Poll: Majority Opposes Deporting Dreamers

[herman]

So, why are trump and sessions so hell-bent on doing this?

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/05/poll-trump-deporting-daca-dreamers-242343

Voters overwhelmingly support allowing undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children to stay in the country, according to a new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll, placing President Donald Trump’s decision to wind down the controversial Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program at odds with public opinion.

A majority of voters, 58 percent, think these undocumented immigrants, also known as Dreamers, should be allowed to stay and become citizens if they meet certain requirements — a sentiment that goes well beyond the existing DACA program. Another 18 percent think they should be allowed to stay and become legal residents, but not citizens. Only 15 percent think they should be removed or deported from the country.

Support for allowing these immigrants to remain in the U.S. spans across party lines: 84 percent of Democrats, 74 percent of independents and 69 percent of Republicans think they should stay.

“Given the deeply polarizing nature of immigration issues, the broad support for allowing Dreamers to stay in the United States is notable,” said Morning Consult co-founder and Chief Research Officer Kyle Dropp. “Just 24 percent of Republicans, 12 percent of independents and 8 percent of Democrats say that Dreamers should be deported.”

The same holds true for Trump’s electoral base. Two-thirds of self-identified Trump voters think the Dreamers should stay; only 26 percent think they should be deported.

Among voters who say they strongly approve of Trump’s job performance as president, 60 percent think these immigrants should be allowed to stay, compared with only 33 percent who think they should be deported.

The poll was conducted Aug. 31-Sept. 3 and surveyed 1,993 registered voters. The margin of error is plus or minus 2 percentage points.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced Tuesday that the administration would terminate the DACA program in six months if Congress fails to pass legislation to codify protections for undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children who have applied to stay in the country.

The Politico/Morning Consult poll also shows that more than two-thirds of voters, 68 percent, think Dreamers should be given permits to work in the United States. That includes majorities of Democrats (78 percent), Republicans (57 percent) and independents (69 percent).

More broadly, the poll shows voters are supportive of allowing undocumented immigrants to remain in the U.S. if they meet certain obligations. Asked the best way to handle immigrants living in the U.S. illegally, nearly half, 49 percent, think they should be allowed to stay and become citizens if they meet certain requirements. Another 21 percent think they should be allowed to stay and become legal residents, but not citizens. Just 22 percent think they should be deported.

Even among Trump’s base, fewer than half of Republicans (37 percent), Trump voters (39 percent) and those who strongly approve of his job performance (45 percent) think undocumented immigrants should be deported or removed.

Morning Consult is a nonpartisan media and technology company that provides data-driven research and insights on politics, policy and business strategy.

[Mighty Mark]

This country is governed by laws, not polls.

[herman]

Not all laws HAVE to be enforced.

Not all laws have to be enforced in all aspects.

You are aware of something called prosecutorial discretion, right?

[herman]

For example, mark:

Do you think those kids who have served / are serving in our nation's military should be deported?  Or, because they have put their lives and welfare on the line for this nation, they should be allowed to stay here?

[Fritz_da_Cat]

I think Dork should be deported to North Korea where his real loyalties lie. 

On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 8:16:31 PM UTC-7, herman wrote:

For example, mark:

Do you think those kids who have served / are serving in our nation's military should be deported?

[Lobo]

<<So, why are trump and sessions so hell-bent on doing this?>>

For Trump, it's partly about playing to his tiki torch-carrying "base", but mostly about the fact that DACA was an Obama-thing.

Anything Obama did must be undone, in Trump's mind. If this was ancient Egypt, Pharaoh Trump would be defacing Pharaoh Obama's name from all of his cartouches, and his likeness from all of his statues and reliefs. I imagine he has nightmares every night that involve Obama standing in the way of The Donald's "Greatness"...

With Sessions, it's simply a last-ditch effort to preserve the "racial purity" of the United States.

[Mighty Mark]

So we only enforce those laws you alt left fools approve of, is that about it? Not how it works.

[mitchscove]

,,,, and Trump had a 0.75% chance of winning the election.

Once the morons decide what answer they want, they phrase the poll accordingly.

If the poll was phrased as follows:

"Are we a nation of laws passed by Congress and affirmed by the then President, or a free-for-all with laws issued at will by a fascist who happens to occupy the White House as the current Dictator?",

the results would be very different.

On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 10:55:02 PM UTC-4, herman wrote:

[PirateLT]

No worries.  COngress will pass a law that will allow the Dreamers to stay.  The Trump Base will be pissed, but fuck them.

[mitchscove]

If a law goes through Congress and is signed into law, no problem.  That's the way the country's supposed to work. 

[PirateLT]

lol...Yea ok.  I am sure his hardcore base will be cool with that.

Do you know what WOP stood for?

[mitchscove]

When you refer to "hard core base" are you referring to working class whites who historically voted for Democrats before being cold cocked?

Are you referring to Americans who are aghast at the theft of the country's treasure by the Washington elites?  Are you referring to people who don't think the richest counties in the country should be concentrated around the beltway sucking on the government sugar tit?  Seems to me that there is nothing hard core about being an American with American values.

The hard core are the thugs paid by Hillary and Soros to incite violence against those with different viewpoints.  They are the hard core un-Americans.  Knowing the principles this country was founded on is not hard core.  Denial is.

[Mighty Mark]

If congress passes a law, conservatives will have no problem because we believe in enforcing the laws. It is when you have a half black rogue president who ignores the constitution that we have an issue with.

[PirateLT]

A: You are not a conservative
B:  Trumps hard core base WILL have a problem with it, in particular if there is no wall.  Go see Ann Coulter's tweets on the topic.

[Mighty Mark]

A. I am conservative
B. We believe in laws. You and your ignorant ilk do not. We support the President 100%

[PirateLT]

A:  Bullshit.  You support Trump who is NOT a conservative (and now working with the dems).  he is anti free trade and anti free market.
B:  Go read your right wing rags and you will see they will not support Trump if he does not get the wall but allows Dreamers to stay.

[Fritz_da_Cat]

Dork isn't a real American either. 

[Minister Rebel]

Simple...OBAMA....The Orange Fucktard hates all blacks unless it is pussy.

[mitchscove]

Prosecutorial discretion is exercised on a case by case basis ,,, it is not an excuse for nullifying a law passed by the peoples' representatives and signed by the then President.  If you can demonstrate that less than 10% of the applications for discretion were approved, you would have a case.

On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 11:15:16 PM UTC-4, herman wrote:

[mitchscove]

PROSECUTORIAL DISCRETION --- Who's kidding whom

High DACA Approval Rate Raises Amnesty Question

By Jessica Vaughan on April 26, 2013

Statistics from U.S. Citizenship & Immigration Services (USCIS) indicate that the agency is rubber-stamping the applications for the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. They report that 99.5 percent of applicants have been approved, which is well above approval rates for other legal programs, which have fraud and rejection rates in the double digits. This means that the level of fraud could be significant in DACA, which is considered a test run for the much larger amnesty included in the Schumer-Rubio immigration bill.

While USCIS approved 29,793 applications in the first six weeks of the program, it denied just six applications, or one out of every 5,000. But in March, the agency approved about 98.2 percent, meaning it denied nine out of every 500 applications. Today, the approval rate stands at 99.5 percent. See the USCIS report here.

In contrast, the State Department reported an approval rate of 87 percent for immigrant visa applicants at consulates overseas in 2012.

https://cis.org/Vaughan/High-DACA-Approval-Rate-Raises-Amnesty-Questions

On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 11:15:16 PM UTC-4, herman wrote:

[Justice]

Listening to bernie last night on colbert,DACA passed the house and then passed the senate with 55 votes and then bearegard got up and filibustered against it, and so the senate didn't pass it.

And now the worm was given the privilege to thumb his nose at the kenyan. Nasty little infection as deadly as ebola is now our AG. (Not ours, not really, he belongs to the assholes who are proud to be white.)

[PirateLT]

Given Trump is going back to his democrat roots a bit, my guess is something will get through Congress and he will sign it and piss off his core base.  Win-win.

[Mighty Mark]

Now I realize all you commies hate laws that restrict your ability to do what ever the fuck you want, like fucking sheep, but we are a country of laws. Don't like it, you can always move to a deserted island where you can do what ever get you all hard and wet.

[Minister Rebel]

Not so Dumbshit, Groperts are always breaking the law, One just got caught fucking a criminal in the back of her car, Got anything to say on that ?