maxime Cyr St-Pierre
Le 24 oct. 2016 11:29 PM, "Niels Erik Kristensen" <ne...@live.dk> a écrit :
I have no one to fight with so far-I have a fiend , that are making the same Centurion-I made alle the 3D printet parts for him. Most of the printet parts are hided under the side skirts-Wits are made of 1.5 mm steel plate. And alot og my parts have 100 % infil-And then they are bulletproof.And if a part break-I can easily print a new one.--No one answered my question on hov to get my Centurion on this site http://www.rctankcombat.com/order-of-battle/tanks/
Den tirsdag den 25. oktober 2016 kl. 01.43.00 UTC+2 skrev Caleb Smith:BTW, did you test the .68cal paintball hits on 3D printed parts? I have a 3D printer using ABS filament, and I don’t think it could take a point-blank hit.
What are you printing, Loic? My Locust survived a two-day event using 3D printed idlers and TTS sprockets. Both the idlers and sprockets took hits with no visible damage. My mantlet was also 3D printed and took a LOT of hits over the weekend. It had a layer of fiberglass reinforcement on it, but it didn't show any damage either.
I believe that 3D printing has a lot of uses in RCTC, but there are some things that it just isn't isn't suitable for. For example, I tried 3D printing suspension units for my Locust. (there are some pics in a past thread) Initial results looked promising, but long term durability just wasn't there. The constant stress of a 50lb. tank on the printed parts eventually broke many of the suspension units.
On the flip side there are some cool capabilities that these printers put forth. The illustration I'll use for this point is my Locust turret. For one thing, the Locust is a small tank, but it's turret is equally small. (about 8.5in in dia. plus the little storage area in the back) To get a nice accurate turret without the inside being bulky I designed the turret on a CAD program and then printed it in three pieces. After gluing the pieces together I fiberglassed it. This gave me a nice durable turret that didn't waste the limited internal space available.
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Impressive work,
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it almost looks small like a kids play toy tank until you see that recliner behind it
chris
Niels Erik Kristensen
Apr 22, 2017, 7:05:14 AM4/22/17
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First video of FPV test with all 3 cameras and turret movement-Almost battel redy :-)
Loic
Apr 24, 2017, 5:34:30 PM4/24/17
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Love it! Can you change the way the aim looks? Would love to put a German OPTICS scale like the real tank! It would allow for quick judging for distance and you could score some long shots!!
http://p.twpl.jp/show/large/KF4ub like this picture
Loic
Niels Erik Kristensen
Apr 25, 2017, 12:52:51 PM4/25/17
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No i cant chance the sight-Its from a OSD for aeroplane.
Niels Erik Kristensen
Jul 9, 2017, 10:21:19 AM7/9/17
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O no-You cant use brushless aeroplane motors for a tank! And you cant use 3D printer to make moving parts with!!
I done both-motors are 2* 800 watt brushless aeroplane motors running on 4S lipo
And all moving parts are printet with PLA on my 3D printer.
And iam happy with the outcome!
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just ansome!! amazing! you did prove what we can do in the future of this hobby!!
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Loic
Jul 10, 2017, 1:42:49 PM7/10/17
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Great work Niels,
I noticed you run on asphalt. Would love to see your tank run in grass.
Also, could you take a picture of your tracks after your running? Those donuts turns are hard on plastic. Is this PLA or other polycarbonates?
Your tank looks awesome
Cheers from Utah,
Loic
Niels Erik Kristensen
Jul 10, 2017, 2:58:09 PM7/10/17
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I dont have any late run on gras on video-Only the first one, made 1 year ago-But it runs in the same way:
It have hardly grinded the paint from the tracks yet-The donuts turns dont do any harm-PLA is hard.
And my tank are strong-Photo from last year-before the paint job
Niels Erik Kristensen
Aug 1, 2017, 6:55:23 AM8/1/17
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