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Dave Clary

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Why experts say a $2 photo from a California junk shop is the ‘holy grail of Western Americana’

By Peter Holley October 15 at 6:00 AM

A portion of a 4×5-inch photo showing Billy the Kid, left, playing croquet in New Mexico in 1878. Discovered in 2010, the photograph is only the second verified image of the notorious outlaw. (Courtesy of Kagin’s)

As legend has it, Billy the Kid was a cold-blooded outlaw and cattle rustler who lived hard and died young.

Less legendary, it turns out, is the fact that the kid — a.k.a. William Bonney — was a player of the popular 19th century British pastime known as croquet.

That’s according to only the second photo ever to be confirmed of the infamous outlaw, whose short life and mysterious death continue to fascinate historians and bewitch investigators.

[One man’s quest to bury the Wild West mystery of Billy the Kid’s death]

The photo, discovered by a collector inside a Fresno, Calif., junk shop in 2010, was purchased for $2 at the time. Since it was recently authenticated by Kagin’s — a San Francisco-based company specializing in Western Americana and Rare Coins — the image’s value has skyrocketed.

“It has been independently appraised at $5 million and it wouldn’t surprise me if we have an offer in that neighborhood in the next couple of days,” David McCarthy, a senior numismatist at Kagin’s, told The Washington Post.

A second photo of Billy the Kid, a 2 x 3-inch tintype portrait taken in 1880 and sold in 2010, went for $2.3 million, according to Kagin’s.

McCarthy noted that the company has already been contacted by three potential buyers about the newest photographic find.

In a statement posted on the company’s Web site, he said the company’s experts were “understandably skeptical” when the photo of Kid surfaced.

“An original Billy the Kid photo is the holy grail of Western Americana,” he said. “We had to be certain that we could answer and verify where, when, how and why this photograph was taken. Simple resemblance is not enough in a case like this – a team of experts had to be assembled to address each and every detail in the photo to ensure that nothing was out of place.”

[Billy the Kid’s former hideout is on the market, and it’s adorably charming]


The full tintype photograph shows notorious outlaw Billy the Kid alongside members of his gang after a wedding in the summer of 1878. (Courtesy of Kagin’s)

The latest photo, a 4 x 5 inch tintype, captures Billy the Kid surrounded by several members of his gang after a wedding, according to Kagin’s. The outlaws are surrounded by friends and family in Chaves County, N.M., in the summer of 1878. The company said a team spent a year dissecting the photo and determining the location, which required investigators to travel to the supposed site where it was taken.

“We found the old lumber underneath,” Jeff Aiello, who directed a National Geographic Channel documentary about the photo, told ABC affiliate KFSN. “We found those exact rock piers are still there.”

According to the company:

Taken just one month after the tumultuous Lincoln County War came to an end, it is a window into the lives of these gunmen as they were still fighting the injustices of a lawless land.  It’s a carefree moment after an important life event – a wedding – which is rich in content, movement and texture.

Aiello told KFSN that the photo is particularly significant because it’s the only known photo of Billy the Kid with his gang, The Regulators, making it a unique piece of American history.

“Like Don Kagin said, it’s the holy grail of not just western photography, it’s the holy grail of photography,” Aiello told KFSN. “It is the rarest photograph in the world and it was found in a Fresno junk shop.”

Legend holds that Billy the Kid was responsible for 21 deaths, one for each year of his life, according to CBS. The New Mexico Tourism Department, however, claims the number is probably less than half that many.

Croquet, now considered a posh British pastime, may appear to be an unlikely sport for a ruthless outlaw, but Liz Larsson from the U.K.’s Croquet Association, told the Guardian that the sport had swept the United States years earlier.

“Croquet became popular in the 1860s because it was the first sport that women could play on the same terms as men, and men and women could play each other,” she said. “It had a huge boost in its popularity.”

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Lynda & James Sánchez

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Good morning all.  Having lived in Lincoln NM for over 40 years, I do know a little about the “kid” and I am just wondering the following.  IF this is a photo of Billy and his gang about a month after the Lincoln Co. War ended ( July of 1878), then why are there no leaves on the trees and why are the participants wearing sweaters?  hmmmmm?  If this was taken in Chavez Co. then it would still be very hot! 
 
Another historian in our area who writes about the LCWar all the time says that since Bill Koch paid 2 million plus for the tintype of Billy there have been many wannnabe photos coming out of the woodwork so is this photo really Billy?  Seems to me after the end of that war that his gang would have wanted to get the hell out of Dodge and not hang around.
 
However, on the positive side of things...at least this is bringing history into view again and many individuals are showing an interest in history, old photos, and the LCW etc.
 
Thoughts???  Lynda
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This is the so-called “croquet photo” that will be the subject Sunday of a two-hour National Geographic TV presentation. In fact, it is all hokum, as are all the preceding Billy wannabe photos. Bob Boze Bell, editor of True West magazine, yesterday gathered statements from about ten “experts,” including me, to expose the croquet photo as another of the countless Billy frauds that have been inflicted on the public. I think BBB intended to post the statements on his blog today.  Bob Utley  

 

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Good morning all.  Having lived in Lincoln NM for over 40 years, I do know a little about the “kid” and I am just wondering the following.  IF this is a photo of Billy and his gang about a month after the Lincoln Co. War ended ( July of 1878), then why are there no leaves on the trees and why are the participants wearing sweaters?  hmmmmm?  If this was taken in Chavez Co. then it would still be very hot! 

 

Another historian in our area who writes about the LCWar all the time says that since Bill Koch paid 2 million plus for the tintype of Billy there have been many wannnabe photos coming out of the woodwork so is this photo really Billy?  Seems to me after the end of that war that his gang would have wanted to get the hell out of Dodge and not hang around.

 

However, on the positive side of things...at least this is bringing history into view again and many individuals are showing an interest in history, old photos, and the LCW etc.

 

Thoughts???  Lynda

 

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So, Bob,  why did you say it was a fraud?  The summer vs. autumn hiding in plain sight reason or__________.
 
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Robert M. Utley

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Oct 15, 2015, 12:14:26 PM10/15/15
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This what I said Lynda:

 

"Aside from lacking any provenance, this photo is from such a long distance that it’s impossible to discern physical attributes, much less facial features. This is simply another of the long chain of want-it-to-be-the-Kid pictures. This one poses even less credibility than its predecessors. We so-called experts have been showered with a flood of Billy pictures that their owners were sure were Billy because they looked like  Billy."

—Bob Utley, author of Billy the Kid: A Short and Violent Life

 

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So, Bob,  why did you say it was a fraud?  The summer vs. autumn hiding in plain sight reason or__________.

 

Lynda

 

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Lynda & James Sánchez

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Oct 15, 2015, 12:46:01 PM10/15/15
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Thanks Bob.  It would be interesting to see what other historians or “experts” say too. 
 
I can’t believe Nat Geo is devoting two hours to this.  It will show on Oct. 18th. 

Robert M. Utley

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Oct 15, 2015, 2:03:51 PM10/15/15
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They all say the same thing as I Lynda. Simply the lack of provenance disqualifies this. NGS has been taken in and made foolish.

 

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Thanks Bob.  It would be interesting to see what other historians or “experts” say too. 

 

I can’t believe Nat Geo is devoting two hours to this.  It will show on Oct. 18th. 

 

Lynda

 

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Lynda & James Sánchez

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Oct 15, 2015, 2:08:20 PM10/15/15
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Yes, I agree, and very foolish indeed for an organization that was once the iconic National Geographic Society.  So sad.  las

Erik Hauge

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Oct 15, 2015, 3:04:26 PM10/15/15
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Maybe the NG isn't so iconic anymore, since Rupert Murdoch took it over.




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Jerry Rogers

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My conscience has been working on me for having deceived the world for so long and I am now confessing that I am Billy the Kid.  I hid out in the Canadian River breaks for 57 years and then fabricated a story about being born in Vega, Texas in 1938, but I can bear the guilt of secrecy no longer and in my very advanced age could use some Koch money. 

 

Jerry Rogers

For personal appearances, autographs, photos, and souvenirs call my agent.

 

 

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Lynda & James Sánchez

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Why Jerry Rogers...I knew there was something different about you, yet familiar too.  You old fox.  Hopefully Koch will find out about you and purchase you for his new, old western town in Colorado.  or is it Wyoming?  Winking smile
 
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Erik Hauge

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Unfortunately, it's in Colorado.             




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Owen Hoffman

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I'm sorry Jerry, I knew Billy. He was a friend of mine, and you are no Billy the Kid!

Owen

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Jerry Rogers

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Oct 15, 2015, 6:47:50 PM10/15/15
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Well Owen,

Might you be Lloyd Bentsen?

JLR

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A portion of a 4×5-inch photo showing Billy the Kid, left, playing croquet in New Mexico in 1878. Discovered in 2010, the photograph is only the second verified image of the notorious outlaw. (Courtesy of Kagin’s)

As legend has it, Billy the Kid was a cold-blooded outlaw and cattle rustler who lived hard and died young.

Less legendary, it turns out, is the fact that the kid — a.k.a. William Bonney — was a player of the popular 19th century British pastime known as croquet.

That’s according to only the second photo ever to be confirmed of the infamous outlaw, whose short life and mysterious death continue to fascinate historians and bewitch investigators.

[One man’s quest to bury the Wild West mystery of Billy the Kid’s death]

The photo, discovered by a collector inside a Fresno, Calif., junk shop in 2010, was purchased for $2 at the time. Since it was recently authenticated by Kagin’s — a San Francisco-based company specializing in Western Americana and Rare Coins — the image’s value has skyrocketed.

“It has been independently appraised at $5 million and it wouldn’t surprise me if we have an offer in that neighborhood in the next couple of days,” David McCarthy, a senior numismatist at Kagin’s, told The Washington Post.

A second photo of Billy the Kid, a 2 x 3-inch tintype portrait taken in 1880 and sold in 2010, went for $2.3 million, according to Kagin’s.

McCarthy noted that the company has already been contacted by three potential buyers about the newest photographic find.

In a statement posted on the company’s Web site, he said the company’s experts were “understandably skeptical” when the photo of Kid surfaced.

“An original Billy the Kid photo is the holy grail of Western Americana,” he said. “We had to be certain that we could answer and verify where, when, how and why this photograph was taken. Simple resemblance is not enough in a case like this – a team of experts had to be assembled to address each and every detail in the photo to ensure that nothing was out of place.”

[Billy the Kid’s former hideout is on the market, and it’s adorably charming]

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Lynda & James Sánchez

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Dave Clary

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Oct 16, 2015, 7:01:06 AM10/16/15
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There is no end of this.  Even after we had beaten down the attempts to dig up Billy’s bones a few years back, one or another network was doing documentaries about the Lincoln Co deppity shurf who started it all; they even flew him to the Cannes film festival to watch his documentary and film another documentary about him at the fest.  And I have heard recent rumblings that somebody will  take a shot at  Billy and his mom’s bones again, justified by new technologies, but a different cast of characters behind it this time.

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My friends, I worked with Jerry Rogers for over 20 years.  I can tell you without a doubt, he is Billy the Kid.  I know this because, every once in a while, he would come out of his office, mount his old horse "Doc Holiday", and ride through the halls of main Interior singing "Yellow Rose of Texas" at the top of his voice.

Well Jerry is a lot of things (all good) but Tex Ritter he is not.

Please give him the money, he can use it for singing lessons!

(gotcha Jerry I couldn't resist!)

Terrie Fajardo


Jerry Rogers

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Nov 2, 2015, 9:27:16 AM11/2/15
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Wanna buy a photograph?

JLR

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A portion of a 4×5-inch photo showing Billy the Kid, left, playing croquet in New Mexico in 1878. Discovered in 2010, the photograph is only the second verified image of the notorious outlaw. (Courtesy of Kagin’s)

As legend has it, Billy the Kid was a cold-blooded outlaw and cattle rustler who lived hard and died young.

Less legendary, it turns out, is the fact that the kid — a.k.a. William Bonney — was a player of the popular 19th century British pastime known as croquet.

That’s according to only the second photo ever to be confirmed of the infamous outlaw, whose short life and mysterious death continue to fascinate historians and bewitch investigators.

[One man’s quest to bury the Wild West mystery of Billy the Kid’s death]

The photo, discovered by a collector inside a Fresno, Calif., junk shop in 2010, was purchased for $2 at the time. Since it was recently authenticated by Kagin’s — a San Francisco-based company specializing in Western Americana and Rare Coins — the image’s value has skyrocketed.

“It has been independently appraised at $5 million and it wouldn’t surprise me if we have an offer in that neighborhood in the next couple of days,” David McCarthy, a senior numismatist at Kagin’s, told The Washington Post.

A second photo of Billy the Kid, a 2 x 3-inch tintype portrait taken in 1880 and sold in 2010, went for $2.3 million, according to Kagin’s.

McCarthy noted that the company has already been contacted by three potential buyers about the newest photographic find.

In a statement posted on the company’s Web site, he said the company’s experts were “understandably skeptical” when the photo of Kid surfaced.

“An original Billy the Kid photo is the holy grail of Western Americana,” he said. “We had to be certain that we could answer and verify where, when, how and why this photograph was taken. Simple resemblance is not enough in a case like this – a team of experts had to be assembled to address each and every detail in the photo to ensure that nothing was out of place.”

[Billy the Kid’s former hideout is on the market, and it’s adorably charming]

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Rick Smith

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Nov 2, 2015, 9:30:07 AM11/2/15
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Only if you are playing croquet.
 
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Lynda & James Sánchez

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hmmmmm, nice to see a touch of humor to the photo debacle.  Nothing new yet.  True West is collaborating with some of us and should have a major article for their February edition.
 
The mystery of the photo may be solved or sold by then?
 
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larry henderson

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I understand that the upper ranks of the NPS quietly referred to Jerry as "William the Younger" rather than Billy the Kid as best fit his societal rank! LH

 


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Robert M. Utley

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Nov 2, 2015, 10:39:23 AM11/2/15
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To anyone who knew the least about the subject, the croquet photo never was a mystery.

 

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hmmmmm, nice to see a touch of humor to the photo debacle.  Nothing new yet.  True West is collaborating with some of us and should have a major article for their February edition.

 

The mystery of the photo may be solved or sold by then?

 

Lynda

 

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Lynda & James Sánchez

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One would think, but there is major discussion still on going and the couple says they told the truth....
 
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Robert M. Utley

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Nov 2, 2015, 10:46:46 AM11/2/15
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Today everyone is laughing at Jerry Rogers. I could tell a few laughable ones about him. Just one, though. He was brand new in the Office of Archeology and Historic Preservation. We were all pretty new trying to set that up. Once at a meeting of top staff, we were wrestling with a difficult issue. Ernest Connally, the boss, sent for Jerry. He came in and sat at the table. After a moment of silence in which Jerry tried to figure out why he had been summoned, Connally said, “Jerry, make us laugh.” He did, and we broke the logjam. Maybe he’ll tell us about his experience with Sec. 106 and Smoky Moore.

 

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I understand that the upper ranks of the NPS quietly referred to Jerry as "William the Younger" rather than Billy the Kid as best fit his societal rank! LH

 


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Jerry Rogers

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My rank at the time Bob mentions was green beginner, everyone in the room was ranks above me and Connally, who was my boss’s boss’s boss, began his request with “Jerry, my lad…”

 

In 1967 or 68 NPS Archaeologist Smoky Moore and I were sent to handle one of the earliest Sec 106 cases at Grand Portage National Monument north of Duluth, MN.  There were various adventures on that trip, so I will select this one to share.  Wanting a drink before dinner and finding no bars, we located a liquor store run by a company called “Duty Free.” Smoky, a rube from Oklahoma and I a rube from West Texas, were accustomed to strange practices imposed by local liquor laws and stranger ones by bootleggers where booze was illegal, so we took only mild note of the fact that no bottles were visible in the store and that after the clerk took our money and had us sign a bright yellow paper he told us to get in our car and follow his pickup.  The guy drove a short distance, stopped, walked back, and stuck a bottle into our hands and pointed ahead with instructions to drive that way.  Not wanting any trouble we did as we were told and found ourselves in Manitoba.

 

Wondering what had just happened, we finally decided to read the bright yellow paper we had signed, and in big letters saw “Warning!  This product is for immediate export into Canada only and may not be returned to the United States.”   After thoughtful analysis of whether we might be able to drive back to a restaurant in Grand Portage after chugging a fifth of bourbon, we approached the US border still Har Haring aloud over how terrifically funny the whole situation was.  An unsmiling customs official said “I never know whether to believe you guys or not,” but took our tax money and allowed us through, bottle and all, probably saving several lives on the short stretch of highway back to the restaurant.

 

Smoky himself was a Chippewa but we had been oblivious to the fact that we were on the Grand Portage Chippewa  Reservation where liquor sales are prohibited in order to save the locals from people like Smoky and me.

 

I still have that yellow paper as a reminder to buy from stores called “Last Chance,” “Saints and Sinners,””Dirty Dan’s,” or even “Devil’s Den,” but to stay away from that outfit called “Duty Free.”

 

JLR

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A portion of a 4×5-inch photo showing Billy the Kid, left, playing croquet in New Mexico in 1878. Discovered in 2010, the photograph is only the second verified image of the notorious outlaw. (Courtesy of Kagin’s)

As legend has it, Billy the Kid was a cold-blooded outlaw and cattle rustler who lived hard and died young.

Less legendary, it turns out, is the fact that the kid — a.k.a. William Bonney — was a player of the popular 19th century British pastime known as croquet.

That’s according to only the second photo ever to be confirmed of the infamous outlaw, whose short life and mysterious death continue to fascinate historians and bewitch investigators.

[One man’s quest to bury the Wild West mystery of Billy the Kid’s death]

The photo, discovered by a collector inside a Fresno, Calif., junk shop in 2010, was purchased for $2 at the time. Since it was recently authenticated by Kagin’s — a San Francisco-based company specializing in Western Americana and Rare Coins — the image’s value has skyrocketed.

“It has been independently appraised at $5 million and it wouldn’t surprise me if we have an offer in that neighborhood in the next couple of days,” David McCarthy, a senior numismatist at Kagin’s, told The Washington Post.

A second photo of Billy the Kid, a 2 x 3-inch tintype portrait taken in 1880 and sold in 2010, went for $2.3 million, according to Kagin’s.

McCarthy noted that the company has already been contacted by three potential buyers about the newest photographic find.

In a statement posted on the company’s Web site, he said the company’s experts were “understandably skeptical” when the photo of Kid surfaced.

“An original Billy the Kid photo is the holy grail of Western Americana,” he said. “We had to be certain that we could answer and verify where, when, how and why this photograph was taken. Simple resemblance is not enough in a case like this – a team of experts had to be assembled to address each and every detail in the photo to ensure that nothing was out of place.”

[Billy the Kid’s former hideout is on the market, and it’s adorably charming]

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Robert M. Utley

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The incident I recalled Jerry was when you and Smoky were sitting around a campfire with you trying to explain to the Chippewa chiefs what Sec. 106 was all about. You were making no headway and looked intently at Smoky with an appeal for help in communicating such white-man foolishness to these old chiefs. Smoky just rolled his eyes and left it to you.

 

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My rank at the time Bob mentions was green beginner, everyone in the room was ranks above me and Connally, who was my boss’s boss’s boss, began his request with “Jerry, my lad…”

 

In 1967 or 68 NPS Archaeologist Smoky Moore and I were sent to handle one of the earliest Sec 106 cases at Grand Portage National Monument north of Duluth, MN.  There were various adventures on that trip, so I will select this one to share.  Wanting a drink before dinner and finding no bars, we located a liquor store run by a company called “Duty Free.” Smoky, a rube from Oklahoma and I a rube from West Texas, were accustomed to strange practices imposed by local liquor laws and stranger ones by bootleggers where booze was illegal, so we took only mild note of the fact that no bottles were visible in the store and that after the clerk took our money and had us sign a bright yellow paper he told us to get in our car and follow his pickup.  The guy drove a short distance, stopped, walked back, and stuck a bottle into our hands and pointed ahead with instructions to drive that way.  Not wanting any trouble we did as we were told and found ourselves in Manitoba.

 

Wondering what had just happened, we finally decided to read the bright yellow paper we had signed, and in big letters saw “Warning!  This product is for immediate export into Canada only and may not be returned to the United States.”   After thoughtful analysis of whether we might be able to drive back to a restaurant in Grand Portage after chugging a fifth of bourbon, we approached the US border still Har Haring aloud over how terrifically funny the whole situation was.  An unsmiling customs official said “I never know whether to believe you guys or not,” but took our tax money and allowed us through, bottle and all, probably saving several lives on the short stretch of highway back to the restaurant.

 

Smoky himself was a Chippewa but we had been oblivious to the fact that we were on the Grand Portage Chippewa  Reservation where liquor sales are prohibited in order to save the locals from people like Smoky and me.

 

I still have that yellow paper as a reminder to buy from stores called “Last Chance,” “Saints and Sinners,””Dirty Dan’s,” or even “Devil’s Den,” but to stay away from that outfit called “Duty Free.”

 

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A portion of a 4×5-inch photo showing Billy the Kid, left, playing croquet in New Mexico in 1878. Discovered in 2010, the photograph is only the second verified image of the notorious outlaw. (Courtesy of Kagin’s)

As legend has it, Billy the Kid was a cold-blooded outlaw and cattle rustler who lived hard and died young.

Less legendary, it turns out, is the fact that the kid — a.k.a. William Bonney — was a player of the popular 19th century British pastime known as croquet.

That’s according to only the second photo ever to be confirmed of the infamous outlaw, whose short life and mysterious death continue to fascinate historians and bewitch investigators.

[One man’s quest to bury the Wild West mystery of Billy the Kid’s death]

The photo, discovered by a collector inside a Fresno, Calif., junk shop in 2010, was purchased for $2 at the time. Since it was recently authenticated by Kagin’s — a San Francisco-based company specializing in Western Americana and Rare Coins — the image’s value has skyrocketed.

“It has been independently appraised at $5 million and it wouldn’t surprise me if we have an offer in that neighborhood in the next couple of days,” David McCarthy, a senior numismatist at Kagin’s, told The Washington Post.

A second photo of Billy the Kid, a 2 x 3-inch tintype portrait taken in 1880 and sold in 2010, went for $2.3 million, according to Kagin’s.

McCarthy noted that the company has already been contacted by three potential buyers about the newest photographic find.

In a statement posted on the company’s Web site, he said the company’s experts were “understandably skeptical” when the photo of Kid surfaced.

“An original Billy the Kid photo is the holy grail of Western Americana,” he said. “We had to be certain that we could answer and verify where, when, how and why this photograph was taken. Simple resemblance is not enough in a case like this – a team of experts had to be assembled to address each and every detail in the photo to ensure that nothing was out of place.”

[Billy the Kid’s former hideout is on the market, and it’s adorably charming]

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