Chicago's New Gun Law
Bob
I've read a number of articles regarding Chicago's new gun law, and I'm still
not entirely clear as to what the ordinance permits and prohibits. Does anyone
have a link to the actual ordinance?
From what I gather the law prevents gun shops from operating within city limits,
prohibits the sale of certain types of firearms & accessories, restricts the
number of firearms in a living space, and prevents folks from stepping outside
their home with a handgun (garage, back porch, etc.)
All of this seems to contradict a recent firearms ruling by the U.S. Supreme
Court, so it will be interesting to see if the ordinance is allowed to stand.
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Joe
went right back out and put in the same stupid law, just like DC did. They have
already been sued. They don't care. They will hire the most expensive political
lawyers the tax payers can support. They will get spanked again and they will
pay legal costs just like DC did. Their law also banned training to get the
permit that requires training. Idiots.
Rich.
"Bob" <b...@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:i1fmf...@drn.newsguy.com...
I find it humorous that a body of text which prohibits guns is called an
ordinance. :-)
Here's the full text:
http://mayor.cityofchicago.org/etc/medialib/mayor/press_room1/press_releases/press_release_pdfs/2010.Par.86343.File.dat/Responsible%20Gun%20Ownership-Ordinance7-1-10.pdf
I got it off this page:
http://mayor.cityofchicago.org/mayor/en/press_room/press_releases/2010/july_2010/0702_supreme_court.html
Joe
Here are some versions that weren't written by the Chicago Mayor's office
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-chicago-gun-lawsuit-0708-20100707,0,2041882.story
http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/InTheNews.aspx?ID=14006
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/nra-backs-lawsuit-against-chicago-s-new-gun-control-laws
Joe
Here are some versions that weren't written by the Chicago Mayor's office
Bob
Exactly, when I hear the word "ordinance" I think of guidelines that require dog
owners to carry pooper scoopers, not regulations that impede folks from
exercising their 2nd Amendment rights lol.
I appreciate you posting the links, and I found the opening "WHEREAS" section
interesting...
"Recent study by the Centers for Disease Control & Prevention found that in the
United States there were 30,896 deaths from firearms in 2006, making firearms
one of the top ten causes of death in the country"
"Annually more than 100,000 people in our nation are shot or killed with a
firearm, with more than 3,000 of these victims being children or teenagers"
"In 2009, in Chicago there were 1,815 aggravated batteries with a firearm, of
which 83 were shootings inside a residence, and there were 379 murders with a
firearm, of which 34 were murders involving a firearm inside a home."
Automobiles, drugs and alcohol kill far more people in this country, but Chicago
isn't passing an ordinance to limit the number of hours that people can drive
their cars each week, or restrict the sale of prescription drugs or alcohol
within their city.
When they note that 100,000 people were shot or killed in the U.S. that number
includes criminals that were shot by other criminals (gang violence), criminals
that were shot by law enforcement, and suicides.
The document also made mention of 379 murders in Chicago in 2009, but fails to
note that over 53% of the homicides in Chicago are gang related.
I suppose the point I'm trying to make is that more gun control restrictions
will typically take firearms out of the hands of law abiding citizens, and will
do nothing to curb criminals that have no regard for the law.
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Bob
Very cool, and thanks for posting the additional links! When you read the city's
document and their justification for the ordinance, it's laughable. Of
particular note, they fail to explain that their "shooting" and "killing" stats
include criminals that were shot by other criminals, criminals that were shot by
law enforcement, etc.
It's just more convenient for them to massage the numbers and leave folks with
the impression that law abiding citizens are running around Chicago randomly
shooting their law abiding neighbors.
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Rich.
"Bob" <b...@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:i1gsq...@drn.newsguy.com...
>
> The document also made mention of 379 murders in Chicago in 2009, but
> fails to
> note that over 53% of the homicides in Chicago are gang related.
>
> I suppose the point I'm trying to make is that more gun control
> restrictions
> will typically take firearms out of the hands of law abiding citizens, and
> will
> do nothing to curb criminals that have no regard for the law.
>
It sounds like this new law was designed to target specific minorities and
uses racial profiling. How long until Obama's administration sues Chicago
over it?
Kenbo
They are worried about law abiding citizens
running around shooting non-law-abiding politicians.
JRogow
We live in an area where pretty much everyone is armed, most of us are
sports shooters, many have CCWs. The crime rate is almost
non-existent,gangs are not a problem, and the last murder - at least
four years ago - was with a knife.
A few hours drive south to LA, where CCWs are not issued, the gangs and
drug dealers have pretty much taken over.
There's a lesson to be learned.
Bob
It's an interesting point, and you can almost look at it two ways...
- A high percentage of murders in Chicago are committed by gang members, and
most of the gangs are comprised of African & Latin Americans. Should folks be
concerned that racial profiling will take place to enforce the new law?
- It's no surprise that criminals do not follow the law, so the city of Chicago
may be guilty of profiling and restricting a specific population of folks that
they know will abide by the new law.
AZ passes a State law that is consistent with existing Federal law, and there's
a media uproar. Chicago passes a local law that intentionally contradicts a U.S.
Supreme Court ruling, and the media is ambivalent lol.
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Bob
That may not be far removed from the truth, and I could see a paintball version
of that scenario becoming a popular concept for a game show lol.
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Bob
Great information Judith, and I think the situation you've described is
consistent with most CCW areas around the country.
Crime and criminals have a tendency of taking the path of less resistance, so if
given the choice they'll populate areas where there's a small risk of
encountering a firearm when they're burglarizing a house, robbing a convenience
store, car jacking, etc.
When you look at other developed countries that have enacted stiff gun control
laws, crimes rates either stay the same or increase in most cases. Just my
opinion, but I think all that arrangement succeeds in doing is disarming law
abiding folks and making life easier for the criminal element.
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Joe
bodyguards as holsters. They just don't want the average citizen to be
protected.
I was out shooting today at the back range. Ordered some tooling to build a
custom rifle and fabricate a new cartridge. Probably spent an hour on the phone
with some very talented engineering types working through designs and talking
about new developments in firearms. They are all family types, polite,
articulate, interesting. Then I think of the assertions of Chicago's City
government and I think, garbage. Disgusting people who live the type of life
that makes them fearful of others. They steal from taxpayers, they
misappropriate funds, they lie and cheat and make themselves wealthy praying on
people who are trying to make a living. Making matters worse, they intrude into
legitimate people's homes, families, values, religion, interests. They are
bullies, drunk with power from getting away with abusing the power of their
positions. There is only one way to deal with a bully. It's coming.
Joe
criminals who engage in crime against white people, his biggest supporters in
Chicago, the new black panthers will be allowed to carry without interference.
When was the last time a president had an open affiliation with street criminals
and publicly dismissed their criminal prosecution? He is a black Ted Kennedy - a
criminal in his own right, but his supporters turn the other way as long as he
champions their causes.
JRogow
> On 13 Jul 2010 08:07:09 -0700, JRogow wrote...
>>>>>
>>>>> I got it off this page:
>>>>> http://mayor.cityofchicago.org/mayor/en/press_room/press_releases/2010/july_2010/0702_supreme_court.html
>>>>>
>>>> Here are some versions that weren't written by the Chicago Mayor's office
>>>>
>>>> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-chicago-gun-lawsuit-0708-20100707,0,2041882.story
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/InTheNews.aspx?ID=14006
>>>>
>>>> http://www.opposingviews.com/i/nra-backs-lawsuit-against-chicago-s-new-gun-control-laws
>>> Very cool, and thanks for posting the additional links! When you read the city's
>>> document and their justification for the ordinance, it's laughable. Of
>>> particular note, they fail to explain that their "shooting" and "killing" stats
>>> include criminals that were shot by other criminals, criminals that were shot by
>>> law enforcement, etc.
>>>
>>> It's just more convenient for them to massage the numbers and leave folks with
>>> the impression that law abiding citizens are running around Chicago randomly
>>> shooting their law abiding neighbors.
>> We live in an area where pretty much everyone is armed, most of us are
>> sports shooters, many have CCWs. The crime rate is almost
>> non-existent,gangs are not a problem, and the last murder - at least
>> four years ago - was with a knife.
>>
>> A few hours drive south to LA, where CCWs are not issued, the gangs and
>> drug dealers have pretty much taken over.
>>
>> There's a lesson to be learned.
>>
>
> obtain firearms legally. So the assumption that more regulations on the
> non-criminal public would stop gang violence is a joke. It my city had crime
> stats like that I'd be concerned when the politicians were working on new laws
> when they anticipated the court's decision.
>
> Rich
>
There aren't many ways to obtain illegal weapons in this area.
Even doped up gang members are usually too smart to try and steal from a
well armed citizenry.
Bob Berger
It's targeting the smallest minority in Chicago, law-abiding citizens.
>How long until Obama's administration sues Chicago over it?
Never, too many in that minority are white.
Bob
Yep! There have been a few examples where a politician has spewed anti-gun
rhetoric in public, only to discover that they personally carry a handgun for
protection, or employ several well armed bodyguards as you mentioned.
My experience in Central Texas has been very similar to what you've described
above. A good portion of our neighborhood has one or more firearms in their
household that they use for defense and sport (target shooting, hunting, etc.)
They're smart, responsible, hard working folks that have normal lives and normal
families... so I can't recall the last time I saw any of them running around in
camouflage and grease paint or shooting up the neighborhood lol.
I think a lot of people do feel they're being bullied into a corner, and in my
experience if that type of badgering persists a bully will end up with a bloody
nose or worse.
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Joe
Hispanic, whatever that is, could barely speak English. The guy was screaming at
a woman who was making calm and legitimate criticisms of health care. Totally
out of control - who the hell did he think he was. Everyone started booing and
yelling back at him and he continued to act out against his own constituents who
were attending a meeting this meatball called. Thanks to our royal government a
guy with the skill sets to drive a low rider and work at Taco Bell is now
crapping on all of us. Like I said, it's coming.
Bob
Ah yes, those Black Panthers are quite the eloquent and level-headed bunch...
Minister King Samir Shabazz (Maurice Heath) - "You want freedom? You're gonna
have to kill some crackers! You're gonna have to kill some of their babies! I
hate white people – all of them! Every last iota of a cracker, I hate 'em. I'm
about the total destruction of white people. I'm about the total liberation of
black people. I hate white people."
Shabazz is one of the guys that Obama & the DOJ refused to prosecute after he
was arrested at a polling location on Election Day 2008 wearing paramilitary
clothing, brandishing a nightstick and spewing hate speech in an effort to
intimidate voters.
While Shabazz clearly is a sandwich short of a picnic, what excuse does Obama
have for his actions (dismissing the voter intimidation cases)? A federal judge
ordered default judgments against the Black Panthers after members refused to
appear in court. The DOJ trial team had won its case, yet they were quickly
ordered by Obama to drop all charges.
Would Obama have responded differently if it were a couple of white guys
standing in front of a polling location wielding nightsticks and yelling "I hate
black people! Kill some black people!".
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Bob
>
>On 13 Jul 2010 08:07:09 -0700, JRogow wrote...
>>
>obtain firearms legally. So the assumption that more regulations on the
>non-criminal public would stop gang violence is a joke. It my city had crime
>stats like that I'd be concerned when the politicians were working on new laws
>when they anticipated the court's decision.
>
>Rich
Some interesting stats from the Chicago Police Department's Homicide Report...
- 41% of domestic murders were stabbings
- 77% of the homicide offenders were African American, 5% were Caucasian.
- 88% of the homicide offenders had a prior arrest history
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Bob
LOL I believe you are referring to the honorable Ciro Rodriguez who hails from
Texas' 23rd congressional district. It's scary to think that this gentleman
represents the 8th largest district in the nation, when you consider his poor
grasp of the English language and his emotions...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jENE5Nh6qIs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu0do73cj80
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Bob
>
>On 14 Jul 2010 08:00:38 -0700, Joe wrote...
>into power and turn into bullies. Doesn't matter what they promised or tricks
>they pulled to get into office, they have a game plan and they could care less
>about the people that voted them into office.
>
>Rich
As much as I want to get upset at this congressman (Ciro Rodriguez / TX-23) what
were people thinking when they elected this buffoon to represent the 8th largest
congressional district in the country. Given the entire population of this
district, this is the best political representation they could find?
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Bob
>
>On 14 Jul 2010 08:35:37 -0700, Bob wrote...
>problem. If there's a crime as violent as a homicide, they should consider
>"3-strikes" that puts keeps them in prison for good.
>
>Rich
And I suppose that stat makes another point... if you have a large population of
folks that repeatedly break the law, they'll probably ignore the new gun law as
well lol.
At the end of the day it's not criminals that these politicians fear, it's a
population of armed, law-abiding citizens that are growing restless with corrupt
representatives and government.
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Joe
because of rumors they spread. When asked if they were also going to pass a
resolution against the New Black Panther Party, the head of the NAACP said there
was a second resolution against the NBPP, but for some reason it never came to a
vote. I think it was dumb of the people complaining about the Tea Party
Resolution to use the NBPP as a corollary as it creates the erroneous image of
similarity.
I got a kick out of Glen Beck last night when he showed the cropped video image
of what appears to be a white guy carrying an AR 15 at a Tea Party rally. Beck
then showed the uncropped version and it is very much a black man carrying the
gun. Nothing wrong with that, but it is interesting that the NAACP would use the
image of a black man as the image of political fanaticism.
Bob
Tea Party detractors invite and encourage the comparisons... New Black Panthers,
KKK, etc... knowing that the association will unfairly classify the group as
fanatics & bigots.
On Tuesday NAACP President Benjamin Todd Jealous made the following comment
about the Tea Party:
"The time has come for them to accept the responsibility that comes with
influence and make clear there is no place for racism and anti-Semitism,
homophobia and other forms of bigotry in their movement."
I may have missed the press release, but has the NAACP issued similar statements
regarding Louis Farrakhan and Jeremiah Wright?
Farrakhan has influence over a large number of people, and Wright was/is our
President's spiritual advisor, and both have made public statements that were
racist, anti-Semitic and homophobic.
I think an argument can be made that rather than fight racism, the NAACP exists
to incite and exploit it.
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Joe
huge slide toward socialism/communism which ignores the primary culprit in the
country's financial collapse - government operated Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac. The
three month old oil spew appears to be capped. So now today's headlines are
Obama is saving us all from evil banks and he solved the oil spew problem in the
gulf - ignoring the 2000 pages of power that transfers from elected officials to
bureaucrats and changes laws to policy.
The press ignores the damage that has been done to the environment. It ignores
the halt to off shore drilling. It ignores the overrunning illegal immigration
and the law suit against AZ. The press loves this clown president and our
corrupt Congress and they will be their PR agents until we are all done.
Bob
Despite public opinion being against him at every turn, Obama arrogantly pushes
forward with the belief that he knows what's best for the minions. When you look
around the only folks that are championing and supporting his efforts are the
media lol.
Bush made some mistakes in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina, and he was
skewered by the media, politicians, and celebrities as a result. Obama on the
other hand has allowed oil to leak into the Gulf for the past 3 months, yet he
hasn't drawn the same ire from these folks. Why aren't Rachel Maddow, Bill
Maher, Al Gore, The Dixie Chicks and Sean Penn ranting about the President's
inept handling of the spill?
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Rich.
"Bob" <b...@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:i1q2h...@drn.newsguy.com...
>
> Bush made some mistakes in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina, and he was
> skewered by the media, politicians, and celebrities as a result. Obama on
> the
> other hand has allowed oil to leak into the Gulf for the past 3 months,
> yet he
> hasn't drawn the same ire from these folks. Why aren't Rachel Maddow, Bill
> Maher, Al Gore, The Dixie Chicks and Sean Penn ranting about the
> President's
> inept handling of the spill?
>
Gee, haven't you figured out the liberal media yet? It's because BP not
Obama caused the oil spill, while in contrast Bush caused Katrina not Mother
Nature.
Starkiller™
According to Jimmy Buffet Bush also caused the oil spill.
It appears that a lot of Americans have simply lost their ever loving
minds.
Joe
time of national political crisis, it reminds me when our children we very young
and we use to have to break up name calling fights between siblings. It's
embarrassing to see as it shows what the nation has become. I think we have been
on a long downhill slide since George Bush senior took office and the names that
keep popping up as possible candidates in the future don't do much to make me
feel better. I'd like a president that is a roll model, someone to look up to.
Someone with vision and just a bit of class and charisma.
--
Hey Obama... rama. It's Surfin' USA, not Serfin' USA
David C Kifer
The current Governors of New Jersey, Louisiana, Virginia, maybe Arizona,
look any better than the more-often-mentioned "usual suspects"?
--
Dave
"Tam multi libri, tam breve tempus!"
(Et brevis pecunia.) [Et breve spatium.]
Joe
Even California is making some contribution with folks like Darrell Issa. Maybe
it's the press pushing their favorite dead horses like Mitt Romney. I am worried
about a self serving Sarah Palin. I think she is a great cheer leader, but I
don't think she has the capacity to do the job that needs to be done or assembly
an administration. Worse, I think her daughter has the potential to aspire to
the level of embarrassment of Billy Carter and I think the press knows how to
play that daughter mother relationship to both their detriments. I think
liberals would like nothing better than to see Palin or Romney out in front of
the Republicans.
Starkiller™
>On 17 Jul 2010 10:35:31 -0700, Joe wrote...
>With these past few elections it seems like the candidates are picked by the
>party instead of the people. When they start digging up "super delegates" to
>change the outcome of the election process, I get the feeling our votes aren't
>going to matter much anymore.
>
>There's slim pickings from both political parties too. There are too many
>senators that think they have lifetime employment, and just as many think their
>time in office puts them in line to become a presidential candidate. I say we
>fire them all and start from scratch. Adding term limits where they don't exist
>would be a change in the right direction too. I hear a lot of the same names in
>Washington and as usual they're not doing anything that doesn't benefit
>themselves.
>
>Rich
Indeed. The 22nd Amendment came about because folks saw the danger in
a perpetual president. Yet congress, the ones that actually run the
country and make the laws, have no such restriction and they have
greater ability to do damage by being in the same position as a lot of
dictators.
The argument that a national senator or representative needs more than
2 or 3 terms in office in order to get used to the processes and such
os a flawed one. By the time they reach the national level of
politics they are more than familiar with what they should be in order
to hold the office. We barely give any president a few months in
office at best before holding them completely responsible for the
governing talents so why should a lousy congressman use the excuse
that they need years to really get good at all of the ins and outs?
Bob Berger
>
>In article <reh346hcibkn8vr9t...@4ax.com>, Starkiller says...
>>
>>On 16 Jul 2010 18:17:59 -0700, rc...@XXcomcast.net (Rich.) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Bob" <b...@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:i1q2h...@drn.newsguy.com...
>>>>
>>>> Bush made some mistakes in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina, and he was
>>>> skewered by the media, politicians, and celebrities as a result. Obama on
>>>> the
>>>> other hand has allowed oil to leak into the Gulf for the past 3 months,
>>>> yet he
>>>> hasn't drawn the same ire from these folks. Why aren't Rachel Maddow, Bill
>>>> Maher, Al Gore, The Dixie Chicks and Sean Penn ranting about the
>>>> President's
>>>> inept handling of the spill?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Gee, haven't you figured out the liberal media yet? It's because BP not
>>>Obama caused the oil spill, while in contrast Bush caused Katrina not Mother
>>>Nature.
>>
>>According to Jimmy Buffet Bush also caused the oil spill.
>>
>>It appears that a lot of Americans have simply lost their ever loving
>>minds.
>>
>Anymore, when I turn on the news and see what represents both parties in this
>time of national political crisis, it reminds me when our children we very young
>and we use to have to break up name calling fights between siblings. It's
>embarrassing to see as it shows what the nation has become. I think we have been
>on a long downhill slide since George Bush senior took office
Maybe a bit farther back than that; say to the senior Adams.
Joe
>
>On 17 Jul 2010 10:35:31 -0700, Joe wrote...
>>
>party instead of the people. When they start digging up "super delegates" to
>change the outcome of the election process, I get the feeling our votes aren't
>going to matter much anymore.
>
>There's slim pickings from both political parties too. There are too many
>senators that think they have lifetime employment, and just as many think their
>time in office puts them in line to become a presidential candidate. I say we
>fire them all and start from scratch. Adding term limits where they don't exist
>would be a change in the right direction too. I hear a lot of the same names in
>Washington and as usual they're not doing anything that doesn't benefit
>themselves.
>
>Rich
>
Joe
with a reserved leaning. She didn't make everyone happy, but she was honest and
had good reason for her votes. She communicated with constituents and her office
helped residents resolve federal related issues. She swore to run for two terms
and then get out.
She of course decided she needed to run for one more term, the same people -
including me voted for her, and she turned into a straight Democrat voter Obama
supporter.
David C Kifer
That was Maine's mistake, Joe, voting for her third term. If she broke
her promise to leave after two terms, she was going to break other
promises. Just be sure to vote her out in 2014. No matter what she
promises, or claims she's learned. Did Olympia Snowe also make a
two-term promise and break it? No matter if she did or not, the only
"term limit" we have right now is the ballot; vote her out in 2012. Please?
:-)>
Joe
the population receives some government assistance and these organizations can
really turn them out. As an example, Collins based on her earlier record won
with a 61% majority. If these officials keep government jobs, particularly
roadwork and fire departments, and keep the union boat yard open they are aces.
The state is going broke, but voters approved every bond issue for public works
and charitable program. I have been a lot more involved this time. We have
candidates to back and continually promote and support for the office of
Governor, Paul LePage and in state assembly. LePage won his primary by a
landslide and there were five other candidates.
Joe
>
>On 17 Jul 2010 18:39:51 -0700, Joe wrote...
>
>Rich
>
People should keep these passages in mine when they want to give razes to public
school teachers.
Kenbo
>On 17 Jul 2010 18:47:35 -0700, Joe wrote...
>Over by us Carly Fiorina was picked by the Republicans to go up against Barbara
>Boxer. She "sounds" pretty conservative all around, but given enough time she
>might do the same thing. I'm glad she beat Tom Campbell though. He was getting
>tagged as a RINO and Fiorina probably has a better chance of dethroning Boxer.
>
>Rich
After what Carly Fiorina did to Hewlett Packard I would only vote for
her because of her opponent.
Sure would be nice to have someone to vote FOR instead of continually
voting against a candidate of last resort.
Joe
>
>On 17 Jul 2010 18:47:35 -0700, Joe wrote...
>Boxer. She "sounds" pretty conservative all around, but given enough time she
>might do the same thing. I'm glad she beat Tom Campbell though. He was getting
>tagged as a RINO and Fiorina probably has a better chance of dethroning Boxer.
>
>Rich
>
running neck and neck with Brown. I think the CA press will make sure both
Fiorina and Whitman lose.
Bob
>
>On 16 Jul 2010 09:49:00 -0700, Bob wrote...
>that makes though, the more fuel (no pun intended) they'll have for pushing
>renewable energy, windmills and solar panels. Since it's oil they'll just blame
>it on the oil industry and use it as a platform for pushing their agenda.
>
>Rich
While it may sound like a conspiracy theory to some, I wouldn't put it past
Obama to intentionally delay a fix for the leak if he thought that the disaster
would benefit his renewable energy agenda.
I almost hope that's the case as the only other explanation would be that Obama
and his administration are so inept that they required +3 months to plug a leak
which will impact the Gulf for years to come.
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Bob
Well why didn't someone say so, now it all makes perfect sense lol!
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Bob
If anyone could unravel the mystery of the BP oil spill it's Jimmy Buffett and
the Coral Reefer Band lol.
It's bad enough that Obama refuses to grow up and take responsibility for his
actions (or inaction) but then you have to listen to his supporters blame his
failures on someone else.
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It reminds me of high school in some respects... the popular clique (jocks,
cheerleaders, etc.) can do no wrong, they receive special privileges, and for
some inexplicable reason they're elected class president by fellow students who
typically loathe them.
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