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Ian D. Parson

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Sep 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/15/95
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Why should they e-mail you when maybe we would all like to know the sources?

Blair Boyle (bbo...@ftn.net) wrote:
: Tonight's CFTO News in Toronto indicated that someone had posted information
: onto the Internet about obtaining illegal Canadian Immigration Documents and
: text information on how to "beat the system" including Welfare.

: Does anyone know WHAT they are referring to and WHERE it can be viewed or
: obtained???

: I have just successfully completed a 5 year immigration battle with Canada
: Immigration and was curious about what information they said was being
: circulated...

: PLEASE REPLY VIA EMAIL TO ONE OF THE ADDRESSES BELOW, Thanks!

: bbo...@frontier.canrem.com
: bbo...@ftn.net
: blair...@canrem.com

Blair Boyle

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Sep 16, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/16/95
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In article <43b29k$b...@ionews.io.org> ipa...@twitch.io.org (Ian D. Parson) writes:

>:Blair Boyle (bbo...@ftn.net) wrote:
>: Tonight's CFTO News in Toronto indicated that someone had posted information
>: onto the Internet about obtaining illegal Canadian Immigration Documents and
>: text information on how to "beat the system" including Welfare.
>: Does anyone know WHAT they are referring to and WHERE it can be viewed or
>: obtained???
>: I have just successfully completed a 5 year immigration battle with Canada
>: Immigration and was curious about what information they said was being
>: circulated...
>: PLEASE REPLY VIA EMAIL TO ONE OF THE ADDRESSES BELOW, Thanks!

>Why should they e-mail you when maybe we would all like to know the sources?

Maybe you better read the original message AGAIN. I believe I said ILLEGAL
Immigration Documents... yep, that's right, that IS what I said... I'm curious
to see EXACTLY what they were referring to... I'm NOT condoning OR encouraging
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!!! There are TOO MANY already!!!

Britton Steven C

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Sep 16, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/16/95
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Blair Boyle (bbo...@ftn.net) wrote:

: Maybe you better read the original message AGAIN. I believe I said ILLEGAL

: Immigration Documents... yep, that's right, that IS what I said... I'm curious
: to see EXACTLY what they were referring to... I'm NOT condoning OR encouraging
: ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!!! There are TOO MANY already!!!

It's things like this that make the governments want to censor the
internet. If we want the 'net to stay free and clear of censorship, we
all have to start showing some responsibility and not posting messages
like these and/or the information that you are after.

--
**************************************** Steven C. Britton
* Member: Reform Party of Canada * brit...@cuug.ab.ca
****************************************
Virtual Admiral Beaker McNugget and his Amazing Elbow Sparky

Karl Pollak

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Sep 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/18/95
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brit...@cuug.ab.ca (Britton Steven C) wrote:

>It's things like this that make the governments want to censor the
>internet. If we want the 'net to stay free and clear of censorship, we
>all have to start showing some responsibility and not posting messages
>like these and/or the information that you are after.

>--
>**************************************** Steven C. Britton
>* Member: Reform Party of Canada * brit...@cuug.ab.ca
>****************************************

Curious thought. No government in Canada expressed any burning desire to
censor any of the traffic on the InterNet. Some Deformed MPs in Ottawa
have made rather loud calls for such censorship, but not governments.


Karl Pollak
Bottom Line Productions Canadian Infomaticon BBS,
Richmond, British Columbia Fido 1:153/965 (604) 275-9579


Larry Phillips

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Sep 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/18/95
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In article <DF0GK...@cuug.ab.ca>, brit...@cuug.ab.ca says...

>It's things like this that make the governments want to censor the
>internet. If we want the 'net to stay free and clear of censorship, we
>all have to start showing some responsibility and not posting messages
>like these and/or the information that you are after.

Let me see if I have this straight... if I was to be able to say anything I
want, I better not say anything that the government disagrees with, or they'll
stop me from saying it.

>**************************************** Steven C. Britton
>* Member: Reform Party of Canada * brit...@cuug.ab.ca
>****************************************

What a shame. The Reform Party is the closest, of all parties having any
representation in parliament at all, to my political views, but you are a
disgrace to the party, and a good argument for completely changing the
system, instead of those currently representing us.

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David Jones

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Sep 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/18/95
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In article <43j307$d...@sulla.cyberstore.ca>,

Larry Phillips <la...@casper.tvinet.com> wrote:
>In article <DF0GK...@cuug.ab.ca>, brit...@cuug.ab.ca says...

>>It's things like this that make the governments want to censor the
>>internet. If we want the 'net to stay free and clear of censorship, we
>>all have to start showing some responsibility and not posting messages
>>like these and/or the information that you are after.

>Let me see if I have this straight... if I was to be able to say anything I
>want, I better not say anything that the government disagrees with, or they'll
>stop me from saying it.

>>**************************************** Steven C. Britton
>>* Member: Reform Party of Canada * brit...@cuug.ab.ca
>>****************************************

>What a shame.


I certainly hope Steven Britton is not expressing the views of
the Reform Party. If any political party needs Charter protection
for the right to express controversial ideas, it is the Reform Party.
In fact, I've heard Preston Manning express precisely this notion.


Eli W. Rockmell

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Sep 20, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/20/95
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In article <43mbmi$j...@steel.interlog.com>,
bapt...@gold.interlog.com (Joe Baptista) wrote:
>Does anyone actually have this article? I'd love to see it - if
it's >good I may provide a repository space for it.
>

I bet it doesn't exist, and never did. Bullsh*t hype to eventually
win public (cyber-clutz's) support to legislate the net.

Bill C-68 all over again.


Eli W. Rockmell

Hi Ho


sh...@fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca

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Sep 20, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/20/95
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Britton Steven C (brit...@cuug.ab.ca) wrote:
: Blair Boyle (bbo...@ftn.net) wrote:

: : Maybe you better read the original message AGAIN. I believe I said ILLEGAL
: : Immigration Documents... yep, that's right, that IS what I said... I'm curious
: : to see EXACTLY what they were referring to... I'm NOT condoning OR encouraging
: : ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!!! There are TOO MANY already!!!

: It's things like this that make the governments want to censor the

: internet. If we want the 'net to stay free and clear of censorship, we
: all have to start showing some responsibility and not posting messages
: like these and/or the information that you are after.

I have not read the original message. But I have read a while ago a message
which referred to Canada being the golden land, and what a potential
immigrant would have to do to become a resident here.

It seems to me that what you are saying is: "If you want to avoid censure of
the Internet, you better step carefully and do not state anything that
people in government don't like to hear!"

The last time I looked, we still had free speech here. That's a right, not
a privilege which we have to be afraid to have to give up.

Lastly, we should be more concerned about the people in Government being
public servants, our servants, even though they do so often appear to be our
masters.

--
Walter H. Schneider Bruderheim, Alberta, Canada

Ian D. Parson

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Sep 21, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/21/95
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Ian D. Parson (ipa...@pinch.io.org) wrote:
: And I thought they were talking about:


Mon, 01 May 1995 19:16:11 misc.immigration.canada Thread 19 of 19
New Business Startup Programs
dav...@io.org Dave Williams at Internex Online

Are you an immigrant from any of the categories
(Entrepreneur, Independent, Family Class, or Sponsored,)
or a refugee who is interested in starting your own
business here in Canada?

There are many hard to find Federal and provincial
programmes specifically designed to provide you with
financing, additional financing, and free training
programs for your business, if you are a woman or
visible minority. Most of these programmes are
specifically for "multicultural/ethnocultural"
business or for immigrants. There are even a few
large cities who have municipal Community Economic
Development programmes from which you can get grants
(money which never has to be paid back,) to start
your business with.

You can get thousands of dollars in government grants or
loan guarantees to assist you, in addition to many free
training programmes to make your business a success.

Most of these programmes are not well advertised and we
will help you find them and assist you in your proposals
to ensure your acceptance into these programmes.

Just one small example, is the Small Business and Domestic
Operations department, of the Ontario Ministry of
Economic Development and Trade, who have a program called:
the
Target Markets Section,
625 Church Street,
Toronto,
whose goal is to provide loans and free training for new
businesses owned by women, visible minorities and
francophones. This is just one of the possibly as high as
one dozen programmes that you may qualify for to give your
business venture a head start.

For more information on our services, please send e-mail to:
dav...@io.org Williams, Singh and Associates


: Larry Rosen (lar...@li.net) wrote:
: : In article <bboyle.3...@ftn.net>, bbo...@ftn.net (Blair Boyle) wrote:
: : ::In article <43b29k$b...@ionews.io.org> ipa...@twitch.io.org (Ian D.

: : Parson) writes:
: : ::
: : ::>:Blair Boyle (bbo...@ftn.net) wrote:
: : ::>: Tonight's CFTO News in Toronto indicated that someone had posted
: : information
: : ::>: onto the Internet about obtaining illegal Canadian Immigration
: : Documents and
: : ::>: text information on how to "beat the system" including Welfare.
: : ::>: Does anyone know WHAT they are referring to and WHERE it can be viewed
: : or
: : ::>: obtained???
: : ::>: I have just successfully completed a 5 year immigration battle with
: : Canada
: : ::>: Immigration and was curious about what information they said was being
: : ::>: circulated...
: : ::>: PLEASE REPLY VIA EMAIL TO ONE OF THE ADDRESSES BELOW, Thanks!
: : ::
: : ::>Why should they e-mail you when maybe we would all like to know the
: : sources?

: : ::
: : ::Maybe you better read the original message AGAIN. I believe I said

: : ILLEGAL
: : ::Immigration Documents... yep, that's right, that IS what I said... I'm
: : curious
: : ::to see EXACTLY what they were referring to... I'm NOT condoning OR
: : encouraging
: : ::ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!!! There are TOO MANY already!!!

: : I think this may be the article in question. It seems clear to me it was
: : intended as satire.......

: : Here it is:


: : How to get into Canada
: :
: : Are you looking for the land of milk and honey, where you can have a
: : much better life without even working? Then you are looking for
: : CANADA.
: :
: : Even if you are just looking for a "Western" country, or want to get
: : into the United States of America, Canada is a very easy stepping
: : stone to these other countries.
: :
: : Why Canada?
: :
: : Canada has the most generous of all government benefit programs as
: : well as being the easiest country to get into in the whole world.
: :
: : BENEFITS
: : ********
: :
: : As a refugee or "landed immigrant" in Canada you can not run for
: : political office or vote in provincial election, but other than that
: : you are legally entitled to more government benefits than do their own
: : citizens. (It is a pretty good idea when you do get to the country to
: : join one of the mainstream political parties, as it will help you in
: : the future to get high paying political appointments to various
: : government departments and committees.) You can get free housing,
: : free health care, free day-care (for your children,) free education,
: : free money, free food, and all levels of government: federal,
: : provincial and municipal, will fight each other to see who will give
: : you the most. In addition there are religious organization who will
: : give you free help, plus many government funded multicultural (ethnic)
: : groups who will do everything possible to make your life there as easy
: : and prosperous as possible. Ever if you are not a citizen, the
: : government will give you money to start your own multicultural
: : organization to help other people going to Canada. If you do get
: : government funding to set up such a group, you decide what salary to
: : pay yourself, limited only by the size of the government grant.
: :
: : If you want a job, any job, you have advantages over many Canadian
: : citizens, and more rights than white Canadian males. The federal
: : (Canadian) government and many provinces have Employment Equity Laws
: : that set minimum quotas for (ethnic) minorities and women, based upon
: : local statistics. This gives you an advantage in jobs, especially
: : management positions, even if you don't have any experience in that
: : occupation. If you are obviously non-white, you are almost guaranteed
: : a government job, if you want one. Should you not get a job you want,
: : not only can you make a complaint with an Employment Equity Commission
: : you can also go to the provincial and federal Human Rights Commission.
: : There are also many training programs available free of charge to
: : assist you, that are not available to citizens. The government will
: : even give you money to start your own business.
: :
: : Should you decide you don't want to work, but instead receive Welfare
: : or Family Benefits, there is no difficulty in doing so. The more
: : children you have (or claim are yours though they might not be) the
: : more money you will get. They are so liberal in their social services
: : policies, so eager to please, that the administration of these
: : programs is set up so that you can easily falsely register as five or
: : ten or more people and therefore receive five or ten or more times the
: : benefits and never get caught. Many people do this and use the money
: : to purchase their own home, or a multiple unit dwelling they can then
: : rent out to other newcomers.
: :
: : The government benefits you receive are highest in the major urban
: : areas (and their surrounding areas) such as Vancouver (and Richmond,)
: : British Columbia, Toronto (North York, Scarborough, Etobicoke,
: : Mississauga and Bramalea,) Ontario, and in Montreal, Province of
: : Quebec. The government encourages newcomers to settle in these areas,
: : and with the assistance of multicultural (ethnic) organizations, will
: : assist you in doing so.
: :
: : Education is free for your children. If you get enough people from
: : your home country to petition a school to have a "Heritage Language
: : Program" the school will be obliged to teach your children your home
: : language. If the school doesn't already have a teacher who knows that
: : language, they will be obliged to hire one of the parents (or another
: : person) who knows that language and can teach it to the children (and
: : the language teachers does not need to have any teaching or other
: : credentials to do so).
: :
: : EASE OF ENTRY
: : *************
: :
: : Of all the countries in the World, Canada is the easiest in which to
: : become an immigrant. Should you wish to get into the U.S.A., get into
: : Canada first, and then entry into the U.S.A. is easy. With all the
: : benefits due to you upon getting to Canada, the only reason why you
: : might not want to live there is their cold winters. Canada is
: : democratic, peaceful, has a very low crime rate, and a relatively
: : small police force. Should you ever get caught for any criminal
: : offence, Canada has the most lenient sentences, often just giving you
: : a waring, though for serious violent crimes you will likely be sent
: : home (at the government's expense).
: :
: : There are four main methods of entering Canada: illegally, as a
: : refugee, as a landed immigrant (permanent resident status), or as a
: : citizen.
: :
: : Illegally:
: :
: : Entering Canada illegally shouldn't be necessary, as they have by far
: : the most liberal immigration and refugee entry laws in the whole
: : world. If you do plan to enter illegally because you have not or will
: : not be accepted any other way, you can visit Canada using a Visitor's
: : or Student visa, and then once it is about to run out, you can easily
: : disappear in Canada. Under a student visa you are eligible for free
: : health care in most provinces.
: :
: : Additionally, Canadian documents such as: entry permits, returning
: : resident permits, renewal of Minister's permits, immigration visa,
: : visitor visas and employment authorizations can easily be purchased.
: : There is no need to buy poor quality fake documents, as real
: : Government of Canada documents are in wide distribution, worldwide; as
: : many government workers appear to supplement their salaries by selling
: : these forms.
: :
: : At the present time, it is estimated that out of a population of 27.5
: : million peole, 500,000 are in that country illegally. For political
: : reasons, every few years, the Canadian government solves the problem
: : of illegal immigrants by granting them all an amnesty; that is during
: : these amnesties anybody who is in that country illegally who comes
: : forward and admits it automatically gets "landed immigrant" status
: : unless they have been caught committing a serious violent criminal
: : act.
: :
: : Refugees:
: :
: : Every year about 20,000 go to Canada as political refugees. The
: : Canadian Minister of Immigration has announced that figure may rise to
: : as high as 60,000 a year.
: :
: : Half of these peole go to Canada sponsored and paid for by the
: : Government of Canada. Most of the rest are sponsored and their
: : transporation paid for by refugee organizations; many are church and
: : other religious groups, and the others are ethnic organizations.
: :
: : The United Nations Convention on Refugees defines a refugee as
: : somebody who has reason to fear persecution in their home country
: : because of their race, religion, gender, nationality, political
: : viewpoint, or membership in a particular social group. Canada has
: : expanded this definition; for instance their Supreme Court has
: : included "reproductive freedom" so that a Chinese woman who is
: : pregnant with her second child (which is against the law of the
: : Peoples' Republic of China, and will result in her being sterilized
: : against her will after the birth of that child,) can claim refugee
: : status, and Canada's Immigration and Refugee Board (IRB) permits
: : political refugee status on the basis of homosexuality.
: :
: : Should you be refused entry for reasons such as not meeting the
: : medical criterion, you can use these same medical grounds (such as
: : having TB or AID's) to claim entry for compassionate and humanitarian
: : reasons.
: :
: : You should contact a church or other religious organization, or the
: : Canadian Embassy or Consulate in your country. Remember the U.N.
: : definition of a Convention Refugee before you give the reason(s) why
: : yo may fear for you and your family's lives, and keep your story
: : simple so you don't get caught lying.
: :
: : Once you get to Canada, stay in touch with the organization who
: : arranged your entry as they can make sure you get the maximum benefits
: : your are entitled to in Canada.
: :
: : Immigration:
: :
: : Canada grants over 250,000 people a year "landed immigrant"
: : (permanent resident) status. With only 27.5 million people in their
: : country, this is by far, the highest per capita figure in the World.
: :
: : You can emmigrate to Canada on several grounds:
: : - Family Class Sponsorship
: : - Entrepreneurs,
: : - Investors,
: : - the self-employed, or as an
: : - Independent Applicant.
: :
: : To enter under the Family Class Sponsorship, your relative who must be
: : a "landed immigrant" or citizen in Canada, requests of the Canadian
: : government, that you join them. This can easily be taken advantage of
: : as in many countries there is little provable documentation as to whom
: : is related to who. This is the easiest way to emmigrate to Canada.
: :
: : Investors and Entrepreneurs typically need to bring a minimum of
: : $250,000 with them to Canada. This money is meant to be invested in
: : Canada or to start a business there. It is common for several people
: : to put their money together so as to have over the $250,000 and this
: : money is used to get the first person into Canada as an Entrepreneur
: : or Investor. After a year, that money is sent out of Canada, and then
: : re-enters the country with another "entrepreneur". Using this method,
: : the very same money can be used to get several people into Canada over
: : several years.
: :
: : The "self-employed" must prove that they can make a significant
: : artistic, cultural or economic contribution to Canada to gain entry.
: : To be able to use this criterion, your best bet is to be an "artist"
: : or a "writer" and contact an artistic or cultural groups to provide
: : you wil a letter to back up your story even if you never really made
: : your living this way.
: :
: : The second easiest way to get "landed immigrant" status in Canada is
: : under the heading of an "Independent Applicant".
: :
: : Canada has a point system to decide your eligibility. There are
: : three methods get into Canada using that system:
: :
: : 1 - They give points depending upon your education. The more
: : education; the more points. You just have to provide the
: : documents or certificates. Due to the number of applicants, they
: : almost never verify if your documents are real or forgeries.
: :
: : 2 - Points are assigned based upon your claimed occupation. The
: : maximum number of points (almost enough to guarantee your entry,)
: : are awarded if you claim to be a: scientist, computer programmer,
: : engineer or electronic technician. You should have documents to
: : support your claims. They do not test you to see if you actually
: : have any knowledge of your claimed specialty, and rarely verify
: : your documents. Fake engineering degrees and computer programming
: : certificates that will almost guarantee your entry are widely
: : available in Asia and most of Eastern Europe.
: :
: : 3 - If you have a job guarantee in Canada, your chances of getting
: : into Canada are extremely good.
: :
: : There are many employment agencies throughout the World and
: : Canada that will arrange jobs in any occupation in Canada. If you
: : are female there is a very high demand for "domestic helpers"
: : (housekeepers and nannies). Check for ads in your country's
: : newpaper's or ethnic newspapers from Canada.
: :
: : Even if there isn't a job waiting for you in Canada, for a price,
: : most of these companies will provide you with fake documentation
: : saying there is a guaranteed job waiting for you in Canada, and
: : you can use this documentation to get into the country.
: :
: : Warning: It is best to get a personal recommendation from somebody
: : who has successfully gotten to Canada, as to the reputation of the
: : employment agency. A few agencies have been known to abuse their
: : applicants and send them to Canada to be prostitutes.
: :
: : Citizenship:
: :
: : Normally it takes at least three years of living in Canada to become a
: : citizen of that country. There are two ways to instantly become a
: : citizen: marry a Canadian citizen, or be born in Canada.
: :
: : Many countries have marriage bureaus. Usually they bring together
: : women from their home country with Canadian men. (A few will also
: : introduce men to Canadian women.) It is your right to find the
: : richest man you can, to marry. If you marry him and stay married for
: : at least 6 months, even if you then get divorced, you get to keep your
: : Canadian citizenship. Additionally, if you actually marry the
: : Canadian man and then divorce him for a good reason, you will likely
: : get one-half of all his assets (businesses, family home, other
: : property, cars, etc.). If you want half of his assets, it is best to
: : create a record of repeated physical abuse, whether or not any has
: : occured. To do this contact any women's groups after 4 or 5 months of
: : marriage, to complain of physical abuse, to establish a record of
: : your first complaints. In the sixth month or later, hit or otherwise
: : injure yourself so that you will have at least bruising and call
: : the Police and say your husband has beaten you. You will then do
: : the same a second time, but first call the women's shelter and then
: : the Police. This second time, ask the Police to drive you to the
: : women's shelter on the grounds that you fear for your life. The
: : shelter will get you a place to live and get you a free lawyer to help
: : you divorce your Canadian husband and claim half of all his assets.
: : Feminist groups will also greatly assist you. You will now not only
: : be a Canadian citizen, but also be rich!
: :
: : Another way to get into Canada is to be a parent of a Canadian. It is
: : common for a pregnant woman to get a visitor's visa to visit Canada,
: : but to time the visit to be around the date of the birth. If the
: : child is born in Canada, it is automatically a Canadian citizen.
: : Having a child who is a Canadian citizen greatly increases the chance
: : for the woman to be given "landed immigrant" status. Once the woman
: : is a landed immigrant, she can now sponsor her husband and other
: : members of her family to come to Canada.
: :
: : With all its benefits, Canada is the greatest place to emmigrate to!
: :
: : The following is a listing of some resources in Toronto, Ontario,
: : Canada, the most popular city in Canada to emmigrate to, (and where my
: : contact for information is):
: :
: : All phone numbers start with area code 416
: :
: : Refugee Information Centre 517 Parliament Street 966-2233
: : Working Groups on Resettlement 1339 King Street West 588-1612
: : Jesuit Refugee Program 947 Queen Street East 469-1123
: : Quaker Committee for Refugees 52 Elgin Avenue 964-9669
: : Amnesty International 440 Bloor Street West 929-9477
: : Assaulted Women's Helpline 863-0511
: : Shirley Samaroo House (24-hour immigrant women shelter) 249-7095
: : Anduhyaun Residence (for battered immigrant women) 920-1492
: : Interval House (Battered Women's shelter) 924-1491
: : Nellie's (Battered Women's shelter) 461-1084
: : Red Door (Battered Women's shelter) 462-9750
: : Coalition for Lesbian&Gay Rights736 Bathurst Street 533-6824
: : Multicultural Coalition for Access to Family
: : Services & Benefits 1115 College Street 516-0204
: : Refugee Lawyers Association 166 Pearl Street 351-8600
: : Harriet Tubman Community Assoc 2029 Gerrard St. East 693-2378
: : National Action Committee (NAC) 925 Albion Road 740-5554
: : National Action Committee for the Status of Women (NAC) second address
: : 57 Mobile Drive 932-1718
: : Catholic Immigration Bureau(HQ) 291 Yonge Street 977-3264
: : Access for New Canadians 431 Roncesvalles Ave. 530-1455
: : Afghan Association of Ontario 29 Pemican Court #6 744-9289
: : African-Can Immigr. Aid Centre 49 Front St. East 861-0199
: : African-Can Youth Advisory Coun.1183 Finch Ave. West 650-5557
: : African Women's Resource Centre 366 Adelaide St. East 863-6240
: : Arab Community Services 5298 Dundas St. West 231-7746
: : Canadian African Newcomer Aid Centre of Toronto (CANACT)
: : 44 Wellington St.E.#401 861-0199
: : Canadian Ethnic Immigration 1489 Gerrard St. East 778-5989
: : Canadian Immigr/Ref Assistance 429-5448
: : Canadian Ukrainian Immigrants 2150 Bloor St.W.#96 767-4595
: : Catholic Immigr.Services (Tor.) 1108 Dundas St. West 532-0603
: : (Scarborough) 47 Herron Avenue 757-7010
: : (Brampton) 284 Queen St.E.#236(905)457-7740
: : (Mississauga) 3038 Hurontario#201(905)273-4140
: : Centre for Spanish-Speaking Peo.1004 Bathurst St. 533-0680
: : Chinese-Can Council for Equity 386(or368)Bathurst St. 868-1777
: : Coalition for South Asians 1622 Gerrard St. East 462-9657
: : Coalition-Visible MinorityWomen 579 St. Clair Ave. West 651-5071
: : Congress of Black Women (Ont.) 756 Ossington Ave. 534-3114
: : Congress of Black Women (Tor) 20 College St. 975-1640
: : Congress of Black Women (Scar.) 2376 Eglinton Ave. East 269-4245
: : Connect (Hispanic and Turkish) 1900 Davenport Rd. 654-0299
: : COSTI-IIAS 1710 Dufferin Street 658-1600
: : COSTI-IIAS Employment Centre 700 Caledonia Road 789-7925
: : COSTI-IIAS Employment Centre 2180 Steeles Ave.W.(905)669-5330
: : Council of Muslim Communities 100 McLevin Ave. 293-2099
: : Council of Women 929-0811
: : Cultural Support Services 14 Earl St. 962-6200
: : Culturelink 651-4678
: : Ethiopian Assoc. of Toronto 851 Bloor St. West 516-3117
: : Ethnomedia Monitor Services 3000 Yonge St. 489-3148
: : Hispanic Development Council 1076 Bathurst Street 516-0851
: : Immi.Womens'Servs&Financial Aid 555 Bloor St. West 531-2059
: : Indo-Pakistani Community Voice 40 Wellesley St. East 924-7444
: : Institute of Cultural Affairs 577 Kingston Road 691-2316
: : Islamic Immigrant Aid 135 Sheppard Ave. East 223-2162
: : Jamaican Candian Association 1621 Dupont St. 535-4476
: : Metro Asian Legal Clinic 180 Dundas St. W. #308 971-9674
: : Middle East Immi.Womens' Cntr 4002 Sheppard Ave. East 321-1979
: : Ont. Council of Agencies Serving Immigrants
: : and Refugees 579 St. Clair Ave. West 657-8777
: : Parkdale Intercultural Council 1303 Queen St. West 536-4420
: : Polish-Canadian Immigrant Serv. 15 Roncesvalles Ave. 533-6332
: : Polish Immigrant Aid 206 Beverley St. 979-9634
: : Polish Immigrant Aid 2140 Wright Ave. 531-4643
: : Russian-Can Cultural Aid Soc. 91 Kersdale Ave. 653-1361
: : S.O.S Femmes (Frech-speaking) 759-0138
: : Salvation Army Refugee Services 148 Jarvis Street 360-6036
: : Somali Immigrant Aid Services 698 Weston Road #21 766-7326
: : Somali-Canadian Assoc. Etobicoke925 Albion road, #307 742-4601
: : South Asian Social Services 1123 Albion Road #203 748-1798
: : South Asian Women's Centre 1022 Bloor St. West 537-2276
: : South East Asian Centre 603 Whiteside Place 362-1375
: : Tamil Eelam Society 366 Danforth Ave. #364 463-7647
: : Tamil Immigrants Centre 566 Parliament St. 929-7612
: : Vietnamese/Chinese Organization 150-A Augusta Ave. 593-0803
: : Vietnamese Immigrant Assoc. 1364 Dundas St. West 536-3611
: : Women's Education Centre 525 Bloor St. West 534-7501
: :
: :
: : Government Offices for Refugees and Immigration
: :
: : Government of Canada Immigration Centres:
: : 443 University Ave. 973-4444
: : 1920 Ellesmere Ave. 973-4444
: : 5343 Dundas St. West 973-4444
: : 4900 Yonge Street 973-4444
: : 481 University Ave. 977-8111
: : Immigration and Refugee Board 1 Front Street West 973-4444
: :
: : Ontario Ministry of Citizenship departments:
: : Minister's Office 77 Bloor St. W. 5th Flr 325-6170
: : Ethnocultural Centre 77 Bloor St. W. 5th Flr 314-7300
: : Multicultural Development 77 Bloor St. W.17th Flr 314-7535
: : Employment Equity Commissioner 77 Bloor St. W.10th Flr 314-7806
: : Ontario Human Rights Commission 400 University Ave. 314-4500
: : Hum.Rights Systemic Investigat. 400 University Ave.11th 965-6841
: : Ontario Advisory Council on Multiculturalism 314-6650
: : Anti-Racism Secretariat (OARS) 326-9702
: :
: : IMMIGRATION CONSULTANTS AND LAWYERS IN TORONTO
: :
: : A-1 Paralegal Services 648-A Yonge Street 924-6556
: : ABCO Translations Intl. 330 Bay St. #710 359-0873
: : Active Immigration Servies 6013 Yonge Street 250-6990
: : AD ALL Counselling Services 190 Wallace Ave. 533-7702
: : Advocate Group 410 Adelaide St.W.#314 504-1535
: : Alberta Pacific Management 968-1855
: : Atlantic Management Corp. 291 Spadina Avenue 340-8995
: : B & B Permanent Immigration 2323 Bloor St.W. #213 761-9554
: : Ben And Alexander 260 Spadina Ave, #400 979-8888
: : Betty Masters & White (Lawyers) 1231 Yonge Street 968-1181
: : Ana M Bezjak Immigration Serv. 2186 Bloor St. W. 766-2884
: : M.J. Bjarnason Assoc.Co.Ltd 22 College Street 960-3741
: : Arnold Bruner (Lawyer) 167 Danforth Avenue 461-0983
: : Campbell, Colin Laverne (Law) 123 Edward St. 15floor 598-3793
: : Campion And Associates 782 Dundas Street West 363-1118
: : Canada United Immig. Consult. 881 St.Clair Ave. West 658-7888
: : Canadian Citizenship Consult. 966-1011
: : Canadian International Assoc. 1151 King Street West 588-4033
: : Cann-Am Associates 205 Dundas Street West 979-0533
: : Carriere Hall & Associates 55 Eglinton Ave.E.#704 488-0689
: : CEF 67 Yonge Street 777-0001
: : Chapnick & Associates (Lawyers) 228 Carlton Street 968-2160
: : Mitchell Chernovshy (Lawyers) 61 St. Nicholas St. 927-7048
: : Cohen & Associates (Lawyers) 1 St. Clair Ave. East 323-0907
: : Community Action Centre 1929 Eglinton Ave.W 785-7988
: : Allen M. Cooper (Lawyer) 15-A Elm Street 977-8070
: : Cooper & Cooper (Lawyers) 45 Sheppard Av.E.#510 225-7321
: : Dawn Moore Intl.Consult.Ltd. 10 Bay Street 777-1413
: : Robert P. Downie & Assoc. 424 Hensall Circle (905)566-0585
: : Dutra & Associates 567 College Street 532-8400
: : Ferreira Koach 374 College Street 926-8081
: : Filici Legal Services 111 Eglinton Ave. E. 482-1575
: : First Canada Immigration Adv. 4002 Sheppard Ave.E. 299-0022
: : FMC Business & Immigr. Serv. 66 Gerrard St.E.#203 595-6307
: : Forms S O S, Inc. 5740 Yonge St. #104 512-1451
: : Allan Franklin (Lawyers) 20 Queen St. West 977-7030
: : Fay Fuerst (Lawyer) 752 Broadview Ave. 466-5444
: : L. Fullerton 749 Dovercourt Road 516-0010
: : Gateway Canada, Inc. 900 Don Mills Road 391-1919
: : General Consulting 2333 Dundas St. West 537-8466
: : Gertler & Associates(Lawyers) 120 Eglinton Ave.E.#300 485-9585
: : D.M. Gislason Immigration 80 St.Clair Ave. East 961-2142
: : Global Immigration Services 1752 Eglinton Ave. W. 785-7762
: : Global View Investments 130 Adelaide St. West 363-5231
: : William A. Gorewich (Lawyer) 49 St.Nicholas Street 927-1109
: : Donald Greenbaum (Lawyer) 258 Wilson Avenue 631-7504
: : Grubner & Goldstein (Lawyers) 3459 Sheppard Ave.E#212 292-0414
: : Guberman Garson (Lawyers) 130 Adelaide St.W.#1920 363-1234
: : Gunness & Associates 4198 Dundas St.W #202 236-3701
: : Jane Harvey Assoc. (Lawyers) 1240 Bay Street 961-1981
: : Jane Harvey Assoc. (Lawyers) 120 Adelaide St. West 368-8672
: : Jane Harvey Assoc. (Lawyers) Scarborough Town Centre 296-1607
: : Jane Harvey Assoc. (Lawyers) Fairview Mall 496-8100
: : Jane Harvey Assoc. (Lawyers) Yorkdale Mall 256-1533
: : Alfred H. Herman & Assoc. (Law) 1948 Weston Road 245-2400
: : Immigrant Information/Referral 392-0505
: : (City of Toronto - Municipal service 24 hours a day)
: : Immigrant Assistance, Ltd. 3080 Yonge Street 484-7340
: : Immigrant Women Job Center 2221 Yonge Street 488-0084
: : (Government of Canada Employment office)
: : Immigrant Women's Center 489 College Street 323-9986
: : Immigration Action Consult. 5859 Yonge Street 222-3009
: : Immigration Assistance & Serv 5859 Yonge Street 229-9327
: : Immigr.Consult:Joel Danaia 1282 Dunsas St. West 534-7722
: : The Immigration House, Inc. 145 King Street West 777-9016
: : Immigration Matters 3089 Bathurst Street 789-5756
: : Immigr.Services for All 5859 Yonge Street 229-4806
: : Inter-Canadian Legal Services 1430 Yonge Street #212 963-5568
: : The International Immig. Group 517 College Street 927-9664
: : Robert Karfell (Lawyer) 80 Richmond St. W. #501 366-7048
: : Kelly, White & Smith (Lawyers) 130 Adelaide St.W #1020 366-5900
: : Mitchell Korman 121 Richmond St. West 777-2566
: : Henriques Kovacs & Assoc. 439 University Ave. 977-8812
: : George J. Kubes (Lawyer) 360 Bloor St.W.#403 926-9298
: : Peter T. Lam & Assoc. 720 Spadina Ave. 975-3825
: : Les J. Hulka & Assoc.(Lawyer) 40 King St.W 66flr.(800)263-8723
: : Linda Lever & Assoc. 517 Wellington St. W 971-6992
: : Shirley E. Levitan (Lawyer) 489 College St. #303 927-7263
: : Howard Levitt & Assoc.(Lawyers) 401 Bay St. #1500 594-3900
: : H.J. Lowes & Assoc. 11-A Glen Watford Dr. 321-0944
: : Luis Brance & Assoc. 1087 Dundas St. West 516-3919
: : Mamann & Kranc (Lawyer) 212 King St. West #410 599-3000
: : Manraj & Baksh (Lawyer) 347 Bay Street #1004 867-1111
: : K.J. McAlister & Assoc. 6 Lansing Square 493-7901
: : Chris K. McNaught (Lawyer) 77 Elizabeth St. #200 977-8500
: : Suzanne Meder-Toth Imm.Consult. 123 Edward Street 591-1450
: : R.A. Melnyk Immigration Serv. 1 Yonge St. #1801 861-8662
: : Allan B. Mervin (Lawyer) 99 Charles Street East 962-3780
: : Alawi K. Mohideen (Lawyer) 2131 Lawrence Ave. East 752-9814
: : Monaco Lepore Granata (Lawyers) 1205 St.Clair Ave.West 651-2299
: : Multi-Level Immigration Serv. 302 Spadina Ave. #403 977-1228
: : I. Kabateraine Nkunda (Lawyer) 530 Wilson Ave. #206 630-2011
: : North American Immigr&Employ. 1090 Dundas St.E. (905)273-3666
: : O'Brien Carpenter & King 388 King Street West 979-7242
: : Chris Opoka-Okumu (Lawyer) 530 Wilson Avenue #206 630-2016
: : Pacific Rim Financing 979-7979
: : Paragon Immigration Services 2 Sammon Avenue 461-0231
: : Pinkofsky Lockyer Kwinter (Law) 123 Edward Street 598-1811
: : Polish Immigrant Aid Services 2140 Wright Avenue 531-4643
: : Polish Immigrant Aid Services 206 Beverley Street 979-9634
: : Profession Services Co. Inc 936 College St. #201 516-1640
: : Ramsay Robert Steven (Lawyers) 20 Richmond St.E.#600 360-1467
: : Refugee Information Center 517 Parliament Street 966-2233
: : (The) Refugee Law Office 481 University Ave. 977-8111
: : Romoff Wong Yerzy & Forbes (Law)33 Prince Arthur #300 972-0173
: : Rosenblatt Associates (Lawyers) 133 Richmond St.W#501 861-9429
: : Somali Refugee Aid Organization 698 Weston Road 766-7326
: : Government Job and Aid hotline 769-9189
: : Stuart B. Scott (Lawyers) 243 Queen St.W. #200 340-9332
: : Serbian Heritage Academy 2381 Dundas St. West 588-8550
: : Shand & Assoc. Inc 2275 LakeShore West 252-0300
: : Roop N. Aharma (Lawyer) 942 Gerrard Street E. 461-0467
: : Shellton Immigration Services 291 Spadian Ave.#209 599-9333
: : L. Simoes 1588 Dundas St. West 531-2268
: : Peter Smith 69 Bloor St. East 961-7917
: : Social & Immigr. Consult. 1970 Davenport Road 651-5589
: : Soko Immigration Consult. 1280 Finch Ave. West 661-5699
: : Somjen Law Office 94 Cumberland Street 922-8083
: : Sparling Billings & Kei, Inc. 6 Lansing Square 495-7965
: : Status Policy Ltd. 372 Bay Street 368-7515
: : Anne H. Stevens (Lawyer) 924-7841
: : Taffe & Associates 22 College Street 966-2757
: : 207 Corporation 593-4858
: : Tkatch and Young, Barristers 22 College Street 968-0333
: : U.S. & Canada Immigration Con. 1111 Finch Ave.W #402 665-0856
: : West Coast Immigration Consult. 130 Westmore Drive 745-9777
: : West Toronto Immigr. Consult. 1199 Dundas St. West 532-9999
: : Wilson Kok Consultants 405 Dundas St. West 599-7723
: : Worldwide Immigration Bureau 1801 Eglinton Ave. W. 789-7911
: : Woyschyshyn, Nestor (Lawyer) 2259 Bloor Street W. 604-2091
: : Peter J. Wuebbolt (Lawyer) 1554-A Bloor St. West 516-4621
: : Zaidi & Associates 2 Eastwood Road 466-7887

Ian D. Parson

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Ian D. Parson (ipa...@pinch.io.org) wrote:
: And I thought they were talking about:

Or talking about


Tue, 14 Feb 1995 15:12:05 can.general Thread 24 of 29
Immigration - advice on circumventing laws.
ar...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Karen Gordon at The National Capital FreeNet

_____________________________________________________
This is the kind of information being offered on the net...by a Canadian
lawyer yet.....that makes a mockery of our laws and our immigration system.

The current laws require that a landed immigrant maintain residency in Canada
for at least 1/2 of each calendar year (a joke in itself), to be able to
qualify for our social programs....one of the most precious of which is our
free medical system.
He is offering advice on how to 'get around' this minimal requirement by
keeping immediate family & dependents resident in Canada, but not meeting
the requirements themselves. He tells them to "keep bank acounts, magazine
subscriptions, MEDICARE CARDS, lodgings, driver's licences, etc. current -
and also to keep children enrolled in schools." This as a way of qualifying
for "benefits" in Canada and appealing to the "flexible interpretations by
judges" of the requirements of the Immigration Act.

Now we're hearing of 'astronaut kids' - teens being deposited in Canada by
recent immigrants, while the parents return to Asian countries to make their
fortunes (and most likely not declare them as income as required by our tax
laws).
I am attaching my original article on this issue - a newpaper article by
a long-term immigrant that is speaking out against the abuses of Canada's
social systems by recent immigrants.
The following advice from the Montreal lawyer, should be thoroughly examined
by our legislators and action taken immediately.
No more bed closures; no more hospital closures; no more medical premium
increases until such abuses are halted. Innocent Canadians must not pay for
the scams and frauds described herein....
****************************

From: csinger.ORG (Colin R. Singer)
Subject: CANADIAN CITIZENSHIP
Date: 6 Feb 1995 03:34:31 -0500
Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada
Lines: 154


Colin R. Singer is a Canadian attorney practising Canadian and
Quebec immigration law with his Montreal based firm COLIN R. SINGER
& Associates. He is a regular contributor to this Newsgroup.
___________________________________________________________________

DISCLAIMER:

The following has been prepared by Colin R. Singer, Attorney At
Law, for the intended reference by interested individuals and is
not intended to create an attorney-client communication. This
writing may be reproduced for the personal non commercial use of
interested individuals on the express or implied condition that the
contents herein are neither edited, modified nor altered in whole
or in part, directly or indirectly without the express written
consent of the author herein.

__________________________________________________________________

CANADIAN CITIZENSHIP

PHYSICAL PRESENCE AND THE THREE YEAR RESIDENCE REQUIREMENT


When a person who has been lawfully admitted to Canada for
permanent residence and has within the four years immediately
preceding the date of application, accumulated at least three years
of residence in Canada, he may make an application for Canadian
Citizenship.

Section 5(1)(c) of Canada's Citizenship Act also provides for
the additional requirement that since admission as a permanent
resident, such person has not ceased to be a permanent resident
pursuant to section 24 of the Immigration Act.

What is of concern for many would be applicants, is whether
actual physical presence within the country is needed during the
whole 1095 days, to fulfil the three year residence requirement for
Canadian citizenship purposes.

We have previously opined that persons in possession of a
returning resident permit are generally able to rebut the
presumption created by section 24(2) of the Immigration Act which
provides that where a permanent resident is outside Canada for more
than 183 days in any 12 month period, that person shall be deemed
to have abandoned Canada as his or her place of permanent
residence: RETURNING RESIDENT PERMIT - A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY.
However as numerous applicants for Canadian citizenship have
experienced in the recent past, maintaining Canadian permanent
resident status for a three year period, does not necessarily imply
that the requirements for Canadian Citizenship will be satisfied.

It has long been established in the Canadian citizenship
field, that physical presence is not essential provided that the
landed immigrant has established and maintained throughout the
three year period in question, a "pied-…-terre" in Canada and has
the clear intention to live in this country. Applicants who had in
mind and fact, settled into, maintained or centralized their
ordinary mode of living in Canada could be determined to have
fulfilled the citizenship residence requirements with as little as
79 days of physical presence in Canada during the relevant four
year period: Re Papadogiorgakis, [1978] 2 F.C. 208 (T.D.).

Indeed, this liberal application of the Citizenship Act is
often followed by citizenship judge's who opt for a flexible
interpretation of the Act to account for justified absences from
Canada. In order to ascertain whether an applicant under this
approach, has centralized his or her mode of existence in Canada,
a number of issues are examined by the judge, including:


1. Was the individual physically present in Canada for a
long period prior to recent absences which occurred immediately
before the application for citizenship;

2. Where are the applicant's immediate family and dependants
resident;

3. Does the pattern of physical presence in Canada indicate
a returning home or merely visiting the country;

4. What is the extent of the physical absences;

5. Is the physical absence caused by a clearly temporary
situation such as employment as a missionary abroad, following a
course of study abroad as a student, accepting temporary employment
abroad, accompanying a spouse who has accepted temporary employment
abroad;

6. What is the quality of the connection with Canada: is it
more substantial than that which exists with any other country.

This latter issue is usually examined from the perspective of
the indicia of applicant's ties to Canada. To avail the benefits
of this approach, applicants are encouraged to maintain Canadian
bank accounts, magazine subscriptions, medicare cards, lodgings,
furniture, driverþ licenses, bank cards, and enrol their children
in Canadian schools.

Applicant's should be cautioned however, against blindly
conforming to such "residence and citizenship" planning advice, as
a number of decisions have emanated from the Courts over the years
which evince a strict statutory construction of the Citizenship Act
requiring persons who have been "in residence" in Canada for three
years during the previous four.

Recent decisions have required that applicants must "throw in
their lot with Canadians by residing among Canadians, in Canada,
during three of the preceding four years, in order to Canadianize
themselves": Re: Pourghasemi (1993), 19 Imm. L.R. (2d) 259, 62
F.T.R. 122. This happens according to recent rulings from the
Federal Court of Canada, by "rubbing elbows", with Canadians in
shopping malls, corner stores, libraries, concert halls, auto
repair shops, pubs, cabarets, elevators, churches, synagogues,
mosques and temples - in a word wherever one can meet and converse
with Canadians - during the prescribed three years.

In accord with rulings of late, applicants who elect to file
applications prior to four years of residence in Canada, may be
hard pressed to argue for a liberal application of the residency
rule.

In most unsuccessful citizenship applications however,
applicants are encouraged to re apply once the residence criteria
of section 5(1)(c) of the Citizenship Act have been met.

The government is currently preparing legislation towards the
implementation of a New Citizenship Act. This commitment stems in
part from the findings of the Standing Committee on Citizenship and
Immigration which were submitted to the Minister in June 1994. The
most significant change to the citizenship process is the planned
elimination of citizenship judges and the proposed implementation
of a new administrative process.

___________________________________________________________________

Should you wish to obtain additional information regarding the
acquisition of Canadian permanent residence, we invite you to
forward to us by E-mail a summary of your profile including,
nationality; current place of residence and immigration status;
age; marital status; number of accompanying dependent children;
education; employment experience; language abilities in the english
and french languages and personal net worth.

Should you qualify, we would be pleased to provide you with
our assessment of your credentials at no charge.

--
COLIN R. SINGER & Associates
Barristers & Solicitors
Canadian and Quebec Immigration Law

****************************************************************

(from the Financial Post - April 28, 1994 - by Diane Francis):

(Vancouver) "Kathleen" came from Hong Kong with her parents around 25 years
ago. She's a Canadian citizen now and proud of it. She's also a pharmacist.

Kathleen wants fellow Canadians to know that many Chinese and other immigrants
are ripping off this country's health and welfare systems.

Here's her story and just one more reason why the Liberals must impose a
moratorium on immigration until the system is cleaned up by B.C. and other
incompetent provinces.
This column includes simple suggestions to fix the problem.

"Many immigrants, increasingly from Taiwan, come to Canada, settle their
family and the grandparents into a house and the husband goes back to Hong Kong
or Taiwan or the Philippines to make a living," she said.
They do not report their global income on their Canadian tax return - as they
are supposed to - but only report their Canadian income, if they have any.
This is tax evasion and Revenue Canada isn't hooked up to Hong Kong tax rolls"

(Suggestion: CANADA SHOULD NEVER ACCEPT IMMIGRANTS FROM ANY COUNTRY THAT DOES
NOT AGREE TO SHARE TAX AND OTHER RELEVANT PERSONAL INFORMATION).

These men are nicknamed "flight husbands" by the Chinese in Canada and Kathleen
suspects most of them don't declare their off-shore income. If they do, there
is nothing illegal about what they are up to. If they don't, they are tax
evaders and costing us all a fortune in schooling and medical costs for their
families."
"Just look at the number of frequent flyers that go from Hong Kong to Seattle
or San Francisco and back. They arrive in the U.S., drive across the border
and their movements are unrecorded. They go back the same way and there is
no policing of this.

"I also get disgusted because many elderly immigrants obtain large quantities
of their prescription drugs and take them to their own country.
Pharmacare (BC's drug plan) allows them 3 months' supply at a time and seniors
pay only the dispensing fee.
These drugs these seniors take cost hundreds of dollars and their doctors are
in cahoots with them. The seniors also get a pension after 10 years but don't
actually live here - they live with other relatives in the U.S. or HONG KONG -
they sneak across the border like the husbands do. They come to Canada once
a year for medical stuff. Their families get 3 months' supply of drugs for
them and mail the drugs to them."

She also said that some private schools in Canada catering to foreign Chinese
students are sometimes engaged in large-scale tax evasion.
Some declare they are religious - which means students can write off fees as
donations - but the schools really are not religious. Also interesting, if
true, she said the pupils often board with school staffers or in apartments
but their landlords don't declare the rent they get from the kids.

(Kathleen's suggestion: 'REVENUE CANADA SHOULD AUDIT ALL FOREIGN STUDENT
PRIVATE SCHOOLS IMMEDIATELY TO FIND THE STUDENTS' LANDLORDS AND MAKE SURE
THEY ARE PAYING TAXES ON RENTS.')

Kathleen also related some other incidents involving welfare scams:

: " A couple came in with welfare cards to get free prescription drugs and
told me they'd just had a great holiday in Costa Rica."

: "One young lady told me she's on long-term disability and welfare pays
for everything. Then she told me she's selling cars."

(Suggestion: MAKE WELFARE RECIPIENTS WORK FOR THEIR CHEQUES).

: "A family swings everyones's prescriptions under the grandmother's name
because she's over 65 years and gets it free," she said.

: Kathleen said it's an open secret that rings of Middle Eastern refugees
in West and North Vancouver send "tonnes of insulin" and other drugs
received under their welfare cards home.

: A man came in to have a $100 tranquilizer prescription filled as a wel-
fare recipient. "He wouldn't let me put a lebel on it. What do you
think he's doing with that? He's selling it one the street."

(Suggestion: COMPUTERIZE THE HEALTH SYSTEM TO CATCH PEOPLE GETTING MULTIPLE
PRESCRIPTIONS FROM MULTIPLE DOCTORS OR RUNNING UP HUGE BILLS.)

What's sad is that immigrants such as Kathleen are becoming the targets of
hostility because provinces have ignored the fraud even though my articles
have been exposing this for 3 years.

"An old Caucasian lady said to me recently. 'Go back where you came from.
We don't need you in this country!' I turned around and said, 'Madam, this
IS my country.' That's why I decided to call you and tell you what's going
on because the government must stop it. You must write my story and tell
Canadians what's happening.
To these Hong Kong and Taiwanese people we are a laughing stock."
________________________________

Ian D. Parson

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From patr...@unixg.ubc.caWed Aug 23 02:54:25 1995
From: PATRICK PAK-KIT LAM <patr...@unixg.ubc.ca>
Subject: Re: Immigration Lawyer -- free enquiry, and interview guaranteed.

Hi:

Since I have received an incredible amount of requests on information about
the immigration lawyer, he now officially employs me to take care of all
the email requests (but I really wasn't working for him, I was just trying
to help some people who need help!). I don't go by commission, so don't
think that I am trying to advertise him. I will get paid anyway as long
as I take care of all the email requests. By the way, he does not have
any internet access (you know those old men). Anyway, if you are really
interested in immigrating to Canada, please read:

The name of the lawyer is Alex Li. He has offices in Beijing, Hong Kong
and Vancouver Downtown. He has been an immigration specialist for more
than 10 years ( I know him for almost 7 years!).

He charges CAD$4000 for each SUCCESSFUL immigration. The way he charges
is that he would charge you CAD$2000 before turning in your application.
However, if your application is turned down, he will refund the whole
CAD$2000. In the case that your application is approved, the
Canadian Immigration Office would very likely (unless you are well
over-qualified) invite you to their interview (a few of my friends did
not have to be interviewed at all!). At that point, you would
have to pay the rest CAD$2000. Since the performance in the interview is
solely up to you, he would not refund if the interview fails. But don't
worry, more than 99% of the interviews are successful. Alex will also
teach you how to answer questions on forms and in the interview to
guarantee your acceptance. As long as you don't seem to be lying,
the Canadian Immigration won't reject you at all (they don't verify
everything as they don't want to waste time on you, do they?).

Now, the best thing for you to do is to come down to Vancouver downtown
to meet Alex, so that he would know how exactly he should fill out the
application (trust me, it does take some techniques!) and how to maximize
your chance. However, if that is not possible for you, you can send or
fax me all the information of yourself as soon as possible. Alex then
decides what to do with you, and he (or I) will send you an agreement (of
course, the agreement would also state any refunding policies and you
will keep one copy of it) for you to sign. If you decide to employ
him as your attorney, you would have to send him (or me) a check of
CAD$2000 (made payable to Can-Achieve Consultants LTD., an equivalent
value of US fund will also be accepted.). As soon as we
receive you check, Alex will fill out the application for
you and you just have to sign it and send it back. Each application
takes about 1 to 3 months. Mine took 3 weeks.

My address is :
Patrick Lam
6765 ACACIA Ave.
BURNABY, BC,
V5E 3J7
CANADA.

My fax number is:

(604) - 520-3817 (please call me at the same number before you
send the fax, because I have to turn on my
computer to receive fax!)

I hope I did not waste your time.

For more info, please feel free to email me.

Patrick.

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Ian D. Parson

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Sep 21, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/21/95
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Ian D. Parson (ipa...@pinch.io.org) wrote:
: And I thought they were talking about:

or talking about . . . . .

RAY CHEN
IMMIGRATION / INVESTMENT SERVICES
2044 Euclid Avenue, Suite 202
Cleveland, Ohio 44115
U.S.A.
Tel: 216-621-2808
E-Mail: l...@po.cwru.edu

DO YOU WANT TO IMMIGRATE TO CANADA?

Canada is a traditional immigration country. In 1950 and 1960's
there were thousands of Europeans immigrated to Canada, while in 1970
and 1980's, thousands of Asians moved to live there. Now, in 1990's, a
great number of educated people will be welcomed to immigrate to this
beautiful country.
Canada has changed its immigration policy recently; it now
encourages people with high level education to immigrate. If
you:
1. have a bachelor degree (no matter from where)
2. have at least one year of work experience
3. speak fluent English and/or French, are healthy, and
have no criminal record
you are basically qualified, regardless what you are doing at the
moment. One important factor, however, is that your one-year
working experience must be in an occupation which is now opened
in Canada. There are some 1800 occupations open presently. Finally, you
do not need to first find a job in the country in order to apply.
The application process becomes simple when your case is
handled by people who are expertised in the process, for example, those
who work in the immigration services. You need only to
supply some documents, and everything else will be taken care of
by the them. However, if you do decide to apply through an
immigration service company, make sure specifically that it is
familiar with the Canadian immigration policy. At Ray Chen
Immigration/Investment Services we specialize in immigration to
Canada.
Ray Chen Immigration Services have many years of
experience in immigration matters, and with a former high-rank
immigration officer's support, we have succeeded in hundreds and
hundreds of cases. As of today, 100% success is our reputation.
In your case, we, as always, will also pledge our
professionalism. To begin your process, we will first assess
your qualification. If you qualify, we then help you fill out
your application forms properly in order to earn maximum number
of legal points, submit them for you, keep you informed of the
progress, and also seriously pre-interview you as a practice
prior to your interview with the immigration official. We can
make your immigration process short and painless, all at a
reasonable cost.
If you are interested in using the service of our company, the
first thing to do is to supply us your resume containing the following
information:
1. your name (according to your passport)
2. date of birth
3. marriage status, including spouse and children's name
and age
4. address and telephone number(s)
5. education background
6. detailed work experience
The resume is for us to evaluate your qualification, and the
information contained will be kept strictly confidential.
This evaluation is entirely without charge, and the resume should
be faxed to (216)621-0018. Meanwhile, please feel free to call
us at (216)621-2808, anytime, regarding any questions or concerns.
Best Regards.


asifm...@gmail.com

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Jun 7, 2013, 8:08:20 AM6/7/13
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"Breaking News "Canada opens up Investor Immigrant Program"
Canada opens its Immigrant Investor Program based on following qualifying
criteria: -

. Two years management/business experience in the last five years

. Net-worth of $1.6 million

. One time cost of $180,000

If interested, please contact us immediately, as very few applications will
be accepted under this program with a submission deadline. You can email us
at in...@sunenterprises.ca
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