Locks

[Surlyprof]

Since Leah brought up the issue of security here's a question that has been nagging at me.  Is there a decent lock that's smaller and lighter than a standard Ulock and would fit easily into a Keven's bag?  For weekday commuting the Hillborne is loaded down with heavy 36hole A719 wheels, a Wald basket, Shopsack, med saddlesack, sturdy Ulock, computer bag, etc.  On the weekends and summers, I like to lighten things up.  I switch out the wheels for 32 hole Synergys with Barlow Pass ELs, lose the Wald and Shopsack, swap the med saddlesack for a Keven's bag and head out for fun, light rides without the baggage of my daily commute.  However, in case I need to stop anywhere, I still strap the heavy Ulock on the rear rack.  Does anyone have a suggestion for smaller, lightweight lock solutions for quick stops?  Riv is carrying a lock I may purchase that is about 1/2 the weight of my Ulock but they say it is a tight fit in a Keven's bag (http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/lk10.htm).  Another alternative is this Abus folding lock but, for the price, it doesn't seem to buy me much weight loss from my Kryptonite Evolution (https://www.abus.com/eng/Mobile-Security/Bike-Safety-and-Security/Locks/Folding-locks/Bordo-GRANIT-X-Plus-6500).

Any suggestions?  

John "who's still nervous when he only straps his helmet to the front wheel and downtube while getting a coffee"

[René Sterental]

Hi John,

For what you describe, the most practical lock I've seen and own, is the Kryptonite Evolution Lite Mini-6 U-Lock. I actually carry mine hooked through the leather loops between the saddle and the bag resting on top rear of the bag, not inside the bag. It also fits inside the small Sackville front trunksack exactly.

René 

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[René Sterental]

Actually, it might be the 4, the smallest one. I'm checking as there are a variety of mini lock models and I think some are larger than others.

René 

[René Sterental]

It's the 5, the one I have; it's the smallest.

[Lungimsam]

Tigr mini?
http://tigrlock.com/mini/

[Reed Kennedy]

For quick stops where I won't be far from the bike I use what I call my "touring lock", a Palmy aluminum u-lock:

https://www.amazon.com/Palmy-Mini-Aluminium-U-lock-Black/dp/B003VLIWGE

It is light, cheap, and provides the appearance that you bike is locked with a u-lock. (They sell them in many fun colors. I recommend the black one I linked above, because looking like a real u-lock is half the game here.)

To be sure, it provides relatively little actual security. I haven't tried, but I suspect you could likely defeat it by just banging on it with a rock a bunch and then pulling hard. 

But since it does such a convincing impression of actual security folks tend to leave it alone for at least long enough for me to run in to a shop or have lunch. 

Reed

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[Jon BALER]

serfas puck lock

https://www.serfas.com/products/view/319/referer:products%7Cindex%7Cbike-accessories%7Clocks

can be combined with a cable for additional security on the wheels

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[Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)]

I really like the Abus lock you referenced. It has a sturdy but lightweight holster that mounts to water bottle cage braze-ons.  I put mine under the down tube on my Bombadil and Atlantis, and I don't even notice it's there until I need it. 

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[Patrick Moore]

The mfr rates it at "4". Does this mean it is more secure than the Tigr at "2"?

Does that same organization do all the ratings?

And, what exactly do the numbers mean?

Does anyone know?

If indeed "4" is better than "2" in a way material to bike safety, this puck looks like a very good product at a very good price.

[drew]

The manufacturer rating is different from ART and Sold secure. Those two are independent testing agencies that rate locks in a more objective way under real world conditions.

[John]

I think it all comes down to where and when you need to lock up your Sam on the weekends. In this video, you can see even the thickest Kryptonite u-lock can be cut through in a little over a minute:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pywN558dJaU

Living & riding here in Berkeley, CA, when I'm riding light, I lock up my Homer or Hunq with one or two Tigr mini locks with matching keys. I also use Pitlock skewers, Pitlock Pitstoppers & security allen bolts to keep my wheels, stem, seat post or racks from going walkabout & my load lighter. Or if I'm feeling particularly paranoid about where I'm going, I also strap my Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit Mini u-lock to the outside of my XS saddlesack.

On the weekends, where & how long do you need to lock up your Sam?

John

[Lungimsam]

You have to be careful as the tigr was made stronger in the newest production models. I think they thickened up the straps.

 

[Patrick Kelly]

The one, the best, the u-lock that I most highly recommend is the Abus Granit Futura 64, aka U-Lock 64/120HB150

It’s small, it’s light, it’s extra hardened. It’s rated by the manufacturer as more secure that some of their other (heavier) u-locks.

Advantages/features of this lock:

• small & light
• locks both sides of the U rather than just one end
• keyhole covered, keeps out crud
• stronger/harder steel than other, heavier locks

Disadvantages/drawbacks:

• no good bicycle mounting option
• sometimes too small
• not as secure as top-end u-locks
• more expensive than less-good locks

http://blog.phlatphrog.com/the-one-true-bike-lock

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[Scott G.]

On Saturday, October 22, 2016 at 4:57:28 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:

You have to be careful as the tigr was made stronger in the newest production models. I think they thickened up the straps.

The Tigr Mini was only made in the stronger version (wider bar)
The early Tigr bow locks had narrower bars and were easier to cut.

 

 

[Surlyprof]

http://www.dezeen.com/2016/10/31/skunklock-bicycle-lock-makes-thieves-vomit-design/#more-994813

Just saw this as an forthcoming option.

John

[Big Clem]

This entire discussion is worth reading:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/internet-bob/lock%7Csort:relevance/internet-bob/lCLlgmSub40/hjFOn9AEAwAJ

[Bill in Roswell GA]

Indeed. All the discussion on locks is meaningless compared to the actual experience police departments have had removing locks on abandoned bikes. Cheap U Locks are as worthless as cable locks. Expensive U Locks are slightly better. But there is more to bike security so read the discussion if the subject is dear to you.

Bill in Roswell, GA

[Jon Dukeman,central Colorado]

I have missed many a lunch after ride or "meet for coffee" rides due to me being worried about my bike being stolen or not having my lock with me due to weight.I have a Kryptonite NewYork U-lock..5 lbs

I'm leaning towards the Abus Bordo 6500 or the Litelok.

Here's a site that Drew mentioned.

You can look up your lock or find a list of Gold standard rated locks.

http://www.soldsecure.com/

Click on Approved Product Search..... For what it's worth..

Jon