OCPAC e-mail

[Charlie Meadows]

Members and Friends of the Oklahoma Conservative Political Action
Committee (OCPAC)

+ AGENDA FOR THIS WEEK’S MEETING
+ ANNOUNCEMENTS
+ THE 912 BARBEQUE AND EVENING WITH MIKE CHURCH
+ MY LIFE, LIKE SWIMMING UPSTREAM IN PEANUT BUTTER!
+ I HAVE BECOME A GLEN BECK CONVERT

+ AGENDA FOR THIS WEEK’S MEETING

Our 12 noon luncheon for Wednesday, October 28th will be held at
Italiano’s restaurant, 4801 North Lincoln in OKC. Sometimes waiting on
speaker confirmations, it gets a little close to the deadline for the
e-mail to go out. That is the case for this week’s meeting of which I
am trying to have speakers to cover several perspectives on the city
of Oklahoma City, how it is governed and the up-coming MAPS III vote.
I have had one speaker that needed to be re-schedule for the following
week and if we can’t get the speaker I am trying to obtain now, we
will view the newly produced 19 minute DVD, EXPOSING TERRORISM -
INSIDE THE TERROR TRIANGLE.

+ ANNOUNCEMENTS

BROKEN ARROW AREA + Monday evening October 26th, 6:00 p.m. there
will be an Oklahoma Health Care Reform town hall meeting. It will be
held in the 2nd floor ballroom, Building A on the campus of
Northeastern State University - Broken Arrow, 3100 East New Orleans
Street. The organizers of this event are advocates for more government
control over health care, but attending will be State Representative
Mike Ritze (R-Broken Arrow). Representative Ritze is a medical doctor
and is not in favor of more government controls, so it should be an
interesting meeting and one where conservatives need to attend to
counter the liberal socialists and fascists.

GUTHRIE AREA + Tuesday evening October 27th, 7:00 p.m. there will be
a town hall meeting at the Woodcrest Fire Department. Speaking will be
State Representative Jason Murphy (R-Guthrie) about state government
issues, County Commissioner Mike Pearson about county government
issues and speaking on national issues will be Stuart Jolly, state
director for Americans For Prosperity. The fire department is located
at Charter Oak and Douglass (2.5 miles East of I-35 and 2 miles North
of Waterloo Road).

OKC AREA + Thursday evening October 29th there will be a special
featuring Dr. Brent Seimens on the 5:00 p.m. news edition on KOCO
channel 5, the ABC affiliate. Dr. Seimens was a recent speaker at
OCPAC as he has developed a clinic level health care plan, completely
in the private sector and a plan that almost any individual or family
can afford. If you didn’t get to hear Dr. Seimens at OCPAC, this will
be a good opportunity.

+ THE 912 BARBECUE AND EVENING WITH MIKE CHURCH

This past Saturday evening the Oklahoma County 912 group hosted a
barbeque dinner fundraiser in Midwest City which featured satellite
radio talk show host Mike Church. Being one who never listens to
satellite radio, I had never heard of Mr. Church, but found him most
interesting. I didn’t know they had any conservatives on satellite but
they do. First, he has written and produced the movie, Spirit of 76,
about the writing and ratifying of the U.S. Constitution. I will order
it asap and we will probably show it sometime during an OCPAC
meeting.

In his talk he certainly highlighted the positions of the Anti-
Federalists, who over time have shown to have been the wiser when it
comes to an understanding of human kind and the evils of big,
centralized government. He was very charismatic, great with humor and
above all was very substantive. I was concerned with one aspect of his
talk and it is an area I am also suggesting as an important option
that we must increasingly consider when it comes to living under an
ever increasing tyrannical federal government.

Mr. Church didn’t dally around the bush in talking about Oklahoma
seceding from the Union. He expressed a very strong opinion that it
doesn’t matter who we send to Washington, we can’t reform that “rat’s
nest” (my words) by electing different people to go there. I actually
believe it will be very difficult to accomplish real and significant
change in Washington, but I don’t believe we should give up on the
effort. Washington WILL NOT be changed without at least a political
uprising from the voters through out the more conservative areas of
the nation.

The effort to educate and motivate a sufficient number of voters
toward the ideas of LIBERTY must be our number one priority. However,
at the same time we should not rule out the eventual possibility for
Oklahoma and several other states, at some time in the future, to be
left with no other choice but to separate or live in slavery under the
liberty destroying tyranny of the federal government.

Part of that process is to get people to at least contemplate such a
move and at the same time prepare ourselves and our state to get
prepared for such. That is why, I believe the most important issue in
the up coming election cycle is the 10th amendment movement. It is
time for voters to find out what elected officials or candidates, from
county sheriffs and commissioners all the way up through legislative
and congressional candidates understand about the enumerated powers of
the federal government and the 10th Amendment.

We must people who will find creative ways to promote liberty and
resist the unconstitutional interferences of the federal government.
If a candidate or elected official isn’t willing to explain where they
are willing to draw the line in the sand as far as just how much
slavery and government control they are willing to live under, then
they should be replaced by someone who will. Someone who has a respect
for our God given rights and takes their oath of office seriously. I
really enjoyed Saturday evening, meeting ever more of the 912 folks
and take my hat off to them for bringing such a fire brand of a
speaker to OKC.

+ MY LIFE, LIKE SWIMMING UPSTREAM IN PEANUT BUTTER

While I have had my moments of being influenced by fads and majority
opinion, I have been labeled by some as a “contrarian.” While my dad
might have a little different perspective, in looking back over my
life it seems like since at least the 3rd grade, many of my opinions
and values have had me going against the grain more often than not.
Kind of like going through life as a person who is swimming upstream
in peanut butter. Part of that time as a hard headed rebel toward God
and then since really responding to Jesus in 1973 as a bit of
unconventional Christian who is wary of religious traditions of men.

I said all of that to put it into perspective the following. This past
week one of my customers asked if I thought the economy was improving?
I could see my answer was a bit disturbing when I said, I hope not!
She asked me why and the following is my explanation.

Over the past 200 plus years America has covered a lot of ground and
gone through a lot of change. We once cherished liberty, had sound
money, believed in free enterprise, had a judicial system, though not
perfect, it was the envy of the world, agreed in principle to a set of
high moral standards, were a manufacturing giant and had the most
powerful economy in the world.

Today, we seek safety, security and provision, have worthless paper
currency masquerading as money, rarely start a new business without
seeking government subsidies or partnerships, live under an activist
judicial system, despise moral and ethical standards, have sent our
manufacturing capabilities to our enemy Communist China (we now call
them our trading partner) and are watching our nation race toward the
bottom when it comes to a debt free vibrant economy.

So, what has caused this change? We have, the majority opinion, not
those who live life as a conservative and patriotic contrarian. The
majority has been wrong for a long time. Look at the mess the majority
has produced. That is not to say that all contrarians are on the right
path. But the majority has it wrong most of the time. Our current
economic upheaval didn’t just happen or did it come upon us over
night. We are in this condition because of many bad decisions over the
past 100 plus years. Decisions that have violated the principles of
sound money. As a nation, we have violated the principles as thought
in the parable of the talents, expressed in Mathew 25, verses 14-30.

The gist of the parable is that the talents represent the gifts that
God has placed in every person to be productive in the earth and to
use to glorify Him. The teaching of the parable is that God rewards
productivity and faithfulness and he punishes the unproductive and
unfaithful. The Marxist model flies in the face of this Biblical
model. Marx suggested, through a progressive income tax, punishing the
productive and rewarding the unproductive, thus standing the Biblical
model on its head.

Under Marx’s ideology we live under the code, from each according to
their own, to each according to their need. In other words, we re-
distribute wealth. The re-distribution of wealth is the PRIMARY cause
of our nation being nearly 12 Trillion in debt as well as being on the
hook for an additional 45 Trillion or more in unfunded obligations,
such as future social security, medicare and federal retirement
payments.

Now here is the situation. The radical leftists, socialists, fascists
and the communists (yes the “C” word) are in control. The well being
of America is at as great a time of risk as any time since the
colonists fired on the British and subsequently fought an 8 year war
to make our independence stick.

This past Saturday night we had about 200 people attend the 912
barbeque which is a good crowd. But the numbers should have been in
the thousands wanting to get involved, learning about our history,
learning about sound money principles and willing to work to re-build
our nation. Unfortunately, the thousands we in Bricktown participating
in a Halloween parade and celebration a week out from the actual day.
They were there listening to the music of the Flaming Lips, a rock
group that in my opinion hates Christianity and loves Karl Marx. I saw
an interview on the news with one of the revelers, an apparent goober,
intoxicated with rebellion, debauchery and foolishness. Someone who
had his face all painted up and exclaimed who wouldn’t want to be here
at such a cool event.

To answer his question, I wouldn’t want to be there. What he values
and his priorities in life are nothing more than futile and silly to
me. He has no discernment of that which is good and that which is
useless and wasting away. This is why I don’t want our economy to get
better, for the downturn hasn’t been bad enough to wake people up to
our condition. In addition, most people, even many conservatives,
aren’t looking to understand how we got here, what are our root
problems and what dramatic changes we might need to make to set us on
a different course. Too many people just want things to get BETTER so
we can get back to life as it was before the recent turmoil.

Now I have to admit, I don’t relish the idea of hard times sufficient
to wake up America. But, for a long time I have been saying that we
have violated sound economic principles and some day there will have
to be a correction. The longer we continue to manipulate our economy
and violate sound principles, the more severe the correction will be.
There are still too many people just going through life without
concern or proper understanding. Therefore, dear Lord, if it takes
much tougher times to get a sufficient number of people’s attention to
cause us to start looking in the right places for answers, then I say
bring it own, I am willing to suffer through those hard times along
with others.

+ I HAVE BECOME A GLEN BECK CONVERT

I have to admit, when Glen Beck’s radio program started on KTOK I
almost always found something else to listen to. While I agreed with a
good deal of his content, I just didn’t and still don’t care for his
style on radio. However, earlier this year I found an inexpensive
satellite provider that has the FOX NETWORK as part of a bare bones
package. With DVR capabilities, it is only $30 bucks a month and so I
finally gave in and have recently learned how to use the DVR. Now I am
able to view the Glen Beck program which comes on at 4:00 CST, a time
never available for my schedule to view TV.

While it is always a challenge for me to find the time to watch much
TV, I have been able to see several of his programs since this past
July. I have been blown away by the content, creativity and
effectiveness of his programming. O’Riley is arrogant and his program
is little more than hit and miss. Hannity is too repetitive and as
long as he keeps having phony conservatives (Mike Church calls them
deceptacons) like Newt Gingrich, J.C. Watts and Rudy Giuliani on his
programs as people who have answers, he is simply too far off the
mark.

On the other hand, Glen Beck is red hot and on fire but needs an ever
larger audience. The way he exposes evil and teaches about solutions
is amazing. While I will never agree with him or anyone else on
everything. His program is well worth making it a priority to view. It
is the best thing on TV anywhere at this time in my opinion.

Please remember, if you want to respond to anything in these e-mails,
Google does not forward your replies to me, you must send an e-mail
directly to my address which always follows my sign off. I look
forward to seeing everyone this Wednesday

Charlie Meadows
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[Charlie Meadows]

Members and friends of the Oklahoma Conservative Political Action

Committee (OCPAC)

+ AGENDA FOR THIS WEEK’S MEETING
+ ANNOUNCEMENTS

+ RESPONSES TO MY STATEMENTS ABOUT GLEN BECK
+ MIKE CHRISTIAN EXERCISING 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHTS
+ NEW YORK 23, THE PERFECT CONSERVATIVE STORM
+ HATE CRIMES PASSES, LOCAL HOMO’S STILL FULL OF VITRIOL

+ AGENDA FOR THIS WEEK’S MEETING

Our 12 noon luncheon for Wednesday, November 4th will be held at
Italiano’s restaurant, 4801 North Lincoln in OKC. Our speaker this
week will be OKC businessman Moshe Tal. Mr. Tal has probably been
abused by government through the process of “eminent domain” more than
any other citizen in Oklahoma. Having heard his story, with 2 active
law suits still on going, I believe that some of the good “old boys”
who control city hall, influenced government to steal prime brick town
property from Mr. Tal. Perhaps it was done to teach him a lesson about
not going along to get along as well as the ingratiate themselves.
Please don’t miss this meeting, it is important to understand how the
elitist appear to throw moral goodness aside in their quest to sculpt
the future of OKC.

I also want to thank Mr. Gill Hensley, OKC police officer and
President of the OKC Fraternal Order of Police, for clearing his
schedule last week at the last minute to come and speak at OCPAC. Key
point, the FOP never asked for a raise for police during contract
negotiations, but rather have the city find a way to increase the
number of officers on the streets. The number of officers have only
increased 1% over the past 20 years, while at the same time the
population has increased about 100,000, thus increasing their work
load significantly. Several weeks ago the FOP, along with the
firefighters, voted NOT to support MAPS 3. Mr. Hensley did a good job
of explaining why. To my knowledge, the Oklahoman has still failed to
report this significant news story!

+ ANNOUNCEMENTS

PURCELL OK - I will be conducting another introduction to activism
through the John Birch Society meeting, 7:00 p.m. in the conference
center at the First American Bank, Main street and Lester Lane. The
most radical leftists, socialists, Marxists and Communists are now in
control of our nation. Many of these are Godless and immoral people
who have a very different vision for America, far different from the
values and principles of our Founding Fathers. If you live in the
area, please make every effort to attend, these people must be
stopped.

OKC AREA - Our good friend, Jerry Fent, constitutionalist citizen
watchdog, has just brought a legal action against Governor Brad Henry,
ET AL regarding stimulus money coming into Oklahoma. Even though
President Obama and the Democrats have directed much of that money
into the hands of the Governor and other assorted bureaucrats, that
method seems to fly into the face of Oklahoma’s State Constitution.
Fent is claiming that Article 10, section 23 of Oklahoma’s
Constitution requires all of those monies to be budgeted by the
legislature. He will deliver oral argument before a referee, November
4, 2009 at 10:30 a.m. I believe the Supreme Court chambers are on the
2nd or 3rd floor at the Capitol. If you have time please attend to
keep an eye on the performance of our highest court. I predict they
will stall on this decision to allow as much of the money as possible
to be spent before they make a decision.

OKC AREA - Various tea party groups are hosting the Tea Party
Express bus traveling cross country raising objections to the liberal
socialist health care reform as well as cap and trade legislation now
in Congress. The bus will stop in OKC this Wednesday evening, November
4th at 6:00 p.m.. The location is the North Plaza of the State
Capitol. They have a program planned with speakers and entertainment.
It is important to attend so the Marxists in Washington know we
haven’t fallen asleep. The only area of concern I have is to make sure
this movement isn’t co-opted by elements promoting a Constitutional
Convention. Those rumblings are out there from various sources. Such a
move would be disastrous in today’s political and cultural climate. A
con-con is a horrible idea and very dangerous.

CRESCENT OK - Thursday night November 5th at 7:00 p.m. there will be
a town hall meeting at the community center. Speaking will be State
Representative Jason Murphy (R-Guthrie), State Senator Patrick
Anderson (R-Enid) and the local County Commissioner. These meetings
are very informative and allow for questions to be asked of your
elected officials.

YUKON OK - Thursday night November 5th at 7:00 p.m., Bob Donohoo
will be conducting an introduction to activism through the John Birch
Society meeting. The location will be Trinity Baptist Church, 600
North Cemetery Rd (Garth Brooks Blvd. about 8 blocks South of I-40). I
can’t express how important it is to organize and get involved. The
future of our nation is at risk and we can’t re-claim it without being
organized and active in effective organizations. Please attend and
check it out for yourself. Bob does an excellent job of presenting the
Society and its activities.

TULSA AREA - Friday evening, November 6, the Augustine Christian
Academy will host their annual fundraising banquet at the Renaissance
Tulsa Hotel, 6807 S. 107 East Ave. The speaker will be Mart Green, of
Hobby Lobby and Mardels. The Green family rescued ORU from financial
ruin and Mr. Green now sits as Chairman of the Board of the
University. We had Mart speak at OCPAC a few years ago and found him
to be a very inspiring Christian. Anyone attending will be blessed and
support an excellent school which operates under the Christian
Classical Education model. The tickets are only $25. For more
information and reservations call (918) 832-4600 or www.acutulsa.org.

TULSA AREA - A new organization, the Oklahoma Second Amendment
Association, www.ok2a.org will host a Gun Rights Rally. It will be
Saturday, November 7th, 10:00 a.m. at the Tulsa Tech Career Services
Center, 3420 South Memorial Drive. The keynote speaker will be Larry
Pratt, founder and director of Gun Owners of America. GOA is the “no
comprise” defender of the Second Amendment and in my opinion a far
superior organization ideologically speaking than the NRA. Also
speaking will be Senator Randy Brogdon (R-Owasso) and Representative
Mike Ritze (R-Broken Arrow).

OKC AREA - The same organization mentioned above will also host a
similar meeting this Saturday evening, November 7th at 7:00 p.m. in
the Character First Center, 520 West Main in downtown OKC. Along with
the keynote speaker Larry Pratt, will be Senator Brogdon and this time
State Representative Jason Murphy (R-Guthrie). I hope as many people
as possible will attend these meetings in your part of the state. I
will be joining and supporting this new organization asap.

+ RESPONSES TO MY STATEMENTS ABOUT GLEN BECK

Last week I mentioned that I had become a convert to the Glen Beck TV
show. One friend wrote something like, I told you so 3 years ago, why
didn’t you listen to me then? On the other side of the coin a reader
sent me 2 or 3 very well written e-mails about the mistake I had made.
The main e-mail suggested a concern that because of Beck’s
relationship to Rupert Murdock and Roger Ailes, that he may be nothing
more than a pied piper to lead people who are upset today, back into
the Republican fold in time for next year’s election.

He was concerned that Beck might be little more than a “containment
agent” to provide very good programming about the radical liberals,
Marxists, fascists and Communists who now control Washington. Those
are all important aspects of our enemies. However, this individual
suggested that if Beck never dealt with those organizations within our
nation that have a globalist agenda, then Beck would never get to the
heart of the matter in his excellent exposés.

Those organization would be groups like The Council on Foreign
Relations, The Trilateral Commission, the Yale University secret
society known as Skull and Bones, the Bildebergers, and perhaps
others. I know, one is not supposed to suggest these organizations
have any power or are detrimental to our nation, to do so will get you
labeled as a conspiracy nut. However, every organization that exists
does so for a purpose and has an agenda. A little research on the
power and influence of these organizations by intellectually honest
people desiring to understand the truth, might reveal rational people
are concerned about these organizations and with good reason.

Only time will tell regarding Beck. I do have hope that he will go
deeper than the surface, deeper than the superficial. Part of the
reason for my hope is a radio program of his I heard about 4 months
ago (while I like his TV program, I don’t like his radio program and
rarely listen).

However, there was this one day that he was talking about a book
written with a plan to convert America into a socialist utopia as
envisioned by Karl Marx. He kept quoting from the book and telling his
listeners, this is exactly what has happened. Beck kept saying that
what the author envisioned years ago is here today and the steps to
get to today were laid out in the book.

So what was the book? It was none other than Philip Dru:
Administrator, written by Colonel Edward Mandell House in 1912. House
was President Woodrow Wilson’s right hand man, some have even
suggested his alter ego. More importantly, House founded the Council
On Foreign Relations (CFR) in 1921. Today it is the most influential
organization in America working toward integrating American into
first, a regional and then eventually into a one world global
socialist society. What Beck is doing today is good, if he really gets
into the heart of the matter it will be great. If he doesn’t, he will
be little more than another version of Sean Hanity, Rush Limbaugh or
others. Time will tell, in the mean time take him for what is good and
you will have to dig a little deeper to understand the total picture.
May I suggest reading the book Phillip Drew Administrator and even
more importantly SHADOWS OF POWER by James Perloff.

+ MIKE CHRISTIAN EXERCISING SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS

There was an article in the paper recently about State Representative
Mike Christian (R-South OKC) having special permission to carry a
weapon into the State Capitol, though citizens with concealed carry
permits are not allowed that permission. Representative Christian is a
retired highway patrol trooper and as such falls into a special
category for retired or active duty law enforcement.

Mike said he began to carry a weapon as a result of death threats
after he spoke at a hearing to make English the official language of
Oklahoma. Other retired law enforcement officers, now serving as
lawmakers (all Democrats) were interviewed and said they felt safe at
the Capitol without being armed. Christian said, and with good reason,
that he didn’t like to leave a weapon in a locked auto, but locks it
in a cabinet once in the Capitol. It is really not about being safe at
the Capitol as much as it is, where are you going to leave a firearm
if you can’t even take it onto government property, yet you need it
once you are on the tough streets at home in your district?

Many of our laws regarding the ability to own and carry arms are
antiquated and emanate from irrational fear. Sally Kern, Tim Pope and
many other lawmakers have been the target of death threats over the
years. What is needed is to liberalize (can’t believe I used that
word) existing gun laws to allow for all law abiding citizens (not
just law enforcement personnel) to be able to carry guns anywhere on
government property in which they believe they or someone else might
be in danger. This especially applies to government property. To do
anything else, is to deny people from being able to protect themselves
and others and that is evil.

+ NEW YORK 23RD DISTRICT, THE PERFECT POLITICAL STORM

Most people who keep up with what is going on in the world, know about
the special election in upstate New York to fill the recently vacated
Congressional seat for District 23. This race has national
implications which many believe will be a harbinger for the 2010
elections and the rebuilding of the Republican party.

Republican candidate Scozzafava is (though the election is Tuesday,
she has just shut down her campaign) an ultra liberal Republican
picked to be the Republican candidate. This was done by a select
committee of party establishment types looking for a Republican
victory. She was not elected by a vote of the people in a Republican
primary. The party conservatives as well as folks affiliated with the
tea parties and the 912 project said no more to these Republicans In
Name Only (RINOs).

They fielded a conservative 3rd party candidate and drew a line in the
sand. They said the party hasn’t learned its lesson as yet. They have
said, we will no longer be kept on the “plantation” of, no where else
to go with my vote. They have said, no more Republicans are going to
get my vote unless they actually are conservative. These voting
citizens have become principled, saying to the party, we will give
even more seats to the Democrats if you keep giving us these crappy
candidates, that is unless the more moderate Republicans are willing
to back a conservative candidate.

Once radio talk show hosts and Fox commentators as well as high
profile conservatives all over America began to endorse the
Conservative party candidate Doug Hoffman, he began to rise in the
polls and has just now inched ahead of the Democrat at the expense of
the liberal Republican.

If the Conservative party candidate wins this election, it will be a
huge message to the establishment Republicans and especially to
President Obama and the other Democrats considering the continuation
of their liberal agenda. Republicans should end the debate as to how
to re-brand the party. All future candidates should be fiscal
conservatives, social conservatives and national sovereignty
conservatives at the same time. Those are the kind of candidates
capable of building a big tent party that attracts the widest possible
groups of interests. At the same time it would cause the Republicans
to become a party that would govern conservatively in all 3 areas of
government.

+ HATE CRIMES PASSES, LOCAL HOMO’S STILL FULL OF VITRIOL

This past week President Obama signed legislation that had hate crimes
added to it through the amendment process. Pastor Paul Blair of
Fairview Baptist Church in Edmond spoke out against the legislation,
explaining some of the ways the new law will likely be interpreted and
end up eventually punishing Christian pastors as well as Biblical
Christians.

On a local Democrat blog site, they attack Blair as being stupid and
even worse. They paint with a broad brush and suggest Blair simply
joins other nut cases such as Sally Kern, Janet Folger, David Barton,
Bill Federer, Rick Scarbrough and others. Put me on record as liking
everyone of those folks, I want to be counted among their ranks. By
the way, we have had every one of them as a speaker at OCPAC over the
years. One of those commenting on the Democrat blog warned that he had
observed these people up close and that they were serious and should
not be taken lightly.

He talked about attending last year’s Re-claiming Oklahoma for Christ
conference and was sickened by what he saw. He suggested that he could
tell we “hate” homosexuals, because that is how we refer to them
rather than use the word “gay.” I understand how people who have been
given over to a reprobate mind have a difficult time properly
understanding issues. Let me try to help.

The word homosexual is the proper dictionary word to define a person
who has sex with a person of the same sex. The word “gay“ means happy
and light hearted. Today that word has been stolen by the homosexuals
to put the best spin possible on their unhappy lifestyle. It is a
perversion of the word “gay” to use it in reference to homosexuals. To
use words like fags, faggots, queers and etc. might be an indication
that a person hates homosexuals.

As a Christian we are taught to love a sinner, but hate the sin, no
matter what that sin may be. In all reality, all homosexuals are
victims of a lie. That lie being that they aren’t in rebellion towards
God in the practice of their lifestyle, that they have no choice to
overcome that lifestyle, no matter how inclined toward it they may
happen to be. There are many who have overcome that sin and now live
in a happy relationship with God. There are many pastors and
Christians as well as organizations like First Stone Ministries
willing to help homosexuals overcome their lifestyle.