Orange 58cm Rambouillets Is this a Mythical Beast?

[Hugh Smitham]

I've been a member since 2012 and not saying one hasn't popped up as I do go underground (as any good Dwarf is want to do) from time to time, but I've yet to see one of these creatures. I've seen 54's & 56's with some regularity but a 58cm? Maybe it's a good thing to keep the temptations away but I think I'd be hard pressed not to throw down for one. Anyways, any thoughts on this elusive Rivendell?

~Hugh "dreaming of popsicle orange sheep" Smitham

[dougP]

Hugh:

I saw one just last weekend but I know it's not for sale.  Jim may know but it seems to me the Hilsen is quite similar, maybe better tire clearance & other details?  I know what you mean about the orange color.  It must have been an involved process to get that effect.

dougP

[Hugh Smitham]

Well the Ram seems more roadish than even the Hilsen but can run up to 38's and a 58 would fit me even better than the Trek 660. See I'm trying to convince myself to bring another Riv back into the stable :)

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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[dougP]

A worthy endeavor.  Enabling function enabled.  Radar set to "orange Ram".

dougP

[Lungimsam]

If munny isn't an issue, mayhap an orange Roadeo would suffice?
10 years of extra frame life and you could dictate your braze-ons.

[Lungimsam]

I could get a Blue or Green 52 NIB right now from Alex Cycle if I had wife approval.
But dare I ask?

Sorry, they had no oranges or 58's of any kind.

[Hugh Smitham]

Are you saying you have a roadeo in my size? One that's ruff around the edges? To be clear I just want a frame & fork as I have the parts already. And yeah I checked Alexcycles unfortunately none in my size.

On Mar 16, 2016 12:03 PM, "Lungimsam" <john1...@gmail.com> wrote:

If munny isn't an issue, mayhap an orange Roadeo would suffice?
10 years of extra frame life and you could dictate your braze-ons.

[Lungimsam]

Hi Hugh,

I mean't that you could get one from RBW.
The bonuses, compared to a used Ram, being that you could dictate your color and braze-ons.
Plus, it's a new bike and not 6-14 years old like any used Ram is at this point.

[Hugh Smitham]

Good point.

[Bill Lindsay]

"Bummer Dude!" as the kids used to say.  :-)

Seriously though, since 58cm orange Ram's catch my eye and tempt me as much or more than just about anything, I will say that they seem to come up pretty often.  I can't name an exact date, but I distinctly recall being tempted by a 58cm orange ram on this board several times.  Probably less than 10 times, but maybe 5.  Like once a year?  Maybe I'm around too much..... :-\

On Wednesday, March 16, 2016 at 10:02:08 AM UTC-7, Hugh Smitham wrote:

[Lungimsam]

Hugh,

Desperate times call for desperate measures:

1. Search all of craigslist here:
http://www.my-craigs-finder.com/index

2. Check flikr for orang Ram pics. Someone posted a 58? Contact them with a gentle and respectful email to see if they are interested in selling.

3. Look at the pics posted by owners in link below. 58? Contact owner. http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/

[Lungimsam]

There is an orabge 58 with the owner's email posten under item 3 in the last post of mine. Maybe he'd sell. A friendly email will give you the answer.
http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2008/cc486-forrestmeyer0508.html

[Hugh Smitham]

Fortunately I'm not desperate.  If the stars line up and a 58 Ram pokes it's horns out on this list serve and I'm swift like an Elf in my messaging (beating Bill Lindsay) perhaps middle earth will see fit to add a popsicle orange Ram to my stable.

[Lungimsam]

Interesting that the head tube lugs differ among the oranges in the pics I've seen.

[Lungimsam]

Bill is too busy with his new Appaloosa to worry about no Orangouillets!

He'll probably be busy tweaking his fenders as you're sealing the deal!

[Sam Wanless]

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/5494438043.html

On Wednesday, March 16, 2016 at 10:02:08 AM UTC-7, Hugh Smitham wrote:

[bo richardson]

you guys are amazing

[Hugh Smitham]

Amazing at codependancy :)

you guys are amazing

[cyclotourist]

Aren't you sorry you asked now! Hugh, that is perfect! Campy triple, Brooks, Nitto... wow!

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[Mark in Beacon]

Some nice parts on that, too. The Nitto lugged stem is cool, but it looks like a threadless?

[cyclotourist]

Yeah, threadless on one of those adapters. 

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[Hugh Smitham]

Well I just need a F/F as I already have a Campy group for it. Its a beauty though.

[cyclotourist]

Sell that off to help subsidize!

[Pondero]

I can picture Hugh riding that gorgeous Orange Ram...what a great image...and I really enjoy spending his money.

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

[Hugh Smitham]

Yeah packing parts and more trips to USPS not that tempting :^)

[Hugh Smitham]

Hey stay outta my wallet ;^)

[James Warren]

Ready for some evil, Hugh? As far as the bike shipping goes, I'm gonna be in Pleasanton in 3 weeks. If you were to buy this Ram, I could easily pick it up and drop it off to your house on my way home on Sunday April 10.

James Warren

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[Hugh Smitham]

Thanks Jim,

Let me consider your offer and more importantly, I'll reach out to the CL poster as to whether they would consider selling just the F/F?

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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[Hugh Smitham]

You're right Mark it is a nice build with nice parts. The stem is threadless and a beaut.

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein

http://velocipeedemusings.com/

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 7:26 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

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[cyclot...@gmail.com]

Jim's service is rated highly, not a scratch!

[Hugh Smitham]

I have it on good authority it is so. 

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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[James Warren]

But it's only good on Rivs of orange color in California! This one would make me 3 for 3 in that color. The other two:

Orange QB from Walnut Creek to Redlands
Orange Hillborne (my own that I sold to the buyer in San Luis Obispo)

Will Hugh add to this orange trend?

These bikes really class up the roof rack! (Truck-bed rack, actually)

[cyclot...@gmail.com]

I think Hugh has to make this happen... too many planets aligning! 

[Hugh Smitham]

Remember I have another pan in the fire.  And David there you go again spending my money for me. Fortunately,  you don't have my bank account # :^)

[James Warren]

And anyway, skinny tires are so turn of the century.

[cyclot...@gmail.com]

Lots of burners on that stove, might as well heat them all up!

[Evan E.]

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/5494438043.html

Must. Be. Strong. Must. Resist.

[Jay in Tel Aviv]

I was curious about the craigslist search so I looked and found this
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/5494438043.html
Good luck.

[Hugh Smitham]

Yup. This one I have seen and a beauty too. I reached out and asked whether he was interested in selling just the F/F/HS but he wants to sell it as a complete, which I completely understand. At the moment I'm reluctant to buy as a whole and sell off the parts. It's a hassle. Thanks for the heads up.

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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[Lungimsam]

But selling off the parts has the benefit of the opportunity for many rides to/from the post office!!

[Hugh Smitham]

On the pro side of the ledger I'll keep that in mind over the weekend while I'm at the RSR in Redlands. 

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein

http://velocipeedemusings.com/

On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 11:16 PM, Lungimsam <john1...@gmail.com> wrote:

But selling off the parts has the benefit of the opportunity for many rides to/from the post office!!

[Lungimsam]

Maybe you could just order one from RBW like people can order Bombas and Legolii and Wilburys.

[Hugh Smitham]

That's an interesting idea. 

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein

http://velocipeedemusings.com/

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 8:11 AM, Lungimsam <john1...@gmail.com> wrote:

Maybe you could just order one from RBW like people can order Bombas and Legolii and Wilburys.

[NickBull]

Pretty sure my formerly-all-orange Ram is a 58.  The story behind the green stays: The drive-side rear dropout cracked a few years ago and when Bilenky brazed in a new one we had to decide how to repaint.  Bilenky didn't think they could do the orange, or at least not at a price I was willing to pay.  This is what we came up with.  A unique form of beausage!  I had vaguely been thinking about selling it before the drop-out cracked.  But I figured that the green spoils the market value so it was a decision between "do I want to hold onto this forever (and thus repaint)" or "try to sell a frame with a broken drop-out".  I decided I was fine with keeping it forever, mostly riding it as my fast commuter (20 miles round-trip and a thousand feet of climbing).  It's currently shod with Nokian Hakka 700x40 studded tires for winter use.

[mikel...@juno.com]

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[Lungimsam]

Headtube matching cream.

[Matt B.]

Wouldn't have been as cool as the green socks IMHO.


On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 5:40:20 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:

Headtube matching cream.

[islaysteve]

Rambleriot! Seriously, I like it!
Steve

[Lungimsam]

Yeah, I was looking at it again and looks like it coukd be Bleriot blue.

[Mike Schiller]

ya know Hugh, not all Rams can  fit 38 mm tires. I had a green one that could only barely clear a 33 mm Jack brown in the front.  Back was fine.  It was a nice riding bike but tire limitations caused me to sell it off.   And them damn caliper brakes.  Canti's for like for me ( well except discs on MTB's)

~mike

[Don Compton]

Great bike. Thanks for posting

[James Warren]

Orange one with the original lugs fits 33 mm Jack Browns no problem. I might try Barlow Pass's on my mine, but I haven't tried that yet. No need though, because I love how it rides with Jack Brown Greens.

On Mar 18, 2016, at 5:21 PM, 'Mike Schiller' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

ya know Hugh, not all Rams can  fit 38 mm tires. I had a green one that could only barely clear a 33 mm Jack brown in the front.  Back was fine.  It was a nice riding bike but tire limitations caused me to sell it off.   And them damn caliper brakes.  Canti's for like for me ( well except discs on MTB's)

~mike

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[Lungimsam]

With fenders?

[NickBull]

If you are replying to my post of the orange ram with blue-green stays ...

We discussed matching the headtube cream color, but Bilenky recommended against it, I think because they said that it would tend to look dirty all the time and also cream is so muted a color it would kind of wash out visually.

So what they were matching was the green in the Rambouillet headtube badge.

FWIW, center of BB to top of top tube is a hair under 22.5" which is 57.2 cm.  So I don't know what that means--the Rambouillet geometry table has 56 and 58.  Maybe I'm not measuring quite right.  Or maybe the 58 is to the top of a virtual horizontal top tube, I think the Ram has a little bit of upslope.

Nick

[Leslie]

I don't think I could've handled that shade of green against the orange....  

I had Bilenky replace the broken dropout on frame I got for my son, then I painted it to match the headtube; 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/23946265090/in/album-72157623199721925/