console window manager

[Eva Star]

On previous month some user ask question about console utility at dom0
to move new windows to special virtual desktop. I loss this info :(
Unfortunately, it's impossible to find this utility. As I remember the
name have four-five chars :)

And additional question, how to get the new created window ID from qvm-run ?


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[Andrew David Wong]

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On 12/02/16 12:29, Eva Star wrote:
> On previous month some user ask question about console utility at dom0 to move new windows to special virtual desktop. I loss this info :( Unfortunately, it's impossible to find this utility. As I remember the name have four-five chars :)
>
> And additional question, how to get the new created window ID from qvm-run ?
>
>

For KDE, there's kstart. For Xfce4, you'd have to install something, e.g., devilspie2.

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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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[Eva Star]

On 12/03/2016 02:10 AM, Andrew David Wong wrote:

>> And additional question, how to get the new created window ID from qvm-run ?
>>
>>
> For KDE, there's kstart. For Xfce4, you'd have to install something, e.g., devilspie2.
>

I believe that some other tool available that work with Xfce4. And it's
already available at dom0. When this user wrote about it then I check
and it was there (at dom0 already installeted)

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[Andrew David Wong]

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Oh, really? I would be interested in using that, as well. Please let me know if you find it. :)

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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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[Marek Marczykowski-Górecki]

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On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 03:44:35PM -0800, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> On 12/02/16 15:32, Eva Star wrote:
> > On 12/03/2016 02:10 AM, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> >
> >>> And additional question, how to get the new created window ID from qvm-run ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >> For KDE, there's kstart. For Xfce4, you'd have to install something, e.g., devilspie2.
> >>
> > I believe that some other tool available that work with Xfce4. And it's already available at dom0. When this user wrote about it then I check and it was there (at dom0 already installeted)
> >
>
> Oh, really? I would be interested in using that, as well. Please let me know if you find it. :)

Is that about wmctl or xdotool?

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Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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[Eva Star]

On 12/03/2016 02:50 AM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:

>>>>> And additional question, how to get the new created window ID from qvm-run ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> For KDE, there's kstart. For Xfce4, you'd have to install something, e.g., devilspie2.
>>>>
>>> I believe that some other tool available that work with Xfce4. And it's already available at dom0. When this user wrote about it then I check and it was there (at dom0 already installeted)
>>>
>>
>> Oh, really? I would be interested in using that, as well. Please let me know if you find it. :)
>
> Is that about wmctl or xdotool?

Yes, wmctrl :) thanks :)
It can show all windows `wmctrl 0l`, but how to get id of last window
opened with qvm-run to move it then to the specific desktop?

Looks like very old tool, but hope it work. xdotool not pre-installed
(maybe it's better?)

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[Marek Marczykowski-Górecki]

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On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 02:58:48AM +0300, Eva Star wrote:
> On 12/03/2016 02:50 AM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
>
> > > > > > And additional question, how to get the new created window ID from qvm-run ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > For KDE, there's kstart. For Xfce4, you'd have to install something, e.g., devilspie2.
> > > > >
> > > > I believe that some other tool available that work with Xfce4. And it's already available at dom0. When this user wrote about it then I check and it was there (at dom0 already installeted)
> > > >
> > >
> > > Oh, really? I would be interested in using that, as well. Please let me know if you find it. :)
> >
> > Is that about wmctl or xdotool?
>
> Yes, wmctrl :) thanks :)
> It can show all windows `wmctrl 0l`, but how to get id of last window opened
> with qvm-run to move it then to the specific desktop?

I don't know. Some idea is to run wmctrl before starting an application
and after. Then compare results.

> Looks like very old tool, but hope it work. xdotool not pre-installed (maybe
> it's better?)

xdotool is different - it's more about interacting with windows (mouse,
keyboard etc) than managing windows itself - but can do that too.

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Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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[Jean-Philippe Ouellet]

On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 6:58 PM, Eva Star <eva...@openmailbox.org> wrote:
> xdotool not pre-installed (maybe it's better?)

It will be in a future version:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-core-admin-linux/blob/be1d984364de9641312f56def13b0af27cfe1cd4/rpm_spec/core-dom0-linux.spec#L51

Pulled in as part of a work-in-progress effort to prevent graphical
denial-of-service attacks:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/881