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btdt100

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Mar 22, 2017, 2:16:20 PM3/22/17
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Nunes Confirms There Was "Incidental Surveillance" Of Trump During Obama Administration

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Mar 22, 2017 1:35 PM

It appears Trump may have been right, again.

Two days after FBI director Comey shot down Trump's allegation that Trump was being wiretapped by president Obama before the election, it appears that president Trump may have been on to something because moments ago, the House Intelligence Chairman, Devin Nunes, told reporters that the U.S. intelligence community incidentally collected information on members of President Trump's transition team, possibly including Trump himself, and the information was "widely disseminated" in intelligence reports.

As AP adds, Nunes said that President Donald Trump's communications may have been "monitored" during the transition period as part of an "incidental collection."

Nunes told a news conference Wednesday that the communications appear to be picked up through "incidental collection" and do not appear to be related to the ongoing FBI investigation into Trump associates' contacts with Russia. He says he believes the intelligence collections were done legally, although in light of the dramatic change in the plotline it may be prudent to reserve judgment on how "incidental" it was.

"I recently confirmed that on numerous occasions, the intelligence community collected information on U.S. individuals involved in the Trump transition," Nunes told reporters.

"Details about U.S. persons involved in the incoming administration with little or no apparent foreign intelligence value were widely disseminated in intelligence community reports."

The information was "legally brought to him by sources who thought we should know it," Nunes said, though he provided little detail on the source.

BREAKING!!! Rep Devin Nunes (Intel Cmte Chmn):
There was "Incidental collection" of @realDonaldTrump thru IC surveillance <- BOMBSHELL

Nunes also said that "additional names" of Trump transition officials had been unmasked in the intelligence reports. He indicated that Trump's communications may have been swept up. 

The House Intel Chair said he had viewed dozens of documents showing that the information had been incidentally collected. He said that he believes the information was legally collected.  Nunes said that the intelligence has nothing to do with Russia and that the collection occurred after the presidential election.

Nunes said he briefed House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) on the revelation and will inform the White House later today.  Nunes' statement comes after he and other congressional leaders pushed back on Trump's claims that former President Obama had his "wires tapped" in Trump Tower ahead of the election.

Nunes said Wednesday that it was unclear whether the information incidentally collected originated in Trump Tower.

The revelation comes in the wake of the committee's explosive hearing on Monday, at which FBI Director James Comey confirmed that the bureau has been investigating Russia’s election hacking since July, which includes probing possible coordination between members of Trump’s presidential campaign and Moscow.

The meeting represented the panel’s first open hearing on its investigation into Russia’s election meddling and also featured testimony from NSA Director Adm. Mike Rogers.

Nunes says the communications of Trump associates were also picked up, but he did not name those associates. He says the monitoring mostly occurred in November, December and January. He added that he learned of the collection through "sources" but did not specify those source

Politico adds that Nunes is going to the White House later Wednesday to brief the Trump administration on what he has learned, which he said came from "sources."

Nunes says he is "bothered" by this. Won't say whether or not intel community spied on Trump et. al. But says he is "concerned."

While there are no further details, we look forward to how the media narrative will change as a result of today's latest dramatic development.

    Ragnar

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    Incidental...WTF does that mean?....numbnuts nunes is playing the same game comey did in October....saying nothing

    Ragnar

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    Mar 22, 2017, 2:22:07 PM3/22/17
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    Nazi cunt grasping at straws ....which in a fascists mind they can conduct 15 hearings on nothing...like bensnoozi 

    btdt100

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    Mar 22, 2017, 2:31:27 PM3/22/17
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    Everybody knows the Trump Collusion FAKE NEWS STORY has been promoted so to destroy Trump's presidency and at the least make him ineffective at anything. At the worst, the plan and hope as raggie has certainly expressed is to SCAM an impeachment. The taps were to find ANYTHING that could be twisted and construed to that purpose.  

    YOUR MCCARTHYISM IS BACKFIRING ON YOU AND YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO KNOW IT!!  
     


    btdt100

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    Mar 22, 2017, 2:37:14 PM3/22/17
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    Oh boy, NOW there is going to be a REAL investigation of some REAL crimes. 

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/22/politics/devin-nunes-trump-communications/

    btdt100

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    Mar 22, 2017, 2:44:46 PM3/22/17
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    WANTED BY FBI


    btdt100

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    btdt100

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    Nunz says the new information has been provided to him from whistleblowers from inside the intelligence community.  

    Oh boy. It is backfiring on the democraps.  

      

    RuskieHacker

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    Mar 22, 2017, 3:29:00 PM3/22/17
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    Butthead.....You don't even know what "incidental surveillance" means.  It's a far cry from being "tapped."

    Sit down and count to 10.  Your hysteria will fade.

    Nunes is just trying to placate Trump and in the process casts doubt on his own credibility with how he eagerly ran to the press and didn't even inform the ranking minority member.


    Minister Rebel

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    ROTFWL....DDT does not understand "Incidental" LOL....crow you old cow, He is a russian spy and someone should shoot him for it, alongside the minions that suck his dick all day.

    KCM7Alpha

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    The collections were not related to investigations into Russia and its alleged connections to the Trump campaign.

    Nunes told reporters the collection appeared to be "normal" and "all legally collected foreign intelligence under" the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA.

    Ragnar

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    "everybody"...fear urine drenched and an IQ less than 45.....orange toad is going DOWN! He is going to wish he was back being an asshole on the Apprentice .....the strain will likely kill him early ....good 

    Euwe

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    Mar 22, 2017, 4:16:06 PM3/22/17
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    possibly including Trump himself,

    Exposeposers

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    Mar 22, 2017, 4:16:34 PM3/22/17
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    Gutter slut Russian troll Making shit up again.  The only Fake News is the innocence of Putin puppet Trump being orbited by Russian operatives, traitors, and they will all fall in time, so Fuck Off, troll bot.

    Euwe

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    Mar 22, 2017, 4:21:36 PM3/22/17
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    Trump 
    was
    being wiretapped 
    by president Obama
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    Ragnar

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    She did post Robert Parry....it is good to take a check on the media....we need real journalism now more than ever. ...they are part of the problem the orange rodent ever infested the WH

    PirateLT

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    LMAO...........how many straws do you grasp on any given day?

    I-think4me

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    Mar 22, 2017, 4:49:06 PM3/22/17
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    Incidental...WTF does that mean?....numbnuts nunes is playing the same game comey did in October....saying nothing
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    It means Trump and friends weren't the target. In other words,say the cops are watching a known crack house. The crack house and its occupants are the target.Cops aren't surveillaning Joe, but Joe keeps calling and popping up at the crack house.

    I-think4me

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    Mar 22, 2017, 4:55:28 PM3/22/17
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    Oh boy, NOW there is going to be a REAL investigation of some REAL crimes.
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    1.Nunes is not exactly an impartial observer.
    2.Nunes is talking but he's not saying anything.
    3. Crimes? . "This appears to be all legally collected foreign intelligence under" the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act."

    RuskieHacker

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    PirateLT

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    The amount of straw grasping for fining anything to hang their hat on the lie is crazy ass funny.

    Justice

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    I listened to CNN. Nunes said enough so that republicans who believe rump can take heart. He said:

    He read the reports in the last couple of days and that they were widely distributed.

    He said he just read them.

    He said that trump may have been in the reports.

    He said trump was not listed by name in the reports

    He said people were unmasked and it was widely disseminated. AND

    He said he would not name anyone who had been unmasked.

    He ran to tell the president after holding two emergency press conferences before he got to the whitehouse.

    He slow walked his information to other committee members only after he reported it on air and had spoken with the president.

    Pressure from home because he repeated what Comey said about no info to support the tweets?

    Or Nunes looking for his 15 minutes?

    Minister Rebel

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    Alternative facts...cannot beat em.....DDT has gone over to talk to Keith and ask his for forgiveness.

    Minister Rebel

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    Nunes contradicted himself on whether anything from Trump personally was caught up, initially saying “yes” but then later saying it was merely “possible” that the then president-elect’s communications were incidentally collected.
    • Nunes didn’t specify any officials, aside from Trump, whose communications were collected.
    • Nunes didn’t specify what country the foreign nationals under surveillance belonged to, other than “not Russia.” Given all of the scrutiny on the Trump team’s foreign ties to and business interests in a range of countries like China, it makes a difference which ones he was talking about.
    • Nunes didn’t specify what the calls were about. For all we know, this was just Trump staffers setting up congratulations calls with foreign leaders.
    • Nunes claims to have gotten the information personally from an unspecified source, and had not yet met with FBI director Comey to review the raw intelligence intercepts he was provided. Why would he go public without first consulting spies to see if what he had was actually worth sharing with the public?
    • Nunes said he shared the information with Speaker of the House Paul Ryan and then was going to the White House to brief them, personally, after his presser. Why would you do either of those things before getting input from the intelligence community that could help contextualize the information?
    • Finally, Nunes did not specify if these intercepts were part of an ongoing investigation into a foreign national. If they did, then it’s possible he compromised a US intelligence operation by revealing the existence of the taps publicly.
    Given the lack of crucial information, and Nunes’ failure to speak first with the FBI director, Bakos found the entire decision to go public somewhat confusing.
    “This is cherry-picking information and then releasing it publicly,” she said. “This is not how an investigation should be done.”
    Trump and his allies allies are falsely claiming it supports their wiretapping claim
    One thing that is very clear, however, is that nothing Nunes said vindicates Trump’s claim that Obama wiretapped Trump Tower. Nunes said, explicitly, that “there was not a physical wiretap of Trump Tower. The fact that the collection was “incidental” means that there wasn’t any order to surveil Trump or his associates directly revealed by Nunes’ evidence. And Trump claimed that Obama spied on him during the campaign, while what Nunes’ is describing happened after the election.
    “This does not back up Trump’s claim at all,” Bakos says.

    Lobo

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    For chrissake... even putting aside the absurd nature of the unsourced non-information, Nunes was a member of the Trump campaign and transition. He's part of what's being investigated!

    It's the equivalent of placing Haldeman and Erlichmann in charge of the Watergate investigation, or Oliver North in charge of investigating Iran-Contra, and having them come out to say, "go home, folks. There's nothing to see here!"

    Nunes was a Trump surrogate and still is, as he proved by going to Trump first to discuss the non-information instead of telling his fellow committee members. If he had any credibility at all, he tossed it with this stunt.


    On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 2:16:20 PM UTC-4, btdt100 wrote:

    fedupwithcrybabies

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    According to the article, the crime was the unmasking of the "incidental's" names and the dissemination of them.

    Ragnar

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    Cover up, corruption, criminal, illegitimate government ...fascism 

    btdt100

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    Go shit in your buddies faces.  Incidental surveilance is TAPPED data.  

    Numes was obligated to inform Joe McCarthy before anyone else?  Says who?  You?  What a joke!!  

    btdt100

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    Are you not aware that everyone, every conversation is recorded?  

    btdt100

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    Yes Euwe, incidentally, NOT accidentally.  

    Obama (and Bush)'s extensive history of 'wire tapping' leaders, their staff, the UN, WTO and more https://wikileaks.org/nsa-201602/ 

    3:48 PM - 22 Mar 2017
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    I-think4me

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    Incidental surveilance is TAPPED data.

    Numes was obligated to inform Joe McCarthy before anyone else? Says who? You? What a joke!!

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    Incidental surveillance is when an in untargeted person calls or visits a phone or person who is currently under surveillance. Why is it that Trump and friends keep contacting the ppl our government has deemed in need of surveillance. At a minimum Trump inc needs a better class of associates. Perhaps then they wouldn't be paling around with enemies.

    Ragnar

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    What a fucking harpy....STFU loony skank 

    btdt100

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    Impartial?  Try something else.  

    Nunes is talking a lot, very serious stuff.  You just don't understand it.  

    Fourth Amendment: 

    “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

    From Wikipedia on the FISA Court:  

    In 2011, the Obama Administration secretly won permission from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to reverse restrictions on the National Security Agency's use of intercepted phone calls and e-mails, permitting the agency to search deliberately for Americans' communications in its massive databases. The searches take place under a surveillance program Congress authorized in 2008 under Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Under that law, the target must be a foreigner "reasonably believed" to be outside the United States, and the court must approve the targeting procedures in an order good for one year. But a warrant for each target would thus no longer be required. That means that communications with Americans could be picked up without a court first determining that there is probable cause that the people they were talking to were terrorists, spies or "foreign powers." The FISC also extended the length of time that the NSA is allowed to retain intercepted U.S. communications from five years to six years with an extension possible for foreign intelligence or counterintelligence purposes. Both measures were done without public debate or any specific authority from Congress.[13]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    Go back and relisten to Gowdey's drilling of Comey and note the remarks pertaining to Section 702.  

    Legal? Which what where when?  It certainly is not constitutional and when challenged, would crash before the Supreme Court - unless dems got their own stooges in the court.  

    Why probably not legal?  Because the law says that incidental data of American citizens and their names has to be protected.  They were not. Not only were these people's names and conversations 'tapped' but later sent to hundreds of people within the intel community, They then were leaked to the press.  

    What does 'unmask' mean?  Are you not aware that they collect absolutely every phone conversation of everyone?  To unmask them is to access that specific data and transcribe it.  That is in essence what a wire tap is in the 21st century.  
     - t
    So the implications of what Numes was presented is that someone or more people, went in and captured the phone calls of Trump team people, had it transcribed, and then disseminated in mass.  Note that this stuff revealed today was done post the election.  

    Obama is in deep shit. Very deep shit  



    On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 3:55:28 PM UTC-5, I-think4me wrote:

    Exposeposers

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    But, But, But, the Russian trolls were told it just taped information.....

    herman

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    <<< Nunes was a Trump surrogate and still is, as he proved by going to Trump first to discuss the non-information instead of telling his fellow committee members. If he had any credibility at all, he tossed it with this stunt. >>>

    You can't get much more partisan than this.

    btdt100

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    There is no investigation of Trump or his team.  There is only a witch hunt to try and find something they can impeach him for.  

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.



    Libbies stand for NOTHING.  

    Ragnar

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    He's a fucking traitor fascist...hang the mother fucker

    btdt100

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    PEACE AND PROSPERITY

    Revealed: Intelligence Community Collected and Shared Information about Trump Transition People

    written by adam dick
    wednesday march 22, 2017


    undefined

    Early information arising from a US House of Representatives Intelligence Committee investigation into possible United States government spying on Donald Trump and people associated with him appears to show that information about individuals associated with Trump and his presidential transition was collected through surveillance by, and was widely distributed in, the US intelligence community.

    Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA), chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, told reporters Wednesday that “on numerous occasions the intelligence community incidentally collected information about US citizens involved in the Trump transition” and that “details about US persons associated with the incoming administration — details with little or no apparent foreign intelligence value — were widely disseminated in intelligence community reporting.”

    Nunez also stated in a press release Wednesday that he has “asked the Directors of the FBI, NSA, and CIA to expeditiously comply with my March 15 letter, and to provide a full account of” related surveillance activities.

    Nunes’ discussion of the information being “incidentally collected” and then being widely distributed despite having little or no apparent foreign intelligence value highlights a reason to reject the common claim that people who have done nothing wrong have no reason to worry about mass surveillance. When you allow surveillance to run wild, then information that has nothing to do with the supposed purposes of the surveillance, such as protecting Americans from terrorist attacks, can be easily and frequently swept up and shared.

    It is naïve to believe that none of the people who obtain the surveillance-derived information will then use it to their advantage, even if that results in harm to the people “incidentally” surveilled. It is also naïve to assume that surveillance efforts will not be adjusted here and there to make sure that more of the desired, but definable as “incidentally collected,” information is obtained and shared.

    RuskieHacker

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    OMG.  You are frothing and spitting stupid.  Seriously, sit down and count to 10; nah, maybe 100.



    On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 6:30:17 PM UTC-5, btdt100 wrote:

    Lobo

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    <<There is no investigation of Trump or his team.>>

    Unless you count the investigation being carried out by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

    If you mean the ones being carried out by Trump surrogates in the House and Senate, I agree they're not investigations. They're attempts at whitewashing the attack and collusion scandal, just as the GOP's 9 Benghazi "investigations" were about "bring(ing) down Hillary's numbers".

    Nunes' behavior ought to make it obvious to everyone that if we're ever to get the truth, punish the guilty and make sure it doesn't happen again, a real, non-partisan investigation by a non-congressional committee with full subpoena powers needs to be assembled, along with the appointment of an Independent prosecutor by a panel of judges.

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.>>


    That's nice, but what does it have to do with this? Nunes' hasn't said anything except that somebody possibly told him that maybe some of Trump's people possibly got caught up in some kind of unspecified "incidental surveillance" of someone, sometime, somewhere, by someone or something, but he doesn't have possession of anything, and can't tell his fellow committee members, but he does have to run off to confer with his boss... I mean, with the president. Or something...


    herman

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    ...Trump and his allies are falsely claiming it supports their wiretapping claim

    One thing that is very clear, however, is that nothing Nunes said vindicates Trump’s claim that Obama wiretapped Trump Tower. Nunes said, explicitly, that “there was not a physical wiretap of Trump Tower.” The fact that the collection was “incidental” means there wasn’t any order to surveil Trump or his associates directly revealed by Nunes’s evidence. And Trump claimed that Obama spied on him during the campaign, while what Nunes was describing happened after the election....

    I-think4me

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    Go back and relisten to Gowdey's drilling of Comey and note the remarks pertaining to Section 702.

    Legal? Which what where when? It certainly is not constitutional and when challenged, would crash before the Supreme Court - unless dems got their own stooges in the court.

    Why probably not legal? Because the law says that incidental data of American citizens and their names has to be protected. They were not. Not only were these people's names and conversations 'tapped' but later sent to hundreds of people within the intel community, They then were leaked to the press.

    What does 'unmask' mean? Are you not aware that they collect absolutely every phone conversation of everyone? To unmask them is to access that specific data and transcribe it. That is in essence what a wire tap is in the 21st century.
    - t
    So the implications of what Numes was presented is that someone or more people, went in and captured the phone calls of Trump team people, had it transcribed, and then disseminated in mass. Note that this stuff revealed today was done post the election.

    Obama is in deep shit. Very deep shit
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    LOL you are trying so hard! You don't know what your talking about.
    1.the courts have upheld the act.
    2. Under the law the bar for unmasking is as simple as an analyst needing to know in order to understand what they are looking at.
    3.Schiff said that after speaking with Nunes on Wednesday afternoon, the Republican said that most of the names of American citizens were not “unmasked” in the intelligence reports but that it was still possible to ascertain their identities.

    The only one in deep shit here is your boy and his cronies.

    Lobo

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    <<nothing Nunes said vindicates Trump’s claim that Obama wiretapped Trump Tower.>>

    Precisely.

    Justice

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    DDT and his ilk have conveniently forgotten that rump has accused THE president of a felony punishable by jail time and a ruined reputation.

    They're so used to running him down through lies and innuendo for 8 years, they've forgotten that words have consequences,even when rump says them.

    Minister Rebel

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    I think the shameful acts of some posters are beyond evil, DDT and idiot Weary defending wrong...unbelievable, without a doubt, Russian trolls.

    KCM7Alpha

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    Are you not aware that everyone, every conversation is recorded?
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    Having spent several years working in the intelligence community, I am WELL AWARE what goes on.

    PirateLT

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    Do you think she makes at least min. wage?

    Irie

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    What exactly is it that you think I am defending, goat poker?
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    Euwe

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     Incidental surveilance is TAPPED data.  
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    he did not say trump was surveiled. He may have been a party to a conversation with a person who had a MISA warrant wiretap, but that would raise exactly the questions you're trying to suppress..
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    Euwe

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    your plaintiff cries notwithstanding, he did not even HINT that OBAMA was involved in the incidental, masked tap - even if he did say that there "was a possibility" that trump was on the other end of a tap of someone else.

    btdt100

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    Yea Trump sure did accuse Obama of a felony.  And Obama caught the next plane out of Dodge and has since been hanging in a foreign country that lacks an extradiction treaty.  

    May he enjoy the sunshine as much as we will.  

    Euwe

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    social security? is that 15 dollars an hour now?

    btdt100

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    Ignore them. It is just McCarthyism.  

    btdt100

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    That is being said by another whistleblower at the moment - who has proof.  

    Minister Rebel

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    DDT = Paid rat. Shit eater,

    Lobo

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    <<Yea Trump sure did accuse Obama of a felony.  And Obama caught the next plane out of Dodge and has since been hanging in a foreign country that lacks an extradiction treaty.  >>

    Hawaii?

    Exposeposers

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    Russian trolls are not too geographically skilled.....LMFAO!

    btdt100

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    Good guess but that is not where Obama is.  Try paradise. 

    herman

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    Mar 23, 2017, 7:23:24 PM3/23/17
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    <<< Good guess but that is not where Obama is.  Try paradise. >>>

    Utah?

    Michigan?

    Euwe

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    Mar 23, 2017, 10:05:20 PM3/23/17
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    Hawaii?
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    Ok, I guess.. but Utah too much.

    Lobo

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    Mar 23, 2017, 10:18:30 PM3/23/17
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    <<Ok, I guess.. but Utah too much.>>

    Think so? Well, Alaska 'bout it later.

    Iowa that much...

    Lobo

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    Mar 23, 2017, 10:23:45 PM3/23/17
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    <<Good guess but that is not where Obama is.  Try paradise. >>

    He's in the north Georgia mountains?


    On Thursday, March 23, 2017 at 7:11:26 PM UTC-4, btdt100 wrote:

    Ragnar

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    Mar 23, 2017, 10:26:06 PM3/23/17
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    In Stockton CA hanging with a junkie by the name of Rudy Zuckerman......heaven on Earth 
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