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To me this is just another example of a sport for danger addicts which I choose not to pay attention to. I once watched a girl about 6 years old free climb at a popular spot at Carderock. I was amazed and horrified at the same time. If either of my grandchildren start that, I would definitely worry. They both do climbing walls indoors so I hope neither decides to ever get into anything like this.
From: peda...@googlegroups.com [mailto:peda...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Scott
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 9:39 PM
To: Joyce Gearhart <jo...@joycegearhart.com>
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Subject: Re: [pedalers] Incredible Climber Makes History
Ugh!
Not to stir a hornet’s nest, but as the parent of a climber….
First and foremost this guy is an incredible climber, the Yosemite routes he took were 5.12 & 5.13 grades. This is doing Alp d'Huez in an hour and a half - within the reach of mortal athletes but not assured. His toughest climbing is at 5.14c, think top ten on Alp d’Huez. There are less then 100 active climbers over 5.14 in the US, add another 100 or so that are retired or inactive. The scale is more logarithmic than linear at these grades. You will see dozens of people pulling 5.12 routes at Earth Treks on any given night. Sometimes there is a 5.13c route up, not always.
Second, Alex is freakishly smart, really bright.
Finally, while this article hints of it, some coverage of him in the past (60 minutes) does not disclose how many roped practice runs he does before each free solo. About a dozen after he has figured out each crucial move. If you followed the 60 Minutes piece on Alex, you would assume you just jump on any climb you want and go at it…..
Free soloing is controversial. The challenge is that many climbing areas are on private property and owners will cut-off access when/if they hear of free soloing on their property (or any other behavior they do not like). The Park Service is not all that thrilled either. One response has been to limit car passes to the Park to 7 days, so Alex parks his van outside the Park and shuttles in and out with friends. One idea behind 7 days was to deny climbers the practice time for free soloing.
So, while this is a big deal incredibly fast ascent accomplishment, free soloing is not necessarily a form of climbing people want to see grow as the rest of the sport has…..
What do climber’s parents worry about? They’re kid coming home one day and saying they want to try an old route free solo….
There is sort of alternative as well as a few spots in Majorica where climbing over water provides a safer spot to goof. She will attest to the fact that hitting water from 45’ up can hurt but it is the only way down.
To me this is just another example of a sport for danger addicts which I choose not to pay attention to. I once watched a girl about 6 years old free climb at a popular spot at Carderock. I was amazed and horrified at the same time. If either of my grandchildren start that, I would definitely worry. They both do climbing walls indoors so I hope neither decides to ever get into anything like this.
From: peda...@googlegroups.com [mailto:peda...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Scott
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 9:39 PM
To: Joyce Gearhart <jo...@joycegearhart.com>
Cc: Pedalers <peda...@googlegroups.com>; Thursday Pedalers <weekday-...@googlegroups.com>; Book Club <bookpe...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [pedalers] Incredible Climber Makes History
Ugh!
Not to stir a hornet’s nest, but as the parent of a climber….
First and foremost this guy is an incredible climber, the Yosemite routes he took were 5.12 & 5.13 grades. This is doing Alp d'Huez in an hour and a half - within the reach of mortal athletes but not assured. His toughest climbing is at 5.14c, think top ten on Alp d’Huez. There are less then 100 active climbers over 5.14 in the US, add another 100 or so that are retired or inactive. The scale is more logarithmic than linear at these grades. You will see dozens of people pulling 5.12 routes at Earth Treks on any given night. Sometimes there is a 5.13c route up, not always.
Second, Alex is freakishly smart, really bright.
Finally, while this article hints of it, some coverage of him in the pl (60 minutes) does not disclose how many roped practice runs he does before each free solo. About a dozen after he has figured out each crucial move. If you followed the 60 Minutes piece on Alex, you would assume you just jump on any climb you want and go at it…..
Free soloing is controversial. The challenge is that many climbing areas are on private property and owners will cut-off access when/if they hear of free soloing on their property (or any other behavior they do not like). The Park Service is not all that thrilled either. One response has been to limit car passes to the Park to 7 days, so Alex parks his van outside the Park and shuttles in and out with friends. One idea behind 7 days was to deny climbers the practice time for free soloing.
So, while this is a big deal incredibly fast ascent accomplishment, free soloing is not necessarily a form of climbing people want to see grow as the rest of the sport has…..
What do climber’s parents worry about? They’re kid coming home one day and saying they want to try an old route free solo….
There is sort of alternative as well as a few spots in Majorica where climbing over water provides a safer spot to goof. She will attest to the fact that hitting water from 45’ up can hurt but it is the only way down.
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For me, climbing's more about the knots, so I want ropes! (-;
Below is a URL and large quote from news of the most
famous unroped climber's (viz., John BACHAR's) death,
falling, on a well-climbed/-familiar route. (2009-07-05)
(Something that I've thought : "Okay, so you know the
route, you know your ability, ... but do you know that
it will be the odd occasion when a nosey yellowjacket
gets trapped in your clothing and stings ...?)
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After spending 30 years climbing without ropes, the 52-year old Bachar fell to his death on July 5 while climbing a rock formation near his home in Mammoth Lakes, Calif. It was a route he had taken dozens, if not hundreds, of times.
"Some people say that he was doing what he loved to do and they're proud of him for sticking with it," said Eric Waldron, a climbing instructor with Eastern Mountain Sports. "Some people thought ... it was ridiculous. It was inevitable that he was going to fall off eventually."
Bachar began climbing ropeless in the 1980s and was known for his incredible agility and strength. He could do one-arm pull-ups holding a 12.5 pound weight in his other hand. With a shock of blonde hair, shorts and tube socks, he climbed the most difficult rock formations with seeming ease.
Bachar was so sure of his singular ability that in 1981 he issued a challenge: He offered $10,000 to anyone who could keep up with him on a rock for a single day, ropeless.
No one dared.
"He just wanted to push it," said Richard Dena, an amateur boulder climber. "He took it to a level no one had before. I think that's pretty cool."
In an e-mail to ABC News, Bachar's father, John Bachar Jr., described his son's feats as "without peer."
"I've intimately followed every step for 40 years," wrote Bachar Jr. "Can you imagine anyone doing 1.5 MILLION FEET of unroped climbs up to the level of 5.13 difficulty?"
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It's really true. So many people tell me they will not ride on roads because its too dangerous and think I am crazy for doing so.
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He planned for insects? Did the insects know about that and were they in concurrence with his plans?
As to the risk which was pointed out for cyclists, I must admit that I take a risk every time I ride, especially when I ride with cars and more especially when I ride alone with cars which is more often. I could swim in a pool or go to Planet Fitness and reduce my overall risk noticeably (I doubt I would ever break my clavicle twice in a pool or on an elliptical exercise machine).
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