Formatting of mail

[Phil Jackson]

Hey all, When I send mail from mu4e, users who receive it on mobile get a poorly formatted email like so:

https://imgur.com/a/gFxBL

And here's what it looks like from Emacs - as a series of long lines and a couple of hard paragraphs - just before I sent it:

https://imgur.com/a/RelnW

I have `mu4e-compose-format-flowed' set to t in the above and no other settings that would affect formatting. My question is, what settings will get me best results for people reading my emails on their phones?

Cheers,

Phil

[Eduardo Mercovich]

Hi Phil.

> Hey all, When I send mail from mu4e, users who receive it on
> mobile get a poorly formatted email like so:
> https://imgur.com/a/gFxBL

I believe they shouldn't have new lines except when you insert a
new paragraph by hand...

> And here's what it looks like from Emacs - as a series of long
> lines and a couple of hard paragraphs - just before I sent it:
> https://imgur.com/a/RelnW

I have the same here. If the long lines are bothering you, they
can be tamed by changing the frame width or with the fring/margin
width (see https://emacs-doctor.com/emacs-strip-tease.html as an
example).

> I have `mu4e-compose-format-flowed' set to t in the above and no
> other settings that would affect formatting. My question is,
> what settings will get me best results for people reading my
> emails on their phones?

I thought that those settings would make the text flow until you
used a hard return. At least, it does for me here. I just checked
a couple of sent mails and don't see the hard cuts in a mobile
phone.


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Eduardo Mercovich

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[Phil Jackson]

Hi Eduardo,

Eduardo Mercovich <eduardo....@gmail.com> writes:

>> And here's what it looks like from Emacs - as a series of long
>> lines and a couple of hard paragraphs - just before I sent it:
>> https://imgur.com/a/RelnW
>
> I have the same here. If the long lines are bothering you, they
> can be tamed by changing the frame width or with the
> fring/margin
> width (see https://emacs-doctor.com/emacs-strip-tease.html as an
> example).

Great tip - thank you.

>> I have `mu4e-compose-format-flowed' set to t in the above and
>> no
>> other settings that would affect formatting. My question is,
>> what settings will get me best results for people reading my
>> emails on their phones?
>
> I thought that those settings would make the text flow until you
> used a hard return. At least, it does for me here. I just
> checked
> a couple of sent mails and don't see the hard cuts in a mobile
> phone.

Ok, that's promising, means I'm screwing something up. I don't
suppose your configuration is available somewhere, is it?

Is your mobile client Gmail/Inbox?

Cheers,
Phil

[Eduardo Mercovich]

Hi Phil.

[...]

>>> I have `mu4e-compose-format-flowed' set to t in the above and
>>> no other settings that would affect formatting. My question
>>> is, what settings will get me best results for people reading
>>> my emails on their phones?

>> I thought that those settings would make the text flow until
>> you used a hard return. At least, it does for me here. I just
>> checked a couple of sent mails and don't see the hard cuts in a
>> mobile phone.

> Ok, that's promising, means I'm screwing something up. I don't
> suppose your configuration is available somewhere, is it?

Not, but I can sanitize it and share it if needed... however, I
have it in this regard just like you.

> Is your mobile client Gmail/Inbox?

Yes, Gmail. But I don't see the ugly cuts in the middle of a
sentence since I use format flowed in mu4e (I don't use gmail web
interface, too cumbersome and I'm slowly leaving google). :)

Just to add some references, Adam Spiers in github said: I've
linked to this FAQ from
https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/FormatFlowed
In that wiki there is a link to [[... mail clients such as Gmail
don't handle it
correctly][https://mathiasbynens.be/notes/gmail-plain-text]] in
which this issue is explained.

[Phil Jackson]

Eduardo,

Eduardo Mercovich <eduardo....@gmail.com> writes:

>> Is your mobile client Gmail/Inbox?
>
> Yes, Gmail. But I don't see the ugly cuts in the middle of a
> sentence since I use format flowed in mu4e (I don't use gmail web
> interface, too cumbersome and I'm slowly leaving google). :)

Turns out that Google's Inbox (it's a Gmail variant for mobile) doesn't do the
right thing with format=flowed, so, turns out that the emails look fine in the
Gmail mobile app as you suggested they would.

Thanks for your help.

Cheers,
Phil

[Eduardo Mercovich]

d^-^b

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ahí está tu vocación.

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