Roads with cycleway=track not usable by cars

[Malcolm Morgan]

Hi OTP Devs,

I'm using OTP in the UK and I have lots of roads with the tag cycleway=track,

E.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=16/53.2166/-0.5939

These are normal roads but OTP says that cars don't have permission (see debug layer attached)

Is this a but in OTP or a problem with my config?

Thanks,

Malcolm

[Malcolm Morgan]

In fact, is seems that any cycleway tag closes the road to cars

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/35951960 

[Tuukka Hastrup]

Indeed, this looks like a bug to me. highway=cycleway would mean that the path is not usable by cars, but cycleway=* just describes the (additional) bicycle lanes that are part of the path. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:cycleway

Quoting from https://github.com/opentripplanner/OpenTripPlanner/blob/master/src/main/java/org/opentripplanner/graph_builder/module/osm/DefaultWayPropertySetSource.java.

Unclassified roads should be permissible for all:

 props.setProperties("highway=unclassified", StreetTraversalPermission.ALL, 1, 1);

But then there's a variety of cycleway= values that remove the permission from cars:

props.setProperties("highway=*;cycleway=lane", StreetTraversalPermission.PEDESTRIAN_AND_BICYCLE, 0.87, 0.87);

props.setProperties("highway=*;cycleway=share_busway", StreetTraversalPermission.PEDESTRIAN_AND_BICYCLE, 0.92, 0.92);

props.setProperties("highway=*;cycleway=opposite_lane", StreetTraversalPermission.PEDESTRIAN_AND_BICYCLE, 1.0, 0.87);

props.setProperties("highway=*;cycleway=track", StreetTraversalPermission.PEDESTRIAN_AND_BICYCLE, 0.75, 0.75);

props.setProperties("highway=*;cycleway=opposite_track", StreetTraversalPermission.PEDESTRIAN_AND_BICYCLE, 1.0, 0.75);

props.setProperties("highway=*;cycleway=shared_lane", StreetTraversalPermission.PEDESTRIAN_AND_BICYCLE, 0.77, 0.77);

props.setProperties("highway=*;cycleway=opposite", StreetTraversalPermission.PEDESTRIAN_AND_BICYCLE, 1.0, 1.4);

Then there's bicycle=designated, which is handled in a different way:

props.setProperties("highway=*;bicycle=designated", StreetTraversalPermission.ALL, 0.97, 0.97);

props.setProperties("highway=unclassified;bicycle=designated", StreetTraversalPermission.ALL, 0.95, 0.95);

Perhaps there are legacy or regional reasons for this handling of cycleway=*? (E.g. in Helsinki, I notice we use cycleway:right=* more.)

Regards,
Tuukka

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[Nikhil VJ]

Hi, can anyone share what the two numbers at the end of these lines stand for?

Example: 

props.setProperties("highway=*;cycleway=share_busway", StreetTraversalPermission.PEDESTRIAN_AND_BICYCLE, 0.92, 0.92);

Here, what does "0.92" mean? What effect does changing these numbers have? Is it some kind of weightage? 

Regards

Nikhil

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[Nicolai Mogensen]

Hi Nikhil,

As i understand it the 0.92 is the "BikeSafety". It's a weighted number. There are two numbers, as the safety in direciton "To" or "From" can be different. How exactly the weighting works i will let others answer. Contradictionary, a low number here means high security.