...says Will in the November 9th (today) Blug post.
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That makes a chain tensioner, eccentric bottom bracket or rear hub mandatory. No thanks.
George in NoCal
regarding vertical drops, yes better, but not as good as through axles once you enter disc territory. Better for caliper braked derailer bikes though, IF the frame is straight enough.
Clayton Scott
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The rear fork ends are definitely a good-news/bad-news feature. Current fashion seems to require the atavistic rear-opening design for singlespeed/fixed-gear bikes, even though dropout type (front opening) fork ends are much more convenient to use. The good news is that the Quickbeam's rear axle slots are not truly horizontal, but rather are angled to be roughly perpendiular to the seat-stays. This means that you can take advantage of the long adjustment slots to use different gear combinations without having to re-adjust your rear brake shoes every time you move the wheel. That's a big advantage!
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I suppose the limiting factor is the side pull brake, but the sidepull Sam accomodates larger tires.
Again, not a critism.
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I would guess the answer lies in the many nuances of geometry snd each small change can have a large affect on the ride.
IanA/Edmonton Canada where wider tires are welcome on our winter ravaged roads.
Pbh of 83 so sounds like 53 would be the way to go..I'm guessing something like a 55 tt..
Ian, i didn't compare but, if that's accurate, it kind of reinforces my theory. The hillbourne is somewhat stout and able to take racks for small loads and is probably perfect for something like a credit card tour. The roadeo (and presumably this blue lug single speed?) is made for spirited, shorter rides and racing. My guess is that the critical clearance-limitation point of the roadeo is at the chainstays, even if the two bikes use the same brakes. They "could" but probably don't "want" to shape or bend things around enough to fit a bigger tire.
On the other hand, as joe mentioned, they probably have to manage some aesthetic expectations from the target buyer and, in the case of the roadeo / blue lug, that might mean straight, skinny chainstays that allow for the lowest possible Q factor.
And i suppose your point is valid too, since the hub spacing is narrower than 135 on both bikes. That alone would affect chainstay clearance if the stays are straight.
My quickbeam, (which is even too limited for my preference, for the same reasons as you) has a large crimped area at the tire location that I'm assuming doesn't exist on the roadeo, because of it's potential stiffening effect.
The golden unicorn for me, I suppose, is Rodeo type performance and ride quality on 44mm wide Compass tires. Something has to give though!
Clearly my understanding of bicycle geometry and design is lacking. Even trying to figure out ST and HT angles on my own bikes and how that affects fit and setting up my cockpit and saddle position is something I'm still trying to comprehend. For now, I just use trial and error and approximate measurements, but I have amassed a few extra stems and caused myself a few cricked necks in the process. What feels comfortable at home turns into a torture device 4 hours down the road. A inch higher, closer, further etc and Nirvana is achieved. I'd just like to be able to find that in theory first.
These are all questions of geometry and I am learning that the sheer amount of time and comprehension that goes into a good bicycle design is not something to be taken for granted.
IanA
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What are your all thoughts on a crankset? My last bike had a 144mm BCD crankset, which made finding chainrings a bit hard but also a bit expensive.Sugino XD or similar? I had a TA Pro 5 Vis crankset but i stripped the threads on it so that's out..
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One of these, for sure:
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Belopsky <belopol...@gmail.com> wrote:
What are your all thoughts on a crankset? My last bike had a 144mm BCD crankset, which made finding chainrings a bit hard but also a bit expensive.Sugino XD or similar? I had a TA Pro 5 Vis crankset but i stripped the threads on it so that's out..
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This is silly. It is a single speed or a manual shifter bike. For single speed you need an EBB, sliders, or horizontatal drops. Adding a "dangler" to it is like saying "I am not shifting my derailer bike so it is a single speed".regarding vertical drops, yes better, but not as good as through axles once you enter disc territory. Better for caliper braked derailer bikes though, IF the frame is straight enough.
Clayton Scott
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The best rear fork end for ss or fixed is the long horizontal, sloped so that your rear brake pads (if you use a rear caliper) remain more or less aligned with the rim when you move the wheel back and forth.I'd much rather have track ends on a ss/fixed frame than verticals, but I'd much rather have long horizontals than track ends.Rivendell, please take note!
Anyone think this could work? 120mm O.L.D. https://janheine.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/hub_gb_hf_5sp_6sp.jpgCould use spacers and the like if you want to run a true single speed setup or could maybe make a 5speed work too>?
...says Will in the November 9th (today) Blug post.
From what Grant's written about the coming bike.. "• 120 rear spacing, new rear dropouts---track style...two eyes for rak & fendr. No der tab. Angle like Quickbeam's, long, too." it may work
Doug
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Oh, purty!
On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 6:33 AM, lconley <lco...@brph.com> wrote:
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With abandon,
Patrick
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With abandon,
Patrick
With abandon,
Patrick
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With abandon,
Patrick