Long Chain Stays

[James Valiensi]

HI,

I've always found longer chain stays have many advantages and few draw backs. They give a smoother ride, make the bicycle less twitchy, allow for bigger tires and fenders. So when I got my Appaloosa I thought this has really long chain stays and will make a good bike for off road too. 

However, I found one disadvantage of the really long stays - it makes the front end hard to pull up to go over stuff. Like this bike is hard to ride over a curb. Anyone else notice that?

[Deacon Patrick]

We just discussed this recently, buried in a thread somewhere. My daughters are learning to pop their front wheels of the Clementines, but it is harder. The tend to roll through stuff more than pop over, so their riding technique is different, but no less effective. Same with pedal strike with a lowish BB and longer chain stays. They just backpedal as needed to position the pedal. Generally not curbs around here, but rocks and roots and washouts. Learning curve? Yes. They love the benefits and find they far outweigh the price of learning new techniques.

With abandon,

Patrick

[Joe Bernard]

You're probably right, but I'm not sure the ability to hop over curbs is high on the list of most people who ride an Appaloosa. I can't remember the last time I did that on ANY bike.

[Scott Henry]

Oh heck, I bet I hop up on a curb a few times a week, just about every time I ride to a store.  

And once more heading into a park by myself that has a pretty good tasting drinking fountain.

Scott

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote:

You're probably right, but I'm not sure the ability to hop over curbs is high on the list of most people who ride an Appaloosa. I can't remember the last time I did that on ANY bike.

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[Bill Lindsay]

It's true.  The Joe Appaloosa is not the best bike for curb-hopping.  Tandems and extracycles are lousy at curb-hopping as well.  

Bill Lindsay

El Cerrito, CA

[Richard Rios]

Indeed I found the long chainstays make it difficult to get the front end of the bike up to go over obsticles. I also experienced a significant amuout of pedal strike. On flat ground even with rocks n whatnot not such a big deal, but it felt like the minute things got even slightly off camber they would begin to catch.But that could be low bb or low bb and long cs. In any event IMHO the worst time for that to be happening. But yes the bike was silkey smooth and ran through sand with a lot less squirm. I'm not really adding anything new to my previous posts. But really like anything long CS have trade offs they are not magic but you might dig them and think so and that is cool.They will either work for you and your riding style or they wont. I am a bit put off by the assertion that if you are not into the whole long CS thing then you don't get Riv. Something to this effect was on the tail end of what Riv wrote about um (long cs that is). Anyway for me I love my Atlantis and Simpleone with regular long cs !)

[David Banzer]

I hop curbs on my Clem. Huge tires help, it's fun.
David
Chicago

[Joe Bernard]

My eCLEM has fat tires, and the motor and battery are in the back. I'll bet a burst of power would bring that front wheel right up and over a curb. Or low wall!

[BenG]

I specifically asked Keven if I could still lift the front end up a curb on this long bike before I bought his brown protoloosa. And if it would take a kickstand. He called those mature bike priorities.

[iamkeith]

"Mature" as in "not something you'd expect to be resolved in a prototype" ?  Or "mature" as in "good questions, and of course you can" ?