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V S Rawat gmoz

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Oct 22, 2012, 1:18:40 PM10/22/12
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I am at a loss as to what is the purpose of a tab group.

well, I had 4 tabs opened. I clicked on tabgroup icon on toolbar, and
those got miniatured on a corner of page. I could give them a name.

ok. good enough. but the rest of the screen became semi transparent,
inactive. and it was not that I could save this defined tabgroup
somewhere, and use rest of ff, and open more sites, define yet another
tab group. while in tab group, there are hardly any rightclick command
working.

then, what exactly is the purpose of this single tab group we are
allowed to define? Am I missing something.

ff13 on w7.

Thanks.
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V S Rawat gmoz

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Oct 27, 2012, 1:56:34 AM10/27/12
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reminder.

Hasn't anyone used tabgroups in ff?

Thanks.
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Vic Moz Garcia

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Oct 27, 2012, 2:44:06 AM10/27/12
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Did you read the Manual before adding 'Tab Groups' ???
That's how most of us learn how to use a new feature.

http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/tab-groups-organize-tabs
http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/mastering-tab-group-editor

There are other articles, but these two should give you what you want.

VanguardLH

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Nov 2, 2012, 11:56:55 PM11/2/12
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"Vic Moz Garcia" wrote:

> Did you read the Manual before adding 'Tab Groups' ???
> That's how most of us learn how to use a new feature.
>
> http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/tab-groups-organize-tabs
> http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/mastering-tab-group-editor
>
> There are other articles, but these two should give you what you want.

So where is this "all tabs list" clickable chevron in the tab bar? It's
not there. In fact, the "+" to open a new tab is right against the
right-side of the browser's window so there is no way you can click to
the right of it. I had to right-click on the toolbar, select Customize,
and drag the Tab Groups icon into the tab bar (I put it on the the left
end instead of the right end). Now I can use tab groups. It wasn't
there by default after I just installed FF. Much later (and almost when
I was going to submit this reply), I noticed at the very bottom of the
first article the statement:

If the Tab Group button is not at the far right of the Tab Strip, see
Customize Firefox controls, buttons and toolbars.

So now I find they tell me what I had to figure out before. In the
video, they show a down-arrow chevron appearing at the right end of the
tab bar for "all tabs list" in which there is the Tab Groups option.
Didn't see that in my instance of FF ... until I did another experiment
where I kept opening more tabs until I happen to notice the "all tabs
list" icon showed up in the tab bar. I had to open 15 tabs before the
chevron appeared. The tab bar has to get fully populated before the
chevron appears. Well, that sucks if you want to open some tabs, create
a group for them, and repeat to create other groups but none of them
contains 15, or more, tabs. I might be opening 4 tabs for various
webmail sites and want them grouped now because I know that I'm going to
open a dozen tabs for some topic research, later I need to lookup
something regarding a Usenet post and I want to group those, and then
along comes someone asking questions and I want another tab group for
those topics. None or not all of them amassed 15 tabs so the chevron
would never appear. I'd have to use the key shortcut (Ctrl+Shift+E,
yeah, like that'll happen) or use the Tab Groups button that I had to
add myself.

If you happen to fully populate the tab bar BEFORE you decide to create
a tab group then you'll get the "all tabs lists" chevron shown in the
video. Even after you create tab groups, it's likely you sliced down
your tab groupings to under 15 tabs each so you will still need to add
the Tab Groups button to the tab bar so you can switch between the tab
groups. It's a handy feature but seems clumsily implemented. For
example, after creating tab groups, you cannot select a bunch of tabs in
one group to move them into another group. Instead you have to drag
them around one by one which obviates the convenience that tab grouping
was supposed to afford. Tab grouping is also an irreversible operation.
Once you've created a couple groups of tabs, you cannot merge them back
together. When you drag one group atop of another, one of them shrinks
or resizes to move out of the way. There is no right-click option to
merge the groups. You have to, again, drag each tab one-by-one from one
group to another group. Very clumsy.

When I had heard of the tab grouping feature, I figured, great, I
already know a couple users that would love that feature. However,
after experimenting with FF's tab group manager, I can definitely say
those users will *not* love THIS tab group manager.
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