Pepakura

[Brittany Coxon]

Hey gang,

I'm investigating Pepakura for a few projects (http://www.tamasoft.co.jp/pepakura-en/).

Has anyone here used it? Basically takes 3D model files and makes them into nets for paper based fun. I intend to use it in combination with my silhouette cameo - or possibly the laser cutter eventually. It looks about as intuitive as you'd expect.

There's a trial version so I'm going to dive in and see how that goes. Any hints, tips are welcome.

Britt

[Alistair MacDonald]

I have come across it at a BarCamp a few years ago now. I did have a
look back then but it cost money and I did not have a real need for
it. Now we have a paper cutter in the space so perhaps another look is
on the cards. Do let us know how you get on with the demo.

Alistair

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[Brittany Coxon]

It seems to get a lot of heavy use from the cosplay community who spend hours cutting the bits by hand. I'm hoping to skip that step.

[Ed Bisdee]

I think dwain uses it a lot

I'm quite interested, but i don't have a windows machine! Or enough spare time...
Ive started looking at using some of that thin hips plastic cut out on the laser cutter to make papercraft masks from.

[Martin Raynsford]

I love it, it's a massively underrated tool, especially when combined with the laser cutter. Definitely load it up and give it a try and you'll be buying a license in no time at all :)

http://msraynsford.blogspot.co.uk/search?q=pepakura

[Dwain Cox]

been using it for a number of year now if you need help give me a shout here is my cosplay site http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=184226

[Brittany Coxon]

Progress. Made with pepakura and brain numbing.

A mathematical Christmas. Any good resources for nice mathematical shapes I should be looking at?

On 26 October 2015 at 15:29, Dwain Cox <dwain...@gmail.com> wrote:

been using it for a number of year now if you need help give me a shout here is my cosplay site http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=184226

[Justas B]

Nice work! 

I love their work and I suggest checking these out:
Carlo Scarpa - those "steps" in geometrical forms, magical.
Brutalist Architects - minimalist structures-forms, crazily connected, surreal (https://www.pinterest.com/justasbo/brutalist/ - my inspirational collection)
Also very popular 3D surrealism, not sure how this genre is actually called - some selected artists here https://www.pinterest.com/justasbo/neo-surrealists/

I would love to collaborate on this and I think you might see me doing similar stuff soon haha. For my first Pepakura I took a more difficult project, than initially planned, head modelling:

[Brittany Coxon]

I've been looking at doing a 3D paper Tyne bridges... maybe I'll start with some brutalist architecture instead.

Good luck with the head. I'm going to try and teach myself blender over January while things are quiet but doubt I'll try anything as complex as that.

[Justas B]

Use Brutalism as inspiration, don't copy, haha. P.S. It took me two days to make head without any previous knowledge of blender.

[Alistair MacDonald]

How did the investigation get on? We are in need of a large penguin for the Christmas window and a paper one would be both a solution and cool.

  Alistair

[glenb]

How large ?

[Alistair MacDonald]

About the size of the top of Gray's moment (the penguin one in the space and not the big one down the road).

  Alistair

[Justas B]

Here are some pictures from the event for which I designed them (actually happened just this Saturday)

In my opinion: we could have used much more planes for a design, it would take more time to assemble, but would look even more realistic (if realistic effect is needed)

[Alistair MacDonald]

Note they look good. I think we would prefer it to be more blocky than realistic.

  Alistair

[glenb]

This would probably be a good way to do it.

http://www.123dapp.com/make

We have the original STL right ?
Just need to scale it and laser cut it. Stack the slices (with suitable spacers) then paper over it and paint

G

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About the size of the top of Gray's moment (the penguin one in the space and not the big one down the road).

  Alistair

On 22 Nov 2015 23:13, "glenb" <gl...@technologist.com> wrote:

How large ?

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[Justas B]

It would be less resourceful to use Pepakura :)

It automatically unfolds it to 2D cut/fold out.

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[Martin Raynsford]

Where is the STL? It'll be a few minutes to unwrap it and prep it for lasercutting from pepakura.

Martin

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[Dan Nixon]

I can't hep but think you would get a much higher resolution model by just using the layering that was already planned.

The ratio of time taken to create versus time taken to destroy doesn't make intricate paper things very appealing (for me at least).

Dan

[Glen Beestone]

i am happy to be provven wrong but i kinda get the inprerssion the pepkuira version will end up coming out looking ike this :-)

 

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:212451 unless it get s a hell of a lot of finishing off

 

whereas as layered version would look like this 

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=make+123d+penguin&view=detailv2&&id=75819656008E580AE2ED69654E07F09176987C3E&selectedIndex=0&ccid=MhmZKxqB&simid=608022487772957849&thid=OIP.M3219992b1a81fc02bb1bb4ade7cc9abco0&ajaxhist=0

 

And need only only need minimal finishing

 

 

G

 

 

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[Martin Raynsford]

I would aim for something much more like this
http://i.imgur.com/s6dTdnP.png

Sorry, I thought the issue was to make something low poly. If you want a neat smooth finished penguin there are better ways.

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[Brittany Coxon]

Depending on the amount of time you're willing to spend folding and cutting a higher poly is possible.

http://papermau.blogspot.com.br/2015/01/emperor-penguin-paper-model-by.html - but this one looks good.

You can do a lot with texture.

[Alistair MacDonald]

The STL file for 3D printing is at http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1063738 and Chris is going to generate one without the supports soon.

He was 3D printing it but his printer died and it is over a day's printing. It was suggested we could use the paper cutter (that is to small, but we have a big laser bed) and then we remembered Pepakura. The layered cutting Glen Suggests is still an option but it is a lot of work and I think a paper (well, okay, thin card) penguin could look quite cool.

If someone wants to run with it and make a penguin of the correct size using any technique we will be most grateful. (hint, hint)

  Alistair

[Dan Nixon]

It depends on how detailed you want it to be, I'm not sure how good a low resolution penguin would actually look.

And the layered technique does not require that much work, I used to use it all the time for enclosures that were not basic boxes.

I did offer to do it using this technique using 3mm MDF a while ago but never heard anything so assumed Chris was doing it.

Dan

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[Martin Raynsford]

Brittany's low poly penguin is much more suited to Pepakura, you can still print one in full colour and align that in the laser to cut it out.

http://www.instructables.com/id/Hiro-Hamada-Papercraft-Helmet/

I would make one but I doubt it would fit in the post.

[glenb]

I may have a go tonight.
Can anyone tell me how big it needs to be ?

G

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[Alistair MacDonald]

Can anyone tell me how big it needs to be ?

It needs to sit on top of the monument in the machine room. It will have a wider base round it so I presume can overhang a little if needed. I am going to guess 18cm but Chris B will be able to give a more accurate number. I will email him direct juts in case he misses this.

  Alistair

 

[Brian Degger]

Fablab paper cutter? We can make it human sized

[Alistair MacDonald]

That is a daft idea. Let's do it! :-)

  Alistair

[Alistair MacDonald]

Just had word from Chris and he was aiming for a 20cm high penguin. He does not have the file to remove the supports at the moment so it might be quicker to remove them manually.

  Alistair

[Brian Degger]

20m high penguin! (dimension fo angel of north 20.0 m x 54.0 m)

20 m high penguin. (penguin of the north) 

 

(ok... lets do a 2m tall one :) 

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[Alistair MacDonald]

No, no, no... 20cm. If a 20m penguin shows up we will have a lot of explaining to do to the city council. While any sentence including the words "Alistair" and "silly mistake" covers most things, a 20m high anything turning up might require a more imaginative excuse.

  Alistair

[Glen]

whichever way we go we need a model without the supports

Chris can you oblige please ?


cheers

Glen

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[Jon Davies]

I'm cutting a model later today, which I sliced in Skeinforge using the 'laser' profile on the 'chop' option. Many conversions and faffing later, I have a series of slices arranged on the bed in LaserCut and will commence cutting when LED Chris is present.  I know he wants to see this model come to life, otherwise I would have cut it an hour ago when I was the last in the space :)

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[glenb]

Ouch that all sounds like hard work.
123D make (free software )will do that for you in seconds including laying it all out on a specified material size of your choice and in a variety of styles. You can choose to stscl or to interloolck for example You can choose which direction the layers go (vertical is best for a tall object it reduces the number of layers you need to stick together.) And all your pieces come out marked which order they assemble in

Check it out.before you fire up the laser

(It also does pepakura layouts as well as slices)

G

[Jon Davies]

I probably missed an email off this list and didn't see that software recommendation originally. Or I did a really pants Google search. Will give it a quick bash.

[glenb]

http://www.123dapp.com/make

[Jon Davies]

Except I don't see how you export to a DXF from it, so not getting very far...it's superb other than it is currently making itself very difficult to use outside well defined bounds for production and export.

Ended up using my existing faffy already laid out and ready to cut .ecp file and got 'Earl Pingu' cut and glued.

Will explore the 123D Make package a bit more the next time I need to create a large 3D model that is more suited to the laser cutter. (And maybe for other things too?)

[David Pye]

Dan's got a script that uses openscad to slice an STL file at specified layers to make a pile of DXFs for cut/glue :-)

David

[Jon Davies]

I've heard of this all too late.  Not really applicable for the finished item, but noteworthy for the future if I can remember...