What's in Your Cockpit?

[Eric Norris]

My Riv Road: Steel, leather, friction shifting ... and a bunch of electronic gear. Even the headlights are electronic. 

What's in *your* cockpit?

–Eric N

[Deacon Patrick]

As close to naked as I dare! Grin.

Hunqapillar: Brake levers, thumb shifter for rear DR.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/deaconpatrick/29288700126/in/dateposted-public/

Quickbeam: Brake levers

https://www.flickr.com/photos/deaconpatrick/29010417892/in/dateposted-public/

I have a battery powered IQ light that I occasionally pop on there, but only rarely.

I've kept the Hunqapillar's bars unwrapped as I experimented with the brake lever placement, and also again testing if I like the bars naked. I do, until I sweat. Climbing steep hills without cotton tape isn't fun when sweating on the bars. Interestingly, round here that's mostly an issue Spring and Fall (keep in mind, summer is a 30 day period that happens randomly between mid-June and mid-August and winter is October through April, Autumn and Spring happening in the fringe calidoscope of days) because in Summer the temp is high (for here) but the humidity is low because the temp is high, so moisture management is not an issue. However, now, with cooler temps and with stormy days we often have 70-100% humidity, in the 40-60˚F range, so nothing evaporates. Bars are soon getting the cotton tape (Grey on both this time round).

I've mentioned my aversion to cockpit gadgets like GPS/computers. The simplicity of the ride is wondrous. On today's ride, I paid zero attention to time or distance, though I know I rode fairly fast as I was a gear higher than often. I love that kind of "ride by feel," and do it even when I'm exploring new territory (though at this point I basically know what's in my day ride range quite well, so there is no new territory without either getting driven somewhere or bikepacking from home.).

With abandon,

Patrick 

[Eric Norris]

Deacon:

You are the soul surfer of cyclists:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_surfer 

Ride on!

--Eric Norris
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[franklyn]

Hi, Eric,

Interesting exercise. I have five bikes, and I have tried various handlebars but always ended up using drop bars with aero levers; I have dabbled in GPS computers, but now only have simple cyclometers that keep track of distance, speed, and time of day. I have cloths or cork bar tape, and since all five bikes have dynamo wheels, the front light is sitting lower around rack height. On some bikes I have only downtube shifters, some bar-end shifters on the right hand, and one bike has mismatched bar-end shifters--all of them friction.

This picture shows a fairly standard set up for me.

Best,
Franklyn

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 5:37:23 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:

My Riv Road: Steel, leather, friction shifting ... and a bunch of electronic gear. Even the headlights are electronic. 

What's in *your* cockpit?

–Eric N

[Eric Karnes]

Mine seems to get more austere each year...shellacked cotton over old tubes, fraying black twine and brake levers. In the evenings, there's a little Knog USB headlight on there, but it comes off whenever I lock the bike around Philly. 

A few years back, I ditched the cycle computer. It really helped me to get over the overwhelming riding as 'training' mentality. Not that there's anything wrong with training...I just never knew exactly what I was training for. 

Eric

[Eric Norris]

I switched to GPS computers a few years ago. I like having just one computer that goes from bike to bike without the need to calibrate for wheel size.

Prior to GPS, I had a computer for each bike, so what you see on my bike is actually part of an overall “simpler” cycling lifestyle.

GPS computers are also great for randonneuring, particularly with the ability to load courses and get reminders when a turn is coming up (great at night or when sleep-deprived).

--Eric Norris
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[Joe Bernard]

The Appaloosa (main 'nice bike' bike) currently has Choco-Moose, Ergon grips, Tektro levers for cantis, SunRace 9-speed thumbies, USB headlight kinda like yours, but the newer model with the rubber-band mount. I put my phone on a mount or in a bar bag..it has a GPS app on it, but I've never quite sorted out all the functions.

This bar is in mid-construction to be swappable with the Noodles that came on the bike after I get all the cable splitters installed. That bar has Silver bar-ends.

[Ron Mc]

headlight, bell and Randi-Jo bar bag

[Philip Kim]

Just the Randi Jo bag aside from brake levers and shifters for me

[Scott Henry]

Eric,
I'm curious about the go-pro and the narrative.  Why the duplication?   More curious as a photographer, I'm fairly sterile regarding my cockpit.   Nothing on my bars that isn't required.    Though one does have some touring/cross levers.  Other than that its just tape over two layers of foam rubber.  

I have a battery light that normally stays in the bag, my one dyno bike has the headlight mounted front low on the rack.    Cell phone goes in the bag and I buy a new computer every few years, but take them back off even before the batteries go dead.   

Its strange thinking about it, I love gadgets in my normal life, but have moved away from them on the bike....
Go figure. 

Curious about those dueling cameras though.
Scott

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[Garth]

     A brass duet IncrediBell . About the only one's I ring it "at" is the horses and cows I say hi too along my way.  I have never been fond of things that tell me speed or distance on a bike. To "live in the moment" has weird implication, as if what, there is something else beside now ?  It's always and only now no matter what a clock looks like, and always and only here no matter what here looks like, so what's to keep track of ?  A clock is but infinite faces of now, our environment the infinity of here.

  The path to some-where and the road to no-where are the same one place, here !

  Smile, Life is Fun :)

[Addison Wilhite]

I no longer have this specific setup for my Allrounder but I did post about it here:

http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2011/09/bicycle-cockpit.html

Here is the most recent version with albatross and deerhead shifters:

http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2016/04/rivendell-as-nature-and-god-intended.html

Best,

Addison Wilhite, M.A. 

Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology 

“Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success”

Educator: Professional Portfolio

Blogger: Reno Rambler 

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[RichS]

Eric, nice suggestion for a topic. Thanks!
My Hunq Gray Atlantis: Nitto - Noodles, stem, F15 bag holder supporting a Riv boxy handlebar bag (fantastic!),
maroon bar tape, twine, brass bell, non-aero brake levers, Silver bar ends. No electronics. Headlight attached to a Gino mount on the left fork.

Best,
Richard

[Eric Norris]

Scott:

I usually don’t carry the Narrative Clip, which I bought mostly because I’m fascinated by the technology—a camera about the size of a matchbook that takes hi-res photos and 1080P video. The Clip takes a photo at intervals you set as long as it’s not laid face-down; viewed in the iPhone app, the images turn into a time-lapse movie (curiously, they don’t provide for exporting the movies … yet).

If I’m intent on filming a ride, I’ll carry another video camera in a jersey pocket or in my handlebar bag for handheld footage.

--Eric Norris
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On Aug 30, 2016, at 5:17 AM, Scott Henry <ske...@gmail.com> wrote:

Eric,
I'm curious about the go-pro and the narrative.  Why the duplication?   More curious as a photographer, I'm fairly sterile regarding my cockpit.   Nothing on my bars that isn't required.    Though one does have some touring/cross levers.  Other than that its just tape over two layers of foam rubber.  

I have a battery light that normally stays in the bag, my one dyno bike has the headlight mounted front low on the rack.    Cell phone goes in the bag and I buy a new computer every few years, but take them back off even before the batteries go dead.   

Its strange thinking about it, I love gadgets in my normal life, but have moved away from them on the bike....
Go figure. 

Curious about those dueling cameras though.
Scott

On Aug 29, 2016 8:37 PM, "Eric Norris" <campyo...@me.com> wrote:

My Riv Road: Steel, leather, friction shifting ... and a bunch of electronic gear. Even the headlights are electronic. 

What's in *your* cockpit?

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–Eric N

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[Mojo]

Eric, like you my headlights have migrated down to near tire height. Cyclometers have mostly gone away and I have not moved into the GPS world. My rides are now mostly number free (except an occasional timed climb up the local four mile hill) and I love it. My Jones bar bikes both have a bag that holds arm coolers (this time of year), cell phone, snack, pepper spray.

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 6:37:23 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:

[Lungimsam]

On my Bleriot I have:

Nitto Pearl Stem - 6cm extension

Nitto Noodles - 41cm

Nitto/Compass/Grand Bois Decailer

Shimano Road Brake Levers

VO Randonneur rack

Silver Shifters

Compass Cycles Bell - aluminum

Green Grips Aquamarine heavyweight bartape

Specialized Bar Phat pads

Twine I bought from Rivendell Bike Works

Clear Shellac

Jagwire housing - gray

silver colored ferrules

Shimano/Yokozuna type brake and shifter cables

Electrical tape

[Lungimsam]

More pics: 

[Marc Irwin]

Both Riv's have Bosco's with Tektro Lever and interrupter levers, friction shift barcons on the Hunq, stem shifters on Sam.  Both have DiaCompe Stoker knobs in a strategic place now, a German Mirror and I have a BM Eyc on the Hunq but that's it.  I use VO Leather although I tried the harlequin wrap on the Hunq once. 

Marc

[Brian Campbell]

Pretty Simple

[Eric Norris]

95 mph? Nice!

--Eric N

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Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

On Aug 30, 2016, at 6:37 PM, Brian Campbell <bdcamp...@gmail.com> wrote:

Pretty Simple

[Brian Campbell]

That's uphill..;-)

[Clementine59]

All of my bikes: brake levers, bell, mirror and a battery-powered headlight/mount. This summer, I removed all of my bike computers in tossed them in the trash. I haven't missed them. 

[JohnS]

I'm in the less is more crowd as well. 

Quick Beam = brake levers, bell, down tube shifter for the 2 fixed Bendix hub

Salsa Casseroll = inverse levers on mustache bar, down tube shifter for rear derailleur, no front derailleur

Lights are currently strapped on for the summer, will mount to QB front rack in the fall.

JohnS

[Tim Butterfield]

I finally have my new AHH cockpit far enough along to show.  It looks like this:

Tim

[René Sterental]

Is it my eyes, the distortion of the wide angle close focusing lens or are the brake levers installed reversed? Maybe I'm the one reversed, but I always install them with the curve going inwards towards the center. Are they marked R & L on the side of the hood?

René 

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[Tim Butterfield]

Since it was assembled by Riv, I suspect it is correct.  I think it is due to the iPhone lens distorting it.  When looking from the front, the brake levers are aligned with the drops.  These two crops of prior pictures show other angles.

If you would like to see other angles, let me know.

Tim

[René Sterental]

Ah, definitely an angle of view thing... Whew!

[Reed Kennedy]

Oh, that leather bar tape looks gorgeous. What sort is it?

Also, how have you gotten on with that Garmin bike computer? I've been trying to decide between one of those and the new Wahoo thing. 

Best,

Reed

[Tim Butterfield]

Reed,

That is the Grand Bois tape from Compass.  It is very nice.  I still need to add some Obenauf's LP to it, though.

https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/components/handlebars/grand-bois-leather-handlebar-tape/

Yesterday was the first time my Edge 820 has been outside on the bike.  So, I don't have much experience with it yet.  I have not even updated from the default settings yet.  I would look to a DC Rainmaker review for solid info on it.  It was much more compact than I expected.  I bought the bare 820 without any Garmin sensors.  I am using the Wahoo BLUE SC sensor and the TICKR X heart rate strap.  Both the TICKR X and the new, not old, BLUE SC, send data simultaneously in both ANT+ and Bluetooth formats.  So, the 820 can receive data at the same time as the Wahoo app on my iPhone.  I uploaded the Wahoo app data to various sites.  When I checked Strava later, it had a group with entries from both devices.

Tim

[René Sterental]

I love my Garmin 820. Have even added a number of the 3rd party fields that are now being offered, that make for a very nice and enhanced experience over the standard Garmin arrangement of fields.

I tried the Wahoo a while back connected to my iPhone and gave up on it shortly thereafter. There is a pretty big lag, and there were other usability issues that I couldn't take. Went back to Garmin. I should find mine and offer it for sale cheap.

I'm using the newer Garmin sensors that don't require magnets. I find they work flawlessly, and even though they are only ANT+, Garmin now uploads to a bunch of sites and also updates Apple Health from the iPhone app. There is nothing to mar the frame, they allow for non-standard geometries, as in I was finally able to install the sensors for speed and cadence on my Bike Friday and are very easy to swap between bikes if you want to.

One goes on any of the hubs for speed, and the other goes on the left crank arm for cadence.

René 

[René Sterental]

Forgot to add...

Rather than mount the Garmin 820 on the stem, I'm now mounting it on the Nitto lamp holder where I like it better and I cannot accidentally dislodge it when I straddle the bike and lean to grab something as I was prone to do before.

René 

[Tim Butterfield]

I switched to bluetooth sensor HR strap some time ago when I was tracking HRV using the iThlete iOS app.  When I got my AWOL, I only had a older Garmin 405CX watch at the time.  I decided to keep using the Wahoo app by just adding the older BLUE SC sensor.  I then upgraded from the Polar H7 strap to the Wahoo TICKR X strap.  I use it and the Wahoo iOS app when running as the strap also detects cadence, no foot pod required.  I used that combination for a while on the AOL and liked it.  Since I mainly review data after the exercise, I never noticed a lag.  So, I built on it when I got the AHH in order to use either or both.

Tim

[Tim Butterfield]

I originally had my 820 on the extended mount out front.  But, when I tried to attach the Quad Lock iPhone mount, I couldn't get it centered enough over the stem.  So, I switch the Quad Lock to the front and put the 820 on the stem.  For the few times I was on/off the bike yesterday, I seem to grab the bar just to the left of the devices and never hit the 820.  If I can keep doing that, it might be safe.  :)

Tim

[Reed Kennedy]

Thanks Tim! I'd been considering the Grand Bois tape for a while, but had been hoping to see it or hear a bit more about it before I ordered it up. I think I'll go for it now!

Also nice to hear about the Edge 820. I actually just bought the Edge 520 last weekend. This is what I get for not researching first! Perhaps I'll return it and get the 820...

Best,

Reed

[Tim Butterfield]

Reed,

The 520 isn't bad.  I think DC Rainmaker had been using that for a lot of his testing.  Before you return it, you may want to read the reviews for both and compare them on his site.

Tim

[Reed Kennedy]

Tim,

Good point. I just took a look at his overview of the 820 and it seems like the main differences are more memory and routable maps.

Though the 100mb available on the 520 is tiny by modern standards it is plenty to hold maps of my entire local riding environment and then some. 

Routable maps would be neat, but I generally download routes from RideWithGPS, so maybe I wouldn't use that much either.

So I might be set. The fellow at Performance (where they were on sale last weekend) said I could return it anytime in the first year. So I figure I have a while to figure it out!

Reed

[Surlyprof]

Bringing it back to a little more low-tech approach, I also like to keep my handlebars pretty simple.  

https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/29510899771/in/dateposted-public/

I've thought of using bike computers, gps, or a phone mount but that seems to represent the world I'm trying to leave behind when I'm on the bike.  Besides, if the phone is in the bag (on silent), I can always access it if I'm lost.  Good reason to take a break.  The biggest challenge was figuring out where to mount the mirror where it didn't get in the way of hand position changes and gave me a decent view with a minimum of me in the view.  I don't find myself using it much so I may get rid of it altogether.  The lights are under the basket mounted on Paul Gino light mounts that are mounted on the VO canti rack.  A little harder to reach but the bag doesn't block the light and the lower lights reveal path imperfections ahead of me by casting longer shadows of holes and bumps.  The bell used to be on the bars but I found the stem mount made it easy to flip with my thumb.  Pretty pleased with this evolution although it looks like I could use a re-hemping though.

John "On my way out to enjoy the view from the bars"

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 5:37:23 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:

My Riv Road: Steel, leather, friction shifting ... and a bunch of electronic gear. Even the headlights are electronic. 

What's in *your* cockpit?

–Eric N

[Patrick Kelly]

Finally got around to getting a photo of my cockpit. And a few other new photos, too.

I swapped in a jones h-bar, and sold my choco-moose. I hope it's happy in its new home. The choco just wasn't quite wide enough for me when off-pavement. My current bar is too wide, if anything. I find myself riding stretched out, holding the front part pretty often. I just taped it up the other day. The brake levers were part of my quest to make the braking better, but they don't really make any difference. (The crucial change was the cable housing.) But they look pretty, so I leave them on.

I often put my wallet, keys, whatever in one of those bags on the bar. The speaker is for listening to either music (20%) or an audible book (70%). It took me a little while to figure out the perfect mounting system for the speaker, but this works really well. I can also charge my photo off it. I track (most of) my rides with the ridewithgps app, so I guess that's kinda part of my cockpit. And it provides the audio content for the speaker. :) I do have a gopro, but I don't actually use it much. (My single worthwhile video is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BICjOTVmnkM, but don't watch it, cuz it was made with a surly trucker. :))

cockpit:

https://flic.kr/p/MwTtAm
https://flic.kr/p/MGUp9X

new of bike:

https://flic.kr/p/MzzeN8
https://flic.kr/p/MwTnPG
https://flic.kr/p/MwTqWy