STEVE JOBS' LOVE FOR HINDU PHILOSOPHY , YOGA AND MEDITATION.

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Sudhir-Architect

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STEVE JOBS' LOVE FOR HINDU PHILOSOPHY , YOGA AND MEDITATION.
--You have heard about Mr. Steve Jobs who has revolutionised the world of computers and e based communications through his Apple computers. Do you  know the following facts about Mr. Steve Jobs.

--He used to “walk 7 miles across town every Sunday night to get  one good meal a week at the Hare Krishna Hindu Temple”.
--He said in his  Stanford University lecture “ you have to trust in your gut, destiny, life and Karma. He was a staunch believer of karma yoga.
--He visited  many  Ashrams  in Risheekesh particularly  Neem Karoli Baba ashram , a devotee of Hanuman. After visiting for the first time he returned from India to US with a shaved head and in traditional Indian robes.
--He used to walk in his company bare footed like a Hindu sanyaasee..
--He used to do Yoga daily and he was a perfect vegetarian till his last breath.
--He visits many ashrams in north India and used to do yoga in the holy places.
--He started touring India from 1970 onwards and he is a great lover of animals.
--He has not requested money  from his parents even when he was jobless and generally took food from Hindu temples  wherever he goes.
-- He, religiously followed and spread the ‘ amazing Hindu  dharma’ and Vedic messages.
--He  did not complete his studies in  the university but remained in university for discussing with his friends.
-- He was removed from his own company by the management and latter on those management people were removed from their chair and Mr. Steve was brought back
--It is said that in Himalayas, one of the Hindu swamijies gave him a green apple and told him to bite it. He did and looked into the apple after biting a piece from that.
--That apple  has come as the emblem of the Apple computers.
 
Thanks & Regards,


Sudhir Srinivasan
B.Arch, MSc.CPM, Dip.ID, Dip.CAD, Dip.PM
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Mar 31, 2012, 7:16:01 PM3/31/12
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Sudhir,

A common problem with today's advocates of Hindu-religion is that they are trying to twist the facts and conclusions to suit their own agenda. Though at first glance, they are able to win some people, soon the people find out the truth and feel embarrased. This strategy has caused more loss then benefit to our religion. Remember Sudhir- ''Satyam Shivam Sundaram''.

Now let me straighten the mess you have created here about Mr. Jobs.

Steve was an adopted-son in not-well-off family. He dropped out of his college, as he didn't find it interesting enough. But, dropping out meant living on his own. It was the beginning of his struggle at 17, and he had little money. To cut cost he even slept on the floor of friends' rooms; and even saved sunday dinner's cost by having it in free langar at Hare Krishna Temple. 'It was to save cost' and 'not the love for Hindu Philosophy'. At the 17 years age he hadn't even read any of the Hindu philosophy :)

(Refer- 'Stay Hungry Stay Foolosh' speech at Standford University)

Mr. Steve deropped out of college, because he wanted to find out what he truly wanted in his life. After some years of struggle he thought it was enlightenment. One can't say for sure, but those free meals were probably what got him and friend Kottke, who was later to become Apple's first employee, to backpack in India in search of enlightenment.

In his quest he studied Buddhism and got converted to it (NOT Hinduism). The 'Karma

Philosophy' he talked about in his speech at Stanford has more to do with Buddhist philosophy of Karma than Karma Yoga of Gita. But I won't debate on it as I don't have conclusive evidence for either of the two.

Any way, he mentions it clearly that his search for enlightenment was never fulfilled. He was shocked with abject poverty here. He found India ''Intense and disturbing''. He realised futility of his quest for enlightenment in India and returned. Realising the practical materialistic approach to life, he concluded his India trip- "We weren't going to find a place where we could go for a month to be enlightened. It was one of the first times that I started to realise that maybe Thomas Edison did a lot more to improve the world than Karl Marx and Neem Kairolie Baba put together."

Sudhir, I had a good laugh after reading the tale of apple being given by a Himalayan sage. Haah.
The apple emblem was to symbolise Newton's apple, to symbolise technological advancement. The first logo even had a picture of Newton sitting in the shadow of tree as well. Later to simplify the logo Newton, tree and other details were dropped. The logo became simply an apple. To make it look like an apple and not as tomato, they introduced a bite in it. :)
Read details on ''The evolution and history of apple logo'' ( edibleapple.com/2009/04/20/the-evolution-and-history-of-the-apple-logo/ )


Satyam Shivam Sundaram,
Chandan Kumar
Manager, TATA Steel

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Sudhir Srinivasan
*B.Arch, MSc.CPM, Dip.ID, Dip.CAD, Dip.PM
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Chandan

A brilliant reply again.

Regards
Harsh

Chandan Kumar

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Apr 2, 2012, 3:37:01 AM4/2/12
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Thanks Harsh. You keep me motivated. :)

Mohan Prakash

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Apr 2, 2012, 5:23:26 AM4/2/12
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Moreover the comparison between Marx and Edison (and Neem Baba!!!) shows his (Steve Jobs) philosophical bankruptcy. Seems Marx had created problems for him :)
Little wonder the corporate press held him in great esteem but paid little or perhaps no attention to the death of great computer scientist and father of UNIX and C - Dennis Ritchie who died within 10 days from Jobs death.
A person who gave us the freedom to learn and develop computer science.
I believe that the he (Dennis Ritchie) has definitely given more to mankind than Steve Jobs and Bill Gates put together.

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Apr 2, 2012, 5:38:37 AM4/2/12
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Unix is a fine contribution, and generations will be proud of Dennis Ritchie.
I share your concern that his death didn't get sufficient media attention.

Regards,
Chandan Kumar

Sameer Jalnapurkar

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Apr 2, 2012, 9:47:04 AM4/2/12
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Steve Jobs was an admirer of the Yogi Paramahansa Yogananda. 

During his freshman year at Reed College, Jobs befriended Daniel Kottke, who went on to work at Apple, and together they devoured books such as ... Paramahansa Yogananda's"Autobiography of a Yogi," a book Jobs read and re-read many times during his life. 
One book in particular stayed with Jobs his entire life, and Isaacson noted that it was the only book Jobs had downloaded on his iPad 2: "Autobiography of a Yogi," "the guide to meditation and spirituality that he had first read as a teenager," Isaacson writes, "then re-read in India and had read once a year ever since." 

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Like most great men and innovators of the world, Steve was a seeker. He read lot of books on various topics including on meditation 'Autobiography of a Yogi'; which is really an extra-ordinary book. This book got very popular in west during 1960s.

It is also worth mentioning that seeker Steve tried many many things in his life, even marizuana and psychedelic drugs. To seek and experiment is a common character of all innovators.

Regards,
Chandan Kumar

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Steve Jobs was an admirer of the Yogi Paramahansa Yogananda.

During his freshman year at Reed College, Jobs befriended Daniel Kottke,
> who went on to work at Apple, and together they devoured books such as ... Paramahansa

> Yogananda's*"Autobiography of a Yogi,"* a book Jobs read and re-read many


> times during his life.
> One book in particular stayed with Jobs his entire life, and Isaacson

> noted that it was the only book Jobs had downloaded on his iPad 2: *"Autobiography
> of a Yogi,"* "the guide to meditation and spirituality that he had first

Sameer Jalnapurkar

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Apr 2, 2012, 2:20:52 PM4/2/12
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On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:10 PM, chandan09...@gmail.com <chandan09...@gmail.com> wrote:

It is also worth mentioning that seeker Steve tried many many things in his life, even marizuana and psychedelic drugs. To seek and experiment is a common character of all innovators.

One should distinguish between casual curiosity and something deeper. 

If a book meant so much to Jobs that he re-read it throughout his life, and was the only book he kept with him on his ipad, then it indicates a deeper connection. 

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Apr 2, 2012, 7:05:12 PM4/2/12
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There are no big differences over it. The book had impression on Steve.


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Mar 31, 2012, 2:57:42 PM3/31/12
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Bullshit!!
We indians fabricate stories to be a part of glorified lives!!
Seriously! Come on!
He bite an apple and what not and what not......
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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:36:05 +0100
Subject: [MyShaurya:3910] STEVE JOBS' LOVE FOR HINDU PHILOSOPHY , YOGA AND MEDITATION.
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