SPEED DATE APPROACHING!!!

[Pam]

Hi everyone,
The date for the Speed Date an Author Event is fast approaching.
If you haven't signed up, or if you have but now find you can't attend, please follow this link and update.
I have to let Erik know how many authors we have. The more the merrier! So please try to attend.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjcK08veDam6dFg4T2VGWkdoQ3U1M1B0bHFYZlg3UWc#gid=0

[Brad Wheeler]

Your flier is missing someone particularly important!

*cough*

Ahem. Dusty in here.

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Pam <pam.bainbr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Here's a flier where you can find all the info, or use it to promote the event.

Thanks!

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[Brad Wheeler]

That said, I will definitely be there.

[Andy Bunch]

yeah, I remember a long time ago when Pam made the template for that poster she used an event we weren't all going to. She said at the time it would probably mean that some people were advertised for events they weren't coming to and someone would get left off when they'd be there. My old cover is in the middle but my face doesn't appear (probably a good thing). It would be good to change the names though.

Hopefully we get a few more people, this could be a fun event and only an hour and a half out of the day. People have to see your book and your name several times before they buy. So exposure is good.

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[Jennifer Willis]

Yeah, I didn't make it onto the flier either...

What time do you need for us to arrive? What should we bring with us, or do to prepare?

-- Jen

[Pam]

What a bunch-o-whiners. Celebrities! So difficult.
I'll be back with changes.

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[Jennifer Willis]

Yes, we are an insufferable lot. Or we just want to make sure attendees know what they're getting themselves into; I'd hate to have people show up for the event and then run screaming for the hills after they get a look at us.

[Brad Wheeler]

Plus, you're giving up the hordes of people that my fame--nay, my image alone--would draw in.

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Yes, we are an insufferable lot. Or we just want to make sure attendees know what they're getting themselves into; I'd hate to have people show up for the event and then run screaming for the hills after they get a look at us.

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[Brad Wheeler]

Thanks, Pam! You're a real sport to put up with us on the best of days.

[Pam]

Okay you guys. How's this? No faces at all, just your pretty covers to draw them in.

On Monday, July 30, 2012 4:04:08 PM UTC-7, Brad Wheeler wrote:

Your flier is missing someone particularly important!

*cough*

Ahem. Dusty in here.

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Pam <pam.bainbridge.cowan@gmail.com> wrote:

Here's a flier where you can find all the info, or use it to promote the event.

Thanks!

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[Andy Bunch]

I like it Pam.

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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:54:29 -0700
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[Jennifer Willis]

Looks good! Although I admit the "authors you might meet" gave me a chuckle—made me wonder if we might as well throw in J.K. Rowling and Ernest Hemingway, too, since there's no guarantee they'll be there. ;)

-- Jen

[Mike]

As much as I really want to be there, that's my middle of the week dinner night with the kiddos. Have fun everyone!

[Pam]

Not surprised Mike. Since the new job you don't show up for much. Is it the money, man? Is it that how it is? Now that you're rollin' in it we don't even get on the radar. *sniffle* It's okay, we'll be fine without you. Fine...

[Andy Bunch]

Oh he'll be there...on drugs. Woot! This should be a good one.

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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:43:43 -0700

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[Jennifer Willis]

Oh, gee. Can I sit next to Andy?

-- Jen

[Andy Bunch]

Yes, yes you can. Although I got my events mixed up. Pam's right, Mike won't be at the writers mixer. I will be though! 

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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 19:41:15 -0700
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[Pam]

Now Jen, you know good and well we can't be tossing in dead people.
Lisa and I will be there at 6:30 so if you want to get there around then so you can set up it would be great.

[Pam]

Now Jen, you know we can't just go tossing in dead people.

Lisa and I will be there at 6:30 to set up our books and whatever so if you can be there by then that would be great.
Really appreciate you going. I promised 7 authors, and if everyone flakes we're going to look like total losers, and that's the last gig we'll get from Community Libraries!

On Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:33:45 AM UTC-7, Jennifer Willis wrote:

[Andy Bunch]

I'll shoot for being there at 6:30, I don't know if I'll get a chance to carpool or not. I'll make it there either way.

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[Jennifer Willis]

I don't have any materials to set up—it's just me. I'm still kind of unclear on what the format/purpose is...? But I'll be there. :)

-- Jen

[Andy Bunch]

If you have book marks or cards etc, that's be great. Mostly you'll be at a table and people will come sit with you for a few minutes and talk about writing. You can answer questions about the craft of writing/publishing and maybe get them excited about you, and your book by proxy. 

On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Jennifer Willis <rev...@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't have any materials to set up—it's just me. I'm still kind of unclear on what the format/purpose is...? But I'll be there. :)

-- Jen

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[Jennifer Willis]

Thanks, Andy!

-- Jen

[Tonya Macalino]

Thanks so much, Pam, for setting up this Speed Dating event! Ray and I had a lot of fun and it was so good to see you all again!

[Adam Copeland]

Yes Pam, thanks so much!


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Tonya Macalino <to...@tonyamacalino.com> wrote:

Thanks so much, Pam, for setting up this Speed Dating event! Ray and I had a lot of fun and it was so good to see you all again!

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[Jennifer Willis]

Thanks, Pam! And, btw, I blogged about last night's event this morning:

http://jennifer-willis.com/2012/08/you-know-more-than-you-think/

-- Jen

[Andy Bunch]

Yep Pam. Thanks for setting that up. It's good for us to do some events that aren't sales oriented. It keeps us grounded in that part of our mission--helping writers learn to write and publish better quality. 

[Pam]

Thank you all for attending the speed date.  I was way more than usually nervous because, well, that was MY name on the contract. I was the one promising I could deliver 5 or more authors and I DID! Thanks to you guys. *applause, whistling sounds, hurray*  BTW this is why I was so giddy afterward. The realization that the event had been super successful was a tremendous relief.

One of the things I learned was, that although the event was not about selling our books, it was a fantastic opportunity for those of us with spin off services to "cross sell." If that's the right word. For instance, Lisa was able to hand out her cards showing that she's an editor and also invited several folks to sign up for her novel writing course at PCC. Tonya was able to do the same, inviting folks to her workshops at Jacobsen's. Had I been interested, I could have drummed up plenty of work doing formatting and covers. Beyond providing emotional support to writers our experience this past year and a half has helped us develop some amazing skills. I can certainly see, for instance, one or two of us creating a workshop on pitching, or how to format from for Amazon. Maybe in the future we'll have to rent a conference space and host our own self publishing workshops. This is what I do as part of my day job so would not be at all difficult for me to set up. Based on the interest we've seen, and if we did some strong marketing, I'm sure we could bring in some learners. I once hosted an all day conference on brain development and after paying the speaker and all the other expenses brought in  $29,000. Of course we had 400 attendees paying $99 each. Still, something we may want to think about.

Another realization I had, especially after hearing some pros ranting against self publishing, was that there are some people out there who are not talented authors but who nonetheless have a story to tell. People who want to be heard and deserve to be heard. No, they are not going to compete with the folks (such as ourselves) who are "real" writers. Nor should they be held to the same standard, but, they do have stories and the indie world gives them an opportunity to be heard. I think it's a very cool thing, and I'm even more determined to advocate for and support indies along the entire spectrum.

Well, off my soap box and back to work. Vacation starts tomorrow so of course there is hell to pay here at the day job.

[Andy Bunch]

Good points Pam. But they still need to hire a editor. Lol.

On Aug 10, 2012 9:32 AM, "Pam" <pam.bainbr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you all for attending the speed date.  I was way more than usually nervous because, well, that was MY name on the contract. I was the one promising I could deliver 5 or more authors and I DID! Thanks to you guys. *applause, whistling sounds, hurray*  BTW this is why I was so giddy afterward. The realization that the event had been super successful was a tremendous relief.

One of the things I learned was, that although the event was not about selling our books, it was a fantastic opportunity for those of us with spin off services to "cross sell." If that's the right word. For instance, Lisa was able to hand out her cards showing that she's an editor and also invited several folks to sign up for her novel writing course at PCC. Tonya was able to do the same, inviting folks to her workshops at Jacobsen's. Had I been interested, I could have drummed up plenty of work doing formatting and covers. Beyond providing emotional support to writers our experience this past year and a half has helped us develop some amazing skills. I can certainly see, for instance, one or two of us creating a workshop on pitching, or how to format from for Amazon. Maybe in the future we'll have to rent a conference space and host our own self publishing workshops. This is what I do as part of my day job so would not be at all difficult for me to set up. Based on the interest we've seen, and if we did some strong marketing, I'm sure we could bring in some learners. I once hosted an all day conference on brain development and after paying the speaker and all the other expenses brought in  $29,000. Of course we had 400 attendees paying $99 each. Still, something we may want to think about.

Another realization I had, especially after hearing some pros ranting against self publishing, was that there are some people out there who are not talented authors but who nonetheless have a story to tell. People who want to be heard and deserve to be heard. No, they are not going to compete with the folks (such as ourselves) who are "real" writers. Nor should they be held to the same standard, but, they do have stories and the indie world gives them an opportunity to be heard. I think it's a very cool thing, and I'm even more determined to advocate for and support indies along the entire spectrum.

Well, off my soap box and back to work. Vacation starts tomorrow so of course there is hell to pay here at the day job.

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> > Yep Pam. Thanks for setting that up. It's good for us to do some events that aren't sales orien...

> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Jennifer Willis <rev...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks, Pam! And,...

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[Pam]

And you could teach the part about what the dif is between a good indie, who does his work and uses readers and editors, and those OTHER people. Hello from Idaho, BTW. Heading to Wyoming now. Toodles. 

[Andy Bunch]

I think you are onto something. This is inline with my vision for NIWA.

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Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 09:17:45 -0700
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[Frances Pauli]

Good luck with this everyone! You make me wish I was closer. 

On that note, we're trying to get organized and get some events going locally. I'm taking tips from y'all and watching very closely. 

:)

Frances

[Andy Bunch]

Awesome Francis,

We looked at doing chapters and it was going to be more work than we could take on in the near future. We really want to hand the power to you folks to organize events and things locally. We also want to be a resource if you have questions, and as the website grows it can answer a lot of questions. 

I think I speak for all the officers when I say that we have a lot of faith in what Indies can do when they get together.  Don't be afraid to do some informal gatherings just to get to know each other, brainstorm what sorts of resources your community needs in order to put out more writing, with better quality, and sell more of it. If we've accomplished anything magical here, its come from leveraging the unique talent, experience, and drive of our members. 

I'll give you this much advice for starters, Indies are like cats. You won't be able to harness them into a rigid structure to pull the same direction. Look for tit-for-tat work trades, info swaps, etc. where each members uniqueness and effort are valued and sharing those things brings fast visible rewards. One aspect of being an "association" is that the group will thrive when you find a sort of mutual, benevolent self interest. It's not easy to find, but one thing Indies excel at is creative solutions.

So, I'm glad you aren't waiting around for us to think of ways to work you into our plans. I know we'll continue to be active and we'll try to keep inspiring. Let us know when you guys think of things that work too. There's so much going on over where you are in the inland empire, and also up in Seattle. I'm looking forward to having two thriving outposts in those spots this year. 

Andy

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[Adam Copeland]

Well said sir, well said.

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