WEP Key
Stormlady
to wifi. I formatted the hard drive and lost all my info (I had it saved)
and now I can't remember at all how to go find it. How do I find my wep
key.
Aliant highspeed siemens gigaset se567 modem.
Thanks
Heather
Todd
Stormlady a ï¿œcrit :
Bay Boy
Go to that url
log in usually "admin"
passord left blank
follow the steps - you will come to your ewep key
it always stays the same - unles you change it.
"Todd" <bu...@ehby.wah> wrote in message
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> Log into your modem and look under wireless settings.
>
>
> Stormlady a �crit :
Snipe
you are looking for.
Here's a tip to make it easier to remember. Instead of using a hex key
that is almost impossible to remember, especially if it is strong, try
using a long passphrase. ie. MyCatIsNineYearsOldTODAY. Your router
will turn it into a hex key. You should also use something stronger
than WEP. Try WPA TKIP or WPA2.
snipe
Thomas Clancy
hotmail.com"> did etch in stone:
>Here's a tip to make it easier to remember. Instead of using a hex key
>that is almost impossible to remember, especially if it is strong, try
>using a long passphrase. ie. MyCatIsNineYearsOldTODAY. Your router
>will turn it into a hex key. You should also use something stronger
>than WEP. Try WPA TKIP or WPA2.
>
>snipe
That may be, but it will not work for all. Not all flavours of the
Windows OS/Drivers combo support passphrase for WEP key generation -
with Vista, it also has to be a specific length (which determines
whether it's 64 or 128 bit). Best to use WPA2/AES if at all possible.
Regards,
Thomas
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"Thomas Clancy" <psx...@hawtmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:54:52 -0330, Snipe <"compusnipe at
> hotmail.com"> did etch in stone:
>
>
>>Here's a tip to make it easier to remember. Instead of using a hex key
>>that is almost impossible to remember, especially if it is strong, try
>>using a long passphrase. ie. MyCatIsNineYearsOldTODAY. Your router
>>will turn it into a hex key. You should also use something stronger
>>than WEP. Try WPA TKIP or WPA2.
>>
>>snipe
>
> That may be, but it will not work for all. Not all flavours of the
> Windows OS/Drivers combo support passphrase for WEP key generation -
> with Vista, it also has to be a specific length (which determines
> whether it's 64 or 128 bit). Best to use WPA2/AES if at all possible.
>
Yes, that's right. WPA is a much better wireless connection.
It also gives you the option of creating your own passphrase [password]
into something you can easliy remember.
Call Aliant tech support and ask them to help set up a WPA for you.
>
>
Snipe
> On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:54:52 -0330, Snipe <"compusnipe at
> hotmail.com"> did etch in stone:
>
>
>> Here's a tip to make it easier to remember. Instead of using a hex key
>> that is almost impossible to remember, especially if it is strong, try
>> using a long passphrase. ie. MyCatIsNineYearsOldTODAY. Your router
>> will turn it into a hex key. You should also use something stronger
>> than WEP. Try WPA TKIP or WPA2.
>>
>> snipe
>
> That may be, but it will not work for all.
I've not had a router that couldn't use a passphrase. The modem/router
that the OP has is quite capable of using a passphrase. I have an
Iphone/Ipod touch, three laptops, two gaming consoles and a DLNA enabled
TV all using the same phrase without an issue.
> Not all flavours of the
> Windows OS/Drivers combo support passphrase for WEP key generation -
> with Vista, it also has to be a specific length (which determines
> whether it's 64 or 128 bit).
I never suggested that the OP use WEP 64 or 128. They are simply not
safe. I'm using WPA2 on Vista on three laptops and a desktop with
passphrase and no issues. I've not had any issues with XP or Win 7
either. You can use whatever encryption you like in Vista. If you use
wpa it is at least 128 bit.
Best to use WPA2/AES if at all possible.
Yes if you are using newer equipment and not hooking up a gaming
console. The PS3 will not work with WPA2/AES. However it will work with
WPA/WPA2/TKIP which is why I suggested it. It is not likely that anyone
is gong to crack a WPA2 TKIP encryption. Yes it's possible but the
average joe is not going to spend the time hacking into your network
just to snoop.
snipe
Thomas Clancy
hotmail.com"> did etch in stone:
>Thomas Clancy wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:54:52 -0330, Snipe <"compusnipe at
>> hotmail.com"> did etch in stone:
>>
>>
>>> Here's a tip to make it easier to remember. Instead of using a hex key
>>> that is almost impossible to remember, especially if it is strong, try
>>> using a long passphrase. ie. MyCatIsNineYearsOldTODAY. Your router
>>> will turn it into a hex key. You should also use something stronger
>>> than WEP. Try WPA TKIP or WPA2.
>>>
>>> snipe
>>
>> That may be, but it will not work for all.
>I've not had a router that couldn't use a passphrase. The modem/router
>that the OP has is quite capable of using a passphrase. I have an
>Iphone/Ipod touch, three laptops, two gaming consoles and a DLNA enabled
>TV all using the same phrase without an issue.
Take a deep breathe and reread below. You will see that I was
referring to the Operating system, not the router. :o)
>
>> Not all flavours of the
>> Windows OS/Drivers combo support passphrase for WEP key generation -
>> with Vista, it also has to be a specific length (which determines
>> whether it's 64 or 128 bit).
>
>I never suggested that the OP use WEP 64 or 128. They are simply not
Noone said you did. Gotta cut back on the coffee. The war is over,
soldier :o)
>safe. I'm using WPA2 on Vista on three laptops and a desktop with
>passphrase and no issues. I've not had any issues with XP or Win 7
>either. You can use whatever encryption you like in Vista. If you use
>wpa it is at least 128 bit.
>
>Best to use WPA2/AES if at all possible.
>
>Yes if you are using newer equipment and not hooking up a gaming
>console. The PS3 will not work with WPA2/AES. However it will work with
>WPA/WPA2/TKIP which is why I suggested it. It is not likely that anyone
>is gong to crack a WPA2 TKIP encryption. Yes it's possible but the
>average joe is not going to spend the time hacking into your network
>just to snoop.
Hence the qualifier "if at all possible." You've been sparring with
the Newsgroup trolls too long. Perhaps a day at the spa? :o)
Cheers!
Snipe
>>>> snipe
>>> That may be, but it will not work for all.
>
>> I've not had a router that couldn't use a passphrase. The modem/router
>> that the OP has is quite capable of using a passphrase. I have an
>> Iphone/Ipod touch, three laptops, two gaming consoles and a DLNA enabled
>> TV all using the same phrase without an issue.
>
> Take a deep breathe and reread below. You will see that I was
> referring to the Operating system, not the router. :o)
I can read sport. Regardless of whether you were referring to an OS or
the router it is not correct. What I suggested originally is correct
and works for all OS's. Your post was meant to refute what I was
suggesting. Inhale...exhale...inhale... lol
>
>>> Not all flavours of the
>>> Windows OS/Drivers combo support passphrase for WEP key generation -
>>> with Vista, it also has to be a specific length (which determines
>>> whether it's 64 or 128 bit).
>> I never suggested that the OP use WEP 64 or 128. They are simply not
>
> Noone said you did. Gotta cut back on the coffee. The war is over,
> soldier :o)
Noone is waring, I'm simply trying to clear up the confusion that you
added to the post. Well you did say that the length of the key will
determine 64 or 128. (Not true if you use anything other than WEP) Only
WEP comes in a 64 bit flavor, plus I had stated that WPA/WPA2 was the
the preferred home network encryption because the WPA2/AES does not work
for all game consoles.
>> Yes if you are using newer equipment and not hooking up a gaming
>> console. The PS3 will not work with WPA2/AES. However it will work with
>> WPA/WPA2/TKIP which is why I suggested it. It is not likely that anyone
>> is gong to crack a WPA2 TKIP encryption. Yes it's possible but the
>> average joe is not going to spend the time hacking into your network
>> just to snoop.
>
> Hence the qualifier "if at all possible."
Really wasn't necessary. Your entire post wasn't necessary really as it
added little other than confusion.
> You've been sparring with
> the Newsgroup trolls too long. Perhaps a day at the spa? :o)
Man I was only replying to your post...I wouldn't call that sparring.
Don't be so defensive bye...You want to join me at the spa... ;-)
snipe
Thomas Clancy
hotmail.com"> did etch in stone:
>Thomas Clancy wrote:
>>>>> snipe
>>>> That may be, but it will not work for all.
>>
>>> I've not had a router that couldn't use a passphrase. The modem/router
>>> that the OP has is quite capable of using a passphrase. I have an
>>> Iphone/Ipod touch, three laptops, two gaming consoles and a DLNA enabled
>>> TV all using the same phrase without an issue.
>>
>> Take a deep breathe and reread below. You will see that I was
>> referring to the Operating system, not the router. :o)
>
>I can read sport. Regardless of whether you were referring to an OS or
>the router it is not correct. What I suggested originally is correct
>and works for all OS's. Your post was meant to refute what I was
>suggesting. Inhale...exhale...inhale... lol
It is most assuredly correct. Not all Windows OS/Driver combo will
allow you to enter a WEP passphrase instead of a key (into the OS).
That my friend is a cold hard fact. I'll send you screen snapshots if
you'd like :o)
>>
>>>> Not all flavours of the
>>>> Windows OS/Drivers combo support passphrase for WEP key generation -
>>>> with Vista, it also has to be a specific length (which determines
>>>> whether it's 64 or 128 bit).
>>> I never suggested that the OP use WEP 64 or 128. They are simply not
>>
>> Noone said you did. Gotta cut back on the coffee. The war is over,
>> soldier :o)
>
>Noone is waring, I'm simply trying to clear up the confusion that you
>added to the post. Well you did say that the length of the key will
>determine 64 or 128. (Not true if you use anything other than WEP) Only
>WEP comes in a 64 bit flavor, plus I had stated that WPA/WPA2 was the
>the preferred home network encryption because the WPA2/AES does not work
>for all game consoles.
Snipe, my friend, you are not reading in context. I clearly stated
that. Note the above that begins "WEP key generation - with Vista)."
How much clearer can you make it? There was nothing to clear up. :o)
As for the "preferred home network encryption" that is entirely
subjective. You're telling me the "preferred" method is to
officially not use the best possible protection? That's like saying
the preferred method for Birth Control is the rhythm method (when
condoms and the like are readily available). :o)
Of course, you're also assuming that all home networks have a gaming
console on them. I use WPA2/AES on my network, and have my console
hooked VIA CAT-5e. Not much point in having security if you're not
going to use it, simply because it's not convenient. Security is
about protection, not convenience. :o)
>>> Yes if you are using newer equipment and not hooking up a gaming
>>> console. The PS3 will not work with WPA2/AES. However it will work with
>>> WPA/WPA2/TKIP which is why I suggested it. It is not likely that anyone
>>> is gong to crack a WPA2 TKIP encryption. Yes it's possible but the
>>> average joe is not going to spend the time hacking into your network
>>> just to snoop.
The average Joe isn't going to steal your debit card either (but they
would be certainly be more likely to "share" your unprotected
network), so using your average Joe analogy, why bother protecting
yourself with a PIN?
>>
>> Hence the qualifier "if at all possible."
>
>Really wasn't necessary. Your entire post wasn't necessary really as it
> added little other than confusion.
Really? Doubtful. What is did do is clarified your "blanket"
statement/generalization. What wasn't necessary was your attempt at a
rebuttal.
>> You've been sparring with
>> the Newsgroup trolls too long. Perhaps a day at the spa? :o)
>
>Man I was only replying to your post...I wouldn't call that sparring.
>Don't be so defensive bye...You want to join me at the spa... ;-)
Which one? You buying? :o)>
Snipe
> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:49:22 -0330, Snipe <"compusnipe at
> hotmail.com"> did etch in stone:
>
>
> allow you to enter a WEP passphrase instead of a key (into the OS).
> That my friend is a cold hard fact. I'll send you screen snapshots if
> you'd like :o)
There may be some obscure combination of OS/driver combination but I've
yet to see one.
> Snipe, my friend, you are not reading in context. I clearly stated
> that. Note the above that begins "WEP key generation - with Vista)."
> How much clearer can you make it? There was nothing to clear up. :o)
I'm reading what's there. I have never heard of the key having to be a
certain length or it having anything to do with whether or not it is 64
or 128. That is user defined. And since we were speaking about
WPA/WPA2 there is no 64 bit encryption.
> As for the "preferred home network encryption" that is entirely
> subjective. You're telling me the "preferred" method is to
> officially not use the best possible protection?
No what I'm suggesting is that using a WPA2 enterprise or the like is
overkill for the average home network and will not work with all
appliances. On the other hand WPA/WPA2 is very safe for a home network
> That's like saying
> the preferred method for Birth Control is the rhythm method (when
> condoms and the like are readily available). :o)
Not at all...However, your suggestion of WPA2/AES is the equivalent of
abstinence only...when we have all these other quite effective methods...lol
> Of course, you're also assuming that all home networks have a gaming
> console on them. I use WPA2/AES on my network, and have my console
> hooked VIA CAT-5e.
Obviously hardwire is the preferred method...but we were specifically
speaking about wireless. Cat-5/6 wasn't a wasn't much talked about when
my house was built 35 yrs ago...;-) That's why they invented wireless.
> Not much point in having security if you're not
> going to use it, simply because it's not convenient. Security is
> about protection, not convenience. :o)
I have way more security than I will need using WPA2 and a 40key
passphrase.
>>>> Yes if you are using newer equipment and not hooking up a gaming
>>>> console. The PS3 will not work with WPA2/AES. However it will work with
>>>> WPA/WPA2/TKIP which is why I suggested it. It is not likely that anyone
>>>> is gong to crack a WPA2 TKIP encryption. Yes it's possible but the
>>>> average joe is not going to spend the time hacking into your network
>>>> just to snoop.
>
> The average Joe isn't going to steal your debit card either (but they
> would be certainly be more likely to "share" your unprotected
> network),
My network is FAR from being unprotected. It's thousands of times more
secure than a 4 digit pin number. If someone is wiling to spend months
and months straight trying to crack my current encryption go for
it...It's not going to happen.
> so using your average Joe analogy, why bother protecting
> yourself with a PIN?
That's a poor analogy. they are at both ends of the extreme.
>
> Really? Doubtful. What is did do is clarified your "blanket"
> statement/generalization.
They were not blanket generalizations. Just because you have some
obscure combination of driver/os that doesn't allow a passphrase doesn't
mean that it is the norm. In fact it is an anomaly. I have several
combinations of OS's running her and three different consoles and the
like and have yet to experience your anomaly.
> Which one? You buying? :o)>
Naaaw, on second thought, it does look a bit gay...lol I'll pass.
For the OP. Try using WPA2 with a long passphrase as it's easier to
remember. But there is a slim chance that it might not work due to some
obscure OS/driver conflict. Don't worry about security, if you see a
van parked outside your house for three months straight you might want
to change your phrase. How's that? ;-)
snipe
Thomas Clancy
hotmail.com"> did etch in stone:
>Thomas Clancy wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:49:22 -0330, Snipe <"compusnipe at
>> hotmail.com"> did etch in stone:
>>
>>
>> It is most assuredly correct. Not all Windows OS/Driver combo will
>> allow you to enter a WEP passphrase instead of a key (into the OS).
>> That my friend is a cold hard fact. I'll send you screen snapshots if
>> you'd like :o)
>
>There may be some obscure combination of OS/driver combination but I've
>yet to see one.
It's not obscure at all. Check out the differences in XP without SP,
all the way up to SP3. Don't take my word - or Microsoft's word -
clearly they don't have a clue <rolls eyes and grins>
>> Snipe, my friend, you are not reading in context. I clearly stated
>> that. Note the above that begins "WEP key generation - with Vista)."
>> How much clearer can you make it? There was nothing to clear up. :o)
>
>I'm reading what's there. I have never heard of the key having to be a
>certain length or it having anything to do with whether or not it is 64
>or 128. That is user defined. And since we were speaking about
>WPA/WPA2 there is no 64 bit encryption.
Have you heard of my uncle Mike? Mike Marcotte? Surely you have? No?
Well, just because you haven't heard from him doesn't mean that he do
not exist. There are things out there in the world, and quite common
at that, that you're not familiar with, I'm quite certain :o)
When using a passphrase to generate a WEP key, VISTA requires that it
be either 5 (for 64 bit) or 13 (for 128bit) characters. For the love
of gawd man, check it out.
>> As for the "preferred home network encryption" that is entirely
>> subjective. You're telling me the "preferred" method is to
>> officially not use the best possible protection?
>
>No what I'm suggesting is that using a WPA2 enterprise or the like is
>overkill for the average home network and will not work with all
>appliances. On the other hand WPA/WPA2 is very safe for a home network
Who's talking about WPA2 Enterprise? I mentioned WPA2/AES. To use
enterprise one would be utilizing 802.1x authentication by means of a
RADIUS server. I've never met anyone that had a Radius server setup
in their home. A campus, yes. :o)
>
>> That's like saying
>> the preferred method for Birth Control is the rhythm method (when
>> condoms and the like are readily available). :o)
>
>Not at all...However, your suggestion of WPA2/AES is the equivalent of
>abstinence only...when we have all these other quite effective methods...lol
Nah, not at all. It uses condoms; the pill; sponge; ring; phases of
the moon etc. In my analogy, my network is protected (i.e. condom)
and working (i.e. having sex while using a condom) Mauwhahah :o)
>> Of course, you're also assuming that all home networks have a gaming
>> console on them. I use WPA2/AES on my network, and have my console
>> hooked VIA CAT-5e.
>
>Obviously hardwire is the preferred method...but we were specifically
>speaking about wireless. Cat-5/6 wasn't a wasn't much talked about when
>my house was built 35 yrs ago...;-) That's why they invented wireless.
Hey. mine is 70+ and all rooms (except Kitchen/Washroom and Laundry)
are wired (some with redundant cables). I know, I'm a nerd.
>> Not much point in having security if you're not
>> going to use it, simply because it's not convenient. Security is
>> about protection, not convenience. :o)
>
>I have way more security than I will need using WPA2 and a 40key
>passphrase.
>
>>>>> Yes if you are using newer equipment and not hooking up a gaming
>>>>> console. The PS3 will not work with WPA2/AES. However it will work with
>>>>> WPA/WPA2/TKIP which is why I suggested it. It is not likely that anyone
>>>>> is gong to crack a WPA2 TKIP encryption. Yes it's possible but the
>>>>> average joe is not going to spend the time hacking into your network
>>>>> just to snoop.
>>
>> The average Joe isn't going to steal your debit card either (but they
>> would be certainly be more likely to "share" your unprotected
>> network),
>
>My network is FAR from being unprotected. It's thousands of times more
>secure than a 4 digit pin number. If someone is wiling to spend months
>and months straight trying to crack my current encryption go for
>it...It's not going to happen.
Again that's like saying you are "protected" because you use the
rhythm method when the condom is right in front of you. Both offer
some protection, however one of them offers maximum protection (given
the circumstances). Buddy, it's your child support payment, not mine
:o)
>
> > so using your average Joe analogy, why bother protecting
>> yourself with a PIN?
>
>That's a poor analogy. they are at both ends of the extreme.
>
>>
>> Really? Doubtful. What is did do is clarified your "blanket"
>> statement/generalization.
>For the OP. Try using WPA2 with a long passphrase as it's easier to
>remember. But there is a slim chance that it might not work due to some
>obscure OS/driver conflict. Don't worry about security, if you see a
>van parked outside your house for three months straight you might want
>to change your phrase. How's that? ;-)
Only on alternate Wednesday's, when the wind is out of the West and
the Barometric pressure is at 29.5 Kilopascals!
Hhehehehe.
Snipe
>> There may be some obscure combination of OS/driver combination but I've
>> yet to see one.
>
> It's not obscure at all.
Sure it is...
> Check out the differences in XP without SP,
> all the way up to SP3.
Why bother?
> Don't take my word - or Microsoft's word -
> clearly they don't have a clue <rolls eyes and grins>
When it comes to M$. Lets just say that I'm glad they don't make cars.
> Have you heard of my uncle Mike? Mike Marcotte? Surely you have? No?
> Well, just because you haven't heard from him doesn't mean that he do
> not exist.
Just because you had an issue with your passphrase one time in XP before
you installed the service Packs doesn't mean that this problem is the
norm...quite the opposite.
> There are things out there in the world, and quite common
> at that, that you're not familiar with, I'm quite certain :o)
You sure about that? I knew your uncle Mike! ha ha I also happen to
know quite a bit about networking.
> When using a passphrase to generate a WEP key, VISTA requires that it
> be either 5 (for 64 bit) or 13 (for 128bit) characters. For the love
> of gawd man, check it out.
I don't have to check it out, I know for certain that there is no such
thing as a 64 bit key for WPA/WPA2. The only 64 bit encryption that
existed was the old WEP key. Noone should be using WEP 64 or 128 for
any reason as it can be cracked in under 60 seconds.
>
>>> As for the "preferred home network encryption" that is entirely
>>> subjective. You're telling me the "preferred" method is to
>>> officially not use the best possible protection?
>> No what I'm suggesting is that using a WPA2 enterprise or the like is
>> overkill for the average home network and will not work with all
>> appliances. On the other hand WPA/WPA2 is very safe for a home network
>
> Who's talking about WPA2 Enterprise?
Who's talking about WEP?
> I mentioned WPA2/AES. To use
> enterprise one would be utilizing 802.1x authentication by means of a
> RADIUS server. I've never met anyone that had a Radius server setup
> in their home.
Aha, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist now does it...Ask uncle
Mike... lol It is however, the most secure encryption available.
>> Not at all...However, your suggestion of WPA2/AES is the equivalent of
>> abstinence only...when we have all these other quite effective methods...lol
>
> Nah, not at all. It uses condoms; the pill; sponge; ring; phases of
> the moon etc.
Unfortunately some of its partners are not compatible with all those
methods...especially gaming consoles who hates condoms.
>In my analogy, my network is protected (i.e. condom)
> and working (i.e. having sex while using a condom) Mauwhahah :o)
No, your network is using condoms; the pill; sponge; ring; phases of
the moon etc. when all that is necessary is the condom...oh and someone
to hook up with on the network...lol
>>> Of course, you're also assuming that all home networks have a gaming
>>> console on them. I use WPA2/AES on my network, and have my console
>>> hooked VIA CAT-5e.
>> Obviously hardwire is the preferred method...but we were specifically
>> speaking about wireless. Cat-5/6 wasn't a wasn't much talked about when
>> my house was built 35 yrs ago...;-) That's why they invented wireless.
>
> Hey. mine is 70+ and all rooms (except Kitchen/Washroom and Laundry)
> are wired (some with redundant cables). I know, I'm a nerd.
You don't have your kitchen wired? lol ...How ever is your digital
refrigerator going to cook that favorite recipe. I like the wireless.
I use SONOS throughout the house and if I need to hook to the net I can
do it through one of those zone players if wireless is not readily
available. I'll confess, I'm a bit of a nerd too...Who's have thought?...
> Again that's like saying you are "protected" because you use the
> rhythm method when the condom is right in front of you. Both offer
> some protection, however one of them offers maximum protection (given
> the circumstances).
Yes but you are so paranoid that you have the equivalent of 6 condoms on
at once when one is more than sufficient...Don't worry, hackers are not
beating down your doors to have sex with you...Don't be so rigid bye and
relax and enjoy...lol Ok enough of these analogies...Oh, and the baby
is not mine...lol
snipe
Stormlady
"Snipe" <"compusnipe at hotmail.com"> wrote in message
news:4b7b446a$0$12417$,>
> For the OP. Try using WPA2 with a long passphrase as it's easier to
> remember. But there is a slim chance that it might not work due to some
> obscure OS/driver conflict. Don't worry about security, if you see a van
> parked outside your house for three months straight you might want to
> change your phrase. How's that? ;-)
>
> snipe
>
There's a car across the street that hasn't moved in at least a year and a
half ;-)