Average points off of live- vs dead-ball TOs

[Mark Engleson]

Does anyone know if it's possible to get figures for average points (for the whole NBA) for points off live vs dead-ball TOs?  I'm working on an idea for effective turnover percentage, which would weight live TOs relative to dead similarly to the formula for eFG.  It'll be next to impossible to manually go through game logs to get the data, the task would just be too big.

My hunch here is that an eTO% would have a tighter correlation with team performance than an unweighted value.

Thanks,

Mark

[Galin Dragiev]

I've seen those numbers used somewhere before, but I can't remember where. Might be worth checking Nylon Calculus, and I'll keep thinking in the meantime.

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[E Flame]

I think I've seen that before on http://nbasavant.com/index.php 

I think but I'm not sure did you try nba.com/stats ?

Hope this helps.

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[Mark Engleson]

I can get the points off of TO, but I can't find the differentiated numbers.

[Evan Zamir]

Wowy has eFG% off live and deadball turnovers by team. You can probably use that to make some approximations.

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[Seth Partnow]

From earlier in the season, 1.25 PPP off live ball to, .98 off all dead balls

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[Mark Engleson]

Okay, that's helpful and makes that really; 1.25/.98 = 1.27551.
So eTO% = %deadball-TOs + 1.27551*%liveball-TOs.
If I can get some figures totals of off/def live/dead TOs, I can run see if it correlates any more closely with wins than does base TO%.

[Nolan Goeken]

And if you can trace points off turnovers to individual turnovers, I'd suspect that a few of the "unluckiest" in terms of expected versus actual points off turnovers would be players notorious for sulking or complaining to officials.

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[Seth Partnow]

Not to spam, but I wrote about that a little here: 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2015/03/17/why-bad-offensive-plays-can-ruin-defense-in-the-nba/