OT: Anyone having trouble with eternal-september?

[Dudley Brooks]

I'm suddenly getting "connection refused" from
news.eternal-september.org after many months of no trouble. Their
website doesn't list any problems. Anyone else experiencing this?

I use my own domain name, hosted by Verio.Com, which is not on their bad
list.

Port: 119, Connection Security: None

TB 3.1.20, Mac OS X 10.6.8.

Sorry about OT. I see that many other people have asked about e-s in
the past.

[Dave Pyles]

It's refusing connections for me today.
Dave Pyles

[News]

Yep. Same here.

[homepc]

Can't connect at all since a few hours ago.

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Working fine for me here. SM 2.15.1, WinXPSP3. -JW

[James Silverton]

Me too! Never got on today and it's 5:15 PM in DC now.

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James Silverton ( NOT not.jim.silverton)

[Mike Easter]

Dudley Brooks wrote:
> I'm suddenly getting "connection refused" from
> news.eternal-september.org after many months of no trouble. Their
> website doesn't list any problems. Anyone else experiencing this?

Yes, but it doesn't matter very much to me. e-s isn't my primary news
server.

And, once upon a time, when e-s /was/ my primary news server, it also
didn't matter much when that problem developed from time to time
infrequently, because I would just switch over from my primary e-s to my
alternate or second alternate news server.

Alternate news servers also aid in the troubleshooting process, so that
if something else is going on, such as a name service problem, then it
is immediately apparent that it isn't just the primary news server.

I strongly recommend that you have a couple of alternate news servers
and use them when you are having trouble with e-s. Then the problems
won't be very annoying.

> I use my own domain name, hosted by Verio.Com, which is not on their bad
> list.
>
> Port: 119, Connection Security: None

Yes, that is the way I do it.

> TB 3.1.20, Mac OS X 10.6.8.

Not that it has anything to do with your question, but support for Tb
3.1.x ended 2012 Apr, almost 9 months ago. That means no ongoing
security and performance fixes.

http://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/2012/01/using-thunderbird-3-1-its-time-for-a-change/
Using Thunderbird 3.1? It’s Time for a Change!



--
Mike Easter

[WaltS]

Don't know how accurate this is, but showing the servers are green at
this time.

http://www.eternal-september.org/serverstatus.php?language=en

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Go Sabres and Pens!

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Dudley Brooks said the following on 1/23/2013 3:44 PM:

I'm getting the same "connection refused" message since this morning up
to and including now.
pop->Mark

[Mike Easter]

Dudley Brooks wrote:
> I'm suddenly getting "connection refused" from
> news.eternal-september.org

IDServe report:

Initiating server query ...
Looking up IP address for domain: news.eternal-september.org
The IP address for the domain is: 88.198.244.100
Connecting to the server on remote port: 119
The port is closed, so our connection attempt was refused.
Query complete.

That tells you that nothing is wrong with your Tb or its configuration
or your name service.

IDServe is a very useful tool to help you evaluate a lot of different
kinds of server related questions including those that relate to Tb such
as mailservers and newsservers, and a lot more.

It is a tiny app, doesn't require installation, runs under every Windows
version I know of, and also runs under linux/wine.

I would presume that IDServe also runs on a Mac under something like
CrossOver Mac. If I were a Mac, I would also look into Wine Bottler.

http://www.grc.com/id/idserve.htm
http://winebottler.kronenberg.org/

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Mike Easter

[Mike Easter]

Mike Easter wrote:

> If I were a Mac, I would also look into ...

Better Mac/Wine place http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX



--
Mike Easter

[Rav]

Same here. If you go to http://www.eternal-september.org/ and click on
NewsPortal, it displays "Error: The connection to the Newsserver
failed." So it's clearly a problem at their end since it errors out on
their own website.

[News]

Yeah.

Newsportal

Error:

The connection to the Newsserver failed

"News-Portal" was written by Florian Amrhein.

Yo, Florian!

[Dudley Brooks]

On 1/23/13 2:56 PM, Mike Easter wrote:

> Mike Easter wrote:
>
>> If I were a Mac, I would also look into ...
>
> Better Mac/Wine place http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX

Thanks for the info, and similar info from others. And thanks to
everyone for letting me know that (1) it's not TB's fault; (2) I'm in
some illustrious company.

So it's obviously a completely unrelated problem that immediately after
sending my original post, my complete m.s.thunderbird listings
disappeared and I had to re-download all 133K posts and re-star and
re-watch those I had starred and was watching.

[Mike Easter]

Dudley Brooks wrote:
Subject: ... more mishegoss,

I know meshuge/meshugge adjective, but I didn't recognize mishegoss noun
which is of the same Yiddish/Hebrew etymology.

(slang) Madness; silliness.




--
Mike Easter

[David E. Ross]

meshugge (adjective): crazy
mishegoss (noun): craziness, insanity (also spelled mishegaas)
meshuggener (noun): a man afflicted with mishegoss
meshuggeneh (noun): a woman afflicted with mishegoss

These words are often applied, not in a pejorative sense, but more to
indicate wackiness, silliness, or a fixation.

Reference: Leo Rosten, "The Joys of Yiddish", McGraw-Hill, 1968

--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

Are taxes too high in the U.S.? Check the bar graph
at <http://www.rossde.com/taxes/trickling.html> to see.

[News]

It's back now. Thanks, Florian!

[Frank]

Last night I had problem but OK this am.
It gets flaky on occasion but not often.

[James Silverton]

> It gets flaky on occasi.on but not often.

Yes, it seems to have returned. I'm just signed on in DC at 9:00AM;
when E-S came back I'm not sure.

[Frank]

I use aioe as backup and even sometimes, that dreaded Google Groups.

[Dudley Brooks]

On 1/23/13 8:09 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

> On 1/23/13 4:17 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
>
>> Dudley Brooks wrote:
>>
>> Subject: ... more mishegoss,
>>
>> I know meshuge/meshugge adjective, but I didn't recognize mishegoss
>> noun which is of the same Yiddish/Hebrew etymology.
>>
>> (slang) Madness; silliness.
>>
>
> meshugge (adjective): crazy
> mishegoss (noun): craziness, insanity (also spelled mishegaas)
> meshuggener (noun): a man afflicted with mishegoss
> meshuggeneh (noun): a woman afflicted with mishegoss
>
> These words are often applied, not in a pejorative sense, but more
> to indicate wackiness, silliness, or a fixation.
>
> Reference: Leo Rosten, "The Joys of Yiddish", McGraw-Hill, 1968

And today's new mishegoss is that two of my newsservers are now called
dudleybrooksnews.mozilladudleybrooks.orgdudleybrooks and
dudleybrooksnews.eternaldudleybrooks-september.orgdudleybrooks.

But other newsgroups are fine.

[Ron K.]

Dudley Brooks on 1/24/2013 9:34 PM, keyboarded a reply:

Time for a Config Edit cleanup. Will need to filter on dudley to find
the prefs that now have munged data strings. Similar case was documented
in a bug for a different issue and I don't know if a new bug was filed
by the commenter. This issue bit me too once and fixing the prefs
cleared it up for me.

--
Ron K.
Who is General Failure, and why is he searching my HDD?
Kernel Restore reported Major Error used BSOD to msg the enemy!

[John McGaw]

On 1/23/2013 4:44 PM, Dudley Brooks wrote:

I had problems a few days back but I put it down to AT&T's massive U-Verse
outage forcing me to try to access my normal locations via a tethered
mobile. Many things just weren't working as expected and one more glitch
didn't seem important at the time. I even discovered that I had a
difference between operating USB-tethered with my standard Ethernet port
enabled and USB-tethered with the the Ethernet disabled -- some servers
would work in both situations while others would only respond in the latter
and I found that completely inexplicable. ES was working when U-Verse
finally came back and is working now.

[Dudley Brooks]

Thanks. I had already changed the account names back in Tools|Account
Settings, and I don't find any other incorrect strings now in Config Edit.

Now ... could that change be why e-s no longer recognizes me and won't
let me log in? I was considering opening a new account, but decided
that I don't use e-s often enough for it to be worth the trouble, and I
simply unsubscribed. But thanks to everyone for the help anyway.

[Ron K.]

Dudley Brooks on 1/25/2013 10:30 PM, keyboarded a reply:

Next I would go to tools > Options > security > passwords and tell it to
show PW. Then review the fully displayed list for errors.

I would also repeat the Config Edit search focusing on
mail.server.serverX. entries. Would not hurt to check for extra spaces
in URI info, anything preventing a correct match with what the server
expects.

[Dudley Brooks]

Thanks. BTW, in TB 3.1.20 for Mac, it's under Thunderbird | Preferences
| Security | Passwords | Saved Passwords.

> I would also repeat the Config Edit search focusing on
> mail.server.serverX. entries. Would not hurt to check for extra
> spaces in URI info, anything preventing a correct match with what the
> server expects.

Also thanks.