Censorship on FB

[Sugar OccupyChi]

Hi,

I have gotten a report of multiple posts being removed by FB admin
people almost instantly. It is my understanding that we have a no
Censorship policy. If there is something violent or threatening that
needs attention, contact legal or the police liaisons to handle it.

Just a friendly reminder,
Sugar

[Sara]

I agree.  I think there should be no censorship on the twitter or facebook.  The website is a different story though.

[Andrew Smith]

I agree with censorship issues for any media we are connected with but sometimes snap judgements need to be made. People will make mistakes, perhaps we just need to keep in mind that with an audience this large looking at us to choose words carefully and make sure we are not disseminating false info.

[Sara]

Then that's something you can go over with the facebook admins and people with access to the twitter.  There should be policies created and enacted that all facebook admins or individuals with access to the twitter should have to follow.

 

This will keep there from being any issues regarding censorship or alarmist tweets.

 

BUT, UNLESS SOMEONE ADVOCATES VIOLENCE, NO FACEBOOK POSTS SHOULD BE TAKEN DOWN.  EVEN IF THEY ARE RUDE AND CRITIQUING OUR MOVEMENT.

[micah philbrook]

we have to make sure we are disseminating correct information. if it comes from us, our official facebook or twitter, it has to be accurate and reflect the o pinion of the movement.

but we shouldn't censor individual opinions posted as such.

my thoughts,
-micah
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sent from micah's lifestyle device. please disregard typos.

[Andrew Smith]

I agree with micah. Be aware though ad far as I know the tech committee has no idea who is admins on fb or twitter. That is a social media committee or something lol

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[Andrew Smith]

I would have to agree Michah 

[Mark Banks]

I think it's hypocritical to have a policy that states that there will be no censorship unless it relates to violence.  I'm non-violent, but what does it mean if people can post something like 'Occupy chicago sucks black homosexual dicks' and it stays up but something that says something like 'passive resistance is not enough' must come down?  (PLEASE DO NOT REACT ALL CRAZY TO WHAT I JUST TYPED....IT'S ONLY A HYPOTHETICAL EXAMPLE OF THE KIND OF MADNESS THAT IS POSSIBLE!)

Remember that people create fake accounts just to post bullshit.  This censorship issue is not an easy one. 

-Mark

[Andrew Smith]

Could not agree more mark. I think the issue here is what is posted via the pages account and credited as coming from OccupyChi though. 

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[Sara]

Like what Andrew said: "I think the issue here is what is posted via the pages account and credited as coming from OccupyChi though." 

 

if someone wants to post insane nonsense with their own names let them do it.  The Supreme Court of the United States ruled that Westboro Baptist Church's hate speech is free speech, so we should do the same.

 

Like Andrew said, we should only worry about what our official spokespeople are saying. 

 

Who cares what anybody else says.  This is America, we have free speech, let them say what they want as long as it is non-violent.  Even if it is: "Occupy Chicago sucks donkey dicks."  It's vulgar and rude, but it's still someone exercising their right to be vulgar and crude.

 

No censorship, our admins should have to take lessons on what they should or should not tweet or post though, since they are acting on behalf of all of us.

[Andrew Smith]

Agreed

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[Sugar OccupyChi]

My issue of censorship is that posts are being removed that should not
be. None should not be. If it is a threat of violence, it needs to be
reported to legal and they will tell you to take it down once the
police have gotten what they need from that.

my thoughts anyway...

[Sara]

Agree with Sugar.

[Ben S]

I have been miserably sick for a week, and just getting back into the swing of things. I've been following these threads and I have a suggestion ...

Instead of having a rule against what is allowed to go up, what about coming up with a rule dictating what needs to come down.

If you notice something you think should be removed, consult with someone/a delegated group, and determine if it should be brought down.

Having a rule about what goes UP may hinder productivity of information being relayed ....

Ben Stephens

--
Ben

[Ze Garcia]

Not ok with using violence to combat violence, Sugar. Meaning you are using violent and repressive methods IE calling the FB POLICE to come down on some asshole that is not using FB as his vehicle or call to arms to use violence but simply just using cliche molotov rhetoric. 

All this talk about turning in people to the police who are "out of line" with MSM Occupy Chi need to cool that shit. 

[Sugar OccupyChi]

Stupid FB.... So the entire cause of this problem is that FB made a
new default that shows only the admin postings. To view all postings,
including yours, Above where you type in what you would like to post,
you now have to click on view Everyone in order to see everyone.
Otherwise you only see the default of the admin posts. So there is no
censorship. Sorry about the confusion.

DAMN YOU FB!!!!!!! *Shakes fist in the air*

AND apparently the media group is not really the media group, at least
not social media. They use those chat room things... which not
everyone can. So this is why we were not hearing back from them.

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Sugar OccupyChi
<occupyc...@gmail.com> wrote:

[micah philbrook]

ha.
i'm glad that is settled.
:)

-micah

[Sarah Whitford]

Me too Micah!!! 

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[Sugar OccupyChi]

I second... ok third that!