The New York City Council Committee on Technology is considering holding a hearing on Int. No. 29 (attached) in June, which is an amended version of Int. No. 991-A from last session. The Committee would like your feedback and suggestions for improving this bill.The bill was drafted in order to address an issue with the prior version. The previous version of the bill could be read to require the government to constantly monitor all computer usage and to determine whether or not any data entered would be required to be put online. Obviously, such a requirement would be expensive and time consuming. This version of the bill seeks to more narrowly define exactly which data sets should be made available online, and seeks to avoid any requirement by the City to periodically review the files on individual personal computers, laptops and handheld devices. The bill accomplishes this largely by narrowly defining “data,” “data set,” and “public data set.”
Please review the bill and let us know if there is any way we could improve it.
If you know anyone else who may be interested in reviewing the bill, please feel free to forward it to them.
If you have any questions about the bill, or would like to make comments, please contact me at jtb...@council.nyc.gov or at 212-788-9193.
Thank you,
Jeffrey Baker
Council to the Committee on Technology
New York City Council
250 Broadway, 14th Floor
New York, NY 10007
"e. All public data sets shall be made available without any
registration requirement, license requirement or restrictions on their
use."
Does this mean that there are intentions for the data to be placed in
the public domain? E.g. using CC0 or PDDL? If so it would be great to
explicitly state this!
All the best,
Jonathan
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While using a tool like CC0 or PDDL is one good way to do this, a
legal statement to the effect that there are no restrictions on reuse
would be better than nothing. Whatever the mechanism, it would ideally
be compliant with things like:
http://www.opendefinition.org/okd/
My 2c is that it would be valuable to have something (very basic)
along these lines in the bill at the outset - to eliminate possible
ambiguity later on. E.g. public bodies wanting to restrict commercial
reuse.
All the best,
Jonathan
Hi Jonathan, In response to your question, as a list administrator I've received a email from an individual which has requested anonymity. Their take on your question is as follows - Best, Lou --- I do not specialize in copyright law, so my understanding of the subject may be flawed, however, I believe that �raw data� cannot be copyrighted under�US�law. �What remains is a thin layer of copyright protection for qualifying databases. In order to qualify, they must exhibit some modicum of creativity in the selection, arrangement, or coordination of the data. The protection is thin in that only the creative elements (selection, arrangement, or coordination of data) are protected by copyright. Explanatory materials such as introductions or footnotes to databases may also be copyrightable. But in no case is the data itself (as distinguished from its selection, coordination or arrangement) copyrightable.� -- Statement of David O. Carson,�General�Counsel,�United States�Copyright Office,�September 23, 2003 http://www.copyright.gov/docs/regstat092303.html I cannot say at this time how much creativity in the selection, arrangement, or coordination of the data NYC data sets will have.� My guess would be: very little.� A �white pages� style phone book, for example, is not copyrightable.��Feist Publications, Inc. v. Rural Telephone Service Co., 499�U.S.�340 (1991).�http://www.law.cornell.edu/copyright/cases/499_US_340.htm. To the extent that NYC databases are copyrighted, this bill will NOT put them in the public domain.� I do not anticipate that this will be a problem. On May 29, 2010, at 5:35 AM, Jonathan Gray wrote: Thanks for this! "e. All public data sets shall be made available without any registration requirement, license requirement or restrictions on their use." Does this mean that there are intentions for the data to be placed in the public domain? E.g. using CC0 or PDDL? If so it would be great to explicitly state this! All the best, Jonathan On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Lou Klepner <lkle...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi folks, A revised bill is under way to mandate that NYC Government data be made available to public. I hope list members will take a moment to review and comment on the revised bill, a draft of which can be found in the attached Word doc. Best, Lou From Jeffrey Baker: The New York City Council Committee on Technology is considering holding a hearing on Int. No. 29 (attached) in June, which is an amended version of Int. No. 991-A from last session.� The Committee would like your feedback and suggestions for improving this bill. The bill was drafted in order to address an issue with the prior version. The previous version of the bill could be read to require the government to constantly monitor all computer usage and to determine whether or not any data entered would be required to be put online.� Obviously, such a requirement would be expensive and time consuming.� This version of the bill seeks to more narrowly define exactly which data sets should be made available online, and seeks to avoid any requirement by the City to periodically review the files on individual personal computers, laptops and handheld devices.� The bill accomplishes this largely by narrowly defining �data,� �data set,� and �public data set.� Please review the bill and let us know if there is any way we could improve it. If you know anyone else who may be interested in reviewing the bill, please feel free to forward it to them. If you have any questions about the bill, or would like to make comments, please contact me at jtb...@council.nyc.gov or at 212-788-9193. Thank you, Jeffrey Baker Council to the Committee on Technology New York City Council 250 Broadway, 14th Floor New York, NY 10007 212-788-9193 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Open Government NYC" group. To post to this group, send email to open-gove...@googlegroups.com.. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
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Hello,
My apologies if you receive this twice.�
A revised bill is under way to mandate that NYC Government data be made available to public.�I hope list members will take a moment to review and comment on this latest attempt at transparency at the city level, a draft of which can be found in the attached Word doc.
Best,Lou
From Jeffrey Baker:�
The New York City Council Committee on Technology is considering holding a hearing on Int. No. 29 (attached) in June, which is an amended version of Int. No. 991-A from last session.� The Committee would like your feedback and suggestions for improving this bill.
The bill was drafted in order to address an issue with the prior version.� The previous version of the bill could be read to require the government to constantly monitor all computer usage and to determine whether or not any data entered would be required to be put online.� Obviously, such a requirement would be expensive and time consuming.� This version of the bill seeks to more narrowly define exactly which data sets should be made available online, and seeks to avoid any requirement by the City to periodically review the files on individual personal computers, laptops and handheld devices.� The bill accomplishes this largely by narrowly defining �data,� �data set,� and �public data set.�
Please review the bill and let us know if there is any way we could improve it.
If you know anyone else who may be interested in reviewing the bill, please feel free to forward it to them.
If you have any questions about the bill, or would like to make comments, please contact me at�jtb...@council.nyc.gov�or at 212-788-9193.
�
Thank you,
�
Jeffrey Baker
Council to the Committee on Technology
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RE: Int. No. 29 - A Local Law to amend the administrative code of the city of New York, in relation to creating open data standards.
Please be advised that the Committee on Technology will hold a hearing on Monday, June 21, 2010 at 10:00 a.m. in the 16th Floor Hearing Room, 250 Broadway, New York, NY regarding the above-referred topic.
You can view the bill online at:
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Phil
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Hello,
My apologies if you receive this twice.
A revised bill is under way to mandate that NYC Government data be made available to public. I hope list members will take a moment to review and comment on this latest attempt at transparency at the city level, a draft of which can be found in the attached Word doc.
Best,Lou
From Jeffrey Baker:
The New York City Council Committee on Technology is considering holding a hearing on Int. No. 29 (attached) in June, which is an amended version of Int. No. 991-A from last session. The Committee would like your feedback and suggestions for improving this bill.The bill was drafted in order to address an issue with the prior version. The previous version of the bill could be read to require the government to constantly monitor all computer usage and to determine whether or not any data entered would be required to be put online. Obviously, such a requirement would be expensive and time consuming. This version of the bill seeks to more narrowly define exactly which data sets should be made available online, and seeks to avoid any requirement by the City to periodically review the files on individual personal computers, laptops and handheld devices. The bill accomplishes this largely by narrowly defining “data,” “data set,” and “public data set.”
Please review the bill and let us know if there is any way we could improve it.
If you know anyone else who may be interested in reviewing the bill, please feel free to forward it to them.
If you have any questions about the bill, or would like to make comments, please contact me at jtb...@council.nyc.gov or at 212-788-9193.
Thank you,
Jeffrey Baker
Council to the Committee on Technology
New York City Council
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